Trade Gilbert?

[abdcskins]

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. But look how well we are playing without him. Is it time to trade him for that dominant down low presence that we so critically need? Butler plays better without him because he gets more shots, and you guys can't say Gilbert doesn't jack up the ball a lot sometimes. Before he went out with the injury I thought he was taking some terrible shots. And he's been doing that, that's his game(which has worked fine so far obviously). I dunno...I just think we should try to get some value for the dude since it is no guarantee that he will re-sign, plus personally I think we are fine without him, if not possibly better. I just think we are better with a pure point guard like Antonio Daniels. I also realize that not too many teams are interested in damaged goods, but it is possible because they would have first dibbs on resigning him. We could probably get, say, Al Thornton and a 1st rounder from the Clippers, or Eddy Curry and Nate Robinson from the Knicks. Maybe I'm crazy. Is it possible? Or is it a stupid idea altogether? What do you guys think?

[909997]

we cant trade gilbert to a crappy team, because he wants to play for a contender.

and why trade gilbert? our coaches, players, city loves him hes the face of the franchise.

and butler doesnt play better without arenas, hes just gotten better. In the offseason he worked hard and when gil gets back hes gonna spread the ball more.

[HEavyJumbo85]

I probably would shy away from trading Gilbert, and I don't think anyone would trade anything for him anyway...Hypothetically speaking, I don't know who in their right mind would trade us a legitimate post presence for an injured player that can opt out after the season is over. I mean who would pay top dollar to use a guy for month?

[909997]

I probably would shy away from trading Gilbert, and I don't think anyone would trade anything for him anyway...Hypothetically speaking, I don't know who in their right mind would trade us a legitimate post presence for an injured player that can opt out after the season is over. I mean who would pay top dollar to use a guy for month?

knicks lolz

[mojobo]

We could probably get, say, Al Thornton and a 1st rounder from the Clippers, or Eddy Curry and Nate Robinson from the Knicks. Maybe I'm crazy. Is it possible? Or is it a stupid idea altogether? What do you guys think?
first of all we should not trade him, and second you think we would only be able to get this in return for him? pretty bad idea to trade somebody who has proven to be a top 5 scorer in this league.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Eddy Curry? Eddy ****ing Curry? And who the **** is Al Thorton? (I know who he is, my question is of the rhetorical nature, meant to imply what the **** has Al Thorton done?) :doh:

I'm done wasting my time with **** like this. You all think what you want. Do what you want. Whatever. I'm going to go to my games and I'm going to watch on TV and I will continue to be dazzled and romanced by a future HOFer. Yeah I said it. And Yeah I meant it. I'll save you a seat. I promise.

Don't bother quoting me. Anyone. I've gone over this too many times in the past. I'm off to WE. Later.

[abdcskins]

^Damn, don't get your panties in a bunch. Sorry to upset you with my hypothetical question on a message board.


Others, those are good points. I'm not sure what we would be able to get in return for him, but I'm just saying if someone offered me a proven down low scorer and a 1st rounder, I'd do it. But like Heavyjumbo said, who would trade for an injured player who can opt out after the season is over? Probably a dumb idea, I just thought I'd throw it out there. I've got his Bullets jersey anyway, don't wanna make that obsolete. Haha, peace.

[WizSkinsO's]

What is "how well" we're playing without Gilbert? We're 9-10. C'mon now. Caron Butler is our best all-around player. Gilbert Arenas is our best scorer and one of the top 10 scorers in the NBA. Both are amazing. Can't we just accept that? Caron is our MVP and I agree with that but you can see without our best scorer out there in Gil we're just good--we can't hang with the great like the Suns. When we have Gil back, this team goes from good to great.

No reason in the world to trade a PG/SG who can score 30 PPG at 25 years old and has been great for the city. He's no Kobe, but he's damn good.

[Sticksboi05]

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. But look how well we are playing without him. Is it time to trade him for that dominant down low presence that we so critically need? Butler plays better without him because he gets more shots, and you guys can't say Gilbert doesn't jack up the ball a lot sometimes. Before he went out with the injury I thought he was taking some terrible shots. And he's been doing that, that's his game(which has worked fine so far obviously). I dunno...I just think we should try to get some value for the dude since it is no guarantee that he will re-sign, plus personally I think we are fine without him, if not possibly better. I just think we are better with a pure point guard like Antonio Daniels. I also realize that not too many teams are interested in damaged goods, but it is possible because they would have first dibbs on resigning him. We could probably get, say, Al Thornton and a 1st rounder from the Clippers, or Eddy Curry and Nate Robinson from the Knicks. Maybe I'm crazy. Is it possible? Or is it a stupid idea altogether? What do you guys think?

