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NoCalMike
November-28th-2007, 02:32 AM
Yes, I know, too soon........

However, I would be outright LYING if I said this hasn't been on my mind somewhat in the last few hours. I mean watching sports is kind of an escape from the real world, until something like this happens.

I am just wondering how this tragedy might effect Gregg Williams' defensive scheme.

Williams has said plenty of times before that Sean Taylor played a huge role in the way our guys as a team play defense. His skills allowed Williams to do things within our scheme that would not be possible otherwise. I am sure nothing will change for the rest of this season besides finding someone else to plug into the Free Safety position, however what about beyond this season?

Lets face it, a talent like Sean Taylor only comes around once or twice in a generation. The guy was only in his fourth season and he was already one of, if not THE BEST Free Safety in the league before he went down with the knee injury. I don't care if we look to Free Agency or the Draft.....we aren't going to be getting another talent like Taylor for a long time to come, and that of course is if we are even lucky enough to land that kind of talent in any position. This isn't to say we won't find someone capable at the FS position. It doesn't mean we are going to suck at that position for years to come, however the harsh reality is, we had a potential HOF talent back there and you don't get to say that very often in a lifetime.

One thing is for sure, I would hate to be the guy either drafted or signed in Free Agency that is here to be Sean Taylor's replacement, of course that is an oxymoron in itself.....

:(

JaimeDeCurry
November-28th-2007, 02:36 AM
It just sucks knowing that literally no matter who we get, they'll never be as good. Watching our defense will never be the same without big #21 prowling the backfield.

Every time I see someone line up next to Landry, I'll think "That should be Taylor back there."

It's really not fair to whoever is our next long-term FS.

Joe Gibbs II
November-28th-2007, 02:47 AM
I dont think anyone can fill his shoes for quite some time. And probably nobody will play the game like he did, with his speed, power, and instincts, he is a talent that won't be matched for a while. Even then, it won't feel the same. He was already on his way to being in the HOF and its a shame we won't be able to celebrate that with him.

#21 Redskins
November-28th-2007, 02:53 AM
At this point it doesnt matter to me, win or lose I hope they just go out their and play for ST and give him something to be proud about.

Long-term, You cant replace a player like him. Now we just need to mold Landry and base the defense around him!

ImmortalDragon
November-28th-2007, 02:54 AM
At this point it doesnt matter to me, win or lose I hope they just go out their and play for ST and give him something to be proud about.

Long-term, You cant replace a player like him. Now we just need to mold Landry and base the defense around him!
Exactly, we can't replace him, just hope we're able to get close.

Sekhmet728
November-28th-2007, 03:01 AM
Gregg Williams' current defenses are built around Sean Taylor. No other team uses their free safety position quite like the Redskins because no one else had Sean Taylor. He redefined the free safety position and, in the process, redefined defense itself. That is what made Washington truly unique. That style of defense will likely disappear for a long time.
In short, we will start over. Sean Taylor was the cornerstone of our defense and with him gone we will have to rebuild. Sean Taylor will not be replaced. No player exists that can fill those shoes. We will get a free safety, of course, but he will not be a Sean Taylor and he will not play like Sean Taylor.
What will likely happen now is a new defense centered around using the blitz talents of Landry. I think we really don't have another young defensive player who has talent quite like him. If he or someone else pulls this defense together into shape through their dedication, I believe that would do justice to Sean Taylor's legacy.

Joe Gibbs II
November-28th-2007, 03:23 AM
The tampa playoff game was the first time ive realized the impact of a defensive player on a game. I have seen LBs dominate a game tackling, or getting a few picks, but those are individual plays. Before Seany got the boot that game, tampa could not pass it deep and our defense was stifling. Afterwards, they were throwing the ball downfield consistently and it truly made me think he was on a different level than most players in the NFL. And to believe, that was in his 2nd year alone. Someone could alter the game on the defensive side that much. He really dictates what the other team can do. He was truly a player you see once or twice a generation like someone said, and it hurts to see that people were robbed of seeing his greatness on and off the field.

