View Full Version : This just in: Aikman praises Cowboys
tr1
December-7th-2007, 01:01 PM
Aikman was a good "analyst" until the pukes improved this year. As they improve he get homeristically worse... He' pretty awful right now.
http://www.star-telegram.com/332/story/346997.html
Cowboys Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman can feel the excitement that has returned to his former team.
The Fox NFL analyst stopped by the team's Valley Ranch headquarters Thursday and said he could sense a winning atmosphere like he once felt. The Cowboys are in the midst of an historic 11-1 season with big postseason expectations. Aikman believes the Cowboys would be the best test in Super Bowl XLII if they were to play the Patriots.
"I believe that the best chance the NFC has to win the Super Bowl, regardless of who it is they're playing, is with Dallas," Aikman said. "I think Dallas matches up extremely well against New England. And I think they match up with anyone else the AFC could put out there."
He also praised the play of quarterback Tony Romo.
"I think he's a much more athletic quarterback than I was," Aikman said. "I think he does things that are a lot better than what I did and then I think again at the end of the day it's about winning games, and I was fortunate to win a lot of those. I think if you put two of my best years together it wouldn't come up with the numbers he's going to have at the end of the season."
Aikman said he wouldn't mind mentoring Romo as Roger Staubach did for him.
"I've made it clear to Tony that anything I can do to help him or answer any questions for him," Aikman said. "If he wants to talk about it, I'd be happy to."
Dance04
December-7th-2007, 01:02 PM
Aikman was a good analyst, he is currently a good analyst, and will continue to be a good analyst.
rincewind
December-7th-2007, 01:03 PM
He's talking about an 11-1 team. So he can't praise them because he used to play for them?
I also don't see the big deal with him working with Romo. As long as it doesn't effect his commentary, which I've never seen evidence of, he should be allowed to have ties to his former team.
Fan since a Fetus
December-7th-2007, 01:24 PM
I think if the Skins were in the same position as the Cowboys, then Aikman would have similar praise for them. Aikman is probably the best commentator in the game today. I just wish they would get him a better partner than Joe Buck. At least Joe Buck is not Bryant Gumbel!
As for him helping out his former team, good for him! They supported him all of those years and gave him millions. If I was in his shoes, then I would do the same thing!
I don't mind as long as he does not become biased in his commentary. If that happens, then he needs to go like so many others.
Riggo-toni
December-7th-2007, 01:43 PM
What's wrong with any of this. I HATE the Cowboys as much as anyone, but Aikman is THE BEST commentator/analyst out there by far. Plus, Romo's stats are eclipsing his, so what he's saying is accurate. We don't have to like it, but get over it.
OWUeagleMD
December-7th-2007, 01:45 PM
He's the best in the business. Has been for a few years now, and still is.
If he was talking badly about an 11-1 team, then I may start to change my take on him.
doncherry
December-7th-2007, 01:48 PM
TR1,
it is actually quite unusual for Aikman to publicly praise his former franchise, despite his obvious soft spot for them. Most Dallas fans will tell you that he's extra hard on them so as to not appear to be homerish. Of course most Cowboy haters will reply that he's a homer and rail against anything of Silver and Blue origin. I suspect that the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but such is life....
Edit: I forgot to add, so glad you are back, this forum isn't the same without your "opinions"....
tr1
December-7th-2007, 03:17 PM
Okay, so fellas, tell me how you can be objective about a guy when you're tutoring him?
Sorry if I not buying it.
You only need to listen to his commentary when he's doing a puke game to see the blatant bias.
Hey, it's not his fault they have him do every puke game. It's just irritating to their opponent's fans.
:2cents:
DaveMason
December-7th-2007, 03:18 PM
So if Aikman criticizes the Cowboys when they are bad, he's unbiased. But if he praises them when he's good, he's biased. Do I have that right?
tr1
December-7th-2007, 03:21 PM
So if Aikman criticizes the Cowboys when they are bad, he's unbiased. But if he praises them when he's good, he's biased. Do I have that right?
Um, no, but when they're getting outplayed in a first half, and he says something to the effect that "the pukes a great football team," well, then, yes, he's not being very objective...
DallasDW00ds0n
December-7th-2007, 04:14 PM
outplayed in the first half? come on tr1, I expected better than that.
its not how you start the game its how you finish and Dallas is 11-1.
HeHateMe
December-7th-2007, 04:17 PM
Troy finally comin' around.
Took him long enough to recognize exactly Dallas has in Romo.
