Crowd Noise...Really? (Merged)

[Jethrodsp]

Seriously, Seahawk fans...let's talk about this.

All week all I've heard is how loud your crowd is gonna be and how much it's going to affect the Redskins. Guess what, I don't give a damn about crowd noise and I'm pretty sure my favorite team doesn't either. Let's say the volume of noise from your speake...I mean fans forces one false start or even two. Do you really think that's gonna make up for the fact that the Redskins defense is going to beat the piss out of your offense? Do you realize that in 2005 when faced with the prospects of running on our physical defense, Shawn Alexander decided to sit out the game instead?

Remember Shawn Springs? There is not one corner in the league I would take over him this season...not one. Not even your precious Marcus Trufant. Matter of fact, I think Trufant will get beat on a double move this weekend. Before he even know Santana has turned deep, the ball will be on it's way and the best Trufant will be able to hope for is to chase Santana down from behind.

How's your pass rush going to help you when Clinton Portis and our offensive line is cramming the ball down their throats? Besides that, did you know that we just faced the Giants and handled their Pro-Bowl defensive ends with an undrafted rookie manning the right tackle spot? The Skins will move the ball.

Look, you guys have a pretty good team, and I mean that. They are pretty and they are good. The Redskins are rugged, battle tested, and oblivious to any kind of adversity coming from the toughest division in the NFC while playing the toughest schedule in the NFC. I mean come on, you won the West? The Patriots took their weak division and rode it to a 16-0 season. The Seahawks rode their weak division to...one more win than the Redskins?

So yeah, wave that 12th man flag as much as you can on Saturday because our 12th man says you won't be able to wave it anymore after that. And I know you are tired of hearing about the Redskins and their love for Sean Taylor. Deon Grant says he doesn't care about the memory of Sean Taylor and how it is making the Redskins tick this season but I assure you, the only reason he doesn't care is that he hasn't seen the fire burning first hand. He doesn't understand the kind of motivation having the opportunity to knock the #1 seed Cowboys off their pedestal by beating them twice in a row is.

Sorry Seattle, but this weekend you are merely a bump in the road to a game that has been destined to come since November 27th. By the fourth quarter Saturday, there is only one noise you will hear coming from football fans:

We Want Dallas!
We Want Dallas!

Hail Skins!!
-Jethro
:point2sky

[HAWKSONTOP]

Santana Moss and the rest of your receivers suck compared to our recieving core. Santana Moss on a double move? Who did he make that move on last week? Oh yeah, some 5th string guy nobody has heard of. BUT, Marcus Trufant is better then SHawn Springs, enough said.


WE WANT GREEN BAY!

[Jethrodsp]

Santana Moss and the rest of your receivers suck compared to our recieving core. Santana Moss on a double move? Who did he make that move on last week? Oh yeah, some 5th string guy nobody has heard of. BUT, Marcus Trufant is better then SHawn Springs, enough said.


WE WANT GREEN BAY!

That was just a warm-up.

And yes, Shawn Springs is the best CB in the NFC right now.

[gibbsfan2018]

the skins will shut them up by the 2nd quarter!!!

[HAWKSONTOP]

tell me your complete idea of the game, what's gonna happen? List all the reasons except Sean Taylor why you guys have the edge in thsi game.

[TheTakeover]

1. Your runningback is completely washed up.
2. Your quarterback started going bald at the age of 20.

[XLegit]

blah blah blah this is the 10th different thread on our fans...stop whining if you want your offense on the field with a libray-esque mode, tell em to win some games and EARN homefield and not sneak into the playoffs

[HAWKSONTOP]

1. Your quarterback has never played a playoff game
2. our quarterbacks way way way way better then yours.

[md20j]

Ok:

Dallas
New York
Philadelphia
Minnesota
Chicago

heard of these teams? These are "tough guy" teams that play in the NFC... 2 in the NFC North and 3 in the NFC East.

We beat each of 'em.

Though the toughest of those teams, the ones that play in the toughest division, also beat us, too. We split with those guys.

Here are some more reasons why:

San Fran
St. Louis
Arizona

Those are, um, y'alls divisional rivals. Nice. Real nice.

Anyway, those are my reasons. Have a good one! Our 12th Man will be watching... and waiting!

JB

[arkowi]

tell em to win some games and EARN homefield and not sneak into the playoffs

play in the weakest division in the NFC?

[Jethrodsp]

tell me your complete idea of the game, what's gonna happen? List all the reasons except Sean Taylor why you guys have the edge in thsi game.

Our edge is not on paper.

Never was.

[HLD]

Ok:

Dallas
New York
Philadelphia
Minnesota
Chicago

heard of these teams? These are "tough guy" teams that play in the NFC... 2 in the NFC North and 3 in the NFC East.

We played 40% of those teams. One at home and one on the road. Beat them both...

NEXT!

[arkowi]

i am getting really sick of the seattle PR patrol in every thread on this board.

[Ty Garcia]

Santana Moss and the rest of your receivers suck compared to our recieving core. Santana Moss on a double move? Who did he make that move on last week? Oh yeah, some 5th string guy nobody has heard of. BUT, Marcus Trufant is better then SHawn Springs, enough said.


WE WANT GREEN BAY!

Who is your receiver core I do not even know one receiver from your team!!!!!That goes to show how good they are. And also all you hear about your team is the 12th man, what does that say about your team when your best player is the noise!!!!! WOW that is what I want opposing players to know when they come to your house is the noise!! Not that they are going to get hit hard and play some physical style football, no they are going to have an earache instead. Good going Seattle have you guys ever won anything up there?

[fish]

Santana Moss and the rest of your receivers suck compared to our recieving core. Santana Moss on a double move? Who did he make that move on last week? Oh yeah, some 5th string guy nobody has heard of. BUT, Marcus Trufant is better then SHawn Springs, enough said.


WE WANT GREEN BAY!

Actually, it's "corp" as in a group of folks - Marines ring a bell? NOT core as in "the middle of..."

I thought you greeny hippies were supposed to be smart. ;)

[HLD]

Who is your receiver core I do not even know one receiver from your team!!!!!That goes to show how good they are. And also all you hear about your team is the 12th man, what does that say about your team when your best player is the noise!!!!! WOW that is what I want opposing players to know when they come to your house is the noise!! Not that they are going to get hit hard and play some physical style football, no they are going to have an earache instead. Good going Seattle have you guys ever won anything up there?

No that goes to show your lack of knowledge of the NFL.

We have one of the best and deepest WR corps in the league. Let's start off with Deion Branch, Bobby Engram, Nate Burrleson, and DJ Hackett. If you don't know them now, you will after Saturday!

[21choop21]

Being a college athlete I've played infront of 70k screaming fans. I dont care how loud they are the better team will come out on top on Saturday afternoon

[HLD]

Actually, it's "corp" as in a group of folks - Marines ring a bell? NOT core as in "the middle of..."

I thought you greeny hippies were supposed to be smart. ;)

Actually it's CORPS if you are going to argue that...at least know what you are arguing. I thought you people in DC were supposed to know how to spell.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

Game 1
20-6 (W)
Buccaneers at Seahawks
Sunday, September 9

You beat the bucs to open the season, good for you. Wow. I'm impressed.


Game 2
23-20 (L)
Seahawks at Cardinals
Sunday, September 16
1:00PM • FOX

You lost to the Cardinals. Oops.

