Fassel is gonna be on 106.7 the Junkies at 9:30 this morning.

[mithong]

supposedly.

should be good.

[Potato Sack]

Don't care. We have a head coach now. I really don't care what Fossil says.

[Duckus]

He was on Mike and Mike and had only good things to say about the skins. This won't be a interesting interview. The man is very good friends with DS and seems to not hold any grudges.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Maybe he's trying to be super nice so Zorn makes him the coordinator.

[RammsteinSkins]

WOW,this guy IS desperate for money

[da#1skinsfan]

online link?

[TK]

online link?
http://www.wjfk.com/

[warren]

http://www.wjfk.com/

Sick Avatar...just sick! :cheers:

[JohnnyUtah]

That avatar is amazing

[da#1skinsfan]

http://www.wjfk.com/

thanks!

[Jimbo]

TK, that is by far your best avatar yet. :applause:

[MDRedskinsFan]

Nice avatar, TK. That was cool seeing them wear 21, and hearing Adrian Peterson say that Sean Taylor was the true MVP was awesome!

[milliondollarslim]

Only the skins could hire a new coach and have the guy who WAS NOT selected go around doing interviews. All of a sudden there is great concern about Fassel's thoughts, feelings and opinions. Well there are 31 other teams that haven't cared to hear them lately especially in regards to being a head coach.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Only the skins could hire a new coach and have the guy who WAS NOT selected go around doing interviews. All of a sudden there is great concern about Fassel's thoughts, feelings and opinions. Well there are 31 other teams that haven't cared to hear them lately especially in regards to being a head coach.

It is pretty clear this is all being done to "stick it to Dan" so to say

The Junkies aren't really fans of the Redskins

[TK]

Sick Avatar...just sick! :cheers:


That avatar is amazing


TK, that is by far your best avatar yet. :applause:
Thanks guys. :)

I was actually going to change everything back to 'TK' last night since the Pro Bowl signaled the end of the season. Then I saw that picture of our Pro Bowlers. And without any pictures of Zorn in the "maroon & black" to work with, I figured this one would work for now. :)

[TK]

thanks!
Your :welcome:

[Never4get#21]

He was on Mike and Mike and had only good things to say about the skins. This won't be a interesting interview. The man is very good friends with DS and seems to not hold any grudges.


Yeah but he did say he told Snyder to take Zorn. He was one of the 3 guys he had listed as his OC. He thought the interviews went well, but he dwelled on the fact that this coaching search "is a new trend". Picking young first timers.


He went on to say 9-11 superbowl winners were from 2nd time around coaches.

Im just glad he's not in here!!!

[mithong]

he's on right now

[SkinsHokieFan]

he's on right now

Please recap

[RDSKNfaithfull]

This guy has totally made me do a 180 on the way I think about him. He is a very sharp guy. Everything he has said I agree with :doh: He has said a lot and it would be very hard to recap but this guy will get another job.

[mithong]

much of the interview was him saying good things of daniel snyder and how he did his due diligence throught this interview process.. he also kept reiterating the point that many successful coaches were retreads, ie belichick. nothing interesting really...

he was asked about the situation in baltimore. fassell said "i don't talk to billick, i have no reason to" he sounded VERY bitter; that relationship has obviously gone way south. talked about how in baltimore, he told billick that two people couldn't run the show and that billick, as the head coach, needed to run things the way he wanted.

he also did say that a large portion of his interviews were spent talking about jason campbell.. whether he had potential, whether he couldn't play, etc.

fassell then gave his opinions on this past super bowl.




i have to say, fassel came off REALLY well in this interview. his points about giving coaches second chances were right on.

[Reaganaut]

He said interview with Snyder didn't include much roster discussion with the exception of Jason Campbell. Consensus was that he will have trouble running the WCO since he is a down the field passer. He would have adapted his offense to Campbell though. He said that Billick and he had different views on the offense and that Fassel fell on the grenade for him. Billick wanted to take it over and Fassel left with less respect for Billick. He said that there are "trends" in the NFL for college coaches now young assistants. Obviously, he thinks that Zorn is unproven and a risk that would not have been taken when he was hired at the Giants.

[mithong]

i dunno about you guys, but do you sort of feel bad for the guy after hearing this interview?

[Never4get#21]

Recap...