HeHateMe
December-7th-2007, 04:19 PM
What's wrong with any of this. I HATE the Cowboys as much as anyone, but Aikman is THE BEST commentator/analyst out there by far. Plus, Romo's stats are eclipsing his, so what he's saying is accurate. We don't have to like it, but get over it.
Nothings wrong at all Riggo.
It's just good ole tr1 being tr1.
Stirring the pot even though theres nothing to stir.
dallasfan
December-7th-2007, 04:26 PM
As an analyst
Aikman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thiesman
he's by far the most biased personality I've heard on TV
Dance04
December-7th-2007, 05:01 PM
Okay, so fellas, tell me how you can be objective about a guy when you're tutoring him?
Sorry if I not buying it.
You only need to listen to his commentary when he's doing a puke game to see the blatant bias.
Hey, it's not his fault they have him do every puke game. It's just irritating to their opponent's fans.
:2cents:
Seems like your the only one who is irritated. :whoknows: :whoknows:
dallasfan
December-7th-2007, 05:04 PM
Okay, so fellas, tell me how you can be objective about a guy when you're tutoring him?
did you start a thread when Steve Young started tutoring Michael Vick? Just curious. Did it even bother you?
TheItalianStallion
December-7th-2007, 05:07 PM
Aikman praised Campbell more than Romo during the 'Skins/Boys game a few weeks back.
909997
December-7th-2007, 05:52 PM
hes right coboys are 11-1
Cowboys12
December-7th-2007, 07:18 PM
Um, no, but when they're getting outplayed in a first half, and he says something to the effect that "the pukes a great football team," well, then, yes, he's not being very objective...
When were the Cowboys "outplayed" in the first half other than the Bills and Patriots game?
skinthemboys
December-7th-2007, 07:46 PM
As an analyst
Aikman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thiesman
he's by far the most biased personality I've heard on TV
Actually I disagree in both accounts. Yeah, aikman is a better commentator, but whenever I have watched either one of them calling a game with their former teams playing, it seems like they almost go out of their way to not say to much positive about their former team. I have always respected aikman for doing that. Their are certainly commentators out therethat seem to root against the skins and they make a habit out of it.
jnhay
December-7th-2007, 08:05 PM
Okay, so fellas, tell me how you can be objective about a guy when you're tutoring him?
Sorry if I not buying it.
You only need to listen to his commentary when he's doing a puke game to see the blatant bias.
Hey, it's not his fault they have him do every puke game. It's just irritating to their opponent's fans.
:2cents:I guess it's only okay if a Redskins analyst does it.
VCDefectors
December-7th-2007, 09:01 PM
Would someone please let tr1 know that while he's been out looking for Cowboys fans in Texas and getting all worked up over Aikman, the Redskins won a game this week? I'm sure he would appreciate the good news. -Thanks
DWinzit
December-7th-2007, 09:32 PM
Troy finally comin' around.
Took him long enough to recognize exactly Dallas has in Romo.Until the mid point of this season Aikman rarely showed homeristic tendencies. I've always admired him for this as well as his all around talent in the booth.
I understand why the homer in him bleeds through but I don't like it. Regardless of team, I do not enjoy listening to announcers (yes including JT) who push their team loyalties.
IMO one of the most important jobs of an announcer at a national level is being unbiased. For the first time in his short and excellent career, Aikman is stepping over this line.:2cents:
DWinzit
December-7th-2007, 09:32 PM
As an analyst
Aikman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ThiesmanI think you'll find few combatants on this statement. Joey T may be a beloved QB but as an announcer/analyst.......No.
BigDFan5
December-7th-2007, 11:00 PM
Aikman is the best analyst in the business bar none. he is unbiased and fair which is why this thread is bombing so badly
slogriff
December-7th-2007, 11:42 PM
IMO one of the most important jobs of an announcer at a national level is being unbiased. For the first time in his short and excellent career, Aikman is stepping over this line.:2cents:
Are you basing your statement of Aikman's bias on his offer to help Romo any way that he could? I would imagine the vast majority of players would help their past teams if asked. I personally don't expect ex-players who work for the networks to disavow themselves from their past teams. However, I do expect them to limit their bias in making comments about their previous teams. Emmitt and Michael are the blatant homers when it comes to ex-cowboys. Their homerism would bother me if I wasn't a Cowboy fan.
I'm curious about what particular comments Aikman has said that you consider are unfairly biased towards the Cowboys. I believe the majority of NFL analysts would agree with his statement in the attached article stating the Cowboys would have the best chance in the SB vs the AFC.
VCDefectors
December-8th-2007, 12:12 AM
Until the mid point of this season Aikman rarely showed homeristic tendencies. I've always admired him for this as well as his all around talent in the booth.
