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Ray Brown
November-13th-2007, 12:13 PM
In my opinion the only way that we can pull of an upset this weekend is if the O-Line has its best performance of the year. I feel as if this unit is starting to gel and play extremely well together, as evidenced by Portis' recent breakout. If the line can contain Dallas' pash rush we have a real chance. Not only will this allow for clock managment which keeps our banged up D off the field against their explosive offense, it free up Chris Cooley to do some real work. Lets face it, our recievers havent been consistent at all this year, and if Santana doesnt play, then we have no deep threat. Lets remember two years ago when we absolutley embarrassed Dallas 35-7 at Fed Ex. The key to that game was Chris Cooley having the game of his career and our defensive line having 7 sacks i think? Lets pray we can find a way to manage the clock and get the ball in the endzone. Hail

Skins4Life28
November-13th-2007, 12:14 PM
Pretty much I say we have to throw caution to the wind on defense, and play ball control on offense. Keep the pukes offense off the field.

SantanaMossIsMyHomeboy
November-13th-2007, 12:15 PM
the key to this game was sean taylor. without him Romo is going to pick us apart

Ray Brown
November-13th-2007, 12:33 PM
Romo wont have a chance to do anything if we keep him off the field most of the game

#98QBKiller
November-13th-2007, 12:34 PM
Pretty much I say we have to throw caution to the wind on defense, and play ball control on offense. Keep the pukes offense off the field.


Joe Gibbs? When did you get an ES account?

Bigmuss1
November-13th-2007, 12:35 PM
Joe Gibbs? When did you get an ES account?

HAHA:laugh: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh: :cheers:

ImRickJamesB
November-13th-2007, 12:36 PM
the key to this game was sean taylor. without him Romo is going to pick us apart

:rolleyes: Im already sooo tired of this excuse!

Sean Taylor is a very good player (not great), but he isn't the difference in this game....

Yeah, I'm sure Sean Taylor would've single-handedly shut down the NFL's #2 offense... I mean that's a given, what with the way Taylor helped y'all handle the Leagues #1 offense (Pats 52-7).....:rolleyes:

The difference in this game is the disparity in talent between Tony Romo and Jason Campbell..... Romo will slice and dice your 11th ranked D (that was with Taylor).... Campbell will struggle against Dallas' 7th ranked D! That's the difference!

#98QBKiller
November-13th-2007, 12:43 PM
Sean Taylor is a very good player (not great)


You seriously wouldn't call Sean Taylor a great player?

In JC We Trust
November-13th-2007, 12:48 PM
[QUOTE=ImRickJamesB]

Sean Taylor is a very good player (not great), but he isn't the difference in this game....


You lost all credibility with this statement. If you truly believe this, you are just like any other cowpuke fan, you know nothing about football. ST is a gamechanger (ask T.O, as he always seems to pull up a little short on his routes when ST is around). You probably think Roy Williams is a better safety than ST right?? Haha what a joke. :dallasuck

jthor99
November-13th-2007, 12:49 PM
We have to pressure Romo from the right side to make him roll left. Ask any scout or anyone who has watched film of the guy her struggles mightly when rolling to his left. Just watch the Buffalo Bills game

ImRickJamesB
November-13th-2007, 12:58 PM
You seriously wouldn't call Sean Taylor a great player?

Please! The word great is reserved for HOF type players.... Taylor aint on that level! He's a good Safety, in a League that is full of good Safeties, but he's done nothing so far in his career to seperate himself from the rest of the pack! He's definitely not the best Safety in the League (Bob Sanders, Ed Reed, ect.)....

But all that's beside the point, you have to admit, Sean Taylor is not the reason the Skins are gonna lose to Dallas.......

onnie007
November-13th-2007, 01:06 PM
Sean Taylor is a very good player (not great)....


