I Absolutely Hate Fantasy Football!! Here's My Reasoning...

[MD2ATLdiehard]

Truthfully, I don't know how many times this has been said, but bear with me. The insidious evil that is fantasy football is ruining the game I so dearly love. These are some of the ways.....


The damn thing is only about statistics & that leads to a warped view of the team, our players, the games, & the league. The numbers chasers are not taking into account that there are occasions when the passer must throw the ball out of bounds. In the context of The Football Game, this can be a good decision based on the scenario. Or, pounding the ball late to protect the lead & grind out a win IN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME is a good decision. These decisions, for example, lead to victories. But the fantasy guys simply look at the stat sheet (or a dubiously edited espn highlight of the game) & proclaim that this player or that one sucked, based on his numbers alone. But had these characters bothered to watch the game, they wouldn't say this stuff.
The cherry-picking of the league leads the fantasy crowd in some insane directions, in terms of team loyalty. I've seen this a million times. A dude in the sports bar will be wearing a Redskins jersey, yet hollers FOR plaxico burris when he scores, "because he's on my fantasy team". Does this mean he would casually follow a division rival because one of their guys is on his team? Worse yet, would this guy really cheer for the player on his fantasy squad when they oppose Washington?
Defense & Special Teams have been made a mockery by ff, KEY ingredients to our beloved sport. Three and outs are important, & so is field position. If a fan closely watches the Football Games, he understands this point. But the stats lovers cannot fully appreciate these aspects of the game, since he's soooo obsessed with offensive numbers. I liken it to cooking a filet mignon in the microvave! Sure you've got a prime cut of beef, but some shortcuts simply shouldn't be taken.
The covetous nature of all fans is exponentially magnified. Of course I see nothing wrong with loving a player's game that isn't on Washington's roster. I've wanted to see jason taylor in the B&G for years now. However, the ridiculous nonsense about coveting that flash-in-the-pan qb in cleveland kills me. I feel that these sentiments are just plain asinine.
The uber impatience with the team, based purely on numbers! Suffice it to say, numbers DO NOT tell the entire story. I understand this perfectly. Sadly, many Skins fans on these boards fail to grasp this concept. Otherwise, how can Redskins fans, in sizable numbers, call for Jason Campbell's head? All he's done is won five out of eight ballgames this year. So he hasn't thrown for a 300-yard game this season. So what? He's winning, & that's the most inportant statistic! These repeated calls for his head totally defy logic.:doh: I completely blame ff for this behavior.
Listen guys, I'm sure fantasy football ain't the devil incarnate. Maybe it just feels that way. But I sure am tired of its mischevious influence on Pro Football. Thank You for allowing my rant on this topic. Now, bring the pain! Surely I'll be flamed for my opinions.

[paige3girl]

Just curious... do you play?

I love fantasy -- I have one rule though -- Redskins before fantasy no matter what

[Gator Bait]

hey man, if you don't like it, don't play.....but quit your crying.

I've won my fantasy leagues the past three years. I am a die hard skins fan, and I refuse to have a cowboy on my team. I have had a couple giants & eagles, but of course I root against them when they play the skins, or play in a game that affects the skins.....you root for the player to do well, but the rest of the team to suck

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

i have westbrook going this weekend.

im hoping he gets 200 all purpose yards, 2 TDs, and that we win 48 to 14. thats all i can hope for.

but ill be happy as a clam if he completely chokes.

redskins > fantasy

[bugski1210]

I love fantasy -- I have one rule though -- Redskins before fantasy no matter what

I have that rule too... in fact if one the players on my fantasy team plays the Skins I don't play them. And I can't stress this rule enough... absolutely NO COWBOYS!

[Bostic Hog]

To the original poster, you don't have AP on your team like I do, do ya? If you had AP, you'd LOVE fantasy football!:cheers:

[Bostic Hog]

How about a positive or two about fantasy football:


1) If there was no fantasy football, this weeks MNF game would have the lowest ratings EVER!!!! But most people have at least one Seahawk or Niner on their team, so they'll probably watch!

