NEW D-LINE COACH - Vinny's Boy

[Hooper]

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/

D-line hire [David Elfin]

An NFL source said that John Palermo, who coached at Notre Dame in 1988-89 when Redskins executive vice president Vinny Cerrato was the recruiting coordinator, will be hired as Washington's defensive line coach, filling the void created by Greg Blache's promotion to defensive coordinator last month.

Palermo, now at the University of Miami, has coached in bowls in 17 of his 27 seasons. He coached Big Ten Defensive Players of the Year Erasmus James and Wendell Bryant at Wisconsin and Lombardi Trophy winner Chris Zorich, later a Redskin, at Notre Dame. Palmero was head coach at Austin Peay in 199

[DGreenistheBest]

This is starting to sound like the spoils system.

[TheLongshot]

They hired my cousin! (Kidding)

Jason

[waterwagen]

It really is a club of buddies. Amazing.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

What do you think of this hire Longshot?

[Genghis Khan]

Hopefully he will push for Campbell.

[Duckus]

This team is going to be Vinny's play toy, with a yes boy head coach.

[Aston]

Miami finished 40th in Rushing Defense, 33rd in Scoring Defense. Not bad. Not really good, either, but this is the least of our concerns right now haha.

[ntotoro]

You can't make up this stuff.

Maybe I should have said "hi" to Vinny when I saw him at Panera last year. I could have gotten a job as the QB Coach or at least Quality Control.

[cphil006]

We don't even have a head coach yet////

[apickmans]

calais campbell anyone?

[MartinC]

This is a head scratcher for sure! I just hope to high heaven that Blache was right behind this hire.

[TheLongshot]

From when he left Wisconsin...

http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/467409.html


Palermo is regarded as one of the best defensive assistant coaches in the nation and is a respected recruiter with ties to the East Coast. His pupils at Wisconsin have included All-Americans Tarek Saleh, Tom Burke, Wendell Bryant and Erasmus James. Among the players he recruited for UW were Anttaj Hawthorne and current freshman Matt Shaughnessy.

Jason

[Gary Clark Fan]

This franchise becomes more of a joke every passing day.

[Riggins Seventy Chip]

That's our future Defensive Coordinator then. Wasn't there a story about the guy they interviewed for the DC line coach, how that was Blache's "right-hand man?"

[bobzmuda]

It's telling that they hired Vinny's boy over Blache's boy for this position.

[GSF]

They can't figure out what the hell to do about theHC position, so they just keep hiring assistants! :doh: Ugh.

[Fred Jones]

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/

D-line hire [David Elfin]

An NFL source said that John Palermo, who coached at Notre Dame in 1988-89 when Redskins executive vice president Vinny Cerrato was the recruiting coordinator, will be hired as Washington's defensive line coach, filling the void created by Greg Blache's promotion to defensive coordinator last month.

Palermo, now at the University of Miami, has coached in bowls in 17 of his 27 seasons. He coached Big Ten Defensive Players of the Year Erasmus James and Wendell Bryant at Wisconsin and Lombardi Trophy winner Chris Zorich, later a Redskin, at Notre Dame. Palmero was head coach at Austin Peay in 199

Who?

Some college coach that happened to have a couple players that got drafted in the NFL. None of those players excite me and neither does this hire.

[Riggins Seventy Chip]

This franchise becomes more of a joke every passing day.

I'd say every passing second.

[Fred Jones]

They can't figure out what the hell to do about theHC position, so they just keep hiring assistants! :doh: Ugh.


:) :) :)

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

From when he left Wisconsin...

http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/467409.html



Jason

From your personal perspective, what do you think of this hire?

[celts32]

unbelievable...

[chow184]

all the "prominent players" he coached have sucked in the nfl


meaning 2 things


he should stick to coaching college,or he's a damn good coach and the players sucked without him

[Burgundy Burner]

This franchise becomes more of a joke every passing day.

Yeah - how dare them hire a defensive line coach to coach the defensive line. What are they thinking??? :doh:

[RFK Lives]

Mmmmm...Elfin Magic. Our D-Line will have the best tasting cookies.

http://home.comcast.net/~meckler/elf.jpg

[China]

Whether this guy is any good remains to be seen, but this hiring is no different than the way all teams do it. They all pick guys they know or like from past experience. Gibbs had his cronies (in fact getting his son into coaching was one of the things he mentioned when he was rehired). Spurrier had his. Schottenheimer had his son, etc.