Game 3
24-21 (W)
Bengals at Seahawks
Sunday, September 23
1:00PM • CBS

Ooooh you beat the Mighty Bengals who finished a mediocre 7-9

Game 4
23-3 (W)
Seahawks at 49ers
Sunday, September 30
1:00PM • FOX

The 49ers.... what can you say about that team. I mean they're really tough and someday they may actually be able to compete in the strongest division in football; The NFC Weak

Game 5
21-0 (L)
Seahawks at Steelers
Sunday, October 7
10:00AM • FOX

Oh lookie here, you played a playoff caliber team and check out the results. 21 to Zippy. Zero. Not even a field goal.

Game 6
28-17 (L)
Saints at Seahawks
Sunday, October 14
5:00PM • NBC

The Saints. In October when they hadn't even won but what, one game by then?

Game 7
33-6 (W)
Rams at Seahawks
Sunday, October 21
1:00PM • FOX

The sacrificial Lambs. Good game. I'm sure all but 10 people saw this barnburner


BYE
October 28
And you kicked it's ass, with your 12th man. How many false starts?


Game 8
33-30 (L)
Seahawks at Browns
Sunday, November 4
1:00PM • FOX

The brownies.


Game 9
24-0 (W)
49ers at Seahawks
Monday, November 12
5:30PM • ESPN
The 9ers... again. I'm impressed. <yawn>


Game 10
30-23 (W)
Bears at Seahawks
Sunday, November 18
1:15PM* • FOX

You beat the Bears!! Congrats...


Game 11
24-19 (W)
Seahawks at Rams
Sunday, November 25
10:00AM* • FOX

Yawn, the lambs...again.


Game 12
28-24 (W)
Seahawks at Eagles
Sunday, December 2
10:00AM* • FOX

Hey good game, you beat the iggles.


Game 13
42-21 (W)
Cardinals at Seahawks
Sunday, December 9
1:00PM* • FOX
The Cardinals... again... that's 6 games in your division.


Game 14
13-10 (L)
Seahawks at Panthers
Sunday, December 16
10:00AM* • FOX
You lost to the Panthers? Vinny Testi was the QB, right?


Game 15
27-6 (W)
Ravens at Seahawks
Sunday, December 23
1:00PM* • CBS
Good win here....


Game 16
44-41 (L)
Seahawks at Falcons
Sunday, December 30
10:00AM* • FOX
We didn't play our starters... waaaaaaaaaaaah

Thank god, that was boring.

[SpringfieldSkins]

No that goes to show your lack of knowledge of the NFL.

We have one of the best and deepest WR corps in the league. Let's start off with Deion Branch, Bobby Engram, Nate Burrleson, and DJ Hackett. If you don't know them now, you will after Saturday!

...and the only one that I would take on my team is DJ Hackett. Deon Branch is too small (much like our recievers), Engram has a tendancy to drop the ball, and Burleson is only middle of the road. Crowd noise won't make a difference, believe that. What will make a difference is heart and desire. Seattle is strongly lacking both in my opinion.

[HLD]

Engram has a tendancy to drop the ball,

I'm sorry you must have him confused with Koren Robinson (now on the Packers) or Darrell Jackson (now on the 49ers). Engram is probably the most consistent receiver and Matt's favorite target.

[DieselPwr44]

List all the reasons except Sean Taylor why you guys have the edge in thsi game.
1. Your run game is below average. With the Tip Toe Bandit(Alexander) and Morris in the backfield and no Hutch, that will be shutdown(Skins #4 in the league Rush D).

Don't believe me? Ask the Vikings Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor, who are a better combo(and that's with Hutch) than Tip Toe and Morris.

2. This in turn leaves you one dimensional on offense. When all you can do is pass, then this defense will pin it's ears back and get after Hasslehoff..I mean Hasslebeck. ;)

3. Some say that our OT's will be unable to handle your DE's. Umeniyora and Strahan(a better pass rush duo than Tapp and Kerney) and Ware,Canty and Spears didn't seem to bother us that much. And I'd take them over Tapp,Kerney and Peterson as far as pass rushers go.

4. Clinton Portis is the hottest RB in the NFC at this time. Do you drop eight in the box to stop him,leaving the middle open for Chris Cooley or run blitz the Skins leaving Moss in one on one coverage?

That's four...

Now I'm not saying there's no way we're losing this game. We very well could. This team has been through alot and sooner or later it could catch up to us.
Just don't insinuate that we don't stand a chance of winning. We do have weapons that are capable of taking a win up there in Qwest. :)

Just seems to me that lately, despite our run to the playoffs, no one seems to think we can go to Seattle and win.

Most reasons given: Crowd noise and the plane ride to Seattle.

Seriously now. Who do the pundits think they're kidding here?? :doh:

[DieselPwr44]

Game 14
13-10 (L)
Seahawks at Panthers
Sunday, December 16
10:00AM* • FOX
You lost to the Panthers? Vinny Testi was the QB, right?

Wrong. Matt Moore, a street FA rookie cut by Dallas, made his first career start vs Seattle. :)

[Jethrodsp]

Wrong. Matt Moore, a street FA rookie cut by Dallas, made his first career start vs Seattle. :)

And Jaworski's boy.

Seriously, Jaws was all over this kid during the draft.

[nace14]

No that goes to show your lack of knowledge of the NFL.

We have one of the best and deepest WR corps in the league. Let's start off with Deion Branch, Bobby Engram, Nate Burrleson, and DJ Hackett. If you don't know them now, you will after Saturday!

are you really bragging about your WRs? bobby engram has had a good year, but he also might break his 35 year old hip when landry lays him out.
if you are going to come to this board and start bragging about your team, then at least have the understanding that your offense is good because you have the second best qb in the conference. none of those receivers are anything special with out hasselback. the fact that i know more about your team and it's chemistry is just another example of how ignorant you people are out there...DJ Hackett...Please!

[XLegit]

Santana Bust vs Truefant= Tru locks him down
Lofa Making life misrable for Cooley= guarantee
Julian Peterson/Patrick Kerney in Todd face all day= its a lock

[FromTheUtoDC]

OK let's be honest here. HAVING LOUD FANS DOESNT MAKE YOU GOOD FANS - by far - at all. The only reason your stadium is so loud is because of the way it was designed. So dont give yourself too much credit. Just ask John Clayton: " On the open end of the stadium are two features that promote crowd noise. An area called the Hawks Nest sits in the end zone. Because they are bleachers, the Hawks Nest seats are constructed of metal..... The noise is amplified off the metal. If fans stomp their feet, it gets louder." Also, because of space limitations in that area of the city you have a tighter stadium then most as well as roof construction designed to cover most seats and therefore more sound is contained in that tighter space.
Now with that said it is obvious that the stadium will be tough to play in with the "fan assisted noise" but we seemed to play well against the Giants a few weeks ago and everyone knows they have a tough loud crowd.
PS why are all you Hawks such fairweather/negative fans? Geez check out the first Seahawks blog I came upon: http://blogs.king5.com/seahawks/archives/2007/12/nfc_playoff_wat.html#comments

But thats a debate for another day....

[SpringfieldSkins]

I'm sorry you must have him confused with Koren Robinson (now on the Packers) or Darrell Jackson (now on the 49ers). Engram is probably the most consistent receiver and Matt's favorite target.

Now Darrell Jackson, he was good. I would be worried about him. Him and Hasselbeck had a great chemestry. I wish you guys never got rid of him (and he probably does too).

[HLD]

Now Darrell Jackson, he was good. I would be worried about him. Him and Hasselbeck had a great chemestry. I wish you guys never got rid of him (and he probably does too).


hahaha you are joking right? That cat couldn't catch a cold...

[Ty Garcia]

No that goes to show your lack of knowledge of the NFL.

We have one of the best and deepest WR corps in the league. Let's start off with Deion Branch, Bobby Engram, Nate Burrleson, and DJ Hackett. If you don't know them now, you will after Saturday!

