Miami Heat vs Washington Wizards Game Thread

[skinfan2k]

You know its coming. The Heat have just beat the Suns and look forward to a division matchup with your Wizards. Shaq is mad and D-Wade is back to 100%. TNT at 8pm TOMMOROW!!!

[RedskinsNation]

Miami lost to Charlotte twice yet beat the Suns in Phx. NBA...what a game.

Wade always has his best for the Wizards. Shaq seems to play well too.

This would be a good road win if they can pull it off.

[GOSKINS_08]

The heat are starting to play good after they started off ****ty like they seem to do every season.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

The heat are starting to play good after they started off ****ty like they seem to do every season.
They beat the lowly Clippers and pulled one off against Phoenix. Maybe they're starting to play good, maybe not. I thinks not though. I've been chronicling their season over at WE. They are a disaster.

[MonkFan8]

Man you got me all excited, this game isn't even until tomorrow night :P

[DariusCyrus]

Man you got me all excited, this game isn't even until tomorrow night :P

i know man.. i thought he was talking about the game being tonight... damn son

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

LOL I've been sitting in front of the T.V. for the past hour watching some OnDemand History Channel **** waiting for 8 to come around so I could watch this. Thanks Skinsfan2k!!! You're a swell guy!!!

[skinfan2k]

the game is on TNT tommorow!!! i mentioned that didn't I?

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

the game is on TNT tommorow!!! i mentioned that didn't I?
Yeah I think you left out a crucial word there in the OP...what is it...hmmm...oh yeah I know...TOMORROW.

[da#1skinsfan]

mf'r i thought it was tomorrow, saw this thread and went oh i must be wrong. lock it up!

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Well since I can't post over at WE, for the time-being I'm going to continue my new hobby here.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/articles/2007/12/12/pennys_comeback_with_heat_done/

Penny's comeback with Heat done
By Tim Reynolds,
AP Sports Writer
December 12, 2007

MIAMI --Penny Hardaway's comeback attempt with the Miami Heat has ended.

The 36-year-old forward was waived Wednesday, a move that cleared the roster spot Miami needed to sign another former first-round draft pick -- guard Luke Jackson. But the Heat haven't ruled out bringing Hardaway back in some capacity.

"It was a business decision more than anything else," Heat coach Pat Riley said. "We tried to do something last week. We couldn't. But you never know. He may be back. We'll just see what happens over the next month."

Hardaway signed a non-guaranteed contract with Miami this summer after recovering from an array of injuries that kept him off the court for nearly three full seasons. He started eight times this season, but averaged only 3.8 points on 37 percent shooting, and didn't play in any of Miami's past four games.

"It was a tough, tough move," said Riley, whose team is off to a 6-15 start.

Agent Jeff Wechsler said Hardaway was "very, very appreciative of the chance he got" from Riley and Miami owner Micky Arison, and that he intends to keep playing -- somewhere.

"He worked hard all summer, he worked hard through training camp and played well for them," Wechsler said. "He's getting everything back to where he needs to be."

Hardaway has a 15.2 point-per-game average in 704 career regular-season games. He was told of Miami's decision Wednesday morning before practice. He could be claimed off waivers by another team within a 48-hour window, although it's unclear if any other clubs will have interest.

Heat guard Dwyane Wade said he hopes to see Hardaway playing somewhere.

"I don't think he worked this hard for it to be the end," Wade said. "I think he's going to continue to try to play somewhere else. I think Penny will be best on a team that's really winning and have that veteran team where he can come in and help them. It's kind of tough on a team that's struggling like us. We need a lot of things right now."

Hardaway showed flashes of production with Miami: His 6-for-6, 16-point night in New Jersey on Nov. 17 keyed a 91-87 Heat victory.

In the four weeks that have followed, he managed a total of 19 points.

The once-electric guard was a fast-rising star when he entered the NBA for the 1993-94 season. One year later, he and Shaquille O'Neal brought an Eastern Conference championship to Orlando.

But knee problems kept Hardaway to 59 games in 1996-97, then surgery limited him to 19 games the following year. In the years that followed, he's battled plantar fasciitis, more knee surgery, thumb surgery and even more knee surgery.