2) Even when the Redskins suck, we can still feel good about watching the NFL!

Holla

[thelarkascend1ng]

Truthfully, I don't know how many times this has been said, but bear with me. The insidious evil that is fantasy football is ruining the game I so dearly love. These are some of the ways.....


The damn thing is only about statistics & that leads to a warped view of the team, our players, the games, & the league. The numbers chasers are not taking into account that there are occasions when the passer must throw the ball out of bounds. In the context of The Football Game, this can be a good decision based on the scenario. Or, pounding the ball late to protect the lead & grind out a win IN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME is a good decision. These decisions, for example, lead to victories. But the fantasy guys simply look at the stat sheet (or a dubiously edited espn highlight of the game) & proclaim that this player or that one sucked, based on his numbers alone. But had these characters bothered to watch the game, they wouldn't say this stuff.



on espn, the H&V stuff is usually pretty tolerable. i mean, i have portis on my team. last week he gave me 25 points and it was awesome. the projection for it was something to the effect of like "after running on the patriots D, portis will probably think that everything is in slow motion for him when he takes on the jets." people "bash" players in fantasy because they didn't put up points, not because they didn't play well or fight hard.


The cherry-picking of the league leads the fantasy crowd in some insane directions, in terms of team loyalty. I've seen this a million times. A dude in the sports bar will be wearing a Redskins jersey, yet hollers FOR plaxico burris when he scores, "because he's on my fantasy team". Does this mean he would casually follow a division rival because one of their guys is on his team? Worse yet, would this guy really cheer for the player on his fantasy squad when they oppose Washington?


this is a touchy subject for football fans. it's understandable. my one rule is simply don't root for any player that you have on your team that is playing the skins. simple! doesn't happen too often for me, and when it does, the choice is simple.


Defense & Special Teams have been made a mockery by ff, KEY ingredients to our beloved sport. Three and outs are important, & so is field position. If a fan closely watches the Football Games, he understands this point. But the stats lovers cannot fully appreciate these aspects of the game, since he's soooo obsessed with offensive numbers. I liken it to cooking a filet mignon in the microvave! Sure you've got a prime cut of beef, but some shortcuts simply shouldn't be taken.


if you honestly feel like drafting individual players for defense and special teams, go ahead. my annual draft sundays are long enough thank you very much.


The covetous nature of all fans is exponentially magnified. Of course I see nothing wrong with loving a player's game that isn't on Washington's roster. I've wanted to see jason taylor in the B&G for years now. However, the ridiculous nonsense about coveting that flash-in-the-pan qb in cleveland kills me. I feel that these sentiments are just plain asinine.


that's why waivers can get so funny. :silly: i agree with you on this one. this is why fantasy is awesome, because you can beat someone with a player that has a weird ridiculous day, or you can be like the kid who took Culpepper first overall 2 years ago in my church fantasy draft and made an incredibly funny name for himself.



The uber impatience with the team, based purely on numbers! Suffice it to say, numbers DO NOT tell the entire story. I understand this perfectly. Sadly, many Skins fans on these boards fail to grasp this concept. Otherwise, how can Redskins fans, in sizable numbers, call for Jason Campbell's head? All he's done is won five out of eight ballgames this year. So he hasn't thrown for a 300-yard game this season. So what? He's winning, & that's the most inportant statistic! These repeated calls for his head totally defy logic.:doh: I completely blame ff for this behavior.
Listen guys, I'm sure fantasy football ain't the devil incarnate. Maybe it just feels that way. But I sure am tired of its mischevious influence on Pro Football. Thank You for allowing my rant on this topic. Now, bring the pain! Surely I'll be flamed for my opinions.

it's all a contextual thing. i don't have JC on my fantasy team not because i don't like him or i don't think he's a good QB, it's simply a matter of how many points you think someone will put up. that's okay, so long as you understand how the game works and can comprehend the idea that fantasy points are not equal to quality player. this is why you don't take rock cartwright in the 1st round. he's a hell of a redskin and a great kick returner, but doesn't put up fantasy points. it's not an insult or anything.

it's why i was pissed that drew brees sucked in the first 4 games he played when he was our first QB we drafted (he's coming on now though), or why i'm so happy my friend nabbed greg jennings off of waivers and he's had virtually a TD every game (except against us ;) ). rooting for skins comes first, fantasy comes second. always.

the only reason i hate fantasy is because you'll have those seasons where players that typically have good games don't show up when you absolutely need them to have even just a decent day, or someone's bench tight end randomly puts up like 25 points and you want to kill someone.