It was like the Mike and Mike interview in that he touched on the same topics:

1. He mentions interview process. Was long but Snyder is cordial and it was good but long.
2. The new trend of hiring coaches, and 9-11 superbowl winners are retread coaches.
He hit on that topic several times !! He has too he's looking for a job.
3. He's tring to catch on with someone, but he's somewhat disappointed because he thought DC was a good fit.
4. Interesting questions during the interview for the job about JC came up. Seems Snyder and Vinny are concerned about JC developement and how he will fit in the WCO(west coast offense).
5. The Junks got him on the Ravens issues.
6. He mentioned the Giants and that he drafted "Tiki". Who cares! Not Skins!
7. Junks like Fasel and JP is going to bench 175lb today LOL.

At least the Junks did good interview. Asked some good Questions! M and M were too concerned about saving the good repore they have with interviewing coaches.

He did a good interview BUT Im still glad that Fassel is not here in DC!!!

[SkinsGlory]

I still say the public outcry at Fassel was 10% about him and 90% about the realization that Snyder was not going to hire GW.

[Larry Brown #43]

I still say the public outcry at Fassel was 10% about him and 90% about the realization that Snyder was not going to hire GW.
I agree with this to a point. My feeling at the time was, "OK, if you're not going to hire Williams, you better have somebody AWESOME up your sleeve." And then they present us with the completely uninspiring FASSEL. So I think it was a combination of Williams being dumped AND Fassel possibly being the guy INSTEAD of Williams.

Zorn, on the other hand, represents so much potential, so much energy, so much enthusiasm. It just feels a lot better to me than hiring Fassel.

[ntotoro]

I still say the public outcry at Fassel was 10% about him and 90% about the realization that Snyder was not going to hire GW.

And you'd be wrong.

Guy comes off good in a couple radio interviews and suddenly people not only feel bad for him, but think he can win a Super Bowl.

Nevermind that he has been unemployed for the last 1.5 years. There are 31 other teams out there missing out on the genius of Superfassel.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

He made a lot of good points. When Joe Torre was hired with the Yankees the papers read "Clueless Joe" When New England hired Belicheat there fan base went crazy when USC hired Pete Carrol everybody was not happy. He said at the end of the day winning is what matters and nobody will be negative.

One thing is for sure he has it together a lot more than Zorn.

[All In]

You know if he had a good agent, they should have done these interviews when the public backlash first started. IF public opinion had an influence on the decision making, then he should have been doing radio interviews back then.

He's a good coach, but his agent should have got him out there before to improve his position. I'd still rather go with Zorn and develop our own coach.

[Peregrine]

The outcry about Fassil was 90% about Fassil. Talk is cheap. You can smooth talk your way through an interview and sound good, but we dont hire a head coach so we can have someone that interviews well, we hire a head coach so that the team will win. We knew enough about Fassil's past to say that the likelihood of us winning with him were low.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

And you'd be wrong.

Guy comes off good in a couple radio interviews and suddenly people not only feel bad for him, but think he can win a Super Bowl.

Nevermind that he has been unemployed for the last 1.5 years. There are 31 other teams out there missing out on the genius of Superfassel.

I agreed with you last week :laugh: but you can take your quote and say there are 31 other teams out there missing out on the genius of Super Zorn who wasn't even sought after aggresivly for a OC postion.

[ntotoro]

I agreed with you last week :laugh: but you can take your quote and say there are 31 other teams out there missing out on the genius of Super Zorn who wasn't even sought after aggresivly for a OC postion.

Not saying I'm 100% sold on "Do I make you Zorny, baby," but I definitely didn't want to have to live through The Jimi Fassel Experience (sic)

[da#1skinsfan]

Stop comparing Fassel to Zorn saying things like Fassel has it together more...I mean really, what have we seen from Zorn up to this point? Give me a break, I think people always just think the grass is always greener.

Fassel to me came off like a down to earth, genuinely nice, experienced football coach. He also came off as desperate, clearly trying to bubble up his image to try and get one last shot somewhere, anywhere. He made unprovoked statements like "I will be back somewhere" and "im a firm believer you dont fit just anywhere, have to find the right organization" and other statements that are clearly dancing around negating the "anyone come hire me PLEASE" vibe that he is trying to avoid.

Tough to say "please call me!" without saying "please call me" and it was obvious in the interview. He was coached with all the stats and facts/figures to support an argument no one brought up.

Still, seemed like a great guy to sit down and chat with, someone who certainly has gotten a raw deal in the past, he probably does deserve another shot somewhere but there has to be a reason 31 teams dont even shortlist him.