I just feel privilaged to get a glimpse of what he has done, and to get a close look at someone who changed the way teams played.

Hunter_R
November-28th-2007, 03:24 AM
Greg Williams is going to have to step it up, or people are going to be calling for his head along with Gibbs'.

praise_gibbs
November-28th-2007, 03:41 AM
Exactly, we can't replace him, just hope we're able to get close.


You NAILED IT! I was going to post this same thing.


You can not replace a man of his caliber..

scruffylookin
November-28th-2007, 04:20 AM
This is a catastrophic loss for this defense. Like Sekhmed said, the defense was built around Sean Taylor's talent and there isn't going to be a talent like his out there in free agency or in the draft this year or any year for the forseeable future.

Sarge
November-28th-2007, 04:24 AM
Someone like Taylor only comes along once in a great while. Ronnie Lott was the last player that I can think of that played clean and scared people like that.

I remember thinking during that Dallas game with TO going amok, "Taylor will be back next time you see us. You won't be going crazy in Dec like you are now"

:(

MartinC
November-28th-2007, 04:29 AM
As many have said already he is simply irreplaceable. His combination of size, speed, range, athletic ability, hitting and aggressive attitude do not come along more than once or twice every 10 years. Sean may have been the most feared and complete safety since Ronnie Lott.

I think Gregg Williams had so much faith in Taylor and what he brought to our secondary in his ability to either take away the oppositions best receiver and/or the deep ball that it allowed him to make do with some average players on teh D'Line.

We can't hope to get another FS like Sean so the only way to try to cover the loss is get a better pass rush. Get a LDE who can get after the QB like Carter does from the RDE spot.

Landry can do some of the things Sean did but he is more of a SS than FS - however I suspect he will be asked to do more of the role ST had the balance of the year with Doughty taking the SS role closer to the line.

Matador36
November-28th-2007, 05:33 AM
Antonio Pierce said that he feels sorry for whoever offense we're playing this week cause he knows everyone will be playing Sean's style of football this Sunday in his memory.

Veretax
November-28th-2007, 05:39 AM
I'll be honest I think Snyder goes after a Free Agent to fill Sean's spot. I just don't think we can pull the trigger so soon on another young Free Safety. It would just be asking to much of the guy :/

shhrz
November-28th-2007, 06:25 AM
If they dont play an inspired game against the bills, then i really dont know if they ever will. I'm sure they will destroy the bills.

wysknz1
November-28th-2007, 06:26 AM
Ipity the guy that does replace him. what a daunting task.

Russell Shotgun
November-28th-2007, 06:31 AM
As hard as it is to talk about football and the future of the team, it is inevitable. While I doubt there will ever be another safety with the size, speed, ball skills, althleticism and toughness as ST, the team is going to have to try and salvage something anyways.

I was really looking forward to seeing how the defense plays next year with a few D-line upgrades and maybe a new CB. Our whole defense was built around ST, and he can't be replaced, but we're going to have to try and play regardless. I don't think we should change our defensive scheme. If we can find a free safety with speed and range close to Taylor, I think we could be successful with the current game plan. Even if he isn't the best hitter, I think Taylor's range was the most impressive thing this season.

I don't know of any free agents that could do the job, or any college prospects (don't follow college ball). I wouldn't mind so much if we draft a FS with the 1st pick in the draft. Knowing how important the position is to our defense, if that's what gives us the best player, then so be it.

LoveDaSkins172645
November-28th-2007, 06:42 AM
How can you even start a thread like this? Do you not get a child lost a father, a father lost a son, a mother has also lost a son, and you want to talk about the impact of his loss to this defense? I personally won't watch anymore football this year, I simply can't all I see is Sean holding his daughter prior to the Arizona game, for so many people here all they care about is the loss of a safety a football player, but I hope they also realize the father, son, brother and friend that we lost yesterday. There will never be a safety again like Sean Taylor and I hope and pray he is looking down from above happy in knowing that he meant so much to so many.......