[Backpack3r]

I havent done fantasy football in 4 years

I hate rooting against the redskins. Being a redskins fan, I want to see the skins blow out the other team, but when i was in competitive leagues for FF football, I would be like, I hope the skins win, but Mcnabb throws for 5 touchdowns.....Completely changed the way I watched the game, so I decided to stop in like 10th grade or somethin

[pissondallas]

I agree with you 100%. Everyone always asks me why I dont play. They say since I love football so much, I would enjoy it. But everything you said is how I feel about it. I would have an entire Redskins team and would live and die by them.

[paige3girl]

I have another positive:

I am the commissioner of my league and its with all my best girlfriends and their husbands -- none of them were really into football they watched really for the social aspect but they all have really learned the game and some of them are the top players!

Its amazing when a bunch of girls are enjoying a nice bottle of wine discussing who their keeper is going to be -- ;)


(and they don't nag their men when they watch football all day because they are watching too!)

[Best Team Ever]

I have that rule too... in fact if one the players on my fantasy team plays the Skins I don't play them. And I can't stress this rule enough... absolutely NO COWBOYS!


You stole my rules!

[Best Team Ever]

I agree with you 100%. Everyone always asks me why I dont play. They say since I love football so much, I would enjoy it. But everything you said is how I feel about it. I would have an entire Redskins team and would live and die by them.

Why not play and pick all Redskins then? It's mainly for fun anyway.

[XSean21TaylorX]

To the original poster, you don't have AP on your team like I do, do ya? If you had AP, you'd LOVE fantasy football!:cheers:

buttt he plays us this year.

[TotalRecall]

Never done fantasy football. Do you actually win anything or is it just something to do?

[Chris0894]

shouldn't this be in the fantasy football forum? :whoknows:

[HitStickTaylor21]

I hate fantasy football because I don't like rooting for people on teams I hate. If you aren't on the Skins, I'm not cheering for you.

[Blue Collar Skins]

hey man, if you don't like it, don't play.....but quit your crying.Hey man, learn to have a discussion. The guy is not crying rather bring up an interesting topic that should be discussed.

[SKIN4WAHOOZ]

I liken it to cooking a filet mignon in the microvave! Sure you've got a prime cut of beef, but some shortcuts simply shouldn't be taken.

Sadly, many Skins fans on these boards fail to grasp this concept. Otherwise, how can Redskins fans, in sizable numbers, call for Jason Campbell's head? All he's done is won five out of eight ballgames this year.
I think you have been trying to think of how you could use that "Filet" one liner all week and this is the best you could come up with.

FF is the shiet. sounds like you have never played. Like one person said, skins before FF. I try and not have any nfc e players on my roster and if i do. I will usually sit them or root against them when we play. As far as the JC comment, I posted the below on another thread yesterday. I want JC to prove me wrong, he just has not yet!

miami>>> combination of portis, betts and def. with campbells 2 ints, he did nothing more then help the dolphs get to OT.

philly>>>JC played OK here BUT it was more of portis, betts and a strong def.

giants>>>>LOSS. less then 50% completion

lions>>>JC got a win here

packers>>>SM stole the show here so we will give JC half win here.

cards>>>DEF. JC helped to keep it close with his INT, dump passes, 95 yrds and zippy tds.

pats>>> need i say more?

jets>>>PORTIS and run game. JC, a pube better then 50% comp. another int and another zippy tds.



so the way i see it we will give JC a 1 WIN against the lions. For the iggles and the packers we will give him a half a point apiece.

and your grand total is 2 wins in 8 games.