How well we are playing? We are 9-10 and have only beat one good team without him...

If we'd move him to where he should be at SG, we'd be in very good shape.

[Obibyn23]

Maybe I'm crazy.


No offence...but you ARE crazy

[Kevin101]

This is thread #1256 on this same topic.

[abdcskins]

Okay, I relent. Bad idea. But if the Suns offered Amare Stoudamire and a 1st rounder, would you do it? Not saying they would, they have no reason to. But that's just an example of what I'm talking about.

[MonkFan8]

Okay, I relent. Bad idea. But if the Suns offered Amare Stoudamire and a 1st rounder, would you do it? Not saying they would, they have no reason to. But that's just an example of what I'm talking about.If it was a completely lopsidded trade like that, sure. But that's never going to happen.

[SantanaClaus89]

I'm sick of this.

No.




NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[.Guy.]

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. But look how well we are playing without him. Is it time to trade him for that dominant down low presence that we so critically need? Butler plays better without him because he gets more shots, and you guys can't say Gilbert doesn't jack up the ball a lot sometimes. Before he went out with the injury I thought he was taking some terrible shots. And he's been doing that, that's his game(which has worked fine so far obviously). I dunno...I just think we should try to get some value for the dude since it is no guarantee that he will re-sign, plus personally I think we are fine without him, if not possibly better. I just think we are better with a pure point guard like Antonio Daniels. I also realize that not too many teams are interested in damaged goods, but it is possible because they would have first dibbs on resigning him. We could probably get, say, Al Thornton and a 1st rounder from the Clippers, or Eddy Curry and Nate Robinson from the Knicks. Maybe I'm crazy. Is it possible? Or is it a stupid idea altogether? What do you guys think?


LAWL!!!

Gilbert Arenas, top 10 superstar for ****ing CURRY AND ROBINSON?

OMG. I mean what can I say? I HOPE you're not serious. That's pathetic...

We were talking about trading Gil + fillers for Kobe and now you're talking about this? WHAT THE ****!!!

LAWL!!

We're doing so well that we're 5-5 w/out Gilbert. Yeah how great. A .500 team. Who wouldn't want that...

[.Guy.]

I apologize for using LAWL.

[clathel]

What was our record before Gil went out. So far, we are better this season without him. CB has stepped up since Gil has been hurt and AJ is flatout leading this team on and off the court. CB is becoming an off/on-court leader as well. Gil hasnt shown leadership this season....just bad shooting and ball-hogging and bringing down our shooting percentages with ill advised passes and shots taken. He may be off his game because of his injury, but if he is the team leader, as so many of you think... then Gil must adjust when he knows that also, as well as do a better job of choosing his shots and getting cleaner passes. He must be a field general not a sniper. He cant do that and he doesnt add alot to this team.

I would rather have AD at point, CB at SG and AJ at SF where he can be just a rebounder and not relied on for low post defense. Then using Blatche at PF and getting a real starting C we would be set for a long time to come. Haywood off the bench ups the strength of our bench and allows OPie to develop at his own pace.

We need some back up help at the 4/5 positions but our bench is very good. Young looks like he could be special and I hated that pick. Mac is great too and DSS is a nice addition to the bench but should never start. DSS is Haywood of the G's. Lotsa talent off the bench but inconsistent as a starter.

VV is developing in Europe and may come over next year which would help our 4/5 slot bench problems but we still need more experienced help there. Next year will be a good year for us to trade away all our picks and get veteran talent since we wont be high enough to get anyone great and we need veteran help anyway. We cant wait to develop another person right now. We have enough youth. Any more and we will start hurting our team.

[LiveStrongSkins]

You have to be delusional to think we are better without 30 points a game and 6 assists. You have to look at this thing two fold. While Gilbert has been hurt we have found out more about our other role players... but how in the hell does that mean we are better without Gilbert?!?! I think this team is downright scary when you think about Gil starting with a bench rotation of Daniels, Young, Songalia, and Blatche coming in and sustaining the energy and not exerting so much pressure on Gil to be the 30 point scorer. The bench doesnt suck like it used to, this highlites Gilbert Arenas's value, it doesnt mean you trade him. You people are so short sighted that I think you say this **** for attention.