RIP Sean you will be missed and you will always be loved, for ALOT MORE THAN PLAYING FOOTBALL.........

Mr. S
November-28th-2007, 07:06 AM
This thread was not meant to be classless. I know what the thread poster means. A month from now we will be talking about Sean's lost impact on the game as much as we will his loss of life and family left behind.

As mentioned, he's irreplaceable. I doubt we go after a safety in the draft since we do have Landry, but we are going to need to find some future replacement, unless Doughty steps up.

It's still crazy to think about though.

Soup
November-28th-2007, 07:13 AM
Taylor was Hall of Fame material. 5 INTs and he would of had 5 alone in the packers game. How can you replace a Green, Monk, Riggins, or sonny? Those players come once if that. Taylor is a redskin forever

RedskinsNation
November-28th-2007, 07:15 AM
Well I dont think Reed Doughty is the FS of the future. That leaves two options...either draft one or acquire one via FA (I guess there is always the trade scenario too). I doubt we would draft one.

There will never be an equivalent of Sean Taylor. I think we will try and sign someone via FA before we draft someone. The thing is though even if we bring in a really good FA (i have no idea who that would be) we will still have a big droppoff at the position.

RIP SEAN TAYLOR

capt1an chaos
November-28th-2007, 07:18 AM
How can you even start a thread like this? Do you not get a child lost a father, a father lost a son, a mother has also lost a son, and you want to talk about the impact of his loss to this defense? I personally won't watch anymore football this year, I simply can't all I see is Sean holding his daughter prior to the Arizona game, for so many people here all they care about is the loss of a safety a football player, but I hope they also realize the father, son, brother and friend that we lost yesterday. There will never be a safety again like Sean Taylor and I hope and pray he is looking down from above happy in knowing that he meant so much to so many.......

RIP Sean you will be missed and you will always be loved, for ALOT MORE THAN PLAYING FOOTBALL.........


What a big man you are. Maybe thinking and talking football on a football message board is a good way to cope with what has just happened for some people. Before you judge someone for the way they think or cope with a loss step back and take a long hard look at yourself. You are not perfect.....are you?

corrupt3d
November-28th-2007, 08:22 AM
There isn't a Sean Taylor or Laron Landry type Safety in any of the upcoming drafts...there is a guy out of Miami who we can probably get with a mid-first round pick, but he's no where near the level of ST.

For the rest of the season, I think Landry will play a more FS role and Doughty will play more in the box (his strength)...

...replacing ST is like replacing the Sistine Chapel ceiling - you just can't do it...

Brandon Lloyd Christmas
November-28th-2007, 08:28 AM
i would like to see him attempt to move landry into that spot for the next 5 games of the season and see how he does. he was very similar to sean coming out of school it seemed, and hes fast, hits hard, and is very athletic, plus has been considered a pretty smart football player. no reason we shouldnt try and use him in the centerfield role.

then we'd need an in the box saftey, and doughty should be used for that, as long as he doesnt have to cover. i just really dont wanna draft secondary anymore, unless rogers is completely finished or far from recovery.

Backpack3r
November-28th-2007, 08:46 AM
You cannot replace a player like Sean Taylor

Damn, just when he was starting to really shine

#98QBKiller
November-28th-2007, 08:49 AM
Ironically, the most talented FS in the draft this year is Kenny Phillips, he's almost the exact same size as Taylor (this year's Taylor, after losing the weight) and even more ironically, he plays at the U.

No one can replace Sean Taylor, but honestly Phillips is the closest thing we can get.


Here's his bio if you haven't heard of him:

http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/phillips_kenny00.html



Rest in Peace Sean, we will never forget you.

Zguy28
November-28th-2007, 08:49 AM
Someone like Taylor only comes along once in a great while. Ronnie Lott was the last player that I can think of that played clean and scared people like that.

I remember thinking during that Dallas game with TO going amok, "Taylor will be back next time you see us. You won't be going crazy in Dec like you are now"

:(Steve Atwater also comes to mind. Although he was nowhere near ST in other qualities like when he scooped up a fumble or INT and ran it back.