[da#1skinsfan]

I agreed with you last week :laugh: but you can take your quote and say there are 31 other teams out there missing out on the genius of Super Zorn who wasn't even sought after aggresivly for a OC postion.

Thats because we locked him up first. Just like we did GW when we got him, or Saunders when we got him. its not that other teams didnt think highly of them, its that it was already a done deal.

Everyone who has spoken of Zorn says the guy has it together and has all the makings of a good head coach. I like taking a risk on an inexperienced guy (IE JOE GIBBS) and giving him the reins vs an old school this is how we did it in 97 type guy.

[da#1skinsfan]

You know if he had a good agent, they should have done these interviews when the public backlash first started. IF public opinion had an influence on the decision making, then he should have been doing radio interviews back then.

He's a good coach, but his agent should have got him out there before to improve his position. I'd still rather go with Zorn and develop our own coach.

hindsight is 20/20.

if you were in an interview process being told youre the frontrunner, would you go around making waves in the community?

[zyvo23]

And you'd be wrong.

Guy comes off good in a couple radio interviews and suddenly people not only feel bad for him, but think he can win a Super Bowl.

Nevermind that he has been unemployed for the last 1.5 years. There are 31 other teams out there missing out on the genius of Superfassel.

The same could be said of Zorn. He's never even been an OC before and now he's a HC. There are 31 other teams that missed out on Zorn.

Fassel, Zorn, Mora, etc. It doesn't really matter. There was no sure thing. Now that it's over with, I just hope that Zorn and Co. can get things going and keep the skins as a contender in the NFC.

[HogNose]

Fassel who? :jerk:

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Stop comparing Fassel to Zorn saying things like Fassel has it together more...I mean really, what have we seen from Zorn up to this point? Give me a break, I think people always just think the grass is always greener.

Fassel to me came off like a down to earth, genuinely nice, experienced football coach. He also came off as desperate, clearly trying to bubble up his image to try and get one last shot somewhere, anywhere. He made unprovoked statements like "I will be back somewhere" and "im a firm believer you dont fit just anywhere, have to find the right organization" and other statements that are clearly dancing around negating the "anyone come hire me PLEASE" vibe that he is trying to avoid.

Tough to say "please call me!" without saying "please call me" and it was obvious in the interview. He was coached with all the stats and facts/figures to support an argument no one brought up.

Still, seemed like a great guy to sit down and chat with, someone who certainly has gotten a raw deal in the past, he probably does deserve another shot somewhere but there has to be a reason 31 teams dont even shortlist him.

He sounded like he still wants the Skins job not like he is putting him self out there for other teams its a freaking local radio show. He said he wouldn't fit a lot of places and the situation has to be right and you have to have a relationship with ownership. He still had a lot of praise for Dan.

I hope we bring this guy in for our OC. He is a proven commodity when developing QBs his record even as a QB coach is far supeiror to Zorns.

Zorn was killing me yesterday with his expierence of working with QBs when all he could come up with was Hasselbeck and Trent Dilfer. Zorn sounded like he was going to try to mold Jason to his system rather than mold his system to Jason.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I still say the public outcry at Fassel was 10% about him and 90% about the realization that Snyder was not going to hire GW.

Disagree 100 percent

Fassel is not a guy to lead this team for the next decade. It wasn't about GW for a lot of people, it was about not being stuck with this guy

[da#1skinsfan]

funny i heard just the opposite from Zorn's PC.

thats a direct quote from fassel about molding the system to JC...jim, is that you? get off the guys marbles man!

I would be receptive to him as OC as well, but lets not get carried away.

[HogNose]

I still say the public outcry at Fassel was 10% about him and 90% about the realization that Snyder was not going to hire GW.


Exactly right. I mean I am not a Fassel fan but I do realize he was made the whipping boy and the fan base took out their anger on him for the firing of GW.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I wasn't part of the Fassel backlash. I was honestly pleased that Williams was not named HC, though the way it was handled was crappy.

I found Fassel uninspiring, but the list Snyder was working with was not exactly overflowing with inspiration.

I think Zorn is a bit of a desperate move but am willing to give him a chance.

[Smoot Point Really]

I thought JC's long ball was "too flat" and he'd be better in a WCO. Oh well...