I understand why the homer in him bleeds through but I don't like it. Regardless of team, I do not enjoy listening to announcers (yes including JT) who push their team loyalties.
IMO one of the most important jobs of an announcer at a national level is being unbiased. For the first time in his short and excellent career, Aikman is stepping over this line.:2cents:
As long as Aikman calls the games in the booth as he has been doing in his broadcasting career, I don't see a problem with Aikman giving kudos to the Cowboys for their success this season.
swisha
December-8th-2007, 12:13 AM
Why is that tr1 is always irritated about stuffs that no one finds irritating? Oh, right.:doh:
VCDefectors
December-8th-2007, 12:28 AM
Why is that tr1 is always irritated about stuffs that no one finds irritating? Oh, right.:doh:
Good question. But give him a pat on the head for working so hard in digging up reasons for discrediting the Cowboys. He provides a valuable service to ATN.
esloan
December-8th-2007, 01:03 AM
Good question. But give him a pat on the head for working so hard in digging up reasons for discrediting the Cowboys. He provides a valuable service to ATN.
Wait, wait! I know....
Class dunce?
Village idiot??
Just kidding! This place wouldn't be the same without TR1 and Bubba!:D:D
The-Rock
December-8th-2007, 01:38 AM
Just because you are offering your help to Tony Romo answering any questions of his doesn't mean you actually are...any how many former players help our other former players. McNabb offers advice and answers to Campbell, so does McNair, and they are current players. It's just people helping others out. I don't see what it has to do with a broadcast. No announcer is objective out there, you get to listen to John Madden verbally masturbate to both Tony Romo and Brett Favre every time he calls a single game. He doesn't let his opinion on the guys go as a secret, that isn't objective...
I've never watched a game where Troy Aikman is out to say every negative thing about the skins or eagles or giants he can...it isn't like he's Darryl Johnston (who is an annoying homer) he calls things as he sees them. No announcer is purely objective...did you hear the tone of anger in Bryant Gumbel (Bears fan) as the Redskins intercepted passes and scored touchdowns? I'm sure Aikman has a favorite team..in fact I think its the 49ers or something...he played for the Cowboys and had success with them for years so he feels tied to the organization, understandably. I'm sure the Redskins weren't the favorite team of Theismann, Riggins, Jurgensen, Huff, etc. but they have remained tied to the organization that made an impact on their lives. If Riggins had a few words for Portis, I don't think it would make his radio show biased. If Theismann or Jurgensen had words for Campbell, I don't think it would make them biased either.
Troy Aikman is a good and fair announcer. He calls things as he sees it. Is he biased in favor of the skins because Clinton Portis is his favorite player in the NFL? No.
tr1
December-8th-2007, 07:42 AM
Aikman is the best analyst in the business bar none. he is unbiased and fair which is why this thread is bombing so badly
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
BDF, this is the funniest post by you yet.
Homer is as Homer does.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
tr1
December-8th-2007, 07:45 AM
When were the Cowboys "outplayed" in the first half other than the Bills and Patriots game?
:doh:
DWinzit
December-8th-2007, 07:46 AM
Are you basing your statement of Aikman's bias on his offer to help Romo any way that he could? I would imagine the vast majority of players would help their past teams if asked. I personally don't expect ex-players who work for the networks to disavow themselves from their past teams. However, I do expect them to limit their bias in making comments about their previous teams. Emmitt and Michael are the blatant homers when it comes to ex-cowboys. Their homerism would bother me if I wasn't a Cowboy fan.
I'm curious about what particular comments Aikman has said that you consider are unfairly biased towards the Cowboys. I believe the majority of NFL analysts would agree with his statement in the attached article stating the Cowboys would have the best chance in the SB vs the AFC.I have no problem with Aikman working with Romo. Actually I admire him for it.
There were no comments in the article that were unbiased and as previously stated I find Aikman to be one of the best announcers in the business.
I understand when slips of homerism come out during his announcing of a Cowboy game but here-in-lies my issue. I don't like watching games (any sport) where the announcer is a former player of that team. I blame this on growing up being forced to listen to Phil Rizzuto doing Yankee games.:puke:
Yes I know he is considered part of the networks number one team and the Cowboys are doing well but I'd rather not see him doing Cowboy games. There are plenty of other games for Troy and other good announcing teams that can handle the Cowboy duties. Heck, it wouldn't bother me if he did 17 of the 19 Redskin games next year!
tr1
December-8th-2007, 07:47 AM
I would imagine the vast majority of players would help their past teams if asked.
