Wiz blow 23 pt lead vs Golden St...Thanks EJ!

[BayouBrave86]

Ugh, what was he thinking at the end of the game with his coaching and lineup decisions? Unreal. I feel bad for the team...Nick Young, Roger Mason, and Brendan Haywood especially, these two guys were awesome tonight. Blatche..pissed off at him for letting Jackson hit that 3 to go up by 2 ..uncontested. Can't believe this loss.

[TheREALJBird]

Tough to watch, how do you dominate for so much of the game to lay a ****ing goose egg??? All-Star break can't get here soon enough, we'll likely lose out this whole road trip

[LiveStrongSkins]

EJ is starting to frustrate me. This professional basketball team still cannot break the press. Stevenson and Mason bumble all over the court when teams press. If Arenas and Daniels cant play, bring back Wilks who can atleast handle the ****ing ball.

[RySkins]

Okay, I know Young scored a few points in the 4th quarter but he kills this team when he is in the game. The ball movement completely stops with him. He goes one-on-one every play, and the amount of times he misses a shot, turns the ball over, or bleads the shot clock so that somebody else has to launch a prayer far exceeds the number of times he actually scores. And he is a poor ball-handler and defender. I know he is young and has a lot of talent, but his minutes have to be gone once Arenas and Daniels are healthy, if they ever are healthy. He should not have been on the floor the last 5 minutes of the game tonight. And to top it off, Stevenson decided to impersinate Young down the stretch.

And for all the talk about defensive improvements, this team still stinks on that end of the court. The help defense and rebounding suddenly vanish in the 4th quarter. Tonight was not an isolated incident.

[mojobo]

some of those calls dowon the stretch were pretty sketchy also. Seemed like Jamison was getting pounded and then they would go down and call a light foul on the other end. Refs did not lose us this game though, very poor play down the stretch.

[DButz65]

I saw the hafltime score and said wow, finally going to break the slump, got busy around the house and just went to nba.com to see how many points we won by.........................



:mad:

[mad4comp]

but how can this be? EJ led us from a cellar dwelling team to a mediocre one....and 3 straight playoff appearances.

/sarcasm off

[da#1skinsfan]

there we go, one bad stretch and you call for the guys head. during a good stretch everyone was saying oh yay ej, i want to have your kids!

welcome to extremeskins, the conclusion-jumping hall of fame.

[mad4comp]

there we go, one bad stretch and you call for the guys head. during a good stretch everyone was saying oh yay ej, i want to have your kids!

welcome to extremeskins, the conclusion-jumping hall of fame.

Yea we're all basing our opinions based on a single bad stretch of games... :/

EJ is one of the worst coaches in the NBA. Yea he might be a great motivator or a good manager of Egos, but when it comes to the in-game aspect of it (you know, the important part), he fails miserably.

How many times have we seen inferior players play in the fourth quarter while our best defensive center is sitting on the bench rotting away? He'd rather play Songaila, Ruffin, and Etan over our best defensive center when the game is on the line. What a douchebag, if I were Haywood I'd demand a trade, then on the way out shove my foot up EJ's ***.

Like i've been saying now (for a while), with EJ this team will never win anything. Four years.....and hes still as bad with the in-game substitutions as he was the day he got here. :doh:

[pjfootballer]

there we go, one bad stretch and you call for the guys head. during a good stretch everyone was saying oh yay ej, i want to have your kids!

welcome to extremeskins, the conclusion-jumping hall of fame.

I think you need to find yourself familiar with this thread. Started a long time ago.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235738

[pjfootballer]

8 in a row, now we won't go!

[A Real Mench]

wheres that guy that was crying about the people on here being pessimistic...... i want to hear a good excuse for this team right now

[Mr. Grundle]

I gotta admit, I can't defend EJ for last night. Songaila for Mason at the end of the game? With Mason having the game of his life? No Haywood? He was having one of his best games too. It seemed like the gameplan was to close out the game was allow GS to drive for layups while we run iso's for rookie Nick Young. It was bad....incredibly bad.

I really wouldn't care if he was fired anymore.

