Was the Campbell shots retaliation ?

[Mickalino]

First, the shot to the elbow, and almost immediately after, the shot to the knee, and it was exactly the same type of tackle, as Griffin did on Grossman.
And after Chris Samuels knocked out Baray from the game with that chop block below the knee, I thought for sure the Bears would retaliate. So I wonder if the Campbell hits were in response to the Grossman and/or Baray knockouts

[Blackest Eyes]

I never really thought of it as retaliation. Just a crappy football accident.

[Henry]

I doubt it.

[kevinklein]

Doubtful. Just odd that it happened as so.

[greenspandan]

........no.

[onnie007]

Nope. Both were just natural events in the course of playing foobtall. Did you see the replays? Do we need a thread for this?

[BigRay]

I doubt it that is not their style that Bears team is a reflection of their coach Lovie Smith and he's as class as they come.

[speardog1]

Not at all. The hit started somewhat higher, both players just fell awkward.

[Englands Team]

No way Griffin knocked off balance and there was nothing wrong with either hit on Campbell. Got to say I don't like chop blocking tho.

[D'KanSkinFan]

"Mick", it does make you wonder - but the point I was getting from the announcers - this type of play needs to be a penalty. It is a career ending play for any QB, but each and every year TEAMS vote to keep it as an agressive non-penalty play. :doh: But we keep in a "kick out of bounds on the return" as 15 yard penalty?


Doesn't make sense - the amount of "protection penalities" surrounding the QB and this type of play is left in. Didn't Jason suffer from this type of play in pre-season? But last night, the Bears got the job done on his knee:(

[D'KanSkinFan]

I doubt it that is not their style that Bears team is a reflection of their coach Lovie Smith and he's as class as they come.

Agreed, but BigRay, sometimes players don't reflect their Coaching:2cents: ; NOT saying that Griffith or the Bears went with INTENT to take out a QB, just looks a "little suspicious" and I can understand where "Mick" is coming from with that thought.

[CurseReversed]

This is what I thought as well. It is not far fetched for things like this to happen in the NFL. When you have one or two players get knocked out by low blows teams to have a tendency to want to retaliate.

I thought that the player on the campbell tackle hit him high and had him wrapped up, then reached down and grabbed his leg and took him down landing on top of the knee.
I could be wrong but it seemed like it is possible this was on purpose.

[BigRay]

Agreed, but BigRay, sometimes players don't reflect their Coaching:2cents: ; NOT saying that Griffith or the Bears went with INTENT to take out a QB, just looks a "little suspicious" and I can understand where "Mick" is coming from with that thought.


I understand what you guys saying I might have to take a look at the play again but to me I just felt it was one of them freak accidents. I wonder how the coaches feel if they feel it was a cheap shot . I'm sure they will have the league look in to it.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

Shots? He got hit while in bounds running for the first and he got hit trying to move outside the pocket.

That's just football.

[RyansRangers]

one person grabbed his foot the other came in high not doing it together. So no

[MeNoRevs]

Shot on the elbow? He was going for a tackle and trying to give a big hit.

For his knee, the tackle did start out high and came down as Jason was trying to run away from the pressure. I dont think there is many people out there in the NFL that would try to injure someone to the point of major damage...

[laurent]

There was no shot to the knee.

It was a simple freak tackle, and in a way Campbell is to blame for getting hurt on both hits.

On the first hit he has to protect himself better, it's really that simple. Players aren't just going to let up, espescially if they have a chance to hit the QB before he goes out of bounds.

On the play where he injured his knee he held on to the ball too long and exposed himself to the defenders coming from the weakside. He's been pressing too much over the last few weeks, holding onto the ball too long in hopes of making a play.

He got dinged on a number of plays last week and the week before and his inability to get rid of the ball finally caught up with him.

[ntotoro]

Not at all. The hit started somewhat higher, both players just fell awkward.

Exactly. It's even more obvious it was an accident when you watch it in slow motion.

[Art McDonough]

The Redskins are so good at getting injured this year, no other explanation is necessary.

[w3wa2003]

did you watch the game? Especially the shot on the arm, zero chance that was intentional.

[HeHateMe]

First, the shot to the elbow, and almost immediately after, the shot to the knee, and it was exactly the same type of tackle, as Griffin did on Grossman.
And after Chris Samuels knocked out Baray from the game with that chop block below the knee, I thought for sure the Bears would retaliate. So I wonder if the Campbell hits were in response to the Grossman and/or Baray knockouts

You kidding me? The Bears were thankful you knocked Grossman out.

[GhostofAlvinWalton]

I’m embarrassed for anyone who thinks it was deliberate. :doh:

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[Jimbo]

Nope. Both were just natural events in the course of playing foobtall. Did you see the replays? Do we need a thread for this?

Do we need a thread for this? Of course. What is a "morning after" without a little conspiracy theory and speculation?

Looks to me like both plays were just flukes.