I'm sorry if you can't see a conflict of interest there.
But then again, you're a puke fan.
:laugh:
tr1
December-8th-2007, 07:49 AM
Aikman shouldn't be doing puke games.
It's just that simple.
http://blog.dallascowboys.com/forums/t/29850.aspx
Seems as though a bunch of puke fans think he's faking his objectivity to save his job.
Funny how some of us can see through his ploy.
Cowboys12
December-8th-2007, 08:18 AM
:doh:
No seriously, when were they? Redskins had a 3 point lead in the first half off a turnover.. 10-7 and 19 more yards the Redskins had.. I wouldn't really call that being "outplayed". Maybe on the same terms the Colts, Eagles, and Ravens "outplayed" the Patriots because we're use to them winning big, yes? But if that as any other game, I'm fairly certain you would say "The two tames are playing pretty even." But, wait.. you are the biggest homer I've ever seen, so maybe you wouldn't..
jnhay
December-8th-2007, 08:28 AM
Aikman shouldn't be doing puke games.
It's just that simple.
http://blog.dallascowboys.com/forums/t/29850.aspx
Seems as though a bunch of puke fans think he's faking his objectivity to save his job.
Funny how some of us can see through his ploy.
He's not a news reporter, he's a football commentator. Everybody knows he used to play for the Cowboys, but he makes every attempt to see both sides of a game even when the Cowboys are playing. That's what counts.
THEHEREAFTER
December-8th-2007, 09:17 AM
This seems like a real reach. I don't see the problem with Aikman. I think he's fair, objective and often very picky/fault finding against his former team.
doncherry
December-8th-2007, 09:22 AM
Aikman shouldn't be doing puke games.
It's just that simple.
http://blog.dallascowboys.com/forums/t/29850.aspx
Seems as though a bunch of puke fans think he's faking his objectivity to save his job.
Funny how some of us can see through his ploy.
actually it's not. He's on the number one broadcast team and they get whatever FOX dubbs as the weeks' biggest game. It has just worked out that the Cowboys have been Fox's feature game quite often so far this season because of the fact that they are doing really well and, as a result, he has been doing a lot of their games. You are a business man yourself, don't you think it behooves Fox to have their marquee team announcing marquee games? These aren't presidential elections he is covering, they are football games, and if this thread is any indication of the general sentiment among football fans in North America, your opinion is in the minority.
tr1
December-8th-2007, 10:28 AM
I never liked Theisman doing a Skins game...it's impossible for former players to be objective about their former team...especially if they retired recently from that team...
And, quite frankly, it's easy to see why puke fans think Aikman is objective when it comes to the pukes. He's bubbling, enthusiastic about them...just like puke fans are...
doncherry
December-8th-2007, 10:57 AM
I never liked Theisman doing a Skins game...it's impossible for former players to be objective about their former team...especially if they retired recently from that team...
And, quite frankly, it's easy to see why puke fans think Aikman is objective when it comes to the pukes. He's bubbling, enthusiastic about them...just like puke fans are...
If I was a Redskin fan I wouldn't like seeing Theismann do any games, he consistently spouted forth malapropisms - his "Norman Einstein" quote is my favourite though....
In terms of Aikman and the Cowboys this year, I can't imagine an objective analyst having anything positive to say about a team that is 11-1, he must be a homer.
BigMike619
December-8th-2007, 11:24 AM
I got your back on this one tr1. First off, how in the hell can you say the Pukes give the Pats a challenge when the Pats stomped their asses IN DALLASS?
How can Aikman give anyone advice when he still suffers from the concussions he suffered. And thats NOT me being a jerk, he has come out and says he gets migraines and still has side effects. Aikman is just all talk.
Third off, you dumb puke fans, of COURSE we are going to hate Aikman. For starters every game he has commentated for the Skins this year we have lost.
I think it is funny that you guys walk into enemy territory in the middle of a war and demand mercy. There is no quarter being shown here. Deal with it or move along.
Dance04
December-8th-2007, 11:29 AM
I have no problem with Aikman working with Romo. Actually I admire him for it.
There were no comments in the article that were unbiased and as previously stated I find Aikman to be one of the best announcers in the business.
I understand when slips of homerism come out during his announcing of a Cowboy game but here-in-lies my issue. I don't like watching games (any sport) where the announcer is a former player of that team. I blame this on growing up being forced to listen to Phil Rizzuto doing Yankee games.:puke:
Yes I know he is considered part of the networks number one team and the Cowboys are doing well but I'd rather not see him doing Cowboy games. There are plenty of other games for Troy and other good announcing teams that can handle the Cowboy duties. Heck, it wouldn't bother me if he did 17 of the 19 Redskin games next year!
quoted for truth.