Do you think Dan Henning was just hired in Miami because he a young, up and coming coach with fresh ideas, or because he knew and had worked with Parcells before?

[Troy Fakeman]

This franchise becomes more of a joke every passing day.


...or


This franchise becomes more of a show every passing day.

[All In]

Let's just hope they learn from what the Giants did and rebuild the Defensive Line.

[RedskinInExile]

Do this happen often? Assembling the staff to the owners liking, then sticking a head coach in there to lead it? Seems kind of backwards in my unlearned opinion...

[Sweet Sassy Molassy]

Whether this guy is any good remains to be seen, but this hiring is no different than the way all teams do it. They all pick guys they know or like from past experience. Gibbs had his cronies (in fact getting his son into coaching was one of the things he mentioned when he was rehired). Spurrier had his. Schottenheimer had his son, etc.

Do you think Dan Henning was just hired in Miami because he a young, up and coming coach with fresh ideas, or because he knew and had worked with Parcells before?
No, it was a decision by Vinny Cerrato, so I hate it! He should have asked us for our permission first.

[Hooper]

Let's just hope they learn from what the Giants did and rebuild the Defensive Line.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


That's the funniest thing I've heard all day! Gold, Jerry, Gold!

[jimster]

Yeah - how dare them hire a defensive line coach to coach the defensive line. What are they thinking??? :doh:

yeah, I remember Gibbs hired a WR coach from LSU to coach WR's. Why wasn't there outrage about that?

[bobzmuda]

Yeah - how dare them hire a defensive line coach to coach the defensive line. What are they thinking??? :doh:

The problem is Blache, as DC, had his choice interview and Vinny overruled him to bring in his own guy. Basically, Vinny overruled Blache on who his DL coach could be. That's not exactly what I call synergy between front office and the coaching staff.

[China]

No, it was a decision by Vinny Cerrato, so I hate it! He should have asked us for our permission first.

:laugh: Good point. I think we need to develop a permission slip that Vinny needs to fill out every time he makes a hire or signs a player.

[Troy Fakeman]

:laugh: Good point. I think we need to develop a permission slip that Vinny needs to fill out every time he makes a hire or signs a player.


China? From Celebrity Rehab w/ Dr. Drew? Is that you?

[Hooper]

So how long until Danny and Vinny start calling the plays?

I kid, I kid.

Sort of.

[Isifhan]

The problem is Blache, as DC, had his choice interview and Vinny overruled him to bring in his own guy. Basically, Vinny overruled Blache on who his DL coach could be. That's not exactly what I call synergy between front office and the coaching staff.

How do you know this is the way it went down?

[waterwagen]

So how long until Danny and Vinny start calling the plays?

I kid, I kid.

Sort of.You made me feel cold inside.

[ucfSKINS]

I've given up on caring about things I can't control. I laughed when I first saw this on ESPN. Thats all I can do...and get boozed out of my mind for the next few months!

Washington Redskins of old = always had a smile on my face.

Washington Redskins of present = always have mutliple beers in my hands.

Thank you Dan Snyder for turning me into an alcoholic! lol

[TheLongshot]

From your personal perspective, what do you think of this hire?

I guess the word "Kidding" didn't register. The guy shares a name with my cousin and they both live in Florida. That's all they have in common.

Jason

[TheLongshot]

The problem is Blache, as DC, had his choice interview and Vinny overruled him to bring in his own guy. Basically, Vinny overruled Blache on who his DL coach could be. That's not exactly what I call synergy between front office and the coaching staff.

Again, this is an assumption. How do you know Blache didn't sign off on this?

Also, I wouldn't call a guy who worked with Vinny 20 years ago "vinny's boy". In fact, it is what I'd expect from a guy in his position to provide names of suitible guys for the position.

Jason

[rdavis2005]

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071211/SPORTS06/71211028/-1/RSS05

This guy just retired from a mediocre college coaching career and now he joins our staff. What's wrong with hiring some up and coming people to be position coaches or at least someone who has had some success in the NFL? Why do we keep wanting to hire people who are on their way out of the business?

On December 11, 2007 this guy said the following:

“Right now, my intention is to leave the coaching profession,” he
said. “Thirty-four years in this profession is enough for me.”

Does this guy have the fire to coach anymore or does he want a final retirement paycheck and a chance to hang out with his old buddy from the Notre Dame days. Even our DC was about ready to retire.

