PS3 Online

[RammsteinSkins]

im thinking about getting it and i would like to get a second opinion from other ES'ers who have it and is it any good and what features does it have?



ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION:is there any way to do an roster update on NFl 2K5 (PS2 game)on a pS3....i doubt it but i thought id give it a shot because i would rather do that than create JC

[Spaceman Spiff]

It's free. That's all you need to know.

Just got it a couple weeks ago and been playing Call of Duty 4 online like it's my job. It's awesome.

[Samuels]

I just bought a 80gig on saturday. I got motorstorm with it i like the game and my kids love it. I bought call of duty 4 which is a sick game but i beat it already so i'm gonna go trade it in. I also got fightnight rd3 and madden 08. That madden is a completly different game then on ps2. They really po'ed me with this 1 all the controls are different and took away the passing cone. They also won't allow you to click r2 before the play to double check your routes and visulize which stinks.

I like the system though seems to have great graphics..

I do have some questions for others though.

I bought the component video cable for the ps3 thinking it would give me a better picture then what comes with the ps3 but it was black and white. Then i could get it to work where my hd cable box plugs into my tv but then i had no sound.

Could i run a hdmi cable from my playstation 3 to the hdmi cable hookup on my hd cable box??

i don't have a hdmi hookup on my hd tv just the hd cable box..

[Spaceman Spiff]

^^^^^ Don't trade in call of duty 4. The best part about the game is online.

[skinfan2k]

i have not beaten cod 4 on the impossible level yet.

[Samuels]

^^^^^ Don't trade in call of duty 4. The best part about the game is online.


I tried it online and thought it sucked. Little kids voices coming thru my tv set, it was crazy. I'm use to socom online and even on ps2 it crushes call of duty online.. I can't wait for Socom to come out on PS3..

And i beat Call of duty 4 on the 2nd hardest setting in 4 days but i played it quite a bit, up late.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I tried it online and thought it sucked. Little kids voices coming thru my tv set, it was crazy. I'm use to socom online and even on ps2 it crushes call of duty online.. I can't wait for Socom to come out on PS3..

And i beat Call of duty 4 on the 2nd hardest setting in 4 days but i played it quite a bit, up late.

Thats why you have to get a headset and tell them to shut the **** up. :D

I don't have one yet, but I was playing online today and this guy was making fun of this kid, it was hilarious. Even better, he was killing the kid left and right and the kid was getting flustered.

I gotta think you're in the minority about COD4 online....what games did you try to play? Free for all is where it's at.

[LiveStrongSkins]

I'm gonna go pick up call of duty 4 tommorrow. I've been playing Drake's fortune and Assassins Creed non stop for the last two days. Two great games.

[Samuels]

I'm gonna go pick up call of duty 4 tommorrow. I've been playing Drake's fortune and Assassins Creed non stop for the last two days. Two great games.

I heard very mixed reviews on assasins creed they say it looks great but the gameplay is alittle iffy thats why i did'nt get it. I heard Kane and Lynch is just awful has well.. I believe i might buy drakes fortune i downloaded the demo from the ps3 store and the 1st level got me hooked. I just hate buying games like COD 4 and drakes fortune because i'll beat them and lose interest. Atleast madden i can play online constantly and i can't wait for socom on ps3.. COD 4 is a great game on 1 player and i'm gonna give online a few more shots but i might go trade it in on drakes fortune.

[Major Harris]

spiff, i know it's free, but is the online system for ps3 comparable to xbox live? i think xbox live is great. i've never seen what ps3 online interface (??) is like.

[LiveStrongSkins]

I feel like a dinosaur fellas. I always have played my friends in madden and played games as a single player but have never ventured online. If you all could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.

[Spaceman Spiff]

spiff, i know it's free, but is the online system for ps3 comparable to xbox live? i think xbox live is great. i've never seen what ps3 online interface (??) is like.

Never seen xbox live, either. Built in wifi is nice, though.

[Major Harris]

Never seen xbox live, either. Built in wifi is nice, though.
you had an xbox and never used xbox live? you missed out.

wii has built in wifi, as well. great system, btw. just got it for christmas. loads of fun.

[SLASH83]

[QUOTE=Samuels]I tried it online and thought it sucked. Little kids voices coming thru my tv set, it was crazy. I'm use to socom online and even on ps2 it crushes call of duty online.. I can't wait for Socom to come out on PS3..

im with you i cant wait for socom for ps3.

[Spaceman Spiff]

you had an xbox and never used xbox live? you missed out.

wii has built in wifi, as well. great system, btw. just got it for christmas. loads of fun.