He worked through all that and earned a shot with Miami. But when the Heat decided it wanted Jackson -- who essentially plays the same position -- it deemed Hardaway expendable.

"If we were 15-6, I wouldn't have made the move," Riley said. "I brought Penny in here knowing that he was going to give us experience, intelligence, basketball IQ, all of those things and some skill to facilitate Dwyane and Shaquille. This is not his fault. It's nothing he didn't do."

So now, Miami will see what kind of offensive boost the 26-year-old Jackson can provide.

Jackson was the 10th overall pick by Cleveland in the 2004 draft, then played only 10 games that year for the Cavaliers. The former Oregon star also has played with the Los Angeles Clippers and Toronto Raptors, plus done stints in the NBDL.

Jackson signed with the Idaho Stampede last week, scored 30 points in his first game with that club, then left the team for his workout with the Heat.

"It's been a tough journey to get here but I feel like I'm better for that," Jackson said. "So hopefully this is my time and there's a spot for me here to contribute."

Good thing they signed Smush Parker. Oh wait...that's right...

http://www.miamiherald.com/594/story/341546.html

PARKER PARTING?

The Heat has not ruled out keeping guard Smush Parker, but the sides are working on potential trades that would satisfy both parties.

The Heat did not practice Tuesday, and there was no indication whether Parker would join the team for Wednesday's workout, its first since returning from a six-game trip. Parker, eligible to be traded as early as Saturday, has not been with the team since his Nov. 27 altercation with a valet attendant.

[BayouBrave86]

Man, this has all the makings of a loss. The Heat are starting to play "well" and we never beat them with Wade and Shaq in the line-up. If we somehow manage to beat them tomorrow night..well, hell I don't know what to say..we'll win our division this year. We NEVER beat the Heat when they are healthy. The refs start calling bs calls in the 4th quarter to make it a tight game if they are down and then they somehow come back and win. They own the Wiz like the Cowboys owned the Skins until recently.

[skinfan2k]

Guys, Orlando is such a joke. dont worry about them. They dont have the personnel for the long haul

[Chachie]

I have no idea why everyone was counting the Heat out for good. Every Shaq team slips and slides a bit early because Shaq doesn't care early. They are still Wade and O'Neal and they will still be on top when it counts.

That said, it will be interesting to see the "new" Brendan Haywood matching up with a somewhat debilitated Shaq O'Neal. The Heat certainly aren't in "full swing" right now so we might get 'em before they truly kick in.

[skinfan2k]

they are struggling really bad at the pg rotation and who to plug in at SF. they lost alot of ammo this offseason(45ppg) at least

[GOSKINS_08]

Are you guys ready for the WIZARDS to INVADE South Beach?!?!?!?! We're gonna be a ROADBLOCK in the heats ROAD TO THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!! lol

Go Wizards!!!!

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

I have no idea why everyone was counting the Heat out for good. Every Shaq team slips and slides a bit early because Shaq doesn't care early. They are still Wade and O'Neal and they will still be on top when it counts.

That said, it will be interesting to see the "new" Brendan Haywood matching up with a somewhat debilitated Shaq O'Neal. The Heat certainly aren't in "full swing" right now so we might get 'em before they truly kick in.
Because it isn't about Shaq not caring this year. Shaq cares. Shaq is the only one who cares. And that is the problem. When WE goes back up go read all the articles I posted about the Heat. Shaq is furious. Shaq goes off every other day. On his teammates, on Riley, on everything and everyone.

The problem is a bunch of things. One, they should've at least resigned Posey. Him and Kapono leaving really hurt them. Then, as Skinfan2k also stated, the PG position for them is just a disaster. The Heat lost this season when Mo Williams shunned them and resigned with the Bucks. Jason Williams is a disaster. Smush Parker, their big FA signing, who was supposed to shore up the 1 spot, isn't even with the team. He assaulted some valet and they sent him home. He's a disaster.

All you really have on that team is an old-man Shaq (whose putting up career low numbers) and a hurting D Wade. The Heat are done.

[argentina_redskins]

Big game for us tonight. If we win I think we break away from .500 for the first time this season and sink the Heat ship even lower, so hopefully we get a win in Miami, something that has avoided us in past years!

[skinfan2k]

Go Gizards?