Wow I took your word for the best WR Corps in the league so i went to NFL.com and I was looking forward on looking for some stats for that so called WR corps and you will be excited to what I found. That you have one receiver rank 13 that is great and did not find anything else after 50. We had three in the top 50 and we are not even a passing team we are a running team. But I am confused doesnt a receiving corps mean that you would have at least have spread the ball around and have 3 or 4 guys in the top 50. And our receivers such as Moss did not play for 3 games and was 32 and Randle EL did not play 2 or 3 games and he was 46th. And our TE was 37th and he is a TE. So all this tells me is that you guys throw to one guy!!! We are really scared of this one guy and that noise you are talking about!!!

[HLD]

are you really bragging about your WRs? bobby engram has had a good year, but he also might break his 35 year old hip when landry lays him out.
if you are going to come to this board and start bragging about your team, then at least have the understanding that your offense is good because you have the second best qb in the conference. none of those receivers are anything special with out hasselback. the fact that i know more about your team and it's chemistry is just another example of how ignorant you people are out there...DJ Hackett...Please!

Dude, go up and read where this started. It started because one of your REDSKINS fans said that he has never heard of any of our receivers. I was pointing out that there are guys he should have known, if he was paying attention.

Any WR can be made or broke because they don't have a good QB. Thats just a stupid statement.

[Jethrodsp]

hahaha you are joking right? That cat couldn't catch a cold...

How soon you forget, it was Darrel Jackson that opened the scoring against the Redskins in the 2005 playoff game.

And yeah, he was your best WR.

[HLD]

If you dug deeper you would find out that the only two that have been healthy the whole season were Engram and Burrleson. Hackett and Branch have been out half the season, but don't worry -- they're back. Pollard was out for 6 games as well. He's our TE if you didn't know...Anyone you want to double cover, there will be another receiver open.

Another time that stats don't tell the entire story.

[HLD]

How soon you forget, it was Darrel Jackson that opened the scoring against the Redskins in the 2005 playoff game.

And yeah, he was your best WR.

He was good, but he rarely had his head on straight which made him drop a lot of balls.

[SKINS FAN #56]

tell me your complete idea of the game, what's gonna happen? List all the reasons except Sean Taylor why you guys have the edge in thsi game.

Don't even bring up #21, I heard enough BS on your boards..

[Ty Garcia]

If you dug deeper you would find out that the only two that have been healthy the whole season were Engram and Burrleson. Hackett and Branch have been out half the season, but don't worry -- they're back. Pollard was out for 6 games as well. He's our TE if you didn't know...Anyone you want to double cover, there will be another receiver open.

Another time that stats don't tell the entire story.

You are right about the fact that stats do not tell the entire story here is another stat that i found on the web:

Seattle played the easiest schedule in the league according to average DVOA of all 16 opponents. Washington played the fourth-hardest schedule and the hardest slate of any team to make the playoffs.

And you guys still managed to win only 10 games and we played the fourth hardest schedule and won 9.

[portisMVP]

Seattle fans are the worst, not as far as quality of trash talk goes, or even the nature of it. They are miserable, overweight, loser fans who legit have never won a godda** thing in the history of their existence.

I've never met a bigger bunch of whiners. I cannot wait for Saturday. The Redskins will destroy the Seahawks and the 12th Man. I'm so sick of that.

By the way Seahawks, way to RIP OFF Texas A&M. They started that whole thing!

So you're unoriginal, too. I can't believe you have to depend on the fans SO MUCH. Must say alot about your team.

[SKINS FAN #56]

So you're unoriginal, too. I can't believe you have to depend on the fans SO MUCH. Must say alot about your team.

Boy if this were in D.C., we would've chewed them up and spit 'em right out.

[illone]

What a great thread idea only to get trashed by the fassyboy seachicken fans.

:rolleyes:

[HLD]

Seattle fans are the worst, not as far as quality of trash talk goes, or even the nature of it. They are miserable, overweight, loser fans who legit have never won a godda** thing in the history of their existence.

I've never met a bigger bunch of whiners. I cannot wait for Saturday. The Redskins will destroy the Seahawks and the 12th Man. I'm so sick of that.

By the way Seahawks, way to RIP OFF Texas A&M. They started that whole thing!

So you're unoriginal, too. I can't believe you have to depend on the fans SO MUCH. Must say alot about your team.

I have heard more whining and crying from DC fans on this forum in the last 2 days than I have ever heard from Seattle fans. Go back to your shanty.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

If the Seahawks get a lead, crowd noise in Seattle is without a doubt a factor. It is one of the loudest stadiums in the league. The Redskins have to jump on the Hawks early to eliminate the fans from being a factor.

[#21Taylor4Ever]

Santana Moss and the rest of your receivers suck compared to our recieving core. Santana Moss on a double move? Who did he make that move on last week? Oh yeah, some 5th string guy nobody has heard of. BUT, Marcus Trufant is better then SHawn Springs, enough said.


WE WANT GREEN BAY!

And he said this with a straight face. LOL!

You cannot be serious with Branch, Burleson, Engram, and Hackett. Hahaha!

Marcus Trufant's a good CB, but I think you're getting a little carried away saying he's better then Springs.

[portisMVP]

I have heard more whining and crying from DC fans on this forum in the last 2 days than I have ever heard from Seattle fans. Go back to your shanty.

I actually live in a million dollar home but that's cool.

Get your flannel back on, take your monthly shower, drink an overpriced Starbuck, have an earthquake and a monsoon, go back to SeahawksHuddle.com where you can slurp each other there. Your posts are weak, unoriginal at best, and it must speak alot about your life if you are living on ExtremeSkins and getting gangbusted every minute.

Typical Seaqueers fan. No Championships, No History, No Fun.

[#21Taylor4Ever]

I have heard more whining and crying from DC fans on this forum in the last 2 days than I have ever heard from Seattle fans. Go back to your shanty.

You have the league's biggest crybaby in Alexander. You sure you havent heard more crying in WA then the real Washington?

[portisMVP]

By the way.

Shawn Springs = THE Ohio State University.
Marcus Foofant= Washington State University.

They've been Cougin' It for many years. Wiki "Cougin' It" and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[Siven]

tell me your complete idea of the game, what's gonna happen? List all the reasons except Sean Taylor why you guys have the edge in thsi game.

We'll stifle the pitiful ground game that you have, turn you completely one dimensional, and start bringing the pressure.

You guys will go down.

We have faced some strong defenses and responded well.

[Jethrodsp]

In case Seapigeon fans don't know, this is the REAL 12th man:


http://aggietraditions.tamu.edu/12thman.shtml

[portisMVP]

In case Seapigeon fans don't know, this is the REAL 12th man:


http://aggietraditions.tamu.edu/12thman.shtml



THANK YOU!!!

[DixieFlatline]

If you dug deeper you would find out that the only two that have been healthy the whole season were Engram and Burrleson. Hackett and Branch have been out half the season, but don't worry -- they're back. Pollard was out for 6 games as well. He's our TE if you didn't know...Anyone you want to double cover, there will be another receiver open.

Another time that stats don't tell the entire story.

I don't think you have bad receivers, but get your facts a little straighter.

Hacket missed 10 games
Branch missed 5 games
Pollard missed 3 games

[DixieFlatline]

']If the Seahawks get a lead, crowd noise in Seattle is without a doubt a factor. It is one of the loudest stadiums in the league. The Redskins have to jump on the Hawks early to eliminate the fans from being a factor.

Definitely agree. We have to do the same as we did in Minnesota.