Didn't want to pay for it. IMO, it should be free.

Hated xbox 360, got the red ring of death twice. got it back the second time and took it straight to gamestop to help pay for ps3.

[Major Harris]

Didn't want to pay for it. IMO, it should be free.

Hated xbox 360, got the red ring of death twice. got it back the second time and took it straight to gamestop to help pay for ps3.

there's a lot to it, no way it would be free.

i'm really curious as to what online play consists of on the ps3 for it to be free.

[Spaceman Spiff]

there's a lot to it, no way it would be free.

i'm really curious as to what online play consists of on the ps3 for it to be free.

Tell me about 360, we'll compare notes.

[Samuels]

I just got done playing COD 4 online playing free for all its like respawn on socom. I did enjoy it much more then earlier when i tried i played for a good bit. Its cool you can sneak up behind people and cut them. I also saw some guys flying helicopters shooting people not sure how you do that. My main beef right now is the mic. In socom you push O to key the mic to talk and the voices come thru your ear piece when someone else is talking. In COD4 I can hear echos thru my tv its not clear at all except for the moron steadly dropping N bombs thru the game, i have no idea how to talk myself or to get thier voices to sound right.


And playstation online has always been great i play Madden,NBA 2K,NASCAR and Socom is the **** online you got thousands of people on and the game is a masterpiece online, i wish they would release confortation already.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I just got done playing COD 4 online playing free for all its like respawn on socom. I did enjoy it much more then earlier when i tried i played for a good bit. Its cool you can sneak up behind people and cut them. I also saw some guys flying helicopters shooting people not sure how you do that. My main beef right now is the mic. In socom you push O to key the mic to talk and the voices come thru your ear piece when someone else is talking. In COD4 I can hear echos thru my tv its not clear at all except for the moron steadly dropping N bombs thru the game, i have no idea how to talk myself or to get thier voices to sound right.


And playstation online has always been great i play Madden,NBA 2K,NASCAR and Socom is the **** online you got thousands of people on and the game is a masterpiece online, i wish they would release confortation already.


You get the choppers by getting 7 kills in a row.

3 kills in a row gets you radar, 5 kills in a row gets you an airstrike, 7 kills in a row gets you a chopper.

Yeah, there are some idiots online, I heard someone dropping N bombs earlier. I've also heard some really funny stuff though :)

You need a headset to talk on COD4.

[skinsfan07]

I got Kane and Lynch for my 360 and couple of days ago and it's an average game. I picked it over COD4 like an idiot but still have the receipt so once I beat Kane and Lynch, I'll return it to bestbuy and get COD4.

[PokerPacker]

I got Kane and Lynch for my 360 and couple of days ago and it's an average game. I picked it over COD4 like an idiot but still have the receipt so once I beat Kane and Lynch, I'll return it to bestbuy and get COD4.
that's the game that the gamespot editor got fired for giving a poor review on. apparently Kane and Lynch was paying $$$ for advertisement and didn't appreciate the honest review.

[Enter Apotheosis]

spiff, i know it's free, but is the online system for ps3 comparable to xbox live? i think xbox live is great. i've never seen what ps3 online interface (??) is like.

You get what you pay for. That having been said, the PS3 online interface varies largely from game to game but the basis of it (friends list, chat functions, etc.) is done simply and done pretty well. What you dish out money for with Live is complete integration of all your games into one pretty comprehensive service.

Live is seemlessly integrated and more consistent from game to game while the PS3 can be inconsistent (EA's Madden servers SUCK but most other games are set up pretty well). Personally, I prefer not continuously shelling out cash to Microsoft but a lot of people think its all worth it.

[Samuels]

You get the choppers by getting 7 kills in a row.

3 kills in a row gets you radar, 5 kills in a row gets you an airstrike, 7 kills in a row gets you a chopper.

Yeah, there are some idiots online, I heard someone dropping N bombs earlier. I've also heard some really funny stuff though :)

You need a headset to talk on COD4.

I have my headset hooked up. Do i need some sorta special headset? does it have to be plugged up in a certain port??

I don't hear nothing thru my mic and can't figure out how to talk. All i can hear is mumbled voices thru my tv set. I got the 3 kills in a row and 5 kills in a row but not sure what it gave me or how to use it. I also can't pick different guns like the m4a1 are you only able to play with the 1 gun listed in each section??

[Spaceman Spiff]

I have my headset hooked up. Do i need some sorta special headset? does it have to be plugged up in a certain port??

