MoveOn.org peels editor off of satirical Onion paper

[Sarge]

A match made in heaven

Moveon.org is good at making **** up. And the new editor has been doing this for years at the Onion

http://www.examiner.com/blogs/Yeas_and_Nays/2008/1/11/MoveOnorg-peels-editor-off-of-satirical-Onion-paper


Lots of people on the right think that the liberal group MoveOn.org is a joke. Well, now they’ll have a bit more ammo in their argument.

The powerful liberal activist group has wooed Peter Koechley away from the satirical newspaper The Onion, where he was managing editor.

In an e-mail blast that went out on Thursday, Koechley refers to “MoveOn, where I now work.”

The missive directs recipients to VotePoke.com, a new MoveOn project that allows users to check their voter registration status and encourage their friends to register.

An Onion spokesman confirmed that Koechley departed in the fall; his name no longer appears on The Onion’s masthead. MoveOn did not provide us a comment by press time.

At the very least, this will likely (hopefully!) result in one important change: Funnier headlines on MoveOn.org fundraising requests.

[The_cavalierman]

Speaking of fair and balanced,


Ladies and Gentlemen for your review. This story and source confirms what we already knew


SOURCE: Fairness and accuracy in Reporting (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067)



The Most Biased Name in News
Fox News Channel's extraordinary right-wing tilt

By Seth Ackerman (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=55)


"I challenge anybody to show me an example of bias in Fox News Channel."--Rupert Murdoch (Salon, 3/1/01)

Years ago, Republican party chair Rich Bond explained that conservatives' frequent denunciations of "liberal bias" in the media were part of "a strategy" (Washington Post, 8/20/92). Comparing journalists to referees in a sports match, Bond explained: "If you watch any great coach, what they try to do is 'work the refs.' Maybe the ref will cut you a little slack next time."

But when Fox News Channel (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=19&media_outlet_id=2), Rupert Murdoch's 24-hour cable network, debuted in 1996, a curious thing happened: Instead of denouncing it, conservative politicians and activists lavished praise on the network. "If it hadn't been for Fox, I don't know what I'd have done for the news," Trent Lott gushed after the Florida election recount (Washington Post, 2/5/01). George W. Bush extolled Fox News Channel anchor Tony Snow--a former speechwriter for Bush's father--and his "impressive transition to journalism" in a specially taped April 2001 tribute to Snow's Sunday-morning show on its five-year anniversary (Washington Post, 5/7/01). The right-wing Heritage Foundation had to warn its staffers not to watch so much Fox News on their computers, because it was causing the think tank's system to crash.

When it comes to Fox News Channel, conservatives don't feel the need to "work the ref." The ref is already on their side. Since its 1996 launch, Fox has become a central hub of the conservative movement's well-oiled media machine. Together with the GOP organization and its satellite think tanks and advocacy groups, this network of fiercely partisan outlets--such as the Washington Times, the Wall Street Journal editorial page and conservative talk-radio shows like Rush Limbaugh's--forms a highly effective right-wing echo chamber where GOP-friendly news stories can be promoted, repeated and amplified. Fox knows how to play this game better than anyone.

Yet, at the same time, the network bristles at the slightest suggestion of a conservative tilt. In fact, wrapping itself in slogans like "Fair and balanced" and "We report, you decide," Fox argues precisely the opposite: Far from being a biased network, Fox argues, it is the only unbiased network. So far, Fox's strategy of aggressive denial has worked surprisingly well; faced with its unblinking refusal to admit any conservative tilt at all, some commentators have simply acquiesced to the network's own self-assessment. FAIR has decided to take a closer look.


Link to the rest of the story (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067&printer_friendly=1)

[Larry]

Speaking of fair and balanced,

1) And what this has to do with the subject is?

2) Granted, all I've read of your article is the part you quoted.

And granted, I agree with your article's conclusions.

But a little proof to go with the conclusions might help a little.

[The_cavalierman]

1) And what this has to do with the subject is?

2) Granted, all I've read of your article is the part you quoted.

And granted, I agree with your article's conclusions.