[kevinklein]

blah blah blah this is the 10th different thread on our fans...stop whining if you want your offense on the field with a libray-esque mode, tell em to win some games and EARN homefield and not sneak into the playoffs

Winning 4 games a row, and getting into the playoffs outright, not with a tiebreaker, is hardly 'sneaking in', you fool.

[The Top Cat]

Who is your receiver core I do not even know one receiver from your team!!!!!That goes to show how good they are. ?

If you actually have to ask, then you really have no idea who the Seahawks really are. Alas, it speaks volumes of your inability to objectively speak to their collective talent.

The fact is however...1 through 5, they are VERY solid. Cooley is really the only reciever on the Skins roster that is vastly superior to his counterpart in my view. Moss is a stud, but Seattle also has a few.

Branch (who may not play) is a former superbowl MVP. I suggest to you that speaks to both his ability and his potential performance is a big game. His injury makes him a question mark however.

Engram. The consumate possesion guy. Great hands and decent speed 94 catched this year for 1143 yards. Better cover him on 3rd down like a glove.

Burleson If he gets the ball in the open, look out. And don't kick to him either.

DJ Hackett. Been hurt a lot this year, but he's a big strong and tall deep threat. Hasselbeck loves the guy.

Pollard (TE) Solid blocker and reciever. Long in the tooth but solid. Not a deep threat.

[The Top Cat]

In case Seapigeon fans don't know,

Careful dude. We know where you park.

http://www.parentsbehavingbadly.com/images/car.jpg

[ravenson]

another thing we should not over look, Qwest field is about what 67, 000 for seating, yeah I bet they can be loud, We've played in front of 90,000 fans how many time's this year, I'd have to look it up but I think we're used to playing with noise.
Good luck to your 12th man

[HLD]

Maybe you should read some of the quotes from your own players. Good luck with that.

[portisMVP]

Maybe you should read some of the quotes from your own players. Good luck with that.


Seahawks homers depend on this 12th Man so much, THAT speaks volumes about what kind of team you have. I can't wait for you HLD, Top Cat, even Talon to GTFO after Saturday, of course if you show up for your serving of humble pie before CHICKENING your way out!

[HLD]

Your tune will change after the Hawks stop your politically incorrect name.

[portisMVP]

Your tune will change after the Hawks stop your politically incorrect name.

Wow that's original!! You'll lose no worries.

[rdsknbill]

If you actually have to ask, then you really have no idea who the Seahawks really are. Alas, it speaks volumes of your inability to objectively speak to their collective talent.

The fact is however...1 through 5, they are VERY solid. Cooley is really the only reciever on the Skins roster that is vastly superior to his counterpart in my view. Moss is a stud, but Seattle also has a few.

Branch (who may not play) is a former superbowl MVP. I suggest to you that speaks to both his ability and his potential performance is a big game. His injury makes him a question mark however.

Engram. The consumate possesion guy. Great hands and decent speed 94 catched this year for 1143 yards. Better cover him on 3rd down like a glove.

Burleson If he gets the ball in the open, look out. And don't kick to him either.

DJ Hackett. Been hurt a lot this year, but he's a big strong and tall deep threat. Hasselbeck loves the guy.

Pollard (TE) Solid blocker and reciever. Long in the tooth but solid. Not a deep threat.

Branch. Shouldn't play
Engram, and yes I am a PSU fan, will NOT (or should not) go over the middle against our safeties.

DJ Who?

Pollard.. um yea. how many teams has he played for? Oh, I forgot! That powerhouse Detroit Lions thought that he was so awesome that they cut his @$$???????

Wow Topcat. Go back to the (NET NATION)

[HLD]

Sorry. Branch is playing

[Dance04]

Your tune will change after the Hawks stop your politically incorrect name.

HLD, you have contributed quite a bit to this board in the last couple days, most of it insightful.

however, this little tidbit is not only un original and over played, but it's bordering on trolling.

you seem to be better then that

[The Top Cat]

Seahawks homers depend on this 12th Man so much, THAT speaks volumes about what kind of team you have. I can't wait for you HLD, Top Cat, even Talon to GTFO after Saturday, of course if you show up for your serving of humble pie before CHICKENING your way out!

I suggest to you that I have yet to talk smack here. That includes my previous visits two years ago. And yes I came here AFTER the game and still didn't talk smack. I congratulated the Skins on a great year. Which either way Saturday I will do AGAIN.

Honestly, I have to ask...Have some of you must ever have met a decent fan from another team?

[HLD]

HLD, you have contributed quite a bit to this board in the last couple days, most of it insightful.

however, this little tidbit is not only un original and over played, but it's bordering on trolling.

you seem to be better then that

Thanks Dance, I try. That wasn't meant for everyone, just the one or two that want to punch when I haven't done anything to provoke it. Just a little jab, didn't meant to hit a sore spot.

[Dance04]

If you actually have to ask, then you really have no idea who the Seahawks really are. Alas, it speaks volumes of your inability to objectively speak to their collective talent.

The fact is however...1 through 5, they are VERY solid. Cooley is really the only reciever on the Skins roster that is vastly superior to his counterpart in my view. Moss is a stud, but Seattle also has a few.

Branch (who may not play) is a former superbowl MVP. I suggest to you that speaks to both his ability and his potential performance is a big game. His injury makes him a question mark however.

Engram. The consumate possesion guy. Great hands and decent speed 94 catched this year for 1143 yards. Better cover him on 3rd down like a glove.

Burleson If he gets the ball in the open, look out. And don't kick to him either.

DJ Hackett. Been hurt a lot this year, but he's a big strong and tall deep threat. Hasselbeck loves the guy.

Pollard (TE) Solid blocker and reciever. Long in the tooth but solid. Not a deep threat.

Branch: Proven he can show up in the biggest of games. What was it? 10 catches? however, even you have to admit he has been a huge disapointment so far, and is not the same receiver he was on the pats.

Engram: has had a career year. 94 catches is a hell of a lot. No matter how little I think of him, he does have great chemistry with Hasselbeck this year. You are right, we need to cover him like a glove. If not, T.O.P will kill us.

Burleson: We have done a fantastic job on kickoffs and punt returns. I highly doubt he breaks one off against us. Also, no one has gotten wide open enough to make a play VS us the past 4 games. Doubtful Burleson does anything at all

Hackett: uuummm yeah

Pollard: Doughty shut down Witten. This will be a easy task for him.

[Dance04]

Thanks Dance, I try. That wasn't meant for everyone, just the one or two that want to punch when I haven't done anything to provoke it. Just a little jab, didn't meant to hit a sore spot.

no problem. Just wanted to make you aware that some of us do not see you as a troll, so don't start down that path :)

[skinfan13]

tell me your complete idea of the game, what's gonna happen? List all the reasons except Sean Taylor why you guys have the edge in thsi game. you REALLY want to go there? REALLY?

ok here goes:

-You've lost to teams with a combined record of 46-50, the redskins have lost to teams with a combined record of 70-56 or close to that. our loses are much harder than yours.
-you get 6 free wins from a piss-poor division. your record against non-division teams? a pitiful 4-6
-your so-called sack machine defense got most of their sacks against teams playing back-up QB's
-you're a division champ of the WORST division in football with a record of only 10-6. thats not something to be proud of
-you're strength of schedule is close to nill, ours is close to unberable
-we're riding a 4 game win streak with a quarterback with a rating over 106.4, you're riding a 2 out of the last three losing streak after having lost to atlanta with your starting defence giving up 44 points to one of the most mediocre offenses in the NFL
-our 12th ranked rush attack has exploded in the last couple of games, your 12th ranked run defence has played the against (and lost to) some of the worst rushing teams in the NFL.
-at present the skins are playing better than their record says, at present the seawaks are hardly playing at playoff level.
-last but not least, you have beaten one team with a winning record early on in the season. the redskins have beaten two teams with winning records in the last 3 games, including our divisional champion.

the seahawks are like Hawaii in college ball. they cool againt non-factor teams, but when it comes time to play in the prime time people realize they're nothing special.