I don't hear nothing thru my mic and can't figure out how to talk. All i can hear is mumbled voices thru my tv set. I got the 3 kills in a row and 5 kills in a row but not sure what it gave me or how to use it. I also can't pick different guns like the m4a1 are you only able to play with the 1 gun listed in each section??

Depends on what online game you're playing. I play free for all deathmatch, every man for himself. To use raider or call in air strike/chopper you hit the right key on the d-pad.

Not sure what to do about the headset as I don't own one...will probably get one soon, though.

[mjah]

I find it hard to imagine that any online multiplayer experience justifies an additional cash outlay -- much less one that repeats periodically ad infinitum. You bought the system; you bought the game. Your payments should be over, unless you're buying legitimate extensions of the game. Multiplayer doesn't fall into that category. It's idiotic to be forced to pay more for it.

Online multiplayer has existed for well over a decade. The fact that it's on your Xbox doesn't make it special. They might as well charge a monthly subscription fee for firmware updates.* It's an insult to the customer.

With that said, my PS3 broke today. It does everything except spin up discs -- making it impossible to watch DVD/Blu-ray movies or play non-demo games. Which, you know, I might want to do occasionally.

It's an amazing testament to the PS3's versatility that even with this hardware failure, it still retains about 50% of its useful functionality. That's pretty impressive. And Sony is replacing it for free, making the inconvenience slightly less infuriating.

But sadly, this will be the generation of gaming systems that makes it "normal" to expect your console gaming system to experience epidemic hardware failures right out of the box. At least the NES took a couple of years of normal use to develop its hardware problems...





*(By the way, does Microsoft charge for access to direct-downloads of firmware updates? That would be hilarious.)

[skinfan2k]

xbox live for me $27 dollars for 13 months.

[Major Harris]

Tell me about 360, we'll compare notes.

online gaming community.

shows your friends online activity: tells you if they're online and what game they are playing or what game they last played if they're offline. makes it very easy to get games with your friends organized.

ability to send text messages via xbox dashboard.

ability to send voice mail via xbox dashboard.

accumulation of gamer points for accomplishments.

free game-demo downloads.

xbox live arcade, old school games downloaded for almost nothing.

lots of stuff i haven't even messed with yet.

[Major Harris]

*(By the way, does Microsoft charge for access to direct-downloads of firmware updates? That would be hilarious.)
no they don't.

as far as paying for it, there is so much to it, it's really an extra service. 4 bucks a month.

[Disco Dave]

I have my headset hooked up. Do i need some sorta special headset? does it have to be plugged up in a certain port??

I don't hear nothing thru my mic and can't figure out how to talk. All i can hear is mumbled voices thru my tv set. I got the 3 kills in a row and 5 kills in a row but not sure what it gave me or how to use it. I also can't pick different guns like the m4a1 are you only able to play with the 1 gun listed in each section??

What you need to do is go to settings on the XMB. Then scroll down to accessory setting and select audio device settings. Next, check to make sure that your input and output device is set up to your headset. If your output isn't set to your headset the sound will come out of your tv speakers instead of your headset. I think that you can also do this while you are in chat while not playing a game. You can hit me up if you need help by sending me a chat invite to my PS3 username BIGOAK.

[Disco Dave]

Coming to the PS3 in 2008 is HOME. Home isn't a game but a virtual world that you can meet people, watch movies, listen to music, and play games. Here is a 2 part video of what home is all about.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UCWYG2syuhI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=I8ore7INF4Q&feature=related

EDIT: home is also free.

[Disco Dave]

one last thing is that you can also video chat with your PS3. It's kinda fun if you have friends that live on the other side of the country and you don't get to see them very often. It's also free.

[Reic]

I was hoping for a PS3 for x-mas just to play on home and to play Little Big World.

No such luck :(.

I picked up COD4 for my 360 the other day and it is incredible, the last two nights though the ****ing game keeps telling me I need an active internet connection to play online, while I am connected to xbox live. When it does work, I sit in the lobby for 30 minutes waiting for it to match me up with players, but it never does.

Good thing I have not beat campaign mode yet, and I have yet to even open BioShock ;)

[mjah]

After reading the list of offerings, I still don't understand why it would be a pay service. Particularly if they're just charging something like $4 a month.

It's a small amount of money, but the insult is in the binary decision to charge at all -- not the amount you pay.

:whoknows:

[Spaceman Spiff]

online gaming community.

shows your friends online activity: tells you if they're online and what game they are playing or what game they last played if they're offline. makes it very easy to get games with your friends organized.

ability to send text messages via xbox dashboard.

ability to send voice mail via xbox dashboard.

accumulation of gamer points for accomplishments.

free game-demo downloads.

xbox live arcade, old school games downloaded for almost nothing.

lots of stuff i haven't even messed with yet.