Is JC putting the W's up? I think not!

[Sinclair]

I played FF when it first started, but I would rather just watch all the games...But..to the OP, I see what your saying but i would argue that Madden leads to more of the things you touched on..people think that you can just trade Player X for Player Y and all will be well, nobody really takes into account that the players we watch every sunday are actually Humans, not just entertainers...but who knows...as long as I get to watch football I'm a happy guy....?


.....as usual, i reread my post and feel that i've questioned myself more than the argument presented...oh well..i guess, i dont know.

I quit.....**** Dallas

[Bliz]

I have that rule too... in fact if one the players on my fantasy team plays the Skins I don't play them. And I can't stress this rule enough... absolutely NO COWBOYS!

I abide by neither of those rules, but maybe it's because I don't care about fantasy as much as some people. I usually have no idea what anyone on my team has done until the next day.

If a player on my fantasy team is playing against the Skins there is no question, there is no doubt, there is no "well, at least he's on my fantasy team" rationalization. I am equally pissed off. Does that mean I would root for TO to get touchdown passes every week? You must be out of your mind. But I recognize that he will and so I would play him.

If the $20 or whatever you have riding on your fantasy league is enough to effect your loyalty to the Redskins or your hatred of the Cowboys, you have major psychological problems, for which you should seek professional help.

[Actaeon]

Why not play and pick all Redskins then? It's mainly for fun anyway.

Because its also fun to win and with Moss not catching balls Cooley is the only semi-safe play every weekend. I also have Randel El but he hasn't done a whole lot of good this season either.

[RenegadeTK]

i hate it bc it makes you root for other players/teams... which is why i cant and will never do it in my life

[kuraitengai]

it's why i was pissed that drew brees sucked in the first 4 games he played when he was our first QB we drafted (he's coming on now though), or why i'm so happy my friend nabbed greg jennings off of waivers and he's had virtually a TD every game (except against us ;) ). rooting for skins comes first, fantasy comes second. always.definitely....in one of my leagues. i was stacked at RB and WR, but had no QB, then low and behold. the saints suck. and drew brees in on the waver wire 3 weeks ago. so of course i snatch him up. and hes given me about 25 a game since now that the team is in rhythm.

and in another league, i was decent at QB and WR, but my only good RB was addai. and about 4 weeks ago, reggie bush is on the wire. so naturally i pick him up and hes given about 18-20 since.

gotta love the panickers who drop stars just cuz of a few bad weeks. part of the reason i love playing. i want to see who is the weekly waiver wire fodder.

[cp26allday]

hey man, if you don't like it, don't play.....but quit your crying.

I've won my fantasy leagues the past three years. I am a die hard skins fan, and I refuse to have a cowboy on my team. I have had a couple giants & eagles, but of course I root against them when they play the skins, or play in a game that affects the skins.....you root for the player to do well, but the rest of the team to suck


Exactly!

[stwasm]

IT does change the way you watch the game. That's why I don't do fantasy football.

[Skinned]

As much as I/we hate the Cowboys, a truly competitive FF player does not let any team allegiance come in the way of how he picks his team (mainly if it's for $$)

I love the Skins and when any of my players are going up against the Skins, I set my lineup and don't look back at the fantasy scoring until game time is over.

My important team members:
Romo
TO
Houshmanzadeh
Addai
Adrian Peterson


These guys, including the Dallas guys, have helped me set all kinds of scoring records this year. I just put up 190 pts last week! Yet, they have nothing to do with my love for the Skins and do not stand in the way of it.

[bandito28]

Well, I'm not sure how other people have such an issue with it, but to me, FF is just a game. Having Romo as my starting QB on one of my FF teams is not gonna make me a cowboy fan - just like playing a russian commando in Call Of Duty isn't gonna make me love communism. You put people on your team that you think will get you the most points, and check the result on Tuesday to see if you won.

[SKIN4WAHOOZ]

If the $20 or whatever you have riding on your fantasy league is enough to effect your loyalty to the Redskins or your hatred of the Cowboys, you have major psychological problems, for which you should seek professional help.