[garrett]

why the hell is wizardsextreme still down!!!!!!!!

[GOSKINS_08]

Go Gizards?

I thought the gift got banned?:silly:

[SantanaClaus89]

I need WE! WTF is going on

[SantanaClaus89]

Haywood with the fadeaway lol

[GOSKINS_08]

Haywood > Shaq

lol

[DoGood28]

WTH. Williams touched that ball TWICE then let it bounce out of bounds and they gave it to MIA.

[GOSKINS_08]

WTH. Williams touched that ball TWICE then let it bounce out of bounds and they gave it to MIA.

lol, I saw that too..I thought Williams touched it.

[DoGood28]

lol, I saw that too..I thought Williams touched it.

I have a feeling this is going to be one of those nights.

[GOSKINS_08]

Stevenson is on fire!!!!

Stevenson > Wade

:D

[Sticksboi05]

You can't seeee Steeevenson.

[method man]

Steeeeeezy

[Chachie]

I don't even recognize these young Heat players. I've been up on Wizards roster but I'm have to get up to speed on NBA rosters for 2007-2008.

[Sticksboi05]

Buzzer Beater!!!

[Sticksboi05]

Excellent first quarter!

28-16.

[GOSKINS_08]

We lead 28-16 after the 1st quarter!! I'll take it.

[BayouBrave86]

Up 35-20, but I won't be calm about this game unless we are winning by 10+ witha minute to go against these guys haha.

[SByers26]

I've read and heard how bad the Heat are but watchin it live it's like you can see that this team has takin a couple steps back.

[skinfan2k]

Dont sleep on the Bulls and Heat. the heat will make moves before the trade deadlne

[GOSKINS_08]

Lets not get to comfortable..The heat are on a mini run right now.

[wantarace17]

until that clock says 00:00 and the wizards have more points do not talk any smack

[SByers26]

Trades before the season starts is fine but I think it wil be alittle too late now.

[BayouBrave86]

Dont sleep on the Bulls and Heat. the heat will make moves before the trade deadlne
Who are you going to trade that anyone wants?

[Chachie]

Blatche is sick on the ofeensive boards.

[GOSKINS_08]

Who are you going to trade that anyone wants?

They can trade some of their young players for a guy over 40.:laugh:

[SByers26]

Yeah I would like to know that too.

[skinfan2k]

Who are you going to trade that anyone wants?

Jason williams last year on the contract, ricky davis last year on the contract, smush parker 2.2 milion,

[kreitmaster]

With or without Arenas, this team is fun to watch. Other than Songaila missing outside jumpers like its his job, this team looks good and can really make a run with Arenas back.

[Chachie]

until that clock says 00:00 and the wizards have more points do not talk any smack


This should be posted at the beginning of every game thread.

[SByers26]

I like DSong but he is overmatched alot on defense regardless of who it is.

[skinfan2k]

I really like hearing Reggie talk. TNT is does well with their nba coverage

[SByers26]

You think he might coach one day?

[BayouBrave86]

Ugh, I hate the Heat.

[HEavyJumbo85]

Who did Nick Young piss off? You gotta give him some minutes Eddie.

[BayouBrave86]

Geez, Stevenson is insane from downtown right now..UNREAL.

[kreitmaster]

Geez, Stevenson is insane from downtown right now..UNREAL.

Yeah, he's a difference maker. When he's on, team generally does well. When he's off, hurts the team. Ouch, hope Daniels is ok.

[SByers26]

WOW!!! Yeah DWade you did'nt foul him.

[PCRoughrider]

It's next to impossible for this team to keep and expand a lead! :mad:

[Sticksboi05]

Wow, DeShawn is HOT.

[skinfan2k]

kevan harlan and gus johnson best 2 announcers on tv

[Sticksboi05]

59-49. I'll take it but we need to put this away in the 3rd.

[PCRoughrider]

That 2nd quarter was terrible for us!!!

[abdcskins]

Great first half, let's keep it going and get our first win in Miami since 2003.


I love the way Antonio Daniels runs the point, we are much more patient on the offense. I reiterate, we play better team basketball without Gilbert. Deshawn is indeed on fire, I'm not sure why he sat for so long in the 2nd. I like the energy Blatche brings off the bench. Let's do this.