[skinfan2k]

wheres that guy that was crying about the people on here being pessimistic...... i want to hear a good excuse for this team right now

u mean GOskins_08? :laugh:

[triple6mafia]

there we go, one bad stretch and you call for the guys head. during a good stretch everyone was saying oh yay ej, i want to have your kids!

welcome to extremeskins, the conclusion-jumping hall of fame.


come on dude. before you try to categorize and explain how everyone thinks on this board, you might wanna do some research. i do not like eddie jordan, i do not think he is good. check my history and i'm sure mad4comp (to name one off the top of my head) is the same situation as me. we've had 2 all stars twice, but have had 3 players playing on an all star level when healthy and we are average. we've almost never been able to hold leads, no matter how much time or which team.

[The Brave Little Toaster Oven]

u mean GOskins_08? :laugh:

who has the leash?

[skinfan2k]

who has the leash?


his response, well we had a lead but we were expected to lose. EJ had a fantastic lineup in the ball game!:D

[mboyd784]

Steezy came up soft late, as usual. That's why we lost the lead.

[truetotheblue]

Originally copied from april 27th thread vs Cavs found here


http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3736317#post3736317



Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo23
Actually, i think an average coach would have faltered and melted after the team sunk down 17 points at half time.. HE kept their heads in the game and said SOMETHING at half time that lit a fire under them.Did you not see how pumped they were? I know Jordan isn't perfect but jesus, give him is due, the guy kept this team together without his 2 all stars and we could have won the game.


Whatever, I'm going to watch some Gilbert Arenas highlight videos now. :(



Actually, I believe that Jamison was the one who kept the team together. At the half, Jamison exhorted his teammates to do better. EJ, didnt say much at the half and let Jamison do the talking. Then at the start of 2rd quarter, Jamison lead by example, trying to lead the team on the floor.

I always kept my optimism with EJ, but as of late I cant. I dont think EJ is the one winning these games. if he was we wouldnt have highlight reels of the Wizards winning by 2 to 3 points per game, after we had a lead as much as 28. It was our all-stars hitting clutch shots, when we actually shouldnt have been in that position in the first place.

Now that our all-stars our out, we lose by 2 to 5 points a game... Funny how that looks. No-one to hit the clutch... My question to you. With all the talent on the team.. Why are we still hitting "clutch" shots???

I watched this game dreadfully in the last 2 minutes. What? Brendan and Mason out? WTF??

I said it before, EJ's coaching isn't helping us to win, its the determination of our all-stars to eke out wins. When you have leads as big as this then the coach has to throw in a gameplan to keep that lead. EJ, unfortunately comes up short in this area. His substitutions to play-calling was horrendous down the stretch.
Same as last year.. Kill your best players by giving 40 43 minutes a game and lose them down the stretch due to injuries...

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

wheres that guy that was crying about the people on here being pessimistic...... i want to hear a good excuse for this team right now
Injuries. Not an excuse. A reality.

[da#1skinsfan]

Injuries. Not an excuse. A reality.

Nah, having your top 2 all-star players out, thats no big deal. Phoenix deals with it, Nash and Stoudemire constantly out...Lakers with Kobe and Odom out, Detroit with Rip and Billups out, Spurs with Duncan and Manu out...everyone deals with it.

Wait...

[A Real Mench]

Injuries. Not an excuse. A reality.

so that explains blowing a 23 point lead

[mad4comp]

so that explains blowing a 23 point lead

Yea we did great the first half, but the onslew of injuries in the second half did us in......

:rolleyes:

Funny how when we were 24-19 none of this injury bs talk came up, but when we lose a game its because Gil was injured, or Etan, or Caron etc....

[skinfan2k]

Funny how when we were 24-19 none of this injury bs talk came up, but when we lose a game its because Gil was injured, or Etan, or Caron etc....

i agree mad, but do you agree with me that the wizards actually did better than you expected for a longer period with the injuires.

[Warhead36]

We were fine without Arenas because Daniels is a veteran PG whos very reliable and Butler was playing like an MVP candidate. Now you take both those guys out and you're left with Jamison and a bunch of guys who've proven little to nothing in the pros.

No excuse for blowing a 23 point lead. That was horrible. But overall I'm not going to scream the sky is falling. This team's depth was proven to be good enough to sustain one major injury but losing two top 20 in the league calibur superstars is brutal.

[GOSKINS_08]

wheres that guy that was crying about the people on here being pessimistic...... i want to hear a good excuse for this team right now

I guess that would be someone like me because I understand that teams cant win without 2 of their best players playing? Oh yeah, my bad..I forgot on here we're suppose to ***** all the time..Dont mind me, i'll be going back to Wizardsextreme.