Whoa! Its a game dude. Both FF and NFL, they are games. If you think someone has psychological problems because they dont hate another team enuff or they are not loyal to the skins, you should seek professional help.

[kuraitengai]

i hate it bc it makes you root for other players/teams... which is why i cant and will never do it in my lifeso youll never root for someone who is not on the redskins? even if you know them or went to school with them?
or are you just talking fantasy football related and not cheering for other teams players within those boundaries?

i ran into rod gardner a few times when we were in college. so when he was drafted by the skins i was happy. but the other year when san diego drafted charlie whitehurst and signed reggie merriweather as a UFA, i was happy about that. i hate whitehurst, but reggie was a beast for us in college so i was happy seeing him get his shot. then anthony waters is a LB for the bolts. and tye hill in st. louis. leroy hill is starting in seattle. justin miller for the jets. some of these guys i know. some are friends of friends. others i dont know. but i still have a tie to them so i want them to do good. but when they play the skins, all bets are off. other than that, i root for them to have good seasons.

[HitStick21]

I started the redskins fantasy defense against the Pats thinking loyalty would be rewarded.....:doh:.....whoops lol i still won though

[laxpck]

Right now I got Andre Carter, London Fletcher and JC on my fantasy squad. JC has been riding my bench cause I traded for FAVVVVVVRE.

I tell you what, London and Andre have won me some games.

Payout for my league is like 700 bucks. I got Witten at TE and I hate rooting for him but what are you going to do. I won my game last week going against Portis, he had a monster day...luckily Addai had a monster half.

[Bliz]

Whoa! Its a game dude. Both FF and NFL, they are games. If you think someone has psychological problems because they dont hate another team enuff or they are not loyal to the skins, you should seek professional help.

Relax man, it was hyperbole.

Apparently I should have added a smiley or something (though I think it was pretty clear)

[SkinsNut73]

I've been playing fantasy football for 15 years now. I absolutely love it :D

It has not changed how I view the Redskins or their games. As a rule, if there is a player on my team going against the Skins that week, then I will bench him and play the backup.

What fantasy football has done for me is increase my love for the game. And let's face it, when the Skins have been less than stellar - which has been the case more often than not over the last 15 years - I need something to make football enjoyable.

...I'll stay up late on a Sunday night to watch the Cardinals and Jets play if I have someone going in the game :laugh:

[dfos81]

Truthfully, I don't know how many times this has been said, but bear with me. The insidious evil that is fantasy football is ruining the game I so dearly love. These are some of the ways.....


The damn thing is only about statistics & that leads to a warped view of the team, our players, the games, & the league. The numbers chasers are not taking into account that there are occasions when the passer must throw the ball out of bounds. In the context of The Football Game, this can be a good decision based on the scenario. Or, pounding the ball late to protect the lead & grind out a win IN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME is a good decision. These decisions, for example, lead to victories. But the fantasy guys simply look at the stat sheet (or a dubiously edited espn highlight of the game) & proclaim that this player or that one sucked, based on his numbers alone. But had these characters bothered to watch the game, they wouldn't say this stuff.
The cherry-picking of the league leads the fantasy crowd in some insane directions, in terms of team loyalty. I've seen this a million times. A dude in the sports bar will be wearing a Redskins jersey, yet hollers FOR plaxico burris when he scores, "because he's on my fantasy team". Does this mean he would casually follow a division rival because one of their guys is on his team? Worse yet, would this guy really cheer for the player on his fantasy squad when they oppose Washington?
Defense & Special Teams have been made a mockery by ff, KEY ingredients to our beloved sport. Three and outs are important, & so is field position. If a fan closely watches the Football Games, he understands this point. But the stats lovers cannot fully appreciate these aspects of the game, since he's soooo obsessed with offensive numbers. I liken it to cooking a filet mignon in the microvave! Sure you've got a prime cut of beef, but some shortcuts simply shouldn't be taken.
The covetous nature of all fans is exponentially magnified. Of course I see nothing wrong with loving a player's game that isn't on Washington's roster. I've wanted to see jason taylor in the B&G for years now. However, the ridiculous nonsense about coveting that flash-in-the-pan qb in cleveland kills me. I feel that these sentiments are just plain asinine.
The uber impatience with the team, based purely on numbers! Suffice it to say, numbers DO NOT tell the entire story. I understand this perfectly. Sadly, many Skins fans on these boards fail to grasp this concept. Otherwise, how can Redskins fans, in sizable numbers, call for Jason Campbell's head? All he's done is won five out of eight ballgames this year. So he hasn't thrown for a 300-yard game this season. So what? He's winning, & that's the most inportant statistic! These repeated calls for his head totally defy logic.:doh: I completely blame ff for this behavior.
Listen guys, I'm sure fantasy football ain't the devil incarnate. Maybe it just feels that way. But I sure am tired of its mischevious influence on Pro Football. Thank You for allowing my rant on this topic. Now, bring the pain! Surely I'll be flamed for my opinions.