[PCRoughrider]

We need to come out in the 3rd with a big run.

[Chachie]

Miami will want to run too. Let's get back to the D! The Heat can beat us on talent alone but they can be rattled with defense because they aren't in sync for the season yet.

[MonkFan8]

Gotta finish this one out. I hope they put Shaq back in the game. Much less offensive variation.

[skinfan2k]

are you guys watching this on tnt or comcast

[Chachie]

Reggie just said, "excape goat."

[PCRoughrider]

Get the lead back to 17 and then expand it!

[SByers26]

TNT, for me

[HEavyJumbo85]

are you guys watching this on tnt or comcast


Pretty sure there's a college game on comcast tonight

[Sticksboi05]

Brendan pass the ball!!! You can't go over Shaq.

[HEavyJumbo85]

coming out nice and cold...beautiful

[PCRoughrider]

That entire series of plays was a MESS!!!

We're not playing smart at all!

[HEavyJumbo85]

Luckily we can still make dunks...knock on wood

[abdcskins]

I don't like how we've started this half. Dammit. Talk after the game. Oooh, nice dunk Caron!

[mad4comp]

Nick young ever gonna play again? We need a spark...he can give us a spark, but hes on the bench...

:/

[Sticksboi05]

Great first half, let's keep it going and get our first win in Miami since 2003.


I love the way Antonio Daniels runs the point, we are much more patient on the offense. I reiterate, we play better team basketball without Gilbert. Deshawn is indeed on fire, I'm not sure why he sat for so long in the 2nd. I like the energy Blatche brings off the bench. Let's do this.

That wouldn't be true if we just put Arenas at SG where he should be instead of PG. He'd get open shots for him and he'd shoot in the upper 40's likely.

[PCRoughrider]

Expand the lead!

[mad4comp]

Looks like the refs are planning to give this game to Fade and the Cheat...

[mboyd784]

Sloppy game so far, but I like our chances tonight...Steezy on fire!!

[skinfan2k]

Looks like the refs are planning to give this game to Fade and the Cheat...

right and they are 6-15 for that reason

[mboyd784]

Man, Shaq is just about done.

[SByers26]

The Heat don't foul anyone. It's like they call it when they have no choice. Great steal Caron!!!

[MonkFan8]

That layup by Buter was INSANE!!!!

[mboyd784]

Caron Butler is my hero.

[mad4comp]

right and they are 6-15 for that reason

Doesnt mean the refs didn't try...your team is still bad, with or without the refs..

[skinfan2k]

This game shows you how old and limited they are

[Sticksboi05]

Outstanding run.

71-56 Wizards.

[HEavyJumbo85]

You can't say this without smiling, "We got Caron Butler for Kwame Brown" :laugh:

[skinfan2k]

Doesnt mean the refs didn't try...your team is still bad, with or without the refs..

no **** sherlock!:doh:

[HEavyJumbo85]

Haywood is a beast

[MonkFan8]

Remind me again why Haywood isn't on the all-star ballot?

[Sticksboi05]

Brendan playing like this will take us places.

[mad4comp]

Caron is just....unhuman... Yes thats right...i had to make up a word...

[mboyd784]

Butler has taken this game over!

[Sticksboi05]

Omg!!!! Caronnnn Butler And 1!!!

[skinfan2k]

Haslem was a serviceable PF when Shaq was actually good. But thats no longer the case

[SByers26]

Making excuses there Reggie.

[SByers26]

No it's not that there playing bad it's because there tired. They don't look tired to me.

[skinfan2k]

No it's not that there playing bad it's because there tired. They don't look tired to me.

im not making excuses but even Sir Charles said it. Hardest game after a long road trip is the first at home.

But they are also old and tired

[PCRoughrider]

Keep the pressure on!!! Expand the lead!

[WorldBFree76]

BUtler is BEASTING!

[mad4comp]

Foul on Dwade there on Caron? Oh wait...I forgot we're playing miami...

[Sticksboi05]

Ok, feed Caron in the 4th and put this AWAY NOW.