TennCowboy
December-8th-2007, 12:58 PM
Um, no, but when they're getting outplayed in a first half, and he says something to the effect that "the pukes a great football team," well, then, yes, he's not being very objective...:laugh:
Hey, TR, when is the "hard" part of our schedule starting?
Robbieac
December-8th-2007, 01:37 PM
I got your back on this one tr1. First off, how in the hell can you say the Pukes give the Pats a challenge when the Pats stomped their asses IN DALLASS?
You really didn't watch that game did you? Do you realize that the Cowboys were leading late in the third quarter? After that the Cowboys started making some stupid penalties that was nobodies cause but their own. When a team is considered possibly the "Greatest team of ALL-Time," and they are loosing late in the third quarter, then yeah, I'd say that team gave the Pats a challenge. :doh:
BTW, that is really adult of you to put an extra "s" on the end of Dallas. What are you 7 or something? You must feel really big and bad...
gbrittain
December-8th-2007, 01:42 PM
Some things never change. Have you ever been to a team's message board and read a thread about how fair and objective the media is?
No of course not. The reality is most fans think the media is biased against them.
On the Redskin board I am reading that Troy is biased. On the Cowboys board it's Troy is a hater and jealous.
I think people just like to whine.
doncherry
December-8th-2007, 03:20 PM
I got your back on this one tr1. First off, how in the hell can you say the Pukes give the Pats a challenge when the Pats stomped their asses IN DALLASS?
How can Aikman give anyone advice when he still suffers from the concussions he suffered. And thats NOT me being a jerk, he has come out and says he gets migraines and still has side effects. Aikman is just all talk.
Third off, you dumb puke fans, of COURSE we are going to hate Aikman. For starters every game he has commentated for the Skins this year we have lost.
I think it is funny that you guys walk into enemy territory in the middle of a war and demand mercy. There is no quarter being shown here. Deal with it or move along.
Wow! Shouldn't you be at practice Kellen?
tr1
December-8th-2007, 03:50 PM
Wow! Shouldn't you be at practice Kellen?
Puke fans just can't handle the truth.
:doh:
VCDefectors
December-8th-2007, 03:53 PM
You really didn't watch that game did you? Do you realize that the Cowboys were leading late in the third quarter? After that the Cowboys started making some stupid penalties that was nobodies cause but their own. When a team is considered possibly the "Greatest team of ALL-Time," and they are loosing late in the third quarter, then yeah, I'd say that team gave the Pats a challenge. :doh:
BTW, that is really adult of you to put an extra "s" on the end of Dallas. What are you 7 or something? You must feel really big and bad...
Speaking of Troy Aikman, I think he said it best the other day when he stated that the Patriots are the best team in football, but they are not going to beat the Cowboys 10 out of 10 games, more like 6 or 7 out of 10. I think that sums it up nicely.
PC84
December-8th-2007, 03:54 PM
Puke fans just can't handle the truth.
:doh:
I don't think you can handle the truth that the Cowboys are the premier team in the NFC.
tr1
December-8th-2007, 03:56 PM
I don't think you can handle the truth that the Cowboys are the premier team in the NFC.
OOOoooo...ouch. Golly that stung...
:laugh: :laugh:
PC84
December-8th-2007, 04:01 PM
OOOoooo...ouch. Golly that stung...
:laugh: :laugh:
The truth hurts sunshine...you've been ragging on the Cowboys since April and you haven't said you were wrong yet.
VCDefectors
December-8th-2007, 04:16 PM
Puke fans just can't handle the truth.
:doh:
What would you possibly know about truth tr1? The only thing you have shown is the ability to take some insignificant flaw (real or imagined) about the Cowboys and stretch it into something false or stupid. You know it, I know it, and every ES member knows it. But keep doing what you do because it is rather entertaining to watch you do what you do.
Cowboys12
December-8th-2007, 04:56 PM
Puke fans just can't handle the truth.
:doh:
:laugh: .. Are you in any way related to Skip Bayless or perhaps are you him?
TennCowboy
December-8th-2007, 04:56 PM
Aikman has been hypercritical of the Cowboys ever since he left. I think he was overcompensating so people wouldn't call him a homer, but when a team is 11-1, it's hard to not be positive about only the 2nd NFC team this decade to have an 11-1 record. He sees a team that wins by an average of 15 pts, and thinks they have a chance to win it all. That's hardly over the top homerism.