[The Top Cat]

Branch. Shouldn't play
Engram, and yes I am a PSU fan, will NOT (or should not) go over the middle against our safeties.

DJ Who?

Pollard.. um yea. how many teams has he played for? Oh, I forgot! That powerhouse Detroit Lions thought that he was so awesome that they cut his @$$???????

Wow Topcat. Go back to the (NET NATION)

I always amazed at comebacks based only in false bravado. Are you even capable of civiility in debate? Nevermind, that's rhetorical.

[skinfan13]

Being a college athlete I've played infront of 70k screaming fans. I dont care how loud they are the better team will come out on top on Saturday afternoon hey who is this? I'm guessing you graduated from stone bridge?

[redskin destiny]

If you actually have to ask, then you really have no idea who the Seahawks really are. Alas, it speaks volumes of your inability to objectively speak to their collective talent.

The fact is however...1 through 5, they are VERY solid. Cooley is really the only reciever on the Skins roster that is vastly superior to his counterpart in my view. Moss is a stud, but Seattle also has a few.

Branch (who may not play) is a former superbowl MVP. I suggest to you that speaks to both his ability and his potential performance is a big game. His injury makes him a question mark however.

Engram. The consumate possesion guy. Great hands and decent speed 94 catched this year for 1143 yards. Better cover him on 3rd down like a glove.

Burleson If he gets the ball in the open, look out. And don't kick to him either.

DJ Hackett. Been hurt a lot this year, but he's a big strong and tall deep threat. Hasselbeck loves the guy.

Pollard (TE) Solid blocker and reciever. Long in the tooth but solid. Not a deep threat.


I'm shaking in my chair right now ( sarcasm), but one thing is for certain that there is a phrase that comes to mind that by the end of the first half your receivers will be hearing footsteps and looking for who is gonna be hitting them. Our D backfield will be ring the clocks of your guys.. Bring your running game if you can cause you havn't encountered what we have been bringing for weeks and that will be the story .. You ran into a hot team at the wrong time..

no disgrace there.. this is the year for and of redskin destiny. Besides we owe ya one.

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[skinfan13]

Santana Bust vs Truefant= Tru locks him down
Lofa Making life misrable for Cooley= guarantee
Julian Peterson/Patrick Kerney in Todd face all day= its a lock:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I am actually laughing in real life. you sound like a homer plus.

[skinfan13]

Your tune will change after the Hawks stop your politically incorrect name. [you can guess what verb goes here] it hippie. 'redskins' is only offensive to coffee sipping yuppies like you. actual American Indians don't give a **** about the name. there were a couple polls nationwide a few years back of all American Indians when this was a hot-button issue. on average 70-30 didn't care, and when questions were directed toward it, about 30 percent said it actually honored them.

I think the actual people in question have more say over the PC kneejerking white trash.

[skinfan13]

I suggest to you that I have yet to talk smack here. That includes my previous visits two years ago. And yes I came here AFTER the game and still didn't talk smack. I congratulated the Skins on a great year. Which either way Saturday I will do AGAIN.

Honestly, I have to ask...Have some of you must ever have met a decent fan from another team? Tom giants fan and bluetalon come to mind. none of the bucs homerific trolls have ever stuck around. not one. I belive we have a very insightful dallas fan who comes by every once and a while, but i forget his sn.

[Special K]

Your tune will change after the Hawks stop your politically incorrect name.

Oh, for God's sake...this isn't your site's ridiculous "Smack Shack." Lay off the stupid racial arguments...you want to come on our site and talk about the game, fine, but learn the rules of the board and keep on topic, or move to the tailgate to talk about your politically correct BS: I'm pretty sure there's a "Commie's Only" thread already started for you Seattle people.

[steve09ru]

WE WANT GREEN BAY!

you play them next year...goodluck

[HLD]

1. Im not part of the net nation or whatever that is. I am part of a totally different board.

2. I haven't said one negative thing towards the Skins or anything to do with them. That was in response to a single member that called me out. I have intentionally steered clear of any altercations on this site.

so, for God's sake, know what the hell you are talking about.

[portisMVP]

1. Im not part of the net nation or whatever that is. I am part of a totally different board.

2. I haven't said one negative thing towards the Skins or anything to do with them. That was in response to a single member that called me out. I have intentionally steered clear of any altercations on this site.

so, for God's sake, know what the hell you are talking about.

HLD I see you as a troll in sheep's clothing, trying to be all cool and fit in. WOW you really struck it rich with your "racist nickname" barb. Did you make that up yourself?

Go back to waxing the Seahawks trophy case. When and if you get trophies we want it to look nice and purdy.

[HLD]

portisMVP, you can see me for whatever you want, but truly the reason I came on this board was to learn about our opponent. Being across the country from DC we don't hear a whole lot about the Redskins except from ESPN. And we all know what that is worth.

Then I helped the group coming out a bit about the Seattle area because I want them to have a good time in a foreign city. I am even having a beer with them at the tailgate. Call me a troll if you must, but I haven't provoked anything here.

[skinfan13]

portisMVP, you can see me for whatever you want, but truly the reason I came on this board was to learn about our opponent. Being across the country from DC we don't hear a whole lot about the Redskins except from ESPN. And we all know what that is worth.

Then I helped the group coming out a bit about the Seattle area because I want them to have a good time in a foreign city. I am even having a beer with them at the tailgate. Call me a troll if you must, but I haven't provoked anything here. you seem like a good guy, idk what his problem is, but still, the rascism argument gets me pissed as hell. please excuse my attitude in that last post i did on the subject.

[HLD]

I probably deserved that... I let my quick tongue get the better of me.

[skinfan13]

I probably deserved that... I let my quick tongue get the better of me. no problem, it's all good. you're a good seahawks fan, which these days seems hard to come by :laugh:

seriosuly though I know this one kid whose a seattle fan and hes very mild about the team so I always asumed you guys were fairweather fans. the amount of trolls on here has proven me wrong i suppose :)

[The Top Cat]

Tom giants fan and bluetalon come to mind. none of the bucs homerific trolls have ever stuck around. not one. I belive we have a very insightful dallas fan who comes by every once and a while, but i forget his sn.

My question was directed at Portis. That said, I appreciate you naming BT whom I respect. He behaves and represents other Seahawk fans extremely well. I am attempting to emulate him.

[skinfan13]

My question was directed at Portis. That said, I appreciate you naming BT whom I respect. He behaves and represents other Seahawk fans extremely well. I am attempting to emulate him. so far you seem ok, if you show up after the game and check in once and a while you'll be golden in my book :)

[sk1ns]

blah blah blah this is the 10th different thread on our fans...stop whining if you want your offense on the field with a libray-esque mode, tell em to win some games and EARN homefield and not sneak into the playoffs

Funny how you play in the NFC West and go 10-6 where 6 of your games this season were the 49ers (5-11), the Rams (3-13) and the Cards (8-8). Funny how we play in the NFC East and finish just 1 game behind you where 6 of our game are against the Cowboys (13-3), the Giants (10-6) and the Eagles (8-8). Funny how you guys have 1 win over a team who ended up with more wins then losses and that win came in week 1 against the 9-7 Buc's. Funny how you guys haven't played a team that made the playoffs this year since week 5 when you lost 21-0. Funny how you guys backed your ***'s up into the playoff playing in a **** division, while having the easiest schedule out of all the teams this year, when we had the 2nd toughest. Don't be surprised when the Skins come out and show you what a real playoff team is like.