Huh?:wtf: :thud: I'd say a safety whose PRESENCE prevents teams, INCLUDING THE PATRIOTS, from throwing down the middle of the field makes Sean Taylor is a SPECIAL player. The man hits harder than any other safety in the league. It is HUGE that he is not available for this game.

In JC We Trust
November-13th-2007, 01:07 PM
Please! The word great is reserved for HOF type players.... Taylor aint on that level! He's a good Safety, in a League that is full of good Safeties, but he's done nothing so far in his career to seperate himself from the rest of the pack! He's definitely not the best Safety in the League (Bob Sanders, Ed Reed, ect.)....

But all that's beside the point, you have to admit, Sean Taylor is not the reason the Skins are gonna lose to Dallas.......


Your right, ST isn't the only reason we will lose this game. But you can't say that your team would be that good without their starting safety, cb, wr, olb, rt, and rg. I mean I am the last guy to make excuses about losing, but those injuries are huge. The Cowpukes are missing their 2nd wr.....that's it. Gotta be nice having your entire team healthy.

SpecOps
November-13th-2007, 01:12 PM
The key to this game is prayer...

That's the only chance this team has...

DaBoys84
November-13th-2007, 01:20 PM
Taylor can cover 1 person...but when you have to choose between Owens or Witten, it really doesn't matter, does it?

And while Crayton is not Glenn, he has certainly proven himself to be a reliable #2 receiver to be nice release valve for Tony.

And without Taylor now?

Romo is going to light it up.

DallasDW00ds0n
November-13th-2007, 01:20 PM
Huh?:wtf: :thud: I'd say a safety whose PRESENCE prevents teams, INCLUDING THE PATRIOTS, from throwing down the middle of the field makes Sean Taylor is a SPECIAL player. The man hits harder than any other safety in the league. It is HUGE that he is not available for this game.

yeah one player would stop the #2 Offense in the league himself. I mean he did wonders to the #1 Offense, it could only be better against the #2, AMIRITE?!?!

DaBoys84
November-13th-2007, 01:23 PM
yeah one player would stop the #2 Offense in the league himself. I mean he did wonders to the #1 Offense, it could only be better against the #2, AMIRITE?!?!

Dallas doesn't live going down the field. They take their shots, once in a while...but if you've watched them, Romo likes the sidelines a lot. The middle opens up for Witten when Owens gets the attention.

Pick your poison this week Skins fans...

#98QBKiller
November-13th-2007, 01:25 PM
Please! The word great is reserved for HOF type players.... Taylor aint on that level! He's a good Safety, in a League that is full of good Safeties, but he's done nothing so far in his career to seperate himself from the rest of the pack! He's definitely not the best Safety in the League (Bob Sanders, Ed Reed, ect.)....

But all that's beside the point, you have to admit, Sean Taylor is not the reason the Skins are gonna lose to Dallas.......



I didn't say he was the reason.

I guess we have a different definition of great. To me a HOF player is better than great, but great players eventually become HOF players.


Also, Bob Sanders is not a better safety than Sean Taylor is. You haven't thrown it out there yet but please don't tell me that Roy Williams is either.

I'll be honest with you, I call a spade a spade and refrain from pissing matches over players. I've steadily admitted that Tony Romo is a great QB and that TO is a great receiver and I give Dallas props when they are good, like this season, but...

Roy Williams is the most overrated player in the NFL period. He sucks in coverage, he misses tackles and every other tackle he does make is a horse collar, or close to one.

DaBoys84
November-13th-2007, 01:30 PM
I didn't say he was the reason.

I guess we have a different definition of great. To me a HOF player is better than great, but great players eventually become HOF players.


Also, Bob Sanders is not a better safety than Sean Taylor is. You haven't thrown it out there yet but please don't tell me that Roy Williams is either.

I'll be honest with you, I call a spade a spade and refrain from pissing matches over players. I've steadily admitted that Tony Romo is a great QB and that TO is a great receiver and I give Dallas props when they are good, like this season, but...