I find it humorous that some of you think that a standard should be applied to Aikman that isn't applied to any other broadcaster.
VCDefectors
December-8th-2007, 05:07 PM
I find it humorous that some of you think that a standard should be applied to Aikman that isn't applied to any other broadcaster.
Sonny and Sam comes to mind...:laugh:
OWUeagleMD
December-8th-2007, 05:08 PM
Aikman is the best at what he does and his broadcasts don't suggest even a hint of bias.
bubba9497
December-8th-2007, 05:11 PM
Aikman is the best at what he does and his broadcasts don't suggest even a hint of bias.
a hint? :laugh:
usually he's neutral, but this year he's been showing his poke colors at times
royallypwned
December-8th-2007, 06:21 PM
:laugh: .. Are you in any way related to Skip Bayless or perhaps are you him?
:laugh: Skip = biggest hater of all time.
jnhay
December-8th-2007, 08:23 PM
a hint? :laugh:
usually he's neutral, but this year he's been showing his poke colors at times
Is that really wrong though? He gives credit where credit is due, and he probably takes some personal satisfaction in seeing the Cowboys do well. I don't see what the big deal is in being a fan of a team while broadcasting a game?
I bet most broadcasters in the booth have their favorite teams, but only Troy Aikman is called out because everybody knows he's a Cowboys fan.
I know if I heard some former Redskin great talk about a Redskins game, I'd be disappointed if he didn't show his support in some way.
Muzzah
December-8th-2007, 08:43 PM
This just in: they do have the best chance.
Who else in the NFC has a chance? Seattle? hahaha... Packers? Well, they could have a chance if Brett doesnt blow it. Best chance? Sadly the Cowboys
DaveMason
December-8th-2007, 09:15 PM
The Cowboys are the best team in the NFC. I hate it, but it's true. No amount of laugh-smiley-face graphics and "homerism at its best!!!" comments will change that. I'm sorry. This thread is seriously the saddest thing I have ever read.
VCDefectors
December-8th-2007, 10:29 PM
The Cowboys are the best team in the NFC. I hate it, but it's true. No amount of laugh-smiley-face graphics and "homerism at its best!!!" comments will change that. I'm sorry. This thread is seriously the saddest thing I have ever read.
:D
Actually, it's pretty much on par with the other threads that tr1 has posted this season. But give him credit for trying.
[[ghost]]
December-8th-2007, 10:32 PM
I disliked him after he started gushing over them during our game. He's generally a very unbiased guy.
I think its just an anomaly.
slogriff
December-8th-2007, 11:31 PM
Aikman shouldn't be doing puke games.
It's just that simple.
http://blog.dallascowboys.com/forums/t/29850.aspx
Seems as though a bunch of puke fans think he's faking his objectivity to save his job.
Funny how some of us can see through his ploy.
Gee TR1, visiting Boys boards? I didn't think you cared what Cowboys fans think or say? :laugh: You must have a 3-dimensional mouth to talk out of all the differnet sides of it.
I'm sorry if you can't see a conflict of interest there.
But then again, you're a puke fan.
:laugh:
No, I'm sorry. A person who says Romo is an average QB has no legitimacy to tell anyone what they can or can not see. Still waiting for your support of Romo being avg. You ask Boys to support their statements. I guess I should be flattered you hold higher standards for Cowboy fans than you hold for yourself.
SkinsNumberOne
December-8th-2007, 11:43 PM
a hint? :laugh:
usually he's neutral, but this year he's been showing his poke colors at times
gotta disagree with you here.
I think it's natural that a broadcaster will tend to favor a 1-loss team a bit in contests. I still see him as being unbiased, or at the very least trying to appear unbiased (which is good enough for me).
I will say, I think Darryl Johnston is both biased AND terrible at his job. Aikman is one of the current best at his job, and I definitely do not dislike having him for our games. I don't buy into "announcer = bad luck" talk either. I mean, Aikman would be doing the games where we play a really good team, so maybe that has something to do with why we haven't won when he has broadcast... he is on the #1 Fox team after all.
VCDefectors
December-9th-2007, 12:25 AM
Gee TR1, visiting Boys boards? I didn't think you cared what Cowboys fans think or say? :laugh: You must have a 3-dimensional mouth to talk out of all the differnet sides of it.
Do you mean like this?
http://www.colossusblog.com/mt/archives/images/sock_puppet_theatre.jpg
No, I'm sorry. A person who says Romo is an average QB has no legitimacy to tell anyone what they can or can not see. Still waiting for your support of Romo being avg. You ask Boys to support their statements. I guess I should be flattered you hold higher standards for Cowboy fans than you hold for yourself.