[Capt Rich Fla]

We'll see how loud they are when CP busts one for 65 yards. It's coming this week.:point2sky

[C.Taylor]

We'll see how loud they are when CP busts one for 65 yards. It's coming this week.:point2sky

My thoughts, exactly. If the Redskins continue to play like they have the last 3 weeks (dominating early), I don't think crowd noise will be an issue.

[Hail_Skinz]

Santana Moss and the rest of your receivers suck compared to our recieving core. Santana Moss on a double move? Who did he make that move on last week? Oh yeah, some 5th string guy nobody has heard of. BUT, Marcus Trufant is better then SHawn Springs, enough said.


WE WANT GREEN BAY!

Um, that was Nate Jones, buddy! 5th stringer? Hardly!

[mook_juice83]

Santana Bust vs Truefant= Tru locks him down
Lofa Making life misrable for Cooley= guarantee
Julian Peterson/Patrick Kerney in Todd face all day= its a lock

You have got to be joking.

First of all, I'm no Seahawk fan, but I'm pretty sure that your "all-world, sure-fire Hall-of-Famer" Marcus Trufant does not have an "e" in his name.

Secondly, no one shuts down Chris Cooley. Look at the LB's and SS's he's gone up against throughout his career so far. You think "little Lofa" is gonna stop Captain Chaos. Please? Plus Lofa's over the top help is so impressive, I don't even know his name.

An finally, as previoulsy mentioned our UNDRAFTED ROOKIE tackle has stopped everyone from Jason Taylor, to Strahan, to Ware, To Spears. In case you didn't know Joe Bugel coaches our O-line (ie The Hogs-greatest line in the history of the NFL). He could teach blind guys with no arms to block like All-Pro's. So, I don't think they're gonna worry much about your super hero like pass rushers.


Thanks for stopping by. Hope you enjoy watching Green Bay beat the Bucs or Giants.

[TheRedfishCo]

All I have to say is 90% chance of Rain with winds from the SSW at 20-30mph. I know you guys are use to playing in the rain, but we'll see how that passing attach goes. Better hope you can run the ball Seagulls.

[mnj1125]

Jumping back to the original post...I am sure the Seahawks fans are loud but...I think I've heard on more than a few occasions that the noise is amplified more as a result of the way the stadium is designed. The noise "bounces" off the walls and awnings. If that is the case, what an awesome stadium the Hawks have. I don't think the actual noise coming from the fans is any different than any of the fans of other teams. Imagine if FedEx had the same design with 90,000+ seats!


I think people forget that it is the stadium design that gives the illusion that the fans are louder than they really are...

[The Top Cat]

All I have to say is 90% chance of Rain with winds from the SSW at 20-30mph. I know you guys are use to playing in the rain, but we'll see how that passing attach goes. Better hope you can run the ball Seagulls.

The local weatherwitches here are now saying the winds will be dying down come game time.

[SkinsFan48]

way to get after him for their QB going bald....I sure hope you can do better than that. Cmon




1. Your runningback is completely washed up.
2. Your quarterback started going bald at the age of 20.

[SkinsFan48]

Dude guy,,why dont you stop acting like your team went 16-0, your not that good.


You had one more win then we did...Go ahead and say it we sat our starters the last game..blah blah blah.

Seattle still sucks....Been to the playoffs for the last 5 years, how did that work out for you...I know.....YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT>>>



blah blah blah this is the 10th different thread on our fans...stop whining if you want your offense on the field with a libray-esque mode, tell em to win some games and EARN homefield and not sneak into the playoffs

[Bigmuss1]

Your tune will change after the Hawks stop your politically incorrect name.

Don't you have some trees to hug?

[skinsfan1992]

blah blah blah this is the 10th different thread on our fans...stop whining if you want your offense on the field with a libray-esque mode, tell em to win some games and EARN homefield and not sneak into the playoffs



sneak into the playoffs oooooooooooo thats right we won our last 4 games to sneak into the playoffs belive me if the skins were in a weak division they have home field but there are THREE NFC EAST teams in the playoffs telll sme that the skins are a little battled tested if ya ask me

[nace14]

Dude, go up and read where this started. It started because one of your REDSKINS fans said that he has never heard of any of our receivers. I was pointing out that there are guys he should have known, if he was paying attention.

Any WR can be made or broke because they don't have a good QB. Thats just a stupid statement.

my statement has nothing to do with a wide receiver having a bad year b/c his qb is not good. what i said was that your average wrs are having good years b/c your qb is really good. i wasn't making any generalization at all. i was speaking directly to your team. you on the other hand are incapable of speaking directly about your team because you clearly do not understand a thing about your team. if you did, then you would acknowledge that your recievers aren't anything worth talking about and simply talk about how hback is having an outstading year again.
if you are going to come to this board and talk, then at least be competent enough to understand your own team before talking about ours.

[skinsfan3880]

Santana Bust vs Truefant= Tru locks him down
Lofa Making life misrable for Cooley= guarantee
Julian Peterson/Patrick Kerney in Todd face all day= its a lock


both cooley and sellers can bulldoze lofa
in the flat out speed department i believe moss can blow the doors off truinfant.
and the line better pack its rocket skates collins is not as indecisive as the crackhead media makes him out to be.

face it your a one dimensonal team ever since you lost your fb mack strong for his career (which im not talking smack about i never talk smack about someone getting hurt and he was a talent.

Springs is showing the best cb play in the leauge right now landry can break people in half smoot is playing well and doughty is a speedy freak you know what that means....

since your running game is a joke hassellbeck will be seeing blitzes from every conceiveable angle and unless he starts dink and dunk two yard passes there will not be a big play the pressure will break him down first.


your defense has its work cut out for it on saturday portis is running like a man possessed and he can turn a dump off pass into a 45 yrdr tell me how many times has alexander done that this season???

you had a better team the last time we played each other in the playoffs now your team is a lot worse than what it was.


Skins 28
Hawks 7

We want dallas and we will get dallas.

[Bigmuss1]

I actually live in a million dollar home but that's cool.

Get your flannel back on, take your monthly shower, drink an overpriced Starbuck, have an earthquake and a monsoon, go back to SeahawksHuddle.com where you can slurp each other there. Your posts are weak, unoriginal at best, and it must speak alot about your life if you are living on ExtremeSkins and getting gangbusted every minute.

Typical Seaqueers fan. No Championships, No History, No Fun.


HAIL!!!!!!!!!:point2sky

[SkinsFan48]

Why dont you get the f u ck out of here...THis is our board you punk




I have heard more whining and crying from DC fans on this forum in the last 2 days than I have ever heard from Seattle fans. Go back to your shanty.

[GaryClarkFan]

Playing in the NFC West and winning it is tantamount to beating up a retarded kid. Seahawk fans, your team has 1 more win than us and we split with everyone in the NFC East. Look at your division and you know you have no real confidence in your team against the juggernaut that is the REDSKINS.

You pantywaisted fans out there on the West coast are in for a rude awakening.

Skins 31 Hawks 17


WE WILL OWN YOU!

HTTR!

[clubisyohankovic]

I thought you people in DC were supposed to know how to spell.

Really? I mean, seriously, are we known as excellent spellers?

[Heavens Safety 21]

Why are we even responding to these very ignorant Seahawk fans...let Saturday speak for its self. They wont have anything to say after that.

[sideshow24]

We played 40% of those teams. One at home and one on the road. Beat them both...

