Joe Gibbs must be pissed at what is going on!!! (Merged)

[Redskins1973]

For a man like Joe Gibbs who brought glory to this proud franchise. For a man that brought 3 titles to the Redskins. For a man that put his blood and guts and sweat into this organization. For him to see what this Goof is doing to us, he is probably regretting that he called it quits just about a month ago.

For anyone to put his whole life into his craft and to see how it's been decimated by only 1 month's work by this moron that we have as an owner, I can't imagine what Gibbs must be feeling.

I know there will never be another coach like Joe Gibbs in our lifetime for the Washington Redskins. Let's savior what he brought to us. That's all we have now!

[edgun88]

I think he doesn't really care. He was glad to get the hell out of here, IMO.

[CrazyZeb]

The answer to that would be no: http://www.joegibbsonline.com/onthefly.php?item=216

[meast4eva]

For a man like Joe Gibbs who brought glory to this proud franchise. For a man that brought 3 titles to the Redskins. For a man that put his blood and guts and sweat into this organization. For him to see what this Goof is doing to us, he is probably regretting that he called it quits just about a month ago.

For anyone to put his whole life into his craft and to see how it's been decimated by only 1 month's work by this moron that we have as an owner, I can't imagine what Gibbs must be feeling.

I know there will never be another coach like Joe Gibbs in our lifetime for the Washington Redskins. Let's savior what he brought to us. That's all we have now!

I think that the reason he stopped coaching is because he can do more for this team from other areas. Now he can truly influence the whole organization. He can help the coaches, he can still talk to and give advice to the players and he can also influence the front office. He sacrificed his coaching career kind of like how Jesus sacrificed his life on the cross. He did it for us.

[RFK Lives]

I don't know.

I have a feeling Joe Gibbs is quite content spending time with his family and watching his son run his Nascar team.

I just wish, maybe, Joe came back only or stayed on as President with the Redskins. Maybe a lot of this could have been avoided.

Then again, he could be advising Dan to take his time and not rush in to anything, that is if he is taking Dan's calls.

[[S.S.F. | Nero]]

Gibbs probably no longer felt like dealing with Snyder.

He probably didn't feel like playing the role of band-aid anymore.

[dexter's manley]

Come on - Gibbs could give a rat's ass. He was happy to get out of here and leave this (expletive deleted)show behind - and I'm happy for him that he escaped.

[COWBOY-KILLA-]

Daytona's in a couple of weeks. I'd bet he's glad to get away from the grind and watch some racin. No longer his baggage to carry.

[LoveDaSkins172645]

I think he doesn't really care. He was glad to get the hell out of here, IMO.

That seems about right IMHO. I also think Tom Cruise did some scientology crap to Snyder and perhaps that too has something to do with the current situation.

Whether it's good news or bad atleast the Redskins are still in the news. :doh:

[Burgundy Burner]

This would be wrong. Just visit his site or look at recent quotes. Even Commissioner Goodell said the Redskins are going about the searching process in the right way.

[Taylor 36]

For a man like Joe Gibbs who brought glory to this proud franchise. For a man that brought 3 titles to the Redskins. For a man that put his blood and guts and sweat into this organization. For him to see what this Goof is doing to us, he is probably regretting that he called it quits just about a month ago.

For anyone to put his whole life into his craft and to see how it's been decimated by only 1 month's work by this moron that we have as an owner, I can't imagine what Gibbs must be feeling.

I know there will never be another coach like Joe Gibbs in our lifetime for the Washington Redskins. Let's savior what he brought to us. That's all we have now!

Are you serious? Why would Gibbs be upset? If there is any mess, which truly there is only the mess that the media has made through their uninformed reports, it was mess that Gibbs, himself, created when he QUIT on the team.

[sellyoursol]

I'd bet that Joe couldn't care less.

[Fan since a Fetus]

I remember hearing him say recently that he supports the decisions that Snyder has made so far. I don't think he is pissed at all. Snyder said that he learned patience from Gibbs and I think he is showing it, unlike the impatient fans.

[AzSkinsFan63]

Clueless thread of the day!!!

[herb mul-key]

Joe left IMHO because he couldn't stand working with Dan and Vinny one second longer...I mean now hard would it have been to stay on board and quietly put a succession plan together and then resign????????????

[McD5]

As long as the check cleared......I am sure he is ok with it.

[Flycoach]

Clueless thread of the day!!!

Yea, that's what I was thinking too!