But a little proof to go with the conclusions might help a little.

Then you should read the rest of the article because it provides all of the proof you seek. The source is www.fair.org (http://www.fair.org)


The greater point is that for all of the claims of liberal media bias the conservatives have Newspapers, Websites, Radio shows and Television outlets pumping out their agenda just as much if not more than liberals.

This claim of liberal media bias is old, inaccurate and lame.

[#98QBKiller]

And the new editor has been doing this for years at the Onion



Isn't that what you're supposed to do as editor of the Onion?

[Sarge]

This claim of liberal media bias is old, inaccurate and lame.

Not unsurprisingly, Google and the rest of the world disagree with you

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=left+media+bias

http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx?RelNum=6664

[The_cavalierman]

Not unsurprisingly, Google and the rest of the world disagree with you

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=left+media+bias

http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx?RelNum=6664




1. Your first listed source is not a source at all. It leads you to your real source which is the UCLA source

2. I applaud your attempt at throwing something up against the wall hoping something will stick but your source does not compare to www.fair.org (http://www.fair.org)

Nice try though:laugh:

[ddpls]

You honestly think these people aren't bias toward democratic or liberal beliefs?





Development Director: Hilary Goldstein (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=273) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=STLOWHGVRM^UZRI.LIT)

Media Activism & Administration: Peter Hart (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=61) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=KSZIG@UZRI.LIT)
Shipping/Sales: Sanford Hohauser (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=HSLSZFHVI^UZRI.LIT)
Program Director: Janine Jackson (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=53) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=QQZXPHLM^UZRI.LIT)
Communications Director: Isabel Macdonald (http://www.fair.org/db/index.php?mj_layout=author_detail&mj_id=311) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=imacdonald@UZRI.LIT)
Extra! Editor: Jim Naureckas (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=70) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=QMZFIVXPZH^UZRI.LIT)
Senior Analyst: Steve Rendall (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=80) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=HIVMWZOO^UZRI.LIT)
Extra! Publisher: Deborah Thomas (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=262) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=WGSLNZH^UZRI.LIT)

Contributing Writer: Seth Ackerman (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=55)
Website Contributor: Gabriel W. Voiles (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=TELROVH^UZRI.LIT)





Founder: Jeff Cohen (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=84)





I may be wrong, but looking at their bio's, I don't see how they can be considered an un-bias group? :2cents:

[The_cavalierman]

You honestly think these people aren't bias toward democratic or liberal beliefs?





Development Director: Hilary Goldstein (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=273) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=STLOWHGVRM^UZRI.LIT)

Media Activism & Administration: Peter Hart (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=61) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=KSZIG@UZRI.LIT)
Shipping/Sales: Sanford Hohauser (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=HSLSZFHVI^UZRI.LIT)
Program Director: Janine Jackson (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=53) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=QQZXPHLM^UZRI.LIT)
Communications Director: Isabel Macdonald (http://www.fair.org/db/index.php?mj_layout=author_detail&mj_id=311) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=imacdonald@UZRI.LIT)
Extra! Editor: Jim Naureckas (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=70) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=QMZFIVXPZH^UZRI.LIT)
Senior Analyst: Steve Rendall (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=80) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=HIVMWZOO^UZRI.LIT)
Extra! Publisher: Deborah Thomas (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=262) (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=WGSLNZH^UZRI.LIT)

Contributing Writer: Seth Ackerman (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=55)
Website Contributor: Gabriel W. Voiles (http://www.fair.org/images/auto_image.php?image_text=TELROVH^UZRI.LIT)





Founder: Jeff Cohen (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=10&author_id=84)





I may be wrong, but looking at their bio's, I don't see how they can be considered an un-bias group? :2cents:


Thanks again for throwing cold crap against the wall because nothing in their bios suggest that they favor one side over the other.


Swing........and a miss:laugh:

You are not even addressing the fact that Fox News is Biased as hell because you know that is a lost cause. You took a page right out of the GOP playbook and went straight to discrediting the source.

That lets EVERYONE know you got nothin...