NEXT! did you play three of them twice ********? No, because if you did you'd be sitting there watching us kick another teams sorry butt instead of yours.

[Tiger Landry]

Did anyone hear the post-game show on Redskins Radio yesterday? Sonny,
Sam and Larry as well as Bram at a different point in time all said that part of the crowd noise sounded artificial and that it sounded like extra volume of crowd cheering was being pumped in through the speakers.....wouldn't doubt it for a second (because they do it at FedEx field and I sit directly below speakers in the UDeck and have heard it!) ....and their fans think they're so freaking special..Our fans blow theirs away!!

HAIL!!! :logo:

[Thirtyfive2seven]

they do it at Fed Ex? Doubt it.

[OWUeagleMD]

they do it at Fed Ex? Doubt it.

The Redskins have been penalized for doing it in the past. Documented fact, not speculation.

[redskins4life234]

(because they do it at FedEx field and I sit directly below speakers in the UDeck and have heard it!) ....

HAIL!!! :logo:
Nah, they don't do it at fedex, what is happening is the annoucer leaves the mic on, and the fan noise just goes into the mic, which then makes it a little bit louder, I have heard it before.

Unless that is what piping is, then well we do it.

[OWUeagleMD]

Nah, they don't do it at fedex, what is happening is the annoucer leaves the mic on, and the fan noise just goes into the mic, which then makes it a little bit louder, I have heard it before.

What about the time the Redskins were fined by the NFL for it, during the 2000 season?

[MichiganTerp]

we had what, one false start? and one delay of game because of it? thats really not that impressive.

[kwitt]

That home field advantage they have is borderline unfair. Maybe Snyder should start construction on a carbon copy of Qwest Field right now.

A lot of you have blamed our offensive line for yesterday's loss but I think the crowd played a huge part here too. Normally a line has split second jump on the snap since they know the count. But since they could hear nothing yesterday, that was negated and may explain how Seattle's D-Line was in our backfield all day.

[BDawkinsSucks]

Many teams (ie Seahawks, Colts) are known to have articifial crowd noise, which is illegal, but since it makes the games sound exciting on TV, league administrators and referrees turn a blind eye, and they aren't motivated to thoroughly investigate it.

So if other stadiums are being condoned for it, why aren't we exploiting it like these other Superbowl contention teams?

Understandably, we can't request Snider to do it publically (nor privately unless you are friends with Snider) to play crowd noise over the speakers, so why don't we be proactive about it as fans, and make a highly organized/clever 12th man of our own?

There are some really loud handheld horns out there that squawk and bleet really intensely. If all the fans in the endzones can pound these horns when the QB is making his Hut-Hut cadence, we can drown him out so that his O-line can't hear. Then it's "False start, number 60, offense, 5 yards..." all day, especially against shotgun teams, when backed up in their own 5 yd line, or threatening to score at our 5 yd line.

If horns aren't allowed, the endzones need to get organized and mimic the Hut-Hut verbally, instead of just screaming senselessly (screaming senselessly should be done while the visiting team is huddling). This type of organization/innovation is needed to make the best 12th man in the league.

Also when kickers are attempting a fieldgoal, instead of everyone behind the uprights shaking their arms crazily, everyone needs to get organized and perform a synchronized left-to-right (and viceversa) crowd wave, so that instead of the crowd behind the fieldgoal appearing as just a whitenoise shimmer, it will look like the crowd and the fieldgoal is actually swaying side-to-side, creating a sense of vertigo in the kicker when he's lining up his kick.

Just like a rookie QB, the crowd 12th man will have to have several games under our belt to get as organized as we need to be to do the above. But with a few leaders in the endzone sections of the stadium, I believe we can get there by the time next years playoffs roll around.

Let's go skins! 2008-2009 Superbowl Champs!

[RedskinsNation]

What about the time the Redskins were fined by the NFL for it, during the 2000 season?

Link? I'd like to read about it, i dont remember this happeneing.

[redskins4life234]

What about the time the Redskins were fined by the NFL for it, during the 2000 season?
What about that was 8 years ago? Doesn't mean they do it to the day

[JeffSchmeff]

What about the time the Redskins were fined by the NFL for it, during the 2000 season?

Do you have a link with proof?

[MDRedskinsFan]

I remember back in 2003 during a hotly contested game with the Ravens, Baltimore came back to win like 44-41 (who thought they were capable of putting up that many points?). Anyhow, after the game, Holmgren whined that the P.A. announcer up there incited the crowd by emphasizing "3rd down" or something, and the Ravens were told not to do that anymore. Yet Seattle thinks they can get away with this stuff because of the design of the stadium? Unfortunately because the design in fact pumps noise back into the field, there isn't any way to prove that they do pump in sound without an NFL official sitting in the last 2 rows of that stadium, which would never happen. I'm just glad they'll get killed in Green Bay.

[OWUeagleMD]

What about that was 8 years ago? Doesn't mean they do it to the day

No, it doesn't. Actually, it's probably a pretty good indication that they don't do it anymore, since they've been penalized once.

I posted a link to this once a few years ago. It was tough to find an article on it, but I was back in college then and had access to EBSCO and Lexis-Nexis.

I'll run a search through my old posts and see if I can find the post I made. Ironically, I think it was from a Seattle newspaper.

[NewCliche21]

Wow.

I really hope that this is a joke.

[Dick Edds]

Did anyone hear the post-game show on Redskins Radio yesterday? Sonny,
Sam and Larry as well as Bram at a different point in time all said that part of the crowd noise sounded artificial and that it sounded like extra volume of crowd cheering was being pumped in through the speakers.....wouldn't doubt it for a second (because they do it at FedEx field and I sit directly below speakers in the UDeck and have heard it!) ....and their fans think they're so freaking special..Our fans blow theirs away!!

HAIL!!! :logo:

a buddy of mine was at the game. he just moved to Seattle a few months ago. He is a skins fan but is not as crazy about football as most folks around here. He roots for Seattle since he lives there, but only when they are not playing the skins. He is more of a casual fan.

he texted me in 2nd quarter and said they were definitely pumping noise in. That he could talk to the folks around him and hear it blasting out of the speakers at times when the crowd wasn't into it.

Doesn't really matter, but i thought that was interesting, considering they make such a big deal about how their fans are just so much louder than anywhere else.

That is a tough place to play regardless, I have no problem with it. But it's kind of comical in a way.

[HailGreen28]

How about petitioning to have overhangs put on Fed Ex? That's legal, right?

[Tiger Landry]

I sit 2 rows from the top at Fed Ex on on several occassions the noise level went up about 25% from the speakers directly above my head.
The first time about 5 other fans and I all looked at each other and said "did you hear that?" It was definitely way louder than what the stadium was producing and you could hear the suddeness of it being cut off......I don't know if it's a soundtrack of crowd noise or if is a live microphone getting actual crowd noise and then spitting it back out of the overhead speakers, but it's definitely being done at Fed Ex here and now..heard it probably at at least 3 of the games this year...

It's not like we don't already produce enough crowd noise on our own...Skins fans are truly the 12th man in the NFL!

HAIL!

[hail2skins]

I thought in 2000 we got our wrists slapped because of something the obnoxious PA guy at FedEx was doing, not because of pumped in noise.

I don't think it happens every game but more than several folks have noticed what seems to be fake noise coming in at FedEx.

It seems like the only way we're going to be able to show how loud our fans will be is if we host a playoff game again. The crowd does perform well from time to time, but I've never experienced the sustained intensity at that place that I witnessed during the playoff game against Detroit.