[youngestson]

If it was the Bears getting back at the Skins for Rex going down, than it was the most subtle and underplayed performance I've seen outside of Meril Streep.

Those things just happen in football, and if they had looked hard enough, the NFL Channel crew (which I thought was really pretty decent) could have seen the Bears cutting Griff the exact same way on that dropped pass to the TE in the endzone.

[Fan since a Fetus]

I can understand where you are coming from, but I do not think this was intentional. We just had a night full of bad luck. With everything this team has been through recently, I understand why they were tired and not physically sound.

[kuraitengai]

You kidding me? The Bears were thankful you knocked Grossman out.
i dont doubt that.

[RFK Lives]

There was also a shooter on the grassy knoll.

Certainly not intentional. Just very freak circumstances.

[Mickalino]

You kidding me? The Bears were thankful you knocked Grossman out.

Greise is EQUALLY as bad as Grossman.

It was Griese who threw TWO STRAIGHT Int's to Shawn Springs.

And also the question was also in reference to the questionable shot that Samuels made to take out Bears DT Baray

[shhrz]

retaliation for knocking out Grossman? They should have given us a touchdown for that.

[jbooma]

First, the shot to the elbow, and almost immediately after, the shot to the knee, and it was exactly the same type of tackle, as Griffin did on Grossman.
And after Chris Samuels knocked out Baray from the game with that chop block below the knee, I thought for sure the Bears would retaliate. So I wonder if the Campbell hits were in response to the Grossman and/or Baray knockouts



No, he should have slid to avoid the elbow shot. When he was hit dropping back it was a freak thing.

Chris made a very good point they need to ban all type of blocks below the waste. These guys are just to strong and can ruin someones career now with one low block.

[SkinsFanAnt]

this is what happens when 2 hard playing teams striving for a playoff spot come together...and remember, the Bears is the biggest Skins rivalry outside the NFC East.

[Zguy28]

Nope. No reason to believe it was anything but an accident.

[Peregrine]

No. Tackling someone in a normal fashion who is at that moment throwing the ball can hardly be considered retaliation. If so, thats the most pathetic attempt ive ever seen. It was just a freak accident.

[skinfan31]

"Mick", it does make you wonder - but the point I was getting from the announcers - this type of play needs to be a penalty. It is a career ending play for any QB, but each and every year TEAMS vote to keep it as an agressive non-penalty play. :doh: But we keep in a "kick out of bounds on the return" as 15 yard penalty?


Doesn't make sense - the amount of "protection penalities" surrounding the QB and this type of play is left in. Didn't Jason suffer from this type of play in pre-season? But last night, the Bears got the job done on his knee:(


It is a penalty. It's called the Carson Palmer rule. It was put in after his knee got destroyed against Pittsburgh in the playoffs. Almost any time the QB gets hit below the knee it's a flag. The play they were talking about was Samuel's play on the DT. That's the play that ends careers.

Anyway it was a clean football play on Campbell. Nothing anyone can do about it. It's football for Christ's sake.

[SittingBull]

From looking at the replay it looked like a normal play with no ill intent. Now the hit on Campbell in preseason against the Steelers I questioned. That replay looked very suspicious to me.

[TD Riggo]

It was merely a freak occurence. Taking Campbell down in the manner he did 8 times out of 10 would not result in a severe injury. Listen .. IF he wanted to take out Campbell's knee, he would have targeted his knee!

[LD0506]

I doubt it that is not their style that Bears team is a reflection of their coach Lovie Smith and he's as class as they come.

The same way the blatant clothesline that ended Ramsey's stint here was just accidental, but I don't think there was retaliation last night.

[SkinsFan48]

of course it does make you wonder but I dont think it was on purpose. Well I hope not.

[wysknz1]

I was at work during the game, but I just watched the highlights. I thought the take down of Gross-man was a penalty. I was waiting for the flag to be thrown. It looked low to me. I didn't see anything in the Campbell hit that looked bad.

[taylorcoreskin]

I really don't think so. IT was a blessing in disguise more than anything.

[edgun88]

Shots? No one took a shot at his knee. It was just the way he fell and the way the guys tackled him.

[Tom10Y]

The guy who tackled Campbell first tackled Campbell by the waist. Campbell then was carried by his momentum and his leg got stuck to the turf in an awkward way.

Looked like an innocent gang tackle. One Bear even tried to break Campbell's fall.

[GamaGoliath]

Nope. :pooh: happens...

[rlt2622]

i dont want to think of as retaliation, but it could have been.

[HateYanksDukeCowboys]

First, the shot to the elbow, and almost immediately after, the shot to the knee, and it was exactly the same type of tackle, as Griffin did on Grossman.
And after Chris Samuels knocked out Baray from the game with that chop block below the knee, I thought for sure the Bears would retaliate. So I wonder if the Campbell hits were in response to the Grossman and/or Baray knockouts

No.