[DCMONEY]

For a man like Joe Gibbs who brought glory to this proud franchise. For a man that brought 3 titles to the Redskins. For a man that put his blood and guts and sweat into this organization. For him to see what this Goof is doing to us, he is probably regretting that he called it quits just about a month ago.

For anyone to put his whole life into his craft and to see how it's been decimated by only 1 month's work by this moron that we have as an owner, I can't imagine what Gibbs must be feeling.

I know there will never be another coach like Joe Gibbs in our lifetime for the Washington Redskins. Let's savior what he brought to us. That's all we have now!

Gibbs 1.0 was a wonderful coach. Gibbs 2.0 to me did a below average job to me. He had a losing record, he and his staff did a bad job evalauting talent and left this team in CAP hell. Gibbs 1.0 coached. Bobby Beathard was the talent evaluator. Beathard got the Chiefs, Redskins and Chargers to the Superbowl. Beathard and Gibbs had thier clashes but I was glad Beathard was the GM. That being said Gibbs and Snyder in my opinion were similar when it came to bringing players in. Do what you gotta do. I'll say it again, when you do business in the manner that the Skins have done it, you can't come back with the results they've come back with. The draft Picks the Free Agent spending and evalaution have been over all terrible to me. A lot of wasted moves.

[skinsfan4221977]

I think Gibbs hit the nail on the head when he said, "PRAY ON IT!!"

Pray for Dan to find a good coach.

If Joe Gibbs can be a man of faith through good times and bad, then we can be people of faith as well.

Stepping off my pulpit now.

[Chief skin]

I think he doesn't really care. He was glad to get the hell out of here, IMO.




I think he cares but also think he colud not work with these 2 clowns any longer, daniel and vincent so yes he is glad to be out of here. No different then at your job, if yuor working for AHOLES you have to get out don't you?

[Bang]

Come on - Gibbs could give a rat's ass. He was happy to get out of here and leave this (expletive deleted)show behind - and I'm happy for him that he escaped.
Yeah, conjecture much?

There's absolutely nothing to any of this. Zero proof except for the perception n your head. Snyder gave him a blank check to build the team, and guess who walked out a year ahead of schedule?

Oh yeah,. St. Joe did.
Now the team is scrambling to replace him, and it's whose fault?

Walk in the forest. See the trees.

~Bang

[pgitta]

Apathy baby. Apathy.

I love the coach, but I have to admit one thing about him always made me crazy:

The guy can't ever say anything's wrong. Everyone's always making the right decisions. Every player is the best he's ever seen. Every thing is going just hunky-dorey.

Silver lining, silver lining, silver lining.

Never a strait answer. Dodge, dodge, dodge.

Should have gone into politics.

[SkinsNatsFan]

I believe that Dan Snyder has been quoted recently as saying that he has spoken with Joe Gibbs every day during the coaching search.

[skinsfan51]

The answer to that would be no: http://www.joegibbsonline.com/onthefly.php?item=216

I love how he keeps saying "we" when talking about the organization. I think he still has ties to the Redskins and will for years to come, hopefully.

[SoCalSkins]

He is probably happy. The way things are going, Gibbs II might end up being one of the better eras in Skins history for the foreseeable future. It might tarnish his legacy less.

[sith lord]

Are you serious? Why would Gibbs be upset? If there is any mess, which truly there is only the mess that the media has made through their uninformed reports, it was mess that Gibbs, himself, created when he QUIT on the team.

Very true. It was Gibbs who said he was gonna ride this thing out and he went back on his word. And what has Snyder done wrong?

[stevemcc]

Very true. It was Gibbs who said he was gonna ride this thing out and he went back on his word. And what has Snyder done wrong?

As much as I love Joe Gibbs, I think this is really the problem. I'm sure Snyder took Joe at his word that he would go the whole 5 years of his contract. Now, here we are.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

Joe left IMHO because he couldn't stand working with Dan and Vinny one second longer...I mean now hard would it have been to stay on board and quietly put a succession plan together and then resign????????????

Correction my friend, half of this debacle we're in now is due to Gibbs.

[pgitta]

As much as I love Joe Gibbs, I think this is really the problem. I'm sure Snyder took Joe at his word that he would go the whole 5 years of his contract. Now, here we are.

Have to agree. You can admire the man, but he blew it on this one.

Don't want to finish the fifth year? Fine. Announce it at the start of the season. You just don't spring it on everyone 5 minutes after the last game, bolt out of town, and leave a chaotic vacuum behind.

Especially when you re-iterated a thousand times that you WILL FINISH YOUR CONTRACT.

People come to depend on that, and it's a shock when something you didn't think you had to worry about suddenly pops up.

So Joe's a good guy...but he screwed up this time IMO.

[DieHard86]

or feel guilty about it

[dexter's manley]

Yeah, conjecture much?

There's absolutely nothing to any of this. Zero proof except for the perception n your head. Snyder gave him a blank check to build the team, and guess who walked out a year ahead of schedule?

Oh yeah,. St. Joe did.
Now the team is scrambling to replace him, and it's whose fault?

Walk in the forest. See the trees.

~Bang

What are you talking about? Do you think I'm defending Gibbs' decision? Or are you just arguing with the little man who talks in your head?

Sorry if I used "conjecture" on an internet message board. I forgot we were only allowed to write facts that have been quadruple-checked with multiple sources.

Grow up.

[HailSkinz1]

Well, here's another theory.... I'm thinking Gibbs recommended, or at least approved of, Fassel. I know there really isn't much of a history between the two (if any), but I'm becoming convinced that there was a rift between GW and Gibbs. Maybe it was the Sean Taylor 10 men tribute, I don't know, but I bet Gibbs told Snyder that he wouldn't be able to trust GW.

By previous media accounts, Fassel is a very trustworthy, dignified, and loyal guy (very "Gibbsian" despite the prostitute thread allegations!:) ). So, I think Snyder asked Gibbs about Fassel and Gibbs approved. When the fanbase went nuts, Snyder backed off and took time to interview others.

Then, at about this time, Gibbs was asked to talk to the coaches. What did Gibbs say? Something like "Don't worry guys, it's still Fassel. Just hang tight and let the process work its way out."

I've said in other posts that I think Fassel has been the guy all along and all the other interviews have just been a charade so that we would at least feel like Snyder didn't rush to judgment on hiring Fassel. I mean, how much more of a clue did we need when Snyder hired the guys Fassel wanted to be OC and DC (once Ryan was out of the picture).

So, no. I think Gibbs is probably pleased with what's going on.

Hail,

H

[ibarramedia]

The answer to that would be no: http://www.joegibbsonline.com/onthefly.php?item=216


Makes sense to me. "After speaking to Gregg Williams and Al Saunders, They have been around this for a long time and sometimes things just don't work out."

I know some of us may have enjoyed working with a mentor in our jobs and when he leaves, sometimes it does not work out for us. Sometimes we ultimately leave at some time. That's life. So with the search for the new head coach, I'll just wait and see what happens..... there is just too much speculation by us fans over things we cannot control.

[TotalRecall]

I think he doesn't really care. He was glad to get the hell out of here, IMO.

Ditto.

[dwbiggs]

Gibbs knew what was going to happen all along.

[HailSkinz1]

As much as I love Joe Gibbs, I think this is really the problem. I'm sure Snyder took Joe at his word that he would go the whole 5 years of his contract. Now, here we are.

Gibbs never gave his word that he would go the whole 5 years. We've argued this for four years now. Gibbs always said it was his "plan" to fulfill the contract or that he "intended" to. Just like people intend to stay married for life, or have plans to work at the same place for X number of years. Sometimes, plans change. Right now, I'm planning to be at the same place of business for the next five years, but who knows? I'd hate to have someone throw that back in my face fours years later because a family member became very ill.

I think Gibbs did intend on being here the full five years, but he was drawn to his family because something changed. I cannot fault him for that.

Hail,

H

[romank]

For a man who basically caused this whole situation by not living up to his agreement ........



For a man like Joe Gibbs who brought glory to this proud franchise. For a man that brought 3 titles to the Redskins. For a man that put his blood and guts and sweat into this organization. For him to see what this Goof is doing to us, he is probably regretting that he called it quits just about a month ago.

For anyone to put his whole life into his craft and to see how it's been decimated by only 1 month's work by this moron that we have as an owner, I can't imagine what Gibbs must be feeling.

I know there will never be another coach like Joe Gibbs in our lifetime for the Washington Redskins. Let's savior what he brought to us. That's all we have now!

[Bang]

What are you talking about? Do you think I'm defending Gibbs' decision? Or are you just arguing with the little man who talks in your head?

Sorry if I used "conjecture" on an internet message board. I forgot we were only allowed to write facts that have been quadruple-checked with multiple sources.

Grow up.


Tell you what.
You provide one shred of proof for your comment here

Come on - Gibbs could give a rat's ass. He was happy to get out of here and leave this (expletive deleted)show behind - and I'm happy for him that he escaped.
and then I'll consider 'growing up'.