[GregW8705]

This is ridiculous. People wish they had Fassel instead of Zorn now on the basis of their interview skills? When has an interview won a game? When has an interview been remotely important? If interview skills matter then I want Jon Stewart for HC, Tim Russert for DC, and Barbara Walters for OC.

[Califan007]

And you'd be wrong.

Guy comes off good in a couple radio interviews and suddenly people not only feel bad for him, but think he can win a Super Bowl.
Well he already made it TO the Super Bowl, so thinking he might be able to win it isn't exactly an unrealistic stretch.



Nevermind that he has been unemployed for the last 1.5 years. There are 31 other teams out there missing out on the genius of Superfassel.
Oh, goodness, out for a whole 1 1/2 years! There's no better indication that you can't coach successfully in the NFL than being out of the league for a year or more! Tom Coughlin alone proves that!

And you are soooooooo right about the 31 other teams not hiring Fassel as being indicative of how bad he is! All 32 teams constantly fire their coaches, no matter how well they're doing and no matter how much progress the team has made under him, in order to hire a new coach who happens to suddenly become available. Happens all the time!

Most fools would be thinking that only the teams that actually NEED a new coach would matter, whittling the number down from 31 to, say, 5. But we know better. And of those 5 teams, ALL of them made excellent choices for HC, so you can trust these organizations when it comes to who they interview and hire. I mean, look at the Cardinals, 49ers and Atlanta...EXCELLENT coaching decisions over the last 2-3 years. You can trust these organizations' thinking 100% when it comes to hiring a HC.

[Califan007]

This is ridiculous. People wish they had Fassel instead of Zorn now on the basis of their interview skills? When has an interview won a game? When has an interview been remotely important? If interview skills matter then I want Jon Stewart for HC, Tim Russert for DC, and Barbara Walters for OC.
I don't think anyone has said they wished they had Fassel instead of Zorn...mostly just acknowledging that they probably overreacted to the idea of him possibly being the next Skins HC. He didn't deserve the violent reaction that 90% of this board gave him, and hearing him during this interview kinda drives that home for more than a few people.

[Truant]

I think that there isn't enough information on Zorn so everyone will still talk about Fassel until we have something concrete on our boy, Jay-Z.

I like that. Fly under the radar a bit.

[illone]

Why does everyone care what Fassel thinks?

Two weeks ago people were threatening to turn in their season tix, now we're racing to listen to his reaction on our coaching hire?

:doh:

[Califan007]

I think that there isn't enough information on Zorn so everyone will still talk about Fassel until we have something concrete on our boy, Jay-Z.

I like that. Fly under the radar a bit.
I think you have actually hit on something extremely significant...since Zorn does not have a HC track record, fans can project whatever they desire onto his blank screen.

[LiveStrongSkins]

He made a lot of good points. When Joe Torre was hired with the Yankees the papers read "Clueless Joe" When New England hired Belicheat there fan base went crazy when USC hired Pete Carrol everybody was not happy. He said at the end of the day winning is what matters and nobody will be negative.

One thing is for sure he has it together a lot more than Zorn.

:laugh: You are killing me man. Who cares how he interviews? Theres a reason he doesn't get hired. He's approaching 60 and has always leaned on coordinators. John Fox and Sean Peyton defined his tenure in NY and when they left, his teams stunk.

[Never4get#21]

There are alot of people that do good interviews and Fasell is one of them. Snyder was warned ahead of time that some of the canidates would "wow" him in the interview process.

With all that being said. It goes back to the fact that after serious consideration and several interviews Fasell did not get the job. We bashed Snyder (I still do) for the process but in retrospect it appears that Snyder did take the interview process seriously. I just wish we had better candidates to choose from. I dont think Zorn is the answer.

[cphil006]

And you'd be wrong.

Guy comes off good in a couple radio interviews and suddenly people not only feel bad for him, but think he can win a Super Bowl.

Nevermind that he has been unemployed for the last 1.5 years. There are 31 other teams out there missing out on the genius of Superfassel.

agreed.

Fassel mad me upset as a hiring, SPags did not, so the loss of GW wasn;t the reason I was upset about Fassel possibly becoming the head coach.