[Mad Mike]

Speaking of fair and balanced,


Ladies and Gentlemen for your review. This story and source confirms what we already knew


SOURCE: Fairness and accuracy in Reporting (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067)




Ladies and gentlemen. The source of Cav's "confirmation" :rolleyes:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=100


As a progressive group, FAIR believes that structural reform is ultimately needed to break up the dominant media conglomerates, establish independent public broadcasting and promote strong non-profit sources of information.

Uniquely, FAIR works with both activists and journalists.


In addition, we have a thriving listserv through which we distribute regular Action Alerts to our international network of activists

I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you, to find that every single story there is anti-Bush and anti-war.

POT - KETTLE - BLACK

[Mad Mike]

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1915



Steve Rendal

Senior analyst of the leftwing "media watchdog" organization Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR)
Co-host of FAIR's syndicated radio show CounterSpin
Co-author of the book The Way Things Aren't: Rush Limbaugh's Reign of Error
Co-author of FAIR-defining article "I'm Not a Leftist, But I Play One on TV" that argues the national media slants right, not left


Steve Rendall is "senior analyst" of the leftwing "media watchdog" organization Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) founded in 1986 by radical activist Jeff Cohen.

[Larry]

Wow. Who could have predicted that this thread would turn into a slinging contest between people posting left-wing advocacy sites saying that right-wing sites are biased, and people posting right-wing advocacy sites claiming that left-wing sites are biased?

[Mad Mike]

On the founder of FAIR

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1903


Founder of tax-exempt leftwing "media watchdog" organization FAIR
Former ACLU lawyer educated at radical, unaccredited People's College of Law
Founded FAIR with cash won in lawsuit against Los Angeles Police Dept.
Acolyte of radical political cult leader Noam Chomsky, who was keynote speaker at FAIR's 15th Anniversary party
In 2003 was Communications Director for presidential campaign of Congressman Dennis Kucinich, a leader of the "Progressive Caucus"
"I am ideologically aligned with Ralph Nader, not John Kerry. I agree with Nader on virtually every issue…." -- Jeff Cohen, May 2004 column

Still not convinced?

How to Turn This Election Into a Progressive Mandate
By Jeff Cohen

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1027-20.htm

POW! And he knocks that one out of the park! :laugh:


Like I said Cav, I'll take my brains over your chest thumping any day.

[Sarge]

Time for cav to disappear from yet another thread

BTW, Walter Cronkite and Tom Brokaw disagree with you as well

http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2003/08/27/cronkite-admits-media-liberal

[The_cavalierman]

Ladies and gentlemen. The source of Cav's "confirmation" :rolleyes:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=100





I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you, to find that every single story there is anti-Bush and anti-war.

POT - KETTLE - BLACK


Again...no where in there are they slanted against conservatives....


And you are straight faced lying about every story being anti-bush and anti-war


Lying - Attempt to discredit sources - typical republican tricks

[Sarge]

Ladies and gentlemen. The source of Cav's "confirmation" :rolleyes:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=100





I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you, to find that every single story there is anti-Bush and anti-war.

POT - KETTLE - BLACK

Hey, he's moving up. Last week I caught him in some bull**** and asked for a link.

Which he never provided

At least now he's posting links

Bull**** links, but at least it's something :rolleyes:

[IHOPSkins]

Thanks again for throwing cold crap against the wall because nothing in their bios suggest that they favor one side over the other....

When asked “How often do journalists’ opinions influence coverage?” a solid majority of the editors (57 percent) conceded it “sometimes” happens while another 14 percent said opinions “often” influence news coverage. In contrast, only one percent claim it “never” happens, and 26 percent say personal views “seldom” influence coverage.
http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp

Even Liberals Admit Liberal Bias...it is not hard to find

[The_cavalierman]

On the founder of FAIR

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1903



Still not convinced?

How to Turn This Election Into a Progressive Mandate
By Jeff Cohen

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1027-20.htm

POW! And he knocks that one out of the park! :laugh:


Like I said Cav, I'll take my brains over your chest thumping any day.


Ladies and gentlemen:


1. Notice how neither Sarge nor Mad-Mike have attacked the fact that Fox is indeed biased. They have not touched that with a 50 foot pole because they know it was on point.

They have gone after the source of the story because they know they have no hope of disproving the ORIGINAL POINT.

Typical GOP Tactics:

1. Deny

2. Attempt to Discredit sources

3. Admit they are wrong later (Iraq, CIA Leaks, etc.):D


We've seen it before.....we'll see it again

[SkinsOrlando]

Wasn't this thread about an editor from the onion going to Moveon.org??? What does foxnews have to do with this???

[Mad Mike]

Thanks again for throwing cold crap against the wall because nothing in their bios suggest that they favor one side over the other.

Swing........and a miss:laugh:


How to Turn This Election Into a Progressive Mandate
By Jeff Cohen (FOUNDER of F.A.I.R.)

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1027-20.htm


He is on the advisory board of Progressive Democrats of America.

Ladies and gentlemen:

Note that cavalierman was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be dead wrong. :laugh:

[Mad Mike]

Again...no where in there are they slanted against conservatives....

And you are straight faced lying about every story being anti-bush and anti-war

Lying - Attempt to discredit sources - typical republican tricks

WHO is lying? :laugh:

[ddpls]

Thanks again for throwing cold crap against the wall because nothing in their bios suggest that they favor one side over the other.


Swing........and a miss:laugh:

You are not even addressing the fact that Fox News is Biased as hell because you know that is a lost cause. You took a page right out of the GOP playbook and went straight to discrediting the source.

That lets EVERYONE know you got nothin...


Not from any playbook. If you care to look again, I stated an opinion.

[techboy]

Wasn't this thread about an editor from the onion going to Moveon.org??? What does foxnews have to do with this???

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who was wondering what any particular media outlet's bias has to do with moveon.org, which is neither a media outlet nor a group that claims to be (or should be) unbiased... :whoknows:

[The_cavalierman]

WHO is lying? :laugh:


Are you denying the fact that the very sources you just used are biased themselves? When people check your sources it will be quite clear who is lying.


Sadly, your perception of victory has been squashed. So here we sit again with fail (http://slapfish.com/failure/failure0400.jpg) all over you. You might need someone to help you get that off.:laugh:

:cheers:

[techboy]

Are you denying the fact that the very sources you just used are biased themselves? When people check your sources it will be quite clear who is lying.

I checked his sources. Commondreams.org is a liberal site. You're correct that that's biased. I'm not sure if anyone's lying, though, and I'm still wondering at the sidetrack. :)

[Mad Mike]

Are you denying the fact that the very sources you just used are biased themselves? When people check your sources it will be quite clear who is lying.


Sadly, your perception of victory has been squashed. So here we sit again with fail (http://slapfish.com/failure/failure0400.jpg) all over you. You might need someone to help you get that off.:laugh:

:cheers:

Really, which source?

Common Dreams or Progressive Democrats of America?

Here is the Founder of FAIR in his own words...


"Mass organizations like MoveOn have a duty not only to mobilize voters and dollars to defeat Republicans on Election Day, but to work after election day to transform the Democrats into a winning (and growing) party that progressives can be proud of. That’s the clear mission of a newer group, Progressive Democrats of America."

"With Republicans in meltdown mode, Democratic evasions may work in this election. The numbers may even suggest a landslide. But only activism aimed at winning a majority of Americans to a positive agenda for change will produce the political landslide our country needs. Let that campaign begin on November 8."

Jeff Cohen is the author of Cable News Confidential: My Misadventures in Corporate Media. He is on the advisory board of Progressive Democrats of America.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1027-20.htm

http://pdamerica.org/tools/pda/Adboard.pdf

You just aren't very bright are you? :laugh:

[Teller]

I would LOVE to see a lib confront the topic of the article with a fact or two.

NOTE: This thread is not about FOX News. Please use one of the many others you've hijacked to discuss that network.