[skinfan2k]

Foul on Dwade there on Caron? Oh wait...I forgot we're playing miami...


u mean push out? :doh:

[mad4comp]

u mean push out? :doh:

Yea on wade... :/

[skinfan2k]

Yea on wade... :/


force outs are not fouls

[mad4comp]

force outs are not fouls

I dont know what play you were watching, but Im talking about that last second shot by Caron, where Dfades hands were all over Caron..

[MonkFan8]

They'll never call Wade for traveling when he blatantly cups the ball driving to the basket.

[Chachie]

Here come the Heat.

[Sticksboi05]

Get Andray out, he's getting beat every time.

[PCRoughrider]

We're in trouble again... :doh:

[skinfan2k]

They'll never call Wade for traveling when he blatantly cups the ball driving to the basket.

What superstar doesn't get the calls? :laugh:

[Sticksboi05]

OMG, put Haywood back in the game!!!!!!

[mboyd784]

Wade is gonna get a LOT of calls down the stretch.

[HEavyJumbo85]

Really need to get either Young or McGuire in the game...Mason can't cover Wade or Quinn.

[skinfan2k]

You guys need to bring back in haywood for size against Zo. i bet we dont see shaq for a while

[Chachie]

It's a game of runs. Let's tighten it down and finish.

[skinfan2k]

Chachie, whoever has that next 8-1 or 10-2 run wins this game

[skinsfanevan]

its ok im trying to see another huge run

[mojobo]

sweet great no call on wade!

[mad4comp]

No foul???

[GOSKINS_08]

Nice steal and layup Darius!!

But he's hurt

[mboyd784]

Jamison is building a house.

[MonkFan8]

What a joke...that's gonna keep Darius out a while I think.

[mad4comp]

Jamison is building a house.

How many bricks does that make for tonight?

[Chachie]

Win or lose tonight, it feels good to have a center that's not outsized by Alonzo Mourning.

[GOSKINS_08]

What a block by Jamison!!

And dunk by Haywood!!!!!!

[mad4comp]

ROFL @ Haywood trying to handle the ball...

[mboyd784]

Stevenson's game is flowing.

[Chachie]

ROFL @ Haywood trying to handle the ball...



:laugh:

Big Brenda with the SLAAAAM.

[HEavyJumbo85]

Mason has to make these 3's...he's wide the **** open. I thought he was a shooter.

[HEavyJumbo85]

Shaq elbowed the **** out of Brendan

[skinfan2k]

mason is shooting alot

[mad4comp]

Mason has to make these 3's...he's wide the **** open. I thought he was a shooter.

Which begs the question, where exactly is Nick Young?

[skinfan2k]

Nick Young is the Brandon Lloyd of the wizards

[mad4comp]

Wow @ D Steezy..

[mboyd784]

Nick Young is the Brandon Lloyd of the wizards


Pardon me?

[skinfan2k]

game over congrats wizards

[MonkFan8]

Someone might want to step out on Quinn when he brings it up 1v4

[mad4comp]

So why exactly is RMJ still out there? For the love of God get him out of there...

[GOSKINS_08]

Mad, I know you've bashed Stevenson plenty of times, you gonna give him some credit?

Just like skinfan2k use to say Caron wasn't a good fit for our offense, and Caron's on offense is a jab step.

[HEavyJumbo85]

Where is Nick Young...He's not going to play at all tonight, he barely played last night. Mason isn't playing well enough to be just taking Nick's minutes outright. Eddie can do this sometimes, but I've really got to question the decision to signifigcantly decrease Young's minutes like this out of the blue. We really need this kid to develop and keeping him on the bench for no reason is just stunting his growth.

[skinfan2k]

i have no idea how shaq plans to play 2 more years

[PCRoughrider]

game over congrats wizards

What game are you watching?

[skinfan2k]

Just like skinfan2k use to say Caron wasn't a good fit for our offense, and Caron's on offense is a jab step.

with gilbert, caron is not allowed to play freely, and he has shown me alot this season

[mad4comp]

Mad, I know you've bashed Stevenson plenty of times, you gonna give him some credit?


one word....Consistency.. When he gets some, I'll give him props..

[HEavyJumbo85]

We've had the same damn lineup in the game for the entire 2nd half

[skinfan2k]

What game are you watching?

no way Miami wins down 9 with 3 to go

[mad4comp]

How about calling Dwade for a Offensive foul for using his left hand to push off?