Dick Edds
November-28th-2007, 08:50 AM
I understand where the OP is coming from. I agree with many of you, Landry has to try to take over the FS spot for now.

Doesn't seem like there is another talent of Landry's level in the next draft, let alone half the talent of a Sean Taylor. But Landry is very capable of being a big time player. I am happy we got him.

I have been choking back tears for several days. This is tearing me up, and it will continue to do so. I just hope that the team can rally together and play well for Sean. he would want his teammates to bring their A games ... that's what i will remember most about ST. he payed with a fire and a passion that could not be duplicated ... hopefully our boys in B&G will find inspiration in that and will play that way the rest of their careers. HTTR!

Brandon Lloyd Christmas
November-28th-2007, 08:52 AM
Ironically, the most talented FS in the draft this year is Kenny Phillips, he's almost the exact same size as Taylor (this year's Taylor, after losing the weight) and even more ironically, he plays at the U.

No one can replace Sean Taylor, but honestly Phillips is the closest thing we can get.


Here's his bio if you haven't heard of him:

http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/phillips_kenny00.html



Rest in Peace Sean, we will never forget you.



actually, that would be pretty cool to have him in taylors place. he'd be the closest guy that feels like taylor out there.

man this sucks, im gonna miss those insanely painful hits he laid on guys. landry better step up because we need a new destroyer out there!

Russell Shotgun
November-28th-2007, 08:54 AM
then we'd need an in the box saftey, and doughty should be used for that, as long as he doesnt have to cover. i just really dont wanna draft secondary anymore, unless rogers is completely finished or far from recovery.

I agree with playing Landry more FS the remainder of the season as I think he's by far the most physically gifted safety now that Sean has departed.

But I'm not sold on Doughty. I thought Fox did a decent job filling in last year, I would like to see him get some playing time.

I'm not thrilled about the idea of drafting another safety high in the draft either, but if we can find someone with really good speed and range, we could move Landry back to SS which I think would allow us to use him to his strengths.

And for those who think we're being heartless - nothing could be further from the truth. Taking our mind off the loss by talking football is therapy, even if only for a few minutes.

nightbird
November-28th-2007, 08:56 AM
Just think about how Reed Doughty must feel right now.

Thrust into the starting lineup to replace his murdered friend.

SkinsHokieFan
November-28th-2007, 09:00 AM
Landry to the free and bring in a vet in the offseason to take the strong spot

That or drafting Kenny Phillips, but I think he'll be a first round pick. We need to re-build this D from the line out, especially if Rogers is not the same player anymore

Hayden
November-28th-2007, 09:09 AM
Whoever does fill his spot next season, it would be nice to see them honor Taylor in some way. It isn't fair to ask the person to replace Taylor, but that he should only do his best everyday and every game, just like Taylor did.

If it was me next season, I would wear 42 to honor Taylor.

drowland
November-28th-2007, 09:13 AM
How can you even start a thread like this? Do you not get a child lost a father, a father lost a son, a mother has also lost a son, and you want to talk about the impact of his loss to this defense? I personally won't watch anymore football this year, I simply can't all I see is Sean holding his daughter prior to the Arizona game, for so many people here all they care about is the loss of a safety a football player, but I hope they also realize the father, son, brother and friend that we lost yesterday. There will never be a safety again like Sean Taylor and I hope and pray he is looking down from above happy in knowing that he meant so much to so many.......

RIP Sean you will be missed and you will always be loved, for ALOT MORE THAN PLAYING FOOTBALL.........


The players and coaches are returning to the practice field today, obviously with heavy heart. But they're getting back to football. I think's a appropriate for the fans get back to talking football.

As for the next great safety prospect. LSU freshman Chad Jones will be the next safety phenom to enter the NFL. They're already saying he'll be better then Landry. I watched him nearly run Darren McFadden down from behind the other day before he got blocked from the side. I mean, he was closing fast. He's 6-3, 220. Great speed. They line him up all over the place. As he gets more experience he can be scary good.