[The_cavalierman]

Since we are going through sources and trying to blame each party for something both do....


http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/myrtle_beach_blarney.html

Another debate, another round of fact-checking. The GOP meeting in South Carolina was the third for Republican candidates in a week, but they haven’t run out of exaggerations or misstatements:



Romney claimed Massachusetts gained jobs "every single month" he was governor after hitting a low point. In fact the job gains seesawed, with seven of 36 months producing job losses.


Huckabee escalated his misleading claims about cutting taxes, saying he cut taxes for the first time in the history of the state of Arkansas, which is untrue. Others put through tax cuts before he did. Overall, Huckabee raised taxes.


Romney falsely claimed to have been endorsed by the Massachusetts Right to Life Association. Actually, he was endorsed by a single chapter of a different group.


Thompson, accusing Huckabee of Democratic tendencies, said he’d been endorsed by the National Education Association. But he was actually endorsed only by the New Hampshire chapter of that nationwide teacher’s organization.


Huckabee claimed that highways in Arkansas had gone from the "worst road system in the country" to the "most improved" in the ratings of a trucking magazine. He failed to mention that despite the improvement they remained fourth from the bottom on the "worst" list.


Giuliani asserted that cutting the corporate tax rate "will get more revenues." Unlike his earlier supply-side claims, he can point this time to an economic study suggesting that he might be right, but it’s not a certainty.

[Teller]

1) And what this has to do with the subject is?

Your objectivity in spite of clear political leanings is commendable, as usual, Lare. I hope it's contagious.

:cheers:

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

I would LOVE to see a lib confront the topic of the article with a fact or two.

NOTE: This thread is not about FOX News. Please use one of the many others you've hijacked to discuss that network.
Lib and moveon.org aren't synonymous. I could care less what they do. In fact, I think they hurt more then help so **** them.

[Teller]

Lib and moveon.org aren't synonymous. I could care less what they do. In fact, I think they hurt more then help so **** them.

I agree with you there. :laugh:

[Sarge]

Lib and moveon.org aren't synonymous. I could care less what they do. In fact, I think they hurt more then help so **** them.

You mean there are conservatives working for MoveOn.org?

[techboy]

You mean there are conservatives working for MoveOn.org?

A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not necessarily a square.

[Jumbo]

A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not necessarily a square.

But a horse is a horse, of course, of course.

[techboy]

But a horse is a horse, of course, of course.

You have no proof of that. Noone can talk to a horse, of course, so how would you even know?

Liar.

[SEF]

I love when all the right wing girlies get all "outraged". LOL out loud.

[Jumbo]

You have no proof of that. Noone can talk to a horse, of course, so how would you even know?

Liar.

The historicityness of this has been well acccepted by leading equinologists, and there is actually ancient celluloid evidence of some hearing it directly from the horse's mouth, so I suppose that makes everyone named "Wilbur" a liar in your book. :rolleyes:

[techboy]

The historicityness of this has been well acccepted by leading equinologists, and there is actually ancient celluloid evidence of some hearing it directly from the horse's mouth, so I suppose that makes everyone named "Wilbur" a liar in your book. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Please. Wilbur clearly made the whole thing up to line his own pockets. Why don't we have any independent sources for this so-called "Mr. Ed"? No interviews with Walter Cronkite? No stories in the New York Times? Surely such an "amazing" animal would have sparked some interest in the wider world... Come on...

"Mr. Ed" is clearly nothing more than a mythological construct based on an earlier "speaking equine" myth, Francis the Talking Mule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_the_Talking_Mule). Please note that Francis predates Mr. Ed by years.

If Mr. Ed ever existed at all, he was likely just a good horse that was taken to the glue factory because he was old. Nothing more. Hollywood needed something to profit from, so they created the "amazing" Mr. Ed.

Free your mind.

[mjah]

LOL out loud.
Laugh Out Loud out loud?

[Mad Mike]

Damn Fascists. :laugh:

MoveOn bullies critics
http://washingtontimes.com/article/20071006/COMMENTARY/110060014

I know... Michelle Malkin... biased... But the facts seem to be there. MoveOn trying to use lawyers to bully critics. Democrats at that. :rolleyes:

[SEF]

Laugh Out Loud out loud?

Don't watch "Monk", huh?