[MonkFan8]

Nice finger roll there for Caron.

[mad4comp]

LOL the look on Zo's face is priceless...

[mboyd784]

Another day, another double-digit victory.

[GOSKINS_08]

Haywood with the dunk to finish it off!!

[GOSKINS_08]

Actually Jamison finishes it off!!

[MonkFan8]

Good win. Heat look about finished barring a miracle.

[PCRoughrider]

Another game, the defense giving up less than 100 points! :applause:

[HEavyJumbo85]

Good win, but why no Nick Young? I just don't get it

[Sticksboi05]

12-10.

Think people since going 0-5, we've won 12 of our last 17. Keep it up Wiz!

[mboyd784]

BTW, 9-5 without Arenas and the 2nd game in a row with 5 guys in double figures. I hope Gil is paying close, close attention to this style of WINNING basketball.

[ACW]

Wow, for the 1st time in four years we beat Miami in Miami
-and they had Shaq and Wade
-and we were missing Gil

:laugh: :applause:

All three frontcourt members had double-doubles; all 5 starters had double figures in scoring. :)

[Kevin101]

D-Whistle with little help from his teammates (the refs) tonight.

[skinfan2k]

you guys are winning the division. orlando will fade just watch

[Sticksboi05]

BTW, 9-5 without Arenas and the 2nd game in a row with 5 guys in double figures. I hope Gil is paying close, close attention to this style of WINNING basketball.

Yes, and I hope EDDIE puts Arenas at SHOOTING GUARD when he returns instead of making him be the scorer and passer at the same time. We'd be a force. That and if Haywood continues his strong season.

[GOSKINS_08]

You know, since we started winning, we haven't seen methodman, and the others who were saying our season was over..LOL

Great win tonight!!!!

[Sticksboi05]

you guys are winning the division. orlando will fade just watch


I don't know. Dwight Howard is playing MVP ball right now.

[TheREALJBird]

Nice game and great win, this team is gonna stir up some trouble in the east:)

[skinfan2k]

I don't know. Dwight Howard is playing MVP ball right now.

just watch. They started great last year too, Turklogu and Nelso wont be playing this well later. Dwight will slow down too

[BayouBrave86]

Definitely the best game of the season in terms of our past. It was SO nice to see us not fold in the closing minutes against these guys, minus Arenas no less. Excellent win!

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Told you all the Heat suck.

And hey, as soon as I learn more about the status of WE I'll let you all know. I'll try to holler at Admin sometime tonight or tomorrow and see what's what.

[Chachie]

Milestone game for this team. First win in Miami in 9 tries. Without Gilbert, we beat Wade and Shaq. Caron was amazing, Haywood is a beast, Andray had flashes of the future vs. A-list big men. I was impressed with the D and the rebounding. All-around great job.

My MVPs tonight go to D-Steez and Brenda. AJ gets honorable mention for being an inspirational floor leader.


Skinfan2k- :)

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc173/Chalzbunz/Ace2.jpg

[mojobo]

12-10 :cheers:

Anyone else annoyed that the announcers are acting like we have a bunch of scrubs playing ignoring the fact that we have 2 all-stars still playing?

[skinfan2k]

hey at least im not gift who leaves

[ACW]

hey at least im not gift who leavesI don't think he left, I think he was banned :laugh:

[GOSKINS_08]

hey at least im not gift who leaves

Yup, thats true..You deserve some credit for not being a ***** that leaves after he talks trash.:laugh:

[abdcskins]

Great win! As soon as I turned off my laptop we went on a 14-0 run after that sloppy beginning to the second half. I'm never typing while watching the game again, haha. Anyway, I like how we never folded, anytime they made a run we responded. Haywood is a rebounding beast. Butler took over when he needed to, and Stevenson shot the lights out. If we could just execute 80-100% we would've won that game by 20+. But hey cats are allowed to have off nights(Mason in particular). Good win, let's keep it going.

[GOSKINS_08]

And everybody should stop calling Brendan, Brenda..He's earned having his name spelled right.

[Diablo23]

Great win!!

woo woo feels good.

[Chachie]

hey at least im not gift who leaves




Gift cannot hold a candle to you, Bro. He's deplorable. And I understand he won't be back.