Roy Williams is the most overrated player in the NFL period. He sucks in coverage, he misses tackles and every other tackle he does make is a horse collar, or close to one.

Why was Roy Williams so good in the beginning? Darren Woodson.

With Woodson's ability to cover, it freed up Williams to hang around the line of scrimmage and play the run, the short pass, or blitz. He was good.

Without Woodson back there, Williams's inability to cover is shining through. Plain and simple, the weakest part of the Dallas Defense is the safeties. I wish we had a cover safety like Darren again, but I don't see that happening any time soon.

If the Skins can get single coverage with Roy on Cooley, Cooley could have a big game ala Shockey. Will that be enough? I doubt it...but there you go.

DarrellGreenFan
November-13th-2007, 01:30 PM
We'll be going in as the underdog, and when you are going against a better team you need to take a bunch of chances. That means pressuring heavily on defense and playing a lot of man to man coverage and hoping Romo makes some mistakes leading to a few turnovers. On offense, that means taking some shots down the field and using some gadget plays to try to get a few big plays against the Cowboys. That would not guarantee us a win by any means, but if we gambled alot in this game and those gambles pay off, we could pull off an upset.

That's not what we will do though. What we will do is play conservatively on defense and focus on taking away the big play, allowing Dallas to march down the field at will. Then on offense, Gibbs will get scared and play a very conservative and predictable offense, one which won't have a chance of keeping up with Dallas.

ImRickJamesB
November-13th-2007, 01:49 PM
Your right, ST isn't the only reason we will lose this game. But you can't say that your team would be that good without their starting safety, cb, wr, olb, rt, and rg. I mean I am the last guy to make excuses about losing, but those injuries are huge. The Cowpukes are missing their 2nd wr.....that's it. Gotta be nice having your entire team healthy.

Actually, we were missing our starting CB's (Newman and Henry) for a large part of the season....

And as you mentioned, we've been without our #2 WR for the entire season! Terry Glenn was coming off back-to-back 1000+ yard seasons......

We were also without starting OLB/DE Greg Ellis for much of the season.....

Also Dallas' starting NT Jason Ferguson has (and will) miss the entire season.....

Yet we're still 8-1...... :cool:

Want better depth? Stop trading away draft picks!

MUSICCITY
November-13th-2007, 01:55 PM
I'm a Cowboys fan and here is how you beat the Cowboys.

1 Find a way to get Cooley one on one with Williams. The Giants did it by splitting Shockey wide.

2 Forget stunts and blitzes, I know that sounds crazy but the Cowboys line is the best at picking up stunts and blitzes this year. Patriots, Giants, and Eagles blitzed almost every time and it didn't stop the Cowboys from scoring. Jaws put it best, he said Romo was not Namath or Marino fast with his releases but he was fast. The cowboys used a horn last year in training camp to try and speed up Bledsoe. There were reports from camp that Romo was getting the ball out a whole second before the horn and Bledsoe was a full second after the horn. Click, Click, Bang! Instead the Bills had the right idea, slow the pass rush down and keep contain and do not let him out of the pocket that's when Romo goes deep and he is accurate. Since the Bills game the cowboys have learned to dunk pass to Barber and Jones and it has worked.

3 Special teams, the cowboys have a good field goal kicker but his kicks against the Giants never got past the 10 and were closer to the 20 this last week. I think folk is hitting the Rookie wall and may be getting tired. The cowboys are horrendous at special teams otherwise.

4 Henry regressed from his ankle injury according to Wade Phillips Monday presser. Reeves will play a fast receiver 20 yards down the field. He seriously gives a 10 yard cushion. Slants and quick outs will be there all day but nothing deep because he is very fast. He does not get beat deep. He gets killed underneath. Dont even look Newman's way, why? You have Reeves and Williams on one side of the field.

5 I watched the game tape against the Giants and Dallas is soft at nose tackle. Tank is quick and so is Ratliff but neither hold the point of attack. The Redskins have a CLEAR advantage with their trap and power running. It wouldn't surprise me if the Redskins run for five yards a carry.