[LiveStrongSkins]

Also, when it comes to QB's I'm going to trust the guy who has thrown for over 21 thousand passing yards. Who cares what Fassel says about Campbell? Zorn is smart enough to know to what Campbell can and cannot do. He isnt going to feed him with a silver spoon and coddle him. Jason is a professional QB, and its his job to fit in this offense. No one should be hired to mask a QB's deficiencies. Zorn will be honest with Campbell and isnt going to give him any special treatment. He is going to make him tougher, and speaking from experience will probably get more respect for Jason. Not a retread who takes credit for the already talented John Elway. It just shows how desperate Fassel was. He was going to construct an NFL offense on the fact that there is a perception his potential QB would only excel throwing vertically. I like Zorns attitude. Boo-Hoo for Jason Campbell. He's a pro, and Zorn is going to demand the best from him.

[LiveStrongSkins]

"The Al Saunders system is too tough for Campbell"

"The west coast offense is too tough for Campbell, he isnt an accurate QB"

Zorns take: Boo Hoo for JC. I'm going to take away everything that has been comfortable for him and practice tempo and rhythm religiously. He's going to have more say on the line as far as audibles and protection calls go. He's a pro and I'm not going to treat him any differently then the 4th or 5th guy in training camp. He will get the reps but wont be treated any differently. We will have tempo and take shots.

Fassel's take: I'm going to coddle to Jason. Despite the fact he is a pro qb, I'm going to concentrate on the low percentage vertical passing game, because I will do anything to get a job. Professing my love and concern for Campbell might just get me this job.

I prefer Zorn's attitude. He doesnt buy into all the bull**** with Campbell. If he is going to be a franchise QB, he needs to succeed in this offense which will have its mix of short and long passes as well as presnap options for him. It will also have the tempo we have been missing for years. When you watch the good offenses around the league, they have a quickness to them.

[da#1skinsfan]

Actually, someone above makes a great pt. Fassel talks about his longball....I think just the opposite of Jason.

His touch has looked VERY impressive (except when he starts off a bit nervous), his short-midrange throws have been very accurate for the most part. His downfield throws have been completely inaccurate. Yes, he has an arm and can sling the ball a ways, but just remember back to the Moss-adjusted balls, BLloyd overthrows (i dont care what the masses think of him, 90% of the 10 balls that were thrown his way were overthrown down the sideline), just out of Cooley's-grasp sideline throws.

I think JC will excel in a WCO, personally, not sure what film Fassel was watching.

[Taylor 36]

He said interview with Snyder didn't include much roster discussion with the exception of Jason Campbell. Consensus was that he will have trouble running the WCO since he is a down the field passer. He would have adapted his offense to Campbell though. He said that Billick and he had different views on the offense and that Fassel fell on the grenade for him. Billick wanted to take it over and Fassel left with less respect for Billick. He said that there are "trends" in the NFL for college coaches now young assistants. Obviously, he thinks that Zorn is unproven and a risk that would not have been taken when he was hired at the Giants. I don't get this at all. First, he played in WCO his senior year at Auburn. Second, he did much better with the short passes than the long passes this season. Hell, he was horrible at hitting wide open receivers deep.

[Taylor 36]

I don't think anyone has said they wished they had Fassel instead of Zorn...mostly just acknowledging that they probably overreacted to the idea of him possibly being the next Skins HC. He didn't deserve the violent reaction that 90% of this board gave him, and hearing him during this interview kinda drives that home for more than a few people. What does that say about most of this board then?

[New]

Who really cares what Fossil has to say, its not like any of us had any respect for him when he was a candidate, why now!?!?

[corrupt3d]

so wait...JC wont be good next in WCO?

[voicekiller]

great avatar 21

[waterwagen]

"The Al Saunders system is too tough for Campbell"

"The west coast offense is too tough for Campbell, he isnt an accurate QB"

Zorns take: Boo Hoo for JC. I'm going to take away everything that has been comfortable for him and practice tempo and rhythm religiously. He's going to have more say on the line as far as audibles and protection calls go. He's a pro and I'm not going to treat him any differently then the 4th or 5th guy in training camp. He will get the reps but wont be treated any differently. We will have tempo and take shots.

Fassel's take: I'm going to coddle to Jason. Despite the fact he is a pro qb, I'm going to concentrate on the low percentage vertical passing game, because I will do anything to get a job. Professing my love and concern for Campbell might just get me this job.

I prefer Zorn's attitude. He doesnt buy into all the bull**** with Campbell. If he is going to be a franchise QB, he needs to succeed in this offense which will have its mix of short and long passes as well as presnap options for him. It will also have the tempo we have been missing for years. When you watch the good offenses around the league, they have a quickness to them.Great post. Totally agree. :applause: