Will The New Stadium For The Boys Effect Our Prices of Tickets?

[Blondie]

I posted this in the Around the League......and really wanted to talk about it here.


For the new stadium in Dallas, this is part of the pricing:
For the priciest club seats – and we're talking single seats here, not suites – a season ticket holder will pay $340 per seat per game, after forking over a one-time fee of up to $50,000 for the right to buy tickets for that seat for 30 years.

I just got my REDSKIN season ticket letter......and put up my deposit of $50.00 per seat.

I just can not imagine putting up $50,000 for the right to buy lower level seats.

Am I looking at this incorrectly?

Is this the new thing?

[Larry Brown #43]

Wow. That's startling. I guess it's something like a public seat license, which Jack Kent Cooke used to call the scourge of American sports. Paying a fee for the RIGHT to buy tickets. It's almost hard to believe it's legal.

But I must admit, the new Dallas stadium does look like it's going to be beautiful, despite the trash that will actually play in the stadium. So I suppose Jerry Jones believes enough people (or corporations) will fork over the money. Still, $50,000 just seems outrageous. Very few people could afford that, I would think.

I wouldn't expect this to impact things at FedEx, but that's just my opinion. I think Snyder realizes that FedEx isn't the most inspiring of stadiums, and imposing such an outrageous fee for the right to buy seats would really turn people off--particularly at a time where demand for Skins tickets seems to be cooling somewhat. I think it would be a PR and business nightmare for Snyder to do this.

[HOF44]

At our current stadium I don't think it will affect anything. Watch out though if and when Snyder builds a new stadium. I would bet he's taking notes.

[KingGibbs]

At our current stadium I don't think it will affect anything. Watch out though if and when Snyder builds a new stadium. I would bet he's taking notes.

No doubt about that and those that defend his practices won't be doing so anymore. :2cents:

[RDSCNZ20]

that can't be true, most of the brokebacks don't make 50K a in their lifetime..

[stwasm]

When Snyder builds that new stadium in DC, you can bet that he'll use the Cowboys' new stadium as a benchmark for justifying what promises to be outrageous prices. I don't put anything past him anymore.

[VBHOGG]

they do the one time fee in philly with the eagles already.

[RFKFedEx]

Jerry is probably employing the same strategy that Snyder is working with his TD Club seats in the lower level, midfield area of FedEx.

Charge an outragous fee to own the premium seat locations in the lower level.

Not every TD Club seat will sell in a season ticket package with those kind of initiation fees, but so what? Not every lower level seat in new Dallas sell in a season ticket package, but so what?

Enough of the seats will sell to make a nice profit from the PSLs and TD Club initiation fees, yet seats that don't sell in season ticket packages can be sold on an individual game basis through brokers, Stubhub, etc.

The individual game tix will draw enough profit being sold at market value to keep the seat liscensing fees outragously high, thus prices will not have to be lowered across the board to sell every seat in a season ticket package w/high initiation fees.

[paige3girl]

I think the PSL will be the new wave of the future... in Baltimore they started at $1500 a seat (one-time fee) and they are appreciating like real estate. Now to buy Season tickets you have to buy the PSL which worth anywhere from 5k - 15k (the last I heard) people are always talking about PSL deals up here.

[paige3girl]

At our current stadium I don't think it will affect anything. Watch out though if and when Snyder builds a new stadium. I would bet he's taking notes.

Oh absolutely.... if he builds a new stadium he will go the PSL route for sure.

[RFKFedEx]

It's funny that we're worried about PSLs when we have a ticket office that sends out multiple email offers to push unsold seats for most of our home games.

[sjinhan]

Holy $h!t.... this is what Blondie is talking about... CRAZY!!!

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/314767.html

$16,000 to $50,000 just for a license so you can actually go ahead and pay for the actual seats, parking passes, and beer?

Man this again reinforces my idea that the actual stadium experience has gotten too expensive and its just matter to watch the game on a 52" Plasma TV in HD using NFL Ticket... I guess NFL is officially going to going to be just a corporate event in near future

[sjinhan]

to add.. you gotta feel for that Cowboys fan who had those 4 seats in the lower bowl for years and years... He is figuring that he needs to pay $200,000 upfront in order to just retain his right to the seats that he already has... sad sad day in sports....

[DGreenistheBest]

And to think Jerry Jones is up for Hall of Fame induction this year.

[ke27on]

this is totally crazy. and the worst thing of all is the fact that this takes away from 'real' fans being at the game and puts more people who don't really care about the team but just have money to blow. whatever happened to letting average people enjoy a game???