I have more to say but I have to go.

#98QBKiller
November-13th-2007, 02:27 PM
Why was Roy Williams so good in the beginning? Darren Woodson.

With Woodson's ability to cover, it freed up Williams to hang around the line of scrimmage and play the run, the short pass, or blitz. He was good.

Without Woodson back there, Williams's inability to cover is shining through. Plain and simple, the weakest part of the Dallas Defense is the safeties. I wish we had a cover safety like Darren again, but I don't see that happening any time soon.

If the Skins can get single coverage with Roy on Cooley, Cooley could have a big game ala Shockey. Will that be enough? I doubt it...but there you go.


It's nice to hear this coming from a Cowboys fan. Because like I said (of course I hate the Cowboys) but some Redskins fans will say things that just aren't true out of hatred (Romo sucks, Marion Barber sucks, TO sucks, etc. etc.), I will make jokes about those guys and whatever but when it comes down to it you can't pretend that a player isn't good when they are.

With Roy Williams, it gets under my skin because a lot of the more uninformed Cowboys fans will tell you he's the best safety in football and blah blah blah, when he's really not that good. It bothers someone like me because I give credit where credit is due and a lot of Cowboys fans will just assume I'm bashing Williams because I don't like the team.

If that makes sense. :)

Redskins4ever
November-13th-2007, 02:49 PM
This is one of those games that's going to be won or lost in the trenches. Dallas has a good rushing attack. We have to shut down Barber III and Jones. Make them throw. Key on TO. We've faced Romo before. He's a very accurate and good passer. I give him that. But the key is Springs and Smoot jamming their receivers and making them throw. Offensive teams have killed the Redskins defense this year with underneath screens to RBs. Greg Williams needs to imput a spy on defense(either the MLB or one of the OLB) and key on a potential WR coming out of the backfield. We have to play smart defense in order to win. Lastly, on defense Preliou can not allow the receiver to speed past him. He has to step up in Sean Taylor's place.

On offense, hopefully we'll have Santana back. We need him. Portis should be able to show more progress with his carries this week. Cooley is a key weapon. If we can duplicate what we did on offense last week, we should beat Dallas.

Papabear
November-13th-2007, 03:09 PM
You seriously wouldn't call Sean Taylor a great player?

No he would say Tony Homo is the best EVar! :laugh:

:dallasuck

RalphZero
November-13th-2007, 03:28 PM
Gibbs accidentally locked the keys in his car.

skeenzfan
November-13th-2007, 03:41 PM
The key to this game is to make things happen instead of hoping they happen. We are underdogs and have nothing to loose by playing agressive on both sides of the ball. Call blitzes, throw deep, trick plays or whatever to keep cowboys off-balance.

If we try and control the clock and run the same **** we run every week then i guarantee that we will be blown out in this game. If williams runs the same bend don't break defense then pukes will put 50 on us for sure.

For once i want to see them go down fighting.

Sticksboi05
November-13th-2007, 04:24 PM
Please! The word great is reserved for HOF type players.... Taylor aint on that level! He's a good Safety, in a League that is full of good Safeties, but he's done nothing so far in his career to seperate himself from the rest of the pack! He's definitely not the best Safety in the League (Bob Sanders, Ed Reed, ect.)....

But all that's beside the point, you have to admit, Sean Taylor is not the reason the Skins are gonna lose to Dallas.......

If you think that horse collaring fool Williams is better than Sean Taylor, you are a crackhead. It's no joke why even ESPN who hates us put him in their midseason All Pro Team. Taylor is an absolute monster and game changer. That's like saying Hines Ward isn't a great receiver...