He's waiting for Cowboys journalists to write some new articles that fit close enough to what he wants to believe. Maybe he can recirculate some of those articles he was so busy posting in the preseason.
Enter Apotheosis
December-9th-2007, 01:38 AM
Okay, so fellas, tell me how you can be objective about a guy when you're tutoring him?
Easy. If you're tutoring someone you'll likely have a vested interest in their success but at the same time you'll have a unique insight into their weaknesses and strengths. That added insight is the basis of your analysis and can be used to strike a healthy balance between critique and praise of the player's performance.
It's essentially objectivity at its finest, provided that you don't openly root for the guy.
Jumbo
December-9th-2007, 02:46 AM
You really didn't watch that game did you? Do you realize that the Cowboys were leading late in the third quarter? After that the Cowboys started making some stupid....
My comment is just a reflection on perspective, but going back and reading this thread again, and this post, my being impressed with how Dallas played the Pats has been moderated now that the Eagles played the Pats so tough, and the Ravens missing actually beating them by just a hair.
I've given Dallas due credit all along, though, and take none of that overall nod as #1 in the NFC back. I think a healthy Green Bay with "Good Favre" can still challenge them, and as a dark horse I have Seattle (I know), but it's still Dallas' conference to lose IMO.
VCDefectors
December-9th-2007, 03:18 AM
My comment is just a reflection on perspective, but going back and reading this thread again, and this post, my being impressed with how Dallas played the Pats has been moderated now that the Eagles played the Pats so tough, and the Ravens missing actually beating them by just a hair.
I've given Dallas due credit all along, though, and take none of that overall nod as #1 in the NFC back. I think a healthy Green Bay with "Good Favre" can still challenge them, and as a dark horse I have Seattle (I know), but it's still Dallas' conference to lose IMO.
That's more than a pretty fair assessment, IMO. The one thing that the Cowboys haven't shown is the ability to put games away. And that's usually a sign of a young team. They are going to have to grow up in that respect in order to have a shot at getting back into the SB and a rematch with NE.
SkinsNumberOne
December-9th-2007, 04:59 AM
That's more than a pretty fair assessment, IMO. The one thing that the Cowboys haven't shown is the ability to put games away. And that's usually a sign of a young team. They are going to have to grow up in that respect in order to have a shot at getting back into the SB and a rematch with NE.
Today's game should be interesting.
The Cowboys pass defense may be a bit questionable. Of course, Detroit's pass protection isn't great, so it might be moot (and they are also missing Roy) but that could still mean Detroit puts a few points on the board. Dallas wins because of Detroit's defense - unless the Detroit defense plays above their standard.
Dallas has a good defense, but a good passing team will probably beat them. The X-factor of Detroit is their O-line and their injuries right now, otherwise Detroit would have a decent shot. As it is, they have "a chance" though. The reality is, a team with a defense like Tampa can probably stand up to Dallas a lot better. Tampa's problem right now, of course, is their QB situation.
tr1
December-9th-2007, 06:41 AM
Gee TR1, visiting Boys boards? I didn't think you cared what Cowboys fans think or say? :laugh: You must have a 3-dimensional mouth to talk out of all the differnet sides of it.
I visited Google...which took me over to that thread. Care to comment on the that thread?
No, I'm sorry. A person who says Romo is an average QB has no legitimacy to tell anyone what they can or can not see. Still waiting for your support of Romo being avg. You ask Boys to support their statements. I guess I should be flattered you hold higher standards for Cowboy fans than you hold for yourself.
Romo is an illusion. Put him behind a line that isn't having a combined career year, and you'll see what I mean.
Danny White II.
tr1
December-9th-2007, 06:46 AM
Do you mean like this?
http://www.colossusblog.com/mt/archives/images/sock_puppet_theatre.jpg
He's waiting for Cowboys journalists to write some new articles that fit close enough to what he wants to believe. Maybe he can recirculate some of those articles he was so busy posting in the preseason.
WeOwnYou, please come clean. I'm sure the mods will give you a pass for creativity. :laugh:
VCDefectors
December-9th-2007, 07:42 AM
WeOwnYou, please come clean. I'm sure the mods will give you a pass for creativity. :laugh:
Just for kicks, I did a search on this WeOwnYou person you keep referring to. I'll just say that more search returns were about you accusing other people for being this person than actual posts by anyone going by this name.