[skinsfan07]

we cant trade gilbert to a crappy team, because he wants to play for a contender.

and why trade gilbert? our coaches, players, city loves him hes the face of the franchise.

and butler doesnt play better without arenas, hes just gotten better. In the offseason he worked hard and when gil gets back hes gonna spread the ball more.

agreed.

[joony11]

i for one don't think this as stupid as some of you guys say. but yeah, i think now that the rest of the team has learned to step up their games (esp the bench), we should wait to see what getting Gil back will do for the team before we really think about anything of this nature

[joony11]

oh yeah, and G.A.C.O.L.B., you're one ridiculous mofo

[twenty-eight]

can we cut him? or at least try and buy him out?

[desioreo87]

Trading Gilbert is a mistake. He is a huge asset to the team and you rarely find game winners. Gil just needs to be moved to SG where he would be most effective. Gil could take up the PG roles in clunch moments like MJ used to do for the Bulls but for the most part MJ let the PG be the PG. Gil needs to hand PG duties to someone who is more adept at running an offense. Gil is too immature to lead this team.

[twenty-eight]

I'd trade him for dwight howard

[Winslowalrob]

Eddy Curry? Eddy ****ing Curry? And who the **** is Al Thorton? (I know who he is, my question is of the rhetorical nature, meant to imply what the **** has Al Thorton done?) :doh:

I'm done wasting my time with **** like this. You all think what you want. Do what you want. Whatever. I'm going to go to my games and I'm going to watch on TV and I will continue to be dazzled and romanced by a future HOFer. Yeah I said it. And Yeah I meant it. I'll save you a seat. I promise.

Don't bother quoting me. Anyone. I've gone over this too many times in the past. I'm off to WE. Later.

I'm with this guy. I already posted what it takes to win a championship a long time ago, this time is not built to win a title as it is... but neither are 28 of the 30 teams out there. The only way we could celebrate a title in DC is if we trade for the all the Spurs and their coach. Or if we built a time machine and kidnapped the 95-96 Bulls and forced them to play for us at gunpoint. Outside of that, there is no single player that can turn our fortunes around, we are an entertaining team with a great GM, and short of some ridiculous drafts, moronic GMs, and insane amounts of luck, we are not going anywhere.

[da#1skinsfan]

You have to be delusional to think we are better without 30 points a game and 6 assists. You have to look at this thing two fold. While Gilbert has been hurt we have found out more about our other role players... but how in the hell does that mean we are better without Gilbert?!?! I think this team is downright scary when you think about Gil starting with a bench rotation of Daniels, Young, Songalia, and Blatche coming in and sustaining the energy and not exerting so much pressure on Gil to be the 30 point scorer. The bench doesnt suck like it used to, this highlites Gilbert Arenas's value, it doesnt mean you trade him. You people are so short sighted that I think you say this **** for attention.

*bingo*

[garrett]

everyone on wizardsextreme knows i've always said arenas is overrted.


it would be stupid to re-sign him to a max contract after this season especially coming off that surgically repaired knee

[RedskinsNation]

Im all about keeping Gil...but our style of play has definitly improved. We turn the ball over less, have FAR LESS one&done's, see a lot more passing. I like the way the team has responded. I think Gil could really be BETTER when he comes back. He will jump back in and rather than do it all himself (or try) he knows this team has playmakers and depth. Even when he comes back he wont be 100% so now he can come in and knows the pressure isnt on him. He doesnt have to take 25 shots a game for us to be competitive.

I honestly think you will see a new and improved Gil when he returns.

Like Livestrong said......Blatch is BETTER than last year, Songailia is HEALTHY this year, Young is BETTER than Donnell Taylor (a LOT better), Mason now gets clock and he has IMPROVED...Haywood is playing OUT OF HIS MIND (for being B.Haywood :) ). Butler is a bonafide stud. Jamison is Jamison.

This team is much improved over last year and we still havent seen what Pechorov can do. Im giddy thinking what this team can become with a healthy Gilbert Arenas. He'll get more open looks or he will dish to his teammates who have proved their worth so far. We are 8-5 w/out Gil but whats more impressive is that we do not look outmatched out there even when we lose.