ScotsJet
November-28th-2007, 09:15 AM
Firstly, can I extend my sympathies to all of you, and those who are affected by Sean Taylor's death.

I hope this is the appropriate thread to raise a question that has niggled me, but seemed inappropriate to ask so soon - what are the salary cap implications of Sean's death? Are bonuses accelerated? Will the NFL step in, in these circumstances, and take special action? What happened with the young DB in Denver?

I can only assume the Redskins won't look to recover any bonuses from the family.

It's a truly horrific situation and I'm heartsick for everyone involved. All the best to each of you.

#98QBKiller
November-28th-2007, 09:21 AM
Landry to the free and bring in a vet in the offseason to take the strong spot

That or drafting Kenny Phillips, but I think he'll be a first round pick. We need to re-build this D from the line out, especially if Rogers is not the same player anymore



Phillips will probably be a top-15 pick, and considering the circumstances, I wouldn't mind drafting him at that spot if he's still there.

A lot of pass-rushing DL have been found in late rounds as of recently, including Aaron Kampman and Jared Allen.

DarrellGreenFan
November-28th-2007, 09:29 AM
I don't think I would ask a rookie to have to deal with the baggage of stepping into ST's shoes- it's hard enough being an NFL rookie without having to deal with that. Get someone experienced through Free Agency.

youngestson
November-28th-2007, 09:32 AM
I guess the practicle thing to do would be to put Landry at FS and start over again at SS. Laron should be a terrific player in time, but I agree with the posting that said it will seem as if there is a gap back there for a long time.

Warpath11
November-28th-2007, 09:36 AM
Another word on Kenny Philips from the U coaches...

UM coaches say he has "the body of Sean Taylor and the knowledge and speed of Ed Reed"...

dfbovey
November-28th-2007, 09:38 AM
In the short term, I am sure these guys will play all out at a high level at least for one week. The tough part will be concentrating. If it's effecting me at work to where I don't feel like working, I can only imagine how it makes his brothers on the field feel. Which is why I have no expectations for the rest of the year when it comes to results for this team. It would be selfish to have them. But I certainly think that the healing process would be helped out if we all rally around this team and they all rally around each other to do the best they can for Sean.

As far as strategy goes, there's never been a player like Sean Taylor at the safety position. Not a single safety has played the way he has, with his god given athletic ability. It's just not something that will be replaced. And since most of this year's defense was designed around that ability, Williams has his work cut out for him. Doughty and Prioleau have a tough task but I have to think that they will switch to a scheme that doesn't put as much pressure on those guys. Probably a cover 2. Figure out a way to get more pressure on the QB now that Marcus Washington is healthy again.

Russell Shotgun
November-28th-2007, 09:41 AM
I like the idea of drafting Phillips - good, talented player from the U. I know that if Sean had a choice, he would probably want someone from his school to fill his spot.

D-line is a concern of course, but I think we're a lot more improved than I thought we would be. Carter is really coming into his own, I like the addition of Chris Wilson and using Marcus as a 3rd down LB. We aren't getting more pressure because we aren't blitzing as much, but I think that's more of a playcalling issue than necessarily a personnel issue.

I still think we should draft a DE, but we could probably get a good one in the 3rd round. As in last offseason after Arch was booted, I think we should draft for our biggest need. There couldn't be a bigger hole on the team than at free safety.

Unless there's a really solid FA available, I say draft the fastest FS we can. He'll never fill Taylor's shoes, but it will probably be the best thing for the defense.

As hard as this is to talk about, I think it's what Sean would want us to do. Go back and read his interviews where he talks about how your life can be taken any minute, that he's not afraid of death and he's been blessed with a good life. I like to think that Sean would want us to think about football and think about the team. As hard as it is for me to do, it's part of the greiving process.