[OWUeagleMD]

Well, I've found an article from the St. Paul Pioneer Press about the time the Redskins were fined. I was right that it was in 2000, Oct 9th to be exact. They were fined $20,000. Unfortunately, the St. Paul Pioneer Press charges for access to the full article. The abstract from Google news, though, reads as follows:



[Oct 24, 2000] ... in the noise level at the Metrodome on Sunday than at any other game this season, and he added that the team does not use artificial noises. ... On Oct. 9, the Washington Redskins were fined $20000 for violating the NFL's crowd noise rule in a game at FedEx Field against the Tampa Bay ...
From CULPEPPER PUSHED FOR PRO BOWL - St. Paul Pioneer Press ($$)
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[corsair_joe]

yeah, I thought the 2000 issue was due to inappropriate comments made by the PA guy.

[spjunkies]

I find pumping in noise to be disgusting and I hope they cut it out at fedex.

Like I said yesterday, building a stadium to hold in noise like that is also bush league but it's not much the league can do about it since the POS is up.

[awm4328]

from a 20 year seahawk season ticket holder -

isn't every home team crowd special to the home team? i'm sure the skin fans take as much pride in the way they support their team as do the seahawks fans, and it was a lot of fun yesterday. we didn't sit down the whole game, and only shut up when the shawk offense had the ball. and when trufant was running back the interception, well, if you watched, you heard the crowd - it was pandemonium.

there's a reason the hawks are 25-3 at home over the last 3 years - the confidence and emotion the team gets from the home crowd is a huge factor in a game.

also, the nfl checked out qwest field after a giants game two years ago - nothing is piped in, it is that loud.

good luck next year.

[shadow32]

The Redskins have been penalized for doing it in the past. Documented fact, not speculation.

If I remember, the skins weren't fined for artificial noise, they were fined because of what the PA announcer did.

Here is an article describing what happened:

"Before the game, the public-address announcer yelled a derogatory phrase about the Ravens fans that ended in a mild obscenity."

Link (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20001019/ai_n13887544)

[shadow32]

dup post, sorry.

[skinsaddict]

what was the phrase? i'm drwaing a blank...

[Jethrodsp]

http://tricons.com/NFLForum/images/EatCrow.gif

That's me, eatin crow...although the score made the game seem a little more losided than it was.

Defense played well, offense had trouble. We lost by 21, a cruel way to end the season so suddenly.

I love the Skins though and am proud of how they fought into the playoffs this season and overcame so much.

[OWUeagleMD]

If I remember, the skins weren't fined for artificial noise, they were fined because of what the PA announcer did.

Here is an article describing what happened:

"Before the game, the public-address announcer yelled a derogatory phrase about the Ravens fans that ended in a mild obscenity."

Link (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20001019/ai_n13887544)

Looks like Snyder was into all kinds of shadiness during the 2000 season. (By the way, what could be lower than charging the visiting team bus for parking? Charging fans for training camp, I suppose)

Here is another link to the 2000 fine against Tampa Bay

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4191/is_20001022/ai_n9980306


Numbers game
Gazette, The (Colorado Springs), Oct 22, 2000
$160 Amount the Washington Redskins charged four Baltimore Ravens team buses to park before last week's game, an amount the Redskins have offered to refund

$20,000 Fine levied against the Washington Redskins for breaking league crowd-noise controls by using their public-address system for cheerleading in the Tampa Bay game on Oct. 1

[Larry Gude]

That home field advantage they have is borderline unfair. Maybe Snyder should start construction on a carbon copy of Qwest Field right now.

A lot of you have blamed our offensive line for yesterday's loss but I think the crowd played a huge part here too. Normally a line has split second jump on the snap since they know the count. But since they could hear nothing yesterday, that was negated and may explain how Seattle's D-Line was in our backfield all day.


Which is why earning home field advantage is important.

[pgray1111]

Guys....who cares about this? People who whine about crowd noise being fake or not are doing just that.....WHINING.

These guys are paid a very nice salary, from the coaches to the players, to prepare for games, and all of them knew that seatlle has a huge homefield advantage...we experienced it 2 years ago in the playoffs.

There is one great way to take care of crowd noise though.....play better.

[Washington_Redskin]

from a 20 year seahawk season ticket holder -

isn't every home team crowd special to the home team? i'm sure the skin fans take as much pride in the way they support their team as do the seahawks fans, and it was a lot of fun yesterday. we didn't sit down the whole game, and only shut up when the shawk offense had the ball. and when trufant was running back the interception, well, if you watched, you heard the crowd - it was pandemonium.

there's a reason the hawks are 25-3 at home over the last 3 years - the confidence and emotion the team gets from the home crowd is a huge factor in a game.

also, the nfl checked out qwest field after a giants game two years ago - nothing is piped in, it is that loud.

good luck next year.

Yes it is that loud. Any gripes about the noise or if it was piped in is sour grapes at this point.

If we didn' blow a couple leads this year, we'd be in Tampa today.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

Earning home field advantage is tough when you play in the NFC East. Much easier in the NFC West.

[LisaTwelve]

Earning home field advantage is tough when you play in the NFC East. Much easier in the NFC West.Wasn't too easy for AZ, SF or StL ;)

[Brown tackles Hester]

Wasn't too easy for AZ, SF or StL ;)

:cheers:

[Riggins77]

from a 20 year seahawk season ticket holder -

isn't every home team crowd special to the home team? i'm sure the skin fans take as much pride in the way they support their team as do the seahawks fans, and it was a lot of fun yesterday. we didn't sit down the whole game, and only shut up when the shawk offense had the ball. and when trufant was running back the interception, well, if you watched, you heard the crowd - it was pandemonium.

there's a reason the hawks are 25-3 at home over the last 3 years - the confidence and emotion the team gets from the home crowd is a huge factor in a game.

also, the nfl checked out qwest field after a giants game two years ago - nothing is piped in, it is that loud.

good luck next year.

Honestly, nobody cares about the Seahawks. When they win a Super Bowl....wait.....win they win three Super Bowls......no wait.....when they play in five Super Bowls and win three of them, come back here and talk to us. Have fun pulling for your mediocre team. Go Pack!

[Brown tackles Hester]

wow, you must be really upset and angry that our "mediocre team" beat your ****'s by 21 points yesterday

[Santana_Fan]

Honestly, nobody cares about the Seahawks. When they win a Super Bowl....wait.....win they win three Super Bowls......no wait.....when they play in five Super Bowls and win three of them, come back here and talk to us. Have fun pulling for your mediocre team. Go Pack!


They won't win a Superbowl. Even after having to play in the easiest division ever. 2005 was their best chance.

[100LL]

way to jinx the team moron.

[Santana_Fan]

way to jinx the team moron.


nice post :)

[Jumbo]

way to jinx the team moron.


Way to get a week vacation.

[InsaneBoost]

Way to get a week vacation.

Nice one :laugh:

[BlueTalon]

That's me, eatin crow...although the score made the game seem a little more losided than it was.

Defense played well, offense had trouble. We lost by 21, a cruel way to end the season so suddenly.

I love the Skins though and am proud of how they fought into the playoffs this season and overcame so much.
Dang, I didn't even think of that. And you were the first person I've seen mention it. I can see why that would hurt. But... might that not be his way of putting his stamp on the end of the season? Seriously -- if guys were pumped and playing for Sean and winning a game by 21 points and Sean had a hand in that (nobody planned to win by 21 points), then were again playing for Sean but lost, again by 21 points, and were all broken up about it, might that not be Sean's way of saying "that's OK, I'm here"?

[#21Taylor4Ever]

wow, you must be really upset and angry that our "mediocre team" beat your ****'s by 21 points yesterday

The score hardly shows what happened in this game. You guys didnt beat anyone's ass, we gave the game away just like we've done all year long.