[Horatio]

this is totally crazy. and the worst thing of all is the fact that this takes away from 'real' fans being at the game and puts more people who don't really care about the team but just have money to blow. whatever happened to letting average people enjoy a game???

Sad. It does look like the future of the NFL is going to be a stadium full of corporate types. We won't be able to get tickets unless we're lucky enough to be a higher-up in one of the compaines that owns seats...

[hail2skins]

Jerry is probably employing the same strategy that Snyder is working with his TD Club seats in the lower level, midfield area of FedEx.

Charge an outragous fee to own the premium seat locations in the lower level.

RFKFedEx, aren't the TD Club initiation fees five figures ($10,000 or more)?

The Dallas news article defined PSLs pretty well and the potential advantage to profit for them, especially if the team is doing well. But I wonder if you could ever sell the PSL back to the team. Just seems like such a hassle.

[RFKFedEx]

RFKFedEx, aren't the TD Club initiation fees five figures ($10,000 or more)?

The Dallas news article defined PSLs pretty well and the potential advantage to profit for them, especially if the team is doing well. But I wonder if you could ever sell the PSL back to the team. Just seems like such a hassle.

The TD Club fees here are a lot less than what Jones is trying to push in TX, but I don't believe TD Club rights are transferable like an actual PSL. Haven't reserched it lately though.

The PSL has proved to be an appreciating asset in places like Bmore. Purchasing one is to invest in the assumption that the NFL will NEVER decline in popularity. Not sure if you can sell one back to the team.

[Walking Deadman]

Good,
Maybe all the Dallas fans that show at the new stadium will be part of the let's sit on our hands crowd that plagues FedEx.

I can hear the line right now:
"Welcome to Cowboys stadium, the largest and quietest stadium in the NFL"

(Note: Replace Cowboys stadium and add FedEx Field and that may be a true statement now :( )

[RedskinsFanatic]

No doubt about that and those that defend his practices won't be doing so anymore. :2cents:

Sure I will, why? because you don't have to do anything you don't want to do. If something in your opinion is too high ie game tickets, beer, whatever then don't buy it, don't support it. Of course if it's something you DO want but can't afford it then I would expect nothing less than you and many others to whine about it.

It's HIS team, he can charge what he wants, those that want it, buy it, those that can't..whine about...incessantly. :logo:

[Hailskins94]

Its not going to be much longer until we see a huge fall in the pro sports ticket prices. It's not getting out of hand, it is already out of hand. I expect within the next 10 years or so it will be considerably lower. With the new age of all of the sport packages on direct TV, the emergence of HDTV, technology in general, and the growing hassles of actually going to the games, people are finally going to start saying screw it as a whole. Of course there will always be go'ers but if ticket prices keep rising I think it will start to thin out.

[hail2skins]

Another interesting aspect about the new Cowboys stadium is that the club seats (which will be $340/game) are not going to be on their own separate level between the upper and lower bowls (like they are in most of the new stadium) but are going to be considered those in the first 50 rows (comprised of three tiers) along the sidelines.

[hail2skins]

Its not going to be much longer until we see a huge fall in the pro sports ticket prices. It's not getting out of hand, it is already out of hand. I expect within the next 10 years or so it will be considerably lower. With the new age of all of the sport packages on direct TV, the emergence of HDTV, technology in general, and the growing hassles of actually going to the games, people are finally going to start saying screw it as a whole. Of course there will always be go'ers but if ticket prices keep rising I think it will start to thin out.

It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out, particularly as you said with the emergence of DirecTV and high-def. It does seem like people always talk about a breaking point yet between corporations and such the seats always seem to get purchased somehow. I remember living in Philly in the early-to-mid 80s and they were discussing the absurdity of $50 courtside seats at the Sixers games. Now $50 puts you in the upper deck at most NBA arenas. Always seems like there's still a lot of money out there willing to buy this stuff.

[freefalln]

it doesnt much matter to me, i let my tix go last year. until they put a better show on the field, and develop a team personality that makes me want to travel 400 miles on a sunday, i will wait em out. besides, it is too easy to find season tix in the nosebleeds for me to ever ante up a license fee...
it would be great to see the skinz move either back to dc, or better yet on the southside somewhere, and since i am dreaming, put a retractable dome type structure there...(that way the fans can drown the other team in noise, or either pipe it in like indy does!!)
oh, and a killer hi def , with scores around the league please!
thats my hope..