NoCalMike
November-28th-2007, 09:41 AM
I think the main question I am getting at is; Starting with the 2008 season, does our entire defensive philosophy change to a different scheme, or will the coaches try to simply find a suitable replacement and run the same scheme? I think the question is intriguing merely because we all know that Sean Taylor is what this defense possible. He wasn't the only cog in the machine, but it is his skill set that allowed us to get away with a lackluster pass rush from the D-line for so long. It is his skill-set that allowed us to go through so many cornerback injuries and still put up decent numbers as a defense. Basically Sean Taylor was to this defense, what a Ray Lewis was to the Ravens defense, or an LT to the Giants defense in the 80's.

When you lose a guy like this, is it as simple as "well we need a new Free Safety now" or will Gregg Williams go back to the drawing board this offseason and draw up a new scheme based on our current personnel???

dfbovey
November-28th-2007, 09:42 AM
I hope this is the appropriate thread to raise a question that has niggled me, but seemed inappropriate to ask so soon - what are the salary cap implications of Sean's death? Are bonuses accelerated? Will the NFL step in, in these circumstances, and take special action? What happened with the young DB in Denver?

The rest of Sean Taylor's prorated signing bonus will count against the Salary cap in full next year. It's not a large amount so the Redskins won't feel it much there in that regard.


I can only assume the Redskins won't look to recover any bonuses from the family.

They certainly won't. The Redskins gave Taylor an incentive laden deal and Taylor will obviously not meet some of those incentives now. The contract was set up to where the better he played the more money he would make.

Russell Shotgun
November-28th-2007, 09:51 AM
I think the main question I am getting at is; Starting with the 2008 season, does our entire defensive philosophy change to a different scheme, or will the coaches try to simply find a suitable replacement and run the same scheme?


Personally, I really like the scheme we were running at the beginning of the year. Injuries kind of changes things a bit, but I thought we were doing some really great things on defense. We were able to basically completely take away the deep passing game. I don't know if any other team has held Randy Moss or Roy Williams to as few yards and plays as we did.

Our biggest hole was underneath coverage and yards after the catch, but I think after this season Rocky and Landry will be much more improved in that regard and able to play the short passing game much more effectively.

If we can find a free safety with enough speed and range - we should be able to run the same type of defense and have similar success to the beginning of the year.

dfbovey
November-28th-2007, 09:58 AM
I don't think there is another safety in the league that has the capability to do what Taylor does except for Ed Reed. So I don't see the Redskins filling the need in free agency and I don't know that there is a safety in college that can do what Taylor does, I doubt it.

This defense was designed around Taylor so I would have to think they will change the scheme. He was a unique talent and basically not replacable in this system.

As far as next year goes, our secondary in general is a question mark.

The obvious loss of Sean.
The questionmark of how Carlos will be able to bounce back from his injury.
The questionmark of Springs and his contract.

The only parts that seem locked in are Landry and Smoot. Hard to say who else will be back there.

waterwagen
November-28th-2007, 10:09 AM
Landry is a great young talent and definitely a better blitzer than Sean was, so I have to think GW will rework the defense along those lines.

Like others have said, I feel for Doughty having to step in for Sean. At least the fans don't have a load of expectations for him. It would be much tougher for some young phenom who people had high hopes for, because you know no one will live up to Sean's rep.

Brandon Lloyd Christmas
November-28th-2007, 10:13 AM
it wouldnt shock me at all to see a huge defensive scheme change. nobody could play sideline to sideline like taylor, and if williams thinks he can just plug somebody in to replace taylor hes out of his mind.

williams is probably racking his brain trying to figure out what hes going to do now. i wouldnt wanna have his job at the moment.

CounterTrey
November-28th-2007, 10:17 AM
Sean was a once in a lifetime player. Only 24, already 3 seasons under his belt about to go into his prime and be a cornerstone in our defence for the next 10 years or so.

Thats why I feel robbed and cheated just like his family. We will probably never get another player of his caliber at that position at least in my lifetime. God this hurts on so many levels I can't describe it.