Edit- I'd also NEVER post in a game thread that he started.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

And everybody should stop calling Brendan, Brenda..He's earned having his name spelled right.
Indeed. He has definitely been all man this season. And this is coming from one of his biggest haters.

[r2k64]

Great win. Got the monkey off the Wizards' back for now. Props to Stevenson especially for stepping up big time and hitting some tough shots. Caron and Antawn really turned it up in the 2nd half, especially Caron in the 3rd quarter. Great job by Haywood tonight. He seemed to get great position under the basket and really gave Miami fits in the rebounding department.

[Chachie]

And everybody should stop calling Brendan, Brenda..He's earned having his name spelled right.


It's a term of endearment now. I'm afraid it stuck. :)

[Warhead36]

Great team win. Even though the Heat are awful this year it's still good for morale to beat a team that's owned you of late on the road without your best player.

[PCRoughrider]

And everybody should stop calling Brendan, Brenda..He's earned having his name spelled right.

He'll ALWAYS be Brenda to me! :laugh:

...even when he's an All-Star!!!

[Skins11]

When's the last time we beat the Heat either at home or away? Before today, I mean. :)

I'm thinking before Dwayne Wade's rookie year... no?

[GOSKINS_08]

When's the last time we beat the Heat either at home or away? Before today, I mean. :)

I'm thinking before Dwayne Wade's rookie year... no?

We beat the heat at home last season I believe.

I think this was the last time we beat the heat in Miami in 3 or 4 years.

[XxSpearheadxX]

Nah, SkinFan is a stand up dude, and I agree with him on the Magic.

Those that don't know, Rashard Lewis is an alstar for about 20-30 games a year. Except for that one great year they had in Seattle.

Either way, Shaq's still a fag.

[conkev12]

We beat the heat at home last season I believe.

I think this was the last time we beat the heat in Miami in 3 or 4 years.

Neither Shaq nor D. Whistle played in that game, so it really wasn't the same.

[method man]

You know, since we started winning, we haven't seen methodman, and the others who were saying our season was over..LOL

Great win tonight!!!!

i just posted over in page 2 and my prediction is that they will lose maybe 2 games the rest of the month. the schedule is just really easy so far but dont get fooled.

[RedskinsNation]

We should handle Sacramento on Saturday and move to 13-10. Our schedule is favorable....I like us to pad to the record a bit.

Good Road win last night.

[da#1skinsfan]

We beat the heat at home last season I believe.

I think this was the last time we beat the heat in Miami in 3 or 4 years.

I think that was our first win in Miami since '03.

[Winslowalrob]

Wow, our first win in Miami since God got that chick pregnant ;).

A note to the Wiz faithful: while I have not watched enough of our games to give a quality assessment of the team, all this talk of the Wiz playing more team basketball is the biggest load of... feces I have ever heard. 3/4 of the this game we ran the mythical "Princeton offense"; shoot an outside trey with 20 seconds left on the shot clock after three passes, little penetration, and rely on individual talent to carry us through. Basically the injuries have forced EJ to play our good guys rather than some radical new style of play. If AD was dropping 10 dimes a game or dishing out sweet alley-oops to Brendan and Bulletproof, then I would agree that we are a new team with AD at the point. Basically all I see is better team defense, no offensive system, and our players just stepping it up. I think the best thing that could have happened to this team is Etan not playing, our bench guys getting more PT, and the fact that Caron worked his ass off over the summer. Maybe AD playing better D might have given us the boost we need or something, but until I see our players making the extra pass, drawing double teams and kicking it out to the open man, and not relying on players to beat their opponents one on one, I am chalking our wins to luck and Brendan getting more burn more so than "New visionary offense without Gibby screwing it up".

PS, don't say "fa@" that stuff ain't cool.

[pjfootballer]

Anyone else besides me think Shaq should retire? He's a shell of his former self.

[da#1skinsfan]

I kind of agree. From what Im seeing I dont see any wild new offense either. I do see more ball movement, but I agree we are getting better play inside and thats making a big difference. The rebounding seems to be overall a hell of a lot better although I havent looked at the stats to verify that, just eyeballing these games it seems we are getting more offensive boards and our time of possession is higher.