I believe it has all that. I know I've scored some free demo downloads already. I don't think it has the old school games though, but I could be wrong. I think I saw some on there but I'm not sure how extensive it is.

[Disco Dave]

Bill Gates likes to fleece and release. Then repeat.

[Titaw]

I have yet to purchase one of these systems due to the fact that I really don't know which one to buy. They both have their pros and cons, but I can't decide.

[Major Harris]

After reading the list of offerings, I still don't understand why it would be a pay service. Particularly if they're just charging something like $4 a month.

It's a small amount of money, but the insult is in the binary decision to charge at all -- not the amount you pay.

:whoknows:
i don't know, we've always paid for video games, even before the webs. online game hosting is an extra service, imo. and like it's been mentioned, live is so convenient, so seamless. i've got no clue what the ps3 online experience is like.

[skinfan13]

get it, I've heard rumors that microsoft and sony are teaming up to allow Xbox live and PS3 online to allow cross playing. imagine the possibilities.

[Disco Dave]

get it, I've heard rumors that microsoft and sony are teaming up to allow Xbox live and PS3 online to allow cross playing. imagine the possibilities.

It'll never happen.

[DariusCyrus]

here is what you get w/ PS3 Online:

+ Friends list
- Displays what games your friends are currently playing
- Displays in game when you receive a message
- Shows a list of "players met", from any game you've played.. and shows which game you've met them on
- Send/Receive messages

+ Video/Voice Chat
- You can have 5 or more people video/voice chat at the same time
- You can show pictures from the PS3 HDD while chatting

+ Playstation Store
- Free download of Game demos
- Free d/l of videos (that Shakira concert was niiiiiiceeeee)
- Free d/l of PS3 themes/background pictures
- Old school games from PS1 and PS2 for $2 - $4
- Downloadable Content (DLC).. expansion packs, etc..
- There is also full featured games that you can download which are exclusively made for download from the PLaystation Network.. they're like $5 to $10

+ Home
- Online community where you have your own virtual place
- Watch videos, listen to music..
- You can visit your friend's virtual place and watch the videos they got on their place..
- You can customize your place with posters/furnitures/electronics(virtual)
- You can display videos/pictures from your PS3's HDD and place them in the room where you have the flatscreen TV setup and display photos for the poster placeholders....

you know i'll be decking my place w/ Redskins videos and pics.. :notworthy


thats all i know so far..

[Enter Apotheosis]

accumulation of gamer points for accomplishments.

Thats pretty much the only thing the PS3 doesn't have but individual games can and often do follow their own points systems.

[Reic]

After reading the list of offerings, I still don't understand why it would be a pay service. Particularly if they're just charging something like $4 a month.

It's a small amount of money, but the insult is in the binary decision to charge at all -- not the amount you pay.

:whoknows:

Ever play MMORPGs?

I was shelling out 160+ a year for that one game, just to play online, then you had expansion packs and content packs every 6 or so months.

Now I shell out 50 bucks a year for unlimited game play for as many games as I want.

I'll take it.

[skinfan2k]

if you are paying $50 for live, youre an idiot quite honestly. so many websites including ebay have them for $27-30

[mjah]

Ever play MMORPGs?

I was shelling out 160+ a year for that one game, just to play online, then you had expansion packs and content packs every 6 or so months.

Now I shell out 50 bucks a year for unlimited game play for as many games as I want.

I'll take it.
Well, if you're coming from that previous experience, then of course it looks better. Kind of like taking one bath per day in a tub full of diarrhea instead of two, IMO.

I'm coming at it from the other direction: I have never had to pay a single shiny copper Lincoln for any online experience, ever. And plenty of gaming companies have made plenty of money by setting up FREE online experiences that are in some ways BETTER than, say, the latest Halo's online offerings.

Ultimately it's just a matter of personal taste. Is it worth it to pay for something that can be had for free? My answer is no; others obviously disagree.

But if online services all started to cost money, then I'd be pissed at the critical mass of gamers who volunteered to pay for things they didn't have to.

For now, some will pay and some will not, and hopefully it will stay that way -- but this kind of equilibrium is never stable. Ultimately it will go one way or another, which may suck utterly for folks who remember what it was like when you didn't have to pay monthly rent -- however minor, this time around -- just to use a set of game features you've already paid for.

I still have yet to discover why online experiences should require an upcharge, since for a decade and a half (plus) we've seen that business models involving free online multiplayer are plenty profitable. The ship has already sailed.

But, anyway...