TMat184
November-28th-2007, 10:27 AM
On the field this is basically a top 5 pick gone to a waste....Sean Taylor was just a special special talent, he was playing lights out as the best safety in this league up until he got injured....Now, we have to really address this defense in the offseason. I just hope Doughty can become a player or Fox maybe so we don't have to draft a starter at FS or look for in FA cause CB (Springs old, Rogers ???) and d-line are concerns....Ahhh, do I hate even talking about this, still doesn't seem real!

BAFGA
November-28th-2007, 10:32 AM
It just sucks knowing that literally no matter who we get, they'll never be as good. Watching our defense will never be the same without big #21 prowling the backfield.

Every time I see someone line up next to Landry, I'll think "That should be Taylor back there."

It's really not fair to whoever is our next long-term FS.

I wouldn't say that just yet. Who knows? We may get Bob Sanders. I think he would be a worthy replacement for ST. Don't you think?

danthemann71
November-28th-2007, 10:35 AM
man....and we had trouble winning even WITH #21 back there.

it makes me think of the falcons' situation this year, how their whole offense was built around michael vick and now they're struggling.

but i think we'll see the guys come out with alot of passion this weekend...

Let's go skins...
RIP MEAST

BAFGA
November-28th-2007, 10:35 AM
Whoever does fill his spot next season, it would be nice to see them honor Taylor in some way. It isn't fair to ask the person to replace Taylor, but that he should only do his best everyday and every game, just like Taylor did.

If it was me next season, I would wear 42 to honor Taylor.

42 is out of circulation. Charley Taylor.

The Full Monty
November-28th-2007, 10:39 AM
Plain and simple: the loss of Taylor to our defense means we must address the d-line this off-season. A consistent and ferocious pass rush will take the pressure off of Landry and whoever our next free safety is, whether Doughty, a veteran FA, or whoever.

For the past couple years, with Osi, Strahan, and now Justin Tuck, the Giants are getting by with Gibril Wilson, who while he has some talent, is NOT SEAN TAYLOR, but he doesn't necessarily have to be with the way the Giants rush the passer.

I don't even really know who the safeties in San Diego were last year (McCree?) when Merriman and Shaun Philips were going crazy on QB's.

Address the d-line with high draft picks and our pass coverage won't be as much of a challenge.

mel25
November-28th-2007, 10:39 AM
i haven't read the entire thread, so sorry if this has been said. but this defense didn't just rely heavily on the safeties, it relied on sean taylor. i remember williams sayin that he saw him make plays that only sean taylor can make. therefor i don't think it would be smart or fair to ask anybody to take the responsibility that sean taylor had. i think we should just focus on solid play from our safeties instead of phenominal play, and rely on another aspect of our defense. now that may be hard to do this year, but the offseason should spent find another aspect to lean on, whether it's the d-line or becoming blitz heavy or something.

Gary Clark Fan
November-28th-2007, 10:45 AM
Sean was a once in a lifetime player. Only 24, already 3 seasons under his belt about to go into his prime and be a cornerstone in our defence for the next 10 years or so.

Thats why I feel robbed and cheated just like his family. We will probably never get another player of his caliber at that position at least in my lifetime. God this hurts on so many levels I can't describe it.


I couldnt agree with you anymore. Life is so unfair. We lost our best player. We will never be able to replace him.

BDOG510
November-28th-2007, 10:49 AM
Landry can be just as good if not better at SS. We need to find a suitable replacement for Landry at FS.

dfbovey
November-28th-2007, 11:17 AM
Address the d-line with high draft picks and our pass coverage won't be as much of a challenge.

I agree 100% with this. Taylor often erased or made up for our lack of pass rush, just imagine the plays he could have made if we actually had one. Cleaning up on QB mistakes and bad throws.

I'm hoping that they get some good young youth upfront, but I'm starting to wonder if that will be the case with what's looking like a very unstable secondary heading into next season.

The brightside is that we still have young guys like McIntosh and Landry to build around. But this is such a major set back. Taylor was going to hold down the position at an All Pro level for a decade. Was so looking forward to watching he and Landry grow as a tandem back there.