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Sarge
November-9th-2007, 05:52 PM
ACLU lawsuit to a liberal activist judge in 5......4.............3............2........1...... ..


http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gEBi7jBE6u4K4jS7EHGWQiZ5nRSg


LOS ANGELES (AFP) — A plan by the Los Angeles Police Department's counter-terrorism bureau to map Muslim groups in the city has angered civil rights activists and community leaders, it was reported Friday.

The Los Angeles Times reported that the LAPD wants to create a map of Muslim groups in order to help communities avoid the influence of radicals seeking to incite "violent, ideologically-based extremism."

"We are seeking to identify at-risk communities," LAPD deputy chief Michael Downing told the Times. "We are looking for communities and enclaves based on risk factors that are likely to become isolated.

"We want to know where the Pakistanis, Iranians and Chechens are so we can reach out to those communities."

The Times quoted Downing as saying that the Muslim Public Affairs Council had indicated support for the program "in concept."

The group's executive director Salam Al-Marayati told the newspaper it wanted to meet with the LAPD next week to discuss the issue.

"We will work with the LAPD and give them input, while at the same time making sure that people's civil liberties are protected," said Al-Marayati, commending Downing's "forthright engagement with the Muslim community."

However the plan was condemned by other Muslim groups, with the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California accusing the LAPD of "racial profiling."

"We certainly reject this idea completely," the council's executive-director Shakeel Syed told the Times. "This stems basically from this presumption that there is homogenized Muslim terrorism that exists among us."

The Los Angeles branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations also criticized the plan. Council official Hussam Ayloush said mapping "basically turns the LAPD officers into religious political analysts, while their role is to fight crime and enforce the laws."

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and community groups have a letter to the LAPD expressing "grave concerns" about the program, reports said.

"The mapping of Muslim communities . . . seems premised on the faulty notion that Muslims are more likely to commit violent acts than people of other faiths," the Times quoted the letter as saying.

According to reports an estimated 500,000 Muslims live in the Greater Los Angeles area, the country's second-biggest concentration outside of New York.

Predicto
November-9th-2007, 06:04 PM
Hmmm. If this really is as innocuous as the police are claiming, all that is needed is a little public outreach.

People tend to get concerned with things when they hear rumors and have inadequate information. Witness the dozens of worldnetdaily threads you have started that got people all worked up, but turned out to be nothing but smoke.

So, I imagine that this will all work out fine for the LAPD.

Chief skin
November-9th-2007, 10:35 PM
THEY are the enemy and they are here amongst us, a threat to this country and our way of life. I am neither gop or dem just an American who calls it like I see it. Crucify me or agree with me either way time will tell if we are allowing a ticking time bomb in our midst or religous discrimination/profiling

909997
November-9th-2007, 10:59 PM
THEY are the enemy and they are here amongst us, a threat to this country and our way of life. I am neither gop or dem just an American who calls it like I see it. Crucify me or agree with me either way time will tell if we are allowing a ticking time bomb in our midst or religous discrimination/profiling

Who is they?

Last time i checked osama bin ladin wasnt american.

cjcdaman
November-9th-2007, 11:05 PM
THEY are the enemy and they are here amongst us, a threat to this country and our way of life. I am neither gop or dem just an American who calls it like I see it. Crucify me or agree with me either way time will tell if we are allowing a ticking time bomb in our midst or religous discrimination/profiling


It's a ticking time bomb, and sadly that might be what our country needs to realize that a lot of "them" want us dead. 9/11 wasn't enough?

Chief skin
November-10th-2007, 07:13 AM
Who is they?

Last time i checked osama bin ladin wasnt american.


MUSLIMS, there first allegiance is not to America it is to that CULT THEY call a religion. Thanks for the tip

Prosperity
November-10th-2007, 07:18 AM
It's a ticking time bomb, and sadly that might be what our country needs to realize that a lot of "them" want us dead. 9/11 wasn't enough?


99.99% of them are you


furthermore, enough with the vague bull****, what are you advocating? What do you think "We" should do.

SUNSTONE
November-10th-2007, 08:10 AM
Peacefull Muslims should understand and cooperate, in times like this.
It's not like the cops are saying all Muslims are terrorists.

What if an attack broke out in LA? How bad would the peacefull Muslims feel knowing there was a chance they could have stopped this if only they had just given up some info.

Larry
November-10th-2007, 09:50 AM
Peacefull Muslims should understand and cooperate, in times like this.
It's not like the cops are saying all Muslims are terrorists.

No, all they (and a few people who hate America in this thread) are saying is that Muslims aren't Americans, and that they're suspected terrorists.

For now.

ACW
November-10th-2007, 10:48 AM
MUSLIMS, there first allegiance is not to America it is to that CULT THEY call a religion. Thanks for the tipSo Christianity is a cult? No less so than Islam (I'm Jewish FWIW).

:munchout:

mojobo
November-10th-2007, 12:15 PM
MUSLIMS, there first allegiance is not to America it is to that CULT THEY call a religion. Thanks for the tip
Yeah i think i know enough Muslims to know that thats not even close to the fact. I'm guessing you want to bring the internment camps out of retirement though since they proved to be helpful before :rolleyes:

The_cavalierman
November-10th-2007, 12:27 PM
The ACLU should sue the crap out of LAPD unless the LAPD is mapping all ethnic groups.

The LAPD has enough bad history when it comes to race relations. Perhaps if they tried a little community outreach instead of ethnic mapping they could achieve the results they seek without trampling on the constitution.

The_cavalierman
November-10th-2007, 12:31 PM
MUSLIMS, there first allegiance is not to America it is to that CULT THEY call a religion. Thanks for the tip

:munchout:

These little "My god/religion is better than your God/religion" exchanges are why I am convinced that religion is nothing more than social grouping and mind control for the masses. People that do not want to feel alone or need to believe in something bigger than themselves need a God.

If there is a God he/she/it has to be really disappointed in our idea of religion considering the results we've seen thus far.

Carry on...