[ECU-ALUM]

You made me feel cold inside.

This is not good...this is not good.

[Fred Jones]

I guess the word "Kidding" didn't register. The guy shares a name with my cousin and they both live in Florida. That's all they have in common.

Jason


From the article you posted earlier:


Palermo is regarded as one of the best defensive assistant coaches in the nation and is a respected recruiter with ties to the East Coast.

From when he left Wisconsin...

http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/467409.html


At least someone thinks he is good. However, I don't like that he has never coached in the NFL.

[TheLongshot]

This guy just retired from a mediocre college coaching career and now he joins our staff.

Considering that I keep hearing that he's one of the most respected D-Line coaches in college football tells me his career has been far from mediocre.

Jason

[bobzmuda]

Again, this is an assumption. How do you know Blache didn't sign off on this?

Also, I wouldn't call a guy who worked with Vinny 20 years ago "vinny's boy". In fact, it is what I'd expect from a guy in his position to provide names of suitible guys for the position.

Jason

It is an assumption, but quite a reasonable assumption.

I don't think it's too far a stretch to believe Blache brought in Larry Brooks for an interview. And if he thought enough of one of his guys to bring him in for an interview, I can't imagine he wouldn't sign off on his hiring.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/28/AR2008012802636.html


The Washington Redskins interviewed longtime NFL assistant Larry Brooks for their vacant defensive line coaching position yesterday, with league sources expecting him to be hired this week. Brooks spent the day at Redskins Park with his longtime associate Greg Blache, who was promoted from defensive line coach to defensive coordinator Saturday.

Brooks, 57, is well versed in the technique and terminology that Blache uses. Both are part of the Mike Holmgren branch of the West Coast coaching tree. Both also have ties to former NFL coach Steve Mariucci. Blache and Brooks were part of the same staff in Green Bay and when Blache was defensive coordinator in Chicago in 2003, Brooks was his defensive line coach.

Brooks, a native of Prince George, Va., played for Virginia State and was a star defensive tackle in the NFL. He made the Pro Bowl with the Los Angeles Rams for five straight years (1976-1980). Brooks coached Arizona's defensive line in 2006, but was let go when Dennis Green was fired as head coach. The Redskins could complete a deal with Brooks shortly as they try to assemble a staff in the aftermath of Joe Gibbs's sudden retirement three weeks ago. Former Giants coach Jim Fassel is a leading candidate to replace Gibbs, but the team will not decide until after the Super Bowl.

"That's Blache's right-hand man," one NFL source said of Brooks. "There's a lot of trust there. If he's in there today [at Redskins Park], then I'm telling you that's Blache's guy" for the job.

I also don't think it's a stretch to think that Cerrato overruled Blache given Brooks got an interview, but someone who has more of a past with Cerrato than Blache was hired.

You're right, it is an assumption. But I don't think you have to put on a tinfoil hat to connect these dots. It just seems like the most likely answer. :(

[burgngld]

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/

D-line hire [David Elfin]

An NFL source said that John Palermo, who coached at Notre Dame in 1988-89 when Redskins executive vice president Vinny Cerrato was the recruiting coordinator, will be hired as Washington's defensive line coach, filling the void created by Greg Blache's promotion to defensive coordinator last month.

Palermo, now at the University of Miami, has coached in bowls in 17 of his 27 seasons. He coached Big Ten Defensive Players of the Year Erasmus James and Wendell Bryant at Wisconsin and Lombardi Trophy winner Chris Zorich, later a Redskin, at Notre Dame. Palmero was head coach at Austin Peay in 199

Am I the only one who paid enough attention to know that Greg Blache is also a Notre Dame guy--both as player and coach? Who says this isn't his hire and not Vinny's?

[Chief skin]

All aboard for danny and vinnys excellent adventure

[Joe Sick]

The Redskins organization has become like the Bush Administration:
nothing but lackeys, know-nothings and yes-men...

[TheLongshot]

Am I the only one who paid enough attention to know that Greg Blache is also a Notre Dame guy--both as player and coach? Who says this isn't his hire and not Vinny's?

The only problem with that theory is that they weren't at Notre Dame together. It looks like Blache was there until the early 80s, while Palermo was there in the late 80s.

Jason

[skinsfan4221977]

Well, at least Vinny seems to be managing a little.

[bobzmuda]

Am I the only one who paid enough attention to know that Greg Blache is also a Notre Dame guy--both as player and coach? Who says this isn't his hire and not Vinny's?