[GOSKINS_08]

his response, well we had a lead but we were expected to lose. EJ had a fantastic lineup in the ball game!:D

Like when I always beat you in NBA 2K8? Ohhhh snap.;) :silly:

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

so that explains blowing a 23 point lead
Actually yes. When you have so many injuries it kinda affects your depth. So as games go on, and you don't have the players to sub in to spell other players, the team gets tired and worn down and blow 23 point leads.

It's not that ****ing hard to figure out.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Yea we did great the first half, but the onslew of injuries in the second half did us in......

:rolleyes:

Funny how when we were 24-19 none of this injury bs talk came up, but when we lose a game its because Gil was injured, or Etan, or Caron etc....
Kinda like how it's funny when we beat Boston back to back you are no where to be found but when we start to lose, because of injuries, here you are with your hard-on about hating EJ.

[twenty-eight]

"Yeah, and they need to get their butts back quick," said Jamison, who finished with 25 points and 10 rebounds but was unable to keep the Wizards from losing their eighth straight game. "The reality of it is that without those guys we have little margin for error and right now, even when we have played well, we're not doing the things we need to in order to win close games, and that is frustrating."

[pjfootballer]

Clips are the last hope before the all-star break to get a win.

[TheREALJBird]

I'm sorry but you don't score 72 points in the first half and lose games, just doesn't work like that. You can't say injuries lost us this game because from the start of the game to the conclusion nobody got hurt. We blew it, plain and simple

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

I'm sorry but you don't score 72 points in the first half and lose games, just doesn't work like that. You can't say injuries lost us this game because from the start of the game to the conclusion nobody got hurt. We blew it, plain and simple
Again, people get tired as games go on. That's why sub for them. Give them some rest as other players play. When half of your roster is injured players can't get that rest during games. So as a result you score 72 points in the first half, when you are still fresh, and then you lay an egg in the second half when you are worn out.

[hands11]

Okay, I know Young scored a few points in the 4th quarter but he kills this team when he is in the game. The ball movement completely stops with him. He goes one-on-one every play, and the amount of times he misses a shot, turns the ball over, or bleads the shot clock so that somebody else has to launch a prayer far exceeds the number of times he actually scores. And he is a poor ball-handler and defender. I know he is young and has a lot of talent, but his minutes have to be gone once Arenas and Daniels are healthy, if they ever are healthy. He should not have been on the floor the last 5 minutes of the game tonight. And to top it off, Stevenson decided to impersinate Young down the stretch.

And for all the talk about defensive improvements, this team still stinks on that end of the court. The help defense and rebounding suddenly vanish in the 4th quarter. Tonight was not an isolated incident.

He really reminds me of GA when he was young. He used to loose the ball a lop as he was working on his moves. Now he is a great ball handler.

This is what young talented scorers do when they get in a game. Usually it is on a crappy team so no one really minds that much. But NY just has no conscience. What gives him priority over other players who have paid their dues. I'd rather see Blatche taking those shots. NY needs to cool his jets and get in line. I want him to look for his shot but he needs to move the ball around and take better quality shots.

[A Real Mench]

Again, people get tired as games go on. That's why sub for them. Give them some rest as other players play. When half of your roster is injured players can't get that rest during games. So as a result you score 72 points in the first half, when you are still fresh, and then you lay an egg in the second half when you are worn out.



you should go to that wizards forum and stay there, cause you are just bitter and try your best to come across as smug any chance you get....... but hey, not my call, go ahead and keep doing whatever it is you do

[hands11]

I gotta admit, I can't defend EJ for last night. Songaila for Mason at the end of the game? With Mason having the game of his life? No Haywood? He was having one of his best games too. It seemed like the gameplan was to close out the game was allow GS to drive for layups while we run iso's for rookie Nick Young. It was bad....incredibly bad.

I really wouldn't care if he was fired anymore.

They are who we thought they were. :)

Hey, I can understand why you liked EJ. He is a nice enough fella and he happen to be our coach when we finally started to win.

Being a nice guy is on EJ. The wins happened because he was in the right place at the right time. We have a good GM that brought talent and kept things stable and the East has been weak.

Problem is and has always been, EJ doesn't make the most of the talent and he wears down our good players with max minutes.

I don't know who would replace him but I trust EG to find someone with as good a personality as EJ but who is a better coach.

[hands11]

Yea we did great the first half, but the onslew of injuries in the second half did us in......

:rolleyes:

Funny how when we were 