I belive I can seperate fantasy from reality, which some may not be able to. I can be happy that my fantasy player did well but belive me it makes me feel much better to see my team (in reality) do well 1st.
To add to that, I have been more of football fan b/c of fantasy football and I know more week to week about what other teams and players are doing b/c of it.

[RenegadeTK]

so youll never root for someone who is not on the redskins? even if you know them or went to school with them?
or are you just talking fantasy football related and not cheering for other teams players within those boundaries?

i ran into rod gardner a few times when we were in college. so when he was drafted by the skins i was happy. but the other year when san diego drafted charlie whitehurst and signed reggie merriweather as a UFA, i was happy about that. i hate whitehurst, but reggie was a beast for us in college so i was happy seeing him get his shot. then anthony waters is a LB for the bolts. and tye hill in st. louis. leroy hill is starting in seattle. justin miller for the jets. some of these guys i know. some are friends of friends. others i dont know. but i still have a tie to them so i want them to do good. but when they play the skins, all bets are off. other than that, i root for them to have good seasons.

haha... i think you're misinterpreting what i said. your talking about players you have personal some personal ties to. i rooted for art when he went up north. i rooted for clark when he went west coast. ect ect ect. i also root for particular players that i like. for example, i always liked and rooted for jerry rice.

im saying that i dont wanna root for LT or LJ to have some great day bc it will help my fantasy team. i also dont wanna root for the giants defense to have a great game bc they are my fantasy defense... all that energy is saved for the redskins

[MD2ATLdiehard]

Thank You to everyone for your comments! My intention of this thread was to expound on my position & also read other points of view on this topic. Now, to make things a little clearer, I DO NOT play ff. Never have & never will, for the reasons that I've previously mentioned. I like to consider myself a football purist, but in reality, I'm more of a neanderthal fan. I'm the kinda guy that gets very pissed off when JC drops back to pass on 3rd & 2! 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust will ALWAYS represent true football to me. Of course that's just my personal opinion & I understand that not everyone wants to watch a 10-7 contest. I'm fine with that. What I don't like is how that fantasy stuff leads to some serious kool-aid drinking! But hey, like previously mentioned, it does bring more fans into the fold. Even if they posses a rank amateur's understanding of the finer points of strategy & play. My whole point is, can that be considered a good thing?

[FunBunch7]

I have Tony Romo and Eli Manning on my fantasy team and I am tearing my league up.

I intentionally went after NFC East QBs that were NOT Redskin so that if they stink it up at least things will be good for the Redskin...if they do however do well, whihc will hurt the Redskins, at least somehting positive comes out of it for me.

But I am 100% Redskin LOYAL...many times my fantasy players are playing the Redskins and I do not root for the player...just my Redskins.

But when the Redskins lose, it does take some of the pain off my sunday if my Fantasy teams do well....but I'm still depressed.

[drowland]

I tried to play FF one year. Didn't really take well to it. I know for a lot of people they like it because it gets them more interested in the rest of the league. But for me, I'm a NFL fan no matter what. I'll watch the 49er/Seahawk game Monday night just because it's a NFL game and I like to watch.