OK sport?

Just ONE shred of evidence to back up your claim.

Not quadruple checked facts, just one SHRED of evidence that you have a point and are not just talking out of your ass.

OK?

Just ONE.
Shouldn't be too hard, right? for just ONE piece of evidence that Gibbs doesn't care and was happy to leave.

I'll be waiting, but it's my bet you won't find one, and chances are you won't respond.

~Bang

[Fetus]

joe gibbs and DS talk everyday and he is a special advisor to the coaching search... hes helping dan... im sure he is not disappointed in whats going on since he is part of it.... open you frickin eyes people

[smoked]

As much as I love Joe Gibbs, I think this is really the problem. I'm sure Snyder took Joe at his word that he would go the whole 5 years of his contract. Now, here we are.

Sadly, I agree. I idolized Gibbs growing up. I read his first book and gave it to relatives and friends to read, but I can't not stop believing that he didn't honor his side of the deal.

Perspective: We're fighting a war on two fronts and this is, afterall, just a damn game.

[Seabee1973]

Joe left IMHO because he couldn't stand working with Dan and Vinny one second longer...I mean now hard would it have been to stay on board and quietly put a succession plan together and then resign????????????


actually Vinny worked for him

[kingdaddy]

As much as we all love Joe Gibbs, how much of a difficult spot did Joe Gibbs leave Dan Snyder in by leaving with a year left on his contract? I know the Gregg Williams supporters will say that he should have been hired, but, if there are good reasons why Williams isn't the best fit, then what is Snyder supposed to do? He went for Cowher, he has interviewed several other candidates, how is he supposed to win in this situation? I don't know how he can please us fans.
I may be opening myself up to be bombed with hate here, but, who is out there that would make us happy? Personally, I would like to see Meeks get the job.

[RZ4]

I don't have a problem with Joe leaving one year early. I know how he kept saying that he was going to ride it out for the whole deal, and even hinted towards sticking around for a full turn around, but that's okay - he did what was best for him. And he deserves that, despite the up and down results we had during his second tenure.

Once I found out that he had resigned, the first thing that came back to my mind was the tragedy that everyone endured with Sean Taylor's passing. Things changed a whole lot after that for Gibbs, and the proverbial scale of life definitely shifted more towards family than football.

As for our current situation, it's definitely up for debate whether or not our current power structure is something that we can rely on with more than a little ease of mind. But one thing is for sure, as an organization we need to prove to ourselves more than anyone else - that we can survive and move forward successfully without our legendary coach.

[scruffylookin]

I'd bet that Joe couldn't care less.


And I for one couldn't care less what Joe Gibbs thinks either.

He's just as responsible for all of this mess by leaving this front office as is during his time here. He had the power to change the organizational setup of this team and he didn't. He kept everything in place (namely Vinny and Danny involved) and just installed himself at the top. Of course even if Gibbs had brought in a true GM, Danny may have fired this GM once Gibbs left and would have brought back Vinny from whatever carwash he'd be working at. But at least then all the responsiblity lays with Danny. Right now it's shared. Gibbs for not changing a damn thing but mostly Danny for continuing to show how NOT to build a front office.

I am so furious right now at Dan Snyder and what he has done to this franchise.

[skinfan4ever]

Give Gibbs a break..He was emotionally and physically drained from last season.He gave it his all the past 4 years and while he didn't have the same success from his first tenure, he still brought the team back from the hell Spurrier left it in.If he didn't care, he wouldn't even bother to record those messages from his house on the coaching search.

[Sonny9TD]

Toyota was calling Joe back to the track. New program over at Gibbs Racing and Joe wanted to see it kicked off right. Joe realized he made a mistake in taking Campbell too. When TC came in and started getting it done Gibbs realized what was happening. He knew that coming back with Campbell would be a struggle every week and his health would suffer. Or he would have had to admit Campbell wasn't ready and go with Todd Collins which I'm sure he didn't want to admit to another mistake. He knows it was a mistake just like he knew Ramsey was a mistake when he yanked him out after fewer turnovers that Campbell. But Joe drafted Campbell. He couldn't yank him out so easily. Joe knew the stress was going to still be here for him next year and wisely got out while his health his good.

[thomasroane]

It was pretty abrupt. I wonder if DS did something dumb like contact Cowher or something. Then word leaked out and Gibbs decided he wasn't going to be the one to keep the seat warm. This whole process doesn't have Gibbs finger prints at all. But, we know that Gibbs will never rat snyder out. Just not his style.