But just so you know, I'm not out to cause you any trouble. I'm just playing along with your schtick. It's all good to me. I do hope you find some better material to work with though. Texas? Troy Aikman? Come on, man...you can do better than that!
DWinzit
December-9th-2007, 08:00 AM
Just for kicks, I did a search on this WeOwnYou person you keep referring to. I'll just say that more search returns were about you accusing other people for being this person than actual posts by anyone going by this name.Most of those other posters tr1 was accusing of being We, turned out to be him under other user names.:2cents:
VCDefectors
December-9th-2007, 08:22 AM
Most of those other posters tr1 was accusing of being We, turned out to be him under other user names.:2cents:
Well that's good to know, thanks! I'm not sure why anybody would do that, but then again, I'm still trying to figure out why a 52 year old man acts the way he does.
DWinzit
December-9th-2007, 08:34 AM
Well that's good to know, thanks! I'm not sure why anybody would do that, but then again, I'm still trying to figure out why a 52 year old man acts the way he does.He earned the title Mr. ATN for a reason! Tr1 writes nothing but positives regarding the Redskins and negatives regarding the Cowboys. How can ya hate him for that? :whoknows:
He is one of the reasons so many Cowboy fans (you included) are posting in ATN.:2cents:
tr1
December-9th-2007, 10:35 AM
Just for kicks, I did a search on this WeOwnYou person you keep referring to. I'll just say that more search returns were about you accusing other people for being this person than actual posts by anyone going by this name.
But just so you know, I'm not out to cause you any trouble. I'm just playing along with your schtick. It's all good to me. I do hope you find some better material to work with though. Texas? Troy Aikman? Come on, man...you can do better than that!
Please, put me on ignore.
No more stalking, okay? :laugh:
slogriff
December-9th-2007, 12:03 PM
I visited Google...which took me over to that thread. Care to comment on the that thread?
Thanks again for illustrating you really do care what Cowboy fans think. Since you asked so nicely, I somewhat agree with your statements. Does Aikman or any top-notch game analyst put aside homeristic thoughts to keep their job. Sure. If you are a studio analyst like Emmitt or Irvin you might be able to get away with continuous "overly biased" pro-Cowboy comments. However, it would not go over as well if you are trying to work yourself up & then maintain being a networks #1 game analyst if you are ridiculously biased for one team and bad mouth the various other rivals of that team. All top-notch announcers will check their biases to maintain the quality of their work and by that their job.
Romo is an illusion. Put him behind a line that isn't having a combined career year, and you'll see what I mean.
Danny White II.
I'll be watching. :)
kreitmaster
December-9th-2007, 12:17 PM
HAHA Cowboys cant stop TJ Duckett!!!
mcarey032
December-12th-2007, 12:59 AM
Boy this ranks right up there with that Jimmy Johnson thread about the Cowboys being great and New England being overrated.
mcarey032
December-12th-2007, 01:00 AM
Yeah note to the Cowboys, if you give up 27 points a game in the NFL, you are lucky, not great. Someone will eventually beat them before the year is out and that might very well be the Redskins.
VCDefectors
December-12th-2007, 01:12 AM
Yeah note to the Cowboys, if you give up 27 points a game in the NFL, you are lucky, not great. Someone will eventually beat them before the year is out and that might very well be the Redskins.
If that helps you...
If I were a Redskins fan, I'd be worried about the Giants this week and leave it at that. I'm surprised to see the number of ESers overlooking that game.
But whatever. As far as the upcoming Cowboys-Redskins game goes, the Redskins have already proven that they can hang in a game. But their problem, as it has been all year, they usually end up beating themselves. The Cowboys have played a lot of teams like that this year and have become undaunted by these type of teams. I see no evidence that this year's rematch is going to be any different.
esloan
December-12th-2007, 03:03 AM
If that helps you...
If I were a Redskins fan, I'd be worried about the Giants this week and leave it at that. I'm surprised to see the number of ESers overlooking that game.
But whatever. As far as the upcoming Cowboys-Redskins game goes, the Redskins have already proven that they can hang in a game. But their problem, as it has been all year, they usually end up beating themselves. The Cowboys have played a lot of teams like that this year and have become undaunted by these type of teams. I see no evidence that this year's rematch is going to be any different.
But, but...they have the great Todd Collins at QB now!!!!:doh:
VCDefectors
December-12th-2007, 03:25 AM
But, but...they have the great Todd Collins at QB now!!!!:doh:
Sarcasm noted...;) Let's see how Collins handle the Giants' pass rush. If he can win a game against that, then I would be apt to take that player more seriously. The Bears D just looks terrible IMO.
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