Now fantasy baseball on the other hand, I love. Baseball's the ultimate stat sport. There are so many games you don't have to worry about rooting for players going against your team. And it keeps me going through the Summer waiting for football to come back.

[kuraitengai]

haha... i think you're misinterpreting what i said. your talking about players you have personal some personal ties to. i rooted for art when he went up north. i rooted for clark when he went west coast. ect ect ect. i also root for particular players that i like. for example, i always liked and rooted for jerry rice.

im saying that i dont wanna root for LT or LJ to have some great day bc it will help my fantasy team. i also dont wanna root for the giants defense to have a great game bc they are my fantasy defense... all that energy is saved for the redskinsgotcha. i was thinking that might be what you meant when i was posting, but i figured id go ahead and do it anyway.

it might have been a better bridge between our two thoughts had i gone to school with peyton or LT or someone who makes a huge impact fantasy-wise. but apparently clemson churns out better defensive NFL prospects than offensive.

the players i can look past. but the defenses. no. i ended up with the eagles D in two of my leagues and dumped them as soon as i could. or found replacements. and ill never take the cowboys D, even if they were the top D in the league.

[Rawdawg]

Hehe, one guys said most people have one seahawk or niner on there team...not so much guy...if you have a seahawk or niner on your team, then your squad is probably out of the FF playoff hunt.

[RenegadeTK]

gotcha. i was thinking that might be what you meant when i was posting, but i figured id go ahead and do it anyway.

it might have been a better bridge between our two thoughts had i gone to school with peyton or LT or someone who makes a huge impact fantasy-wise. but apparently clemson churns out better defensive NFL prospects than offensive.

the players i can look past. but the defenses. no. i ended up with the eagles D in two of my leagues and dumped them as soon as i could. or found replacements. and ill never take the cowboys D, even if they were the top D in the league.

haha... exactly

i dont know... clemson's RBs could make a run in the nfl (no pun intended)

[llcamino]

I agree with the OP completely. From the standpoint of someone who doesn't play, it's frustrating to us because we can't seem to get away from it. It's getting harder to have a conversation with someone about football, without having to hear about who they "have" on their team. Unfortunately the people who play FF simply can't understand that NOTHING is less interesting than hearing about their Fantasy team. Look at how many people on this post have already given the rundown about who they "have". I know they're trying to explain how they can or cannot root for Skins oppenents, but honestly, WHO CARES!! I wonder if any of them are the guy that used to sit next to me at the games and mumble about his fantasy players on other teams while constantly looking at stats on his cell phone....AT A REDSKINS GAME! That's why it's not as simple as "if you don't like it, don't play". The problem is that it's changed what being a football fan means.

[SkinsFan48]

If you had LT, AP, Addai you would really love it like I do...Im in a keeper league and drafted LT first overall several years ago and picked two others up during their respected drafts...Gotta love it.....To the original poster, you don't have AP on your team like I do, do ya? If you had AP, you'd LOVE fantasy football!:cheers:

[MLSKINS]

Fantasy football is good I don't know what this dude is smokin on.

[thebootydr]

I don't get it! Fantasy Football is worthless trash!

[thelarkascend1ng]

I don't get it! Fantasy Football is worthless trash!


LOL?!??!?!?!!

[pray4surf]

I've been playing FF for 5 years and I love it.

I always draft the best player for that draft postition, but all NFC East players not wearing the B&G always get traded to some other team. I have never and will never start a Cowboy in my line up.

Nothing beats watching the skins win on sundays and then watching your FF team destroy the most obnoxious trash talkin know it all tool bag in your league (every league has that one guy who thinks he knows it all).
Then you call him on tuesday....whut now biotch!
It's even better when he's a coworker and you can just keep reminding him about it all week.

[Chief skin]

I can take it or leave it, played last year this year blew it off

[GOSKN5]

yep the no cowboys rule is in effect for me as well.... I did use their kicker once when mine was on a bye.. but even then i didnt root for him...

[MEANDWARF]

:bsflag: Your teams sucks, don't it?