Renegade7
November-13th-2007, 04:27 PM
The only way we're going to beat Dallas is to attack them. Spread the ball out, shot down feild so they don't know what the hell we plan to do. Then, hit everyone with a blue star on the side of their helment repeatedly and violently, if for no reason other then to let them know we aren't going down without a fight. Romo needs to eat grass as much as possible, even if he doesn't have the ball in his hand. Show no mercy, because we can't expect anything of the sort from Big D. Not having Sean is going to hurt, but it's not like we've never beaten the boys' without him...

:helmet:

HIT SOMEBODY!!!!

GoodtimesNBigD
November-13th-2007, 04:44 PM
In my opinion the only way that we can pull of an upset this weekend is if the O-Line has its best performance of the year. I feel as if this unit is starting to gel and play extremely well together, as evidenced by Portis' recent breakout. If the line can contain Dallas' pash rush we have a real chance. Not only will this allow for clock managment which keeps our banged up D off the field against their explosive offense, it free up Chris Cooley to do some real work. Lets face it, our recievers havent been consistent at all this year, and if Santana doesnt play, then we have no deep threat. Lets remember two years ago when we absolutley embarrassed Dallas 35-7 at Fed Ex. The key to that game was Chris Cooley having the game of his career and our defensive line having 7 sacks i think? Lets pray we can find a way to manage the clock and get the ball in the endzone. Hail

Keys will be needed for your get away car after Dallas supplies the beating!:)

JLU44
November-13th-2007, 04:53 PM
The key to the Game? I can't believe after last week's dismal performance in the 4th quarter people are talking about, a key to this game. You have to be kidding, right? The key to this game is NOT SHOWING UP!

VBHOGG
November-13th-2007, 05:13 PM
Old school run it down their throat Gibbs football with Portis running for 180 yds while eating up the clock and keeping Romo off the field would definitely put us in position to win. But lets face it. That's not going to happen against this cowboys defense.

Cowboys are 5th against the rush and 16th against the Pass.

If Gibbs' game plan is to establish the run, so be it. I just hope they are willing to make some adjustments instead of forcing something to work that's not going to work.

If Gibbs uses the Jets game as an example as to why it makes sense to stick with the game plan and run the ball well then Gibbs is fool because the Jets suck and we got lucky.

mistertim
November-13th-2007, 05:26 PM
Gibbs accidentally locked the keys in his car.

I have to admit that was pretty funny. But seriously, I think we are going to have to open it up on offense and get creative on defense because despite what some Boys fans say, Taylor really IS that big of a difference. He is one of the only guys I can think of who can pretty much shut down an entire backfield and take away a QB's deep options. Look at the Lions and Packers games. Both were the #1 passing offenses in the league when we played them. They were getting tons of deep plays, etc. When we played them? Nope. The Lions went deep only a couple of times and one was a pick by Taylor. When Favre tried to go deep most of them were either defended or picked off by Taylor. Look at the Eagles game. They weren't going deep on us. Sean Taylor leaves the game. They go deep and kill us. Not a coincidence.

MD2ATLdiehard
November-13th-2007, 05:47 PM
Excellent points, from several of you. I would simply like to add that this weeks game is a division game, not to mention a late-season rivalry game to boot. Funny things do happen in these sorts of contests. I feel that we do give dallas matchup problems.


Old school run it down their throat Gibbs football with Portis running for 180 yds while eating up the clock and keeping Romo off the field would definitely put us in position to win. But lets face it. That's not going to happen against this cowboys defense.

Cowboys are 5th against the rush and 16th against the Pass.

If Gibbs' game plan is to establish the run, so be it. I just hope they are willing to make some adjustments instead of forcing something to work that's not going to work.


Otherwise, I'm in firm agreement with VBHOGG's statement. GO SKINS!!!

pjfootballer
November-13th-2007, 05:53 PM
Hope Romo gets kidnapped on the way to the stadium

pjfootballer
November-13th-2007, 05:55 PM
The key to the Game? I can't believe after last week's dismal performance in the 4th quarter people are talking about, a key to this game. You have to be kidding, right? The key to this game is NOT SHOWING UP!

We already did that against Arizona. It didn't work. We won.