According to their bios they were never at Notre Dame at the same time.

Palermo had all of 2 years at Notre Dame.

Vinny was there both years Palermo was there. And seeing how recruiting coordinators typically work closely with position coaches in the recruiting process, I don't think it's a stretch to say they have a relationship.

[HOF44]

I'm surprised Pepper Rogers has not been hired in some capacity. :doh:

[bulldog]

Palermo, though, has no NFL experience. He's a college guy. Another easy transition for the 2008 Redskins :laugh:

The Redskins are going to have to keep Phillip Daniels now to be the de facto line coach :laugh:

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

So, does this mean that the coordinators don't have the power to hire their assistants either?

This is asinine.

[Brandon-Lloyd-Bank$]

Vinny's old Mailman will be our running back coach by the end of the week.

[shamuskb]

Bringing in a bunch of Joe Gibbs's chronies is waaaaaay different than vinnies homies. oh man we are in trouble

[rdavis2005]

Considering that I keep hearing that he's one of the most respected D-Line coaches in college football tells me his career has been far from mediocre.

Jason
It only says that on his bio, what do you think they are going to say about him? 4 or 5 all americans in 27 years of coaching and no noteable NFL players sounds mediocre to me. He also never made it past position coach until this past year when he was the D coordinator for Tennesee Tech and then was burnt out to the point of retiring. I feel we could of done much better. It's one thing to get a young, hungry college positon coach with no NFL experience but to get one who at the twilight of his career is questionable.

[bulldog]

Cerrato drew a lot of interest around the NFL in 2001 after he was fired by Marty :evil:

[TheLongshot]

Palermo, though, has no NFL experience. He's a college guy. Another easy transition for the 2008 Redskins :laugh:

The Redskins are going to have to keep Phillip Daniels now to be the de facto line coach :laugh:

Somehow, I don't think there is all that much difference from being a position coach in college and being one in the pros, other than the talent level is much higher. Technique is technique, no matter what the level.

Jason

[Norvitis]

Another priceless Snyderatto moment!

[The Enforcer]

calais campbell anyone?

That is who I am hoping the Skins take with that first pick.

[skinsfan07]

They hired my cousin! (Kidding)

Jason

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[scruffylookin]

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071211/SPORTS06/71211028/-1/RSS05

This guy just retired from a mediocre college coaching career and now he joins our staff. What's wrong with hiring some up and coming people to be position coaches or at least someone who has had some success in the NFL? Why do we keep wanting to hire people who are on their way out of the business?


Our only ray of hope is Kirk Olivadotti. He's been with us through all of these changes. He's been exposed to some of the best defensive minds of the last 10 or 15 years. His preparation and attention to detail impressed GW and even a vet like London Fletcher. And he's young.

Kirk is our future. Everyone else is just filler until he's ready to take over.

[Chris Worthy]

Wasn't there someone who is in the NFL right now that Vinny could of hired?

[Seabee1973]

You can't make up this stuff.

Maybe I should have said "hi" to Vinny when I saw him at Panera last year. I could have gotten a job as the QB Coach or at least Quality Control.


head toilet scrubber for you :laugh:

[DWinzit]

Another priceless Snyderatto movement!:toilet: Fixed it for you.




Excuse me Mr. oh so successful, powerful and rich Snyder, WHY VINNY?:doh:

[DOOG]

Are there any ties from this guy to any of the one million coaching candidates we are interviewing?:logo:

[SkinzFoLife]

Oh shut yer pie holes with this "Buddies League" or "Old Boys club" or "Favorites".
This is how coporate america runs as well as every damn sports franchise ever. People hire people they are comfortable with and would rathar work with people whom they've had a working relationship with.
Ugh, this board is almost impossible nowadays with everything being so negative.

[No_Pressure]

Calais Campbell is the first thing that comes to mind, we will probably try to pick him up.

[RFK Lives]

Cerrato drew a lot of interest around the NFL in 2001 after he was fired by Marty :evil: HE DID??!!!??? http://home.comcast.net/~meckler/klink.jpg

[corrupt3d]

HE DID??!!!??? http://home.comcast.net/~meckler/klink.jpg



Yeah Burger king needed a new griller.

[RFK Lives]

Yeah Burger king needed a new griller.Oh, he would be so much better in those Give Me a Whopper Freakout commercials than running our front office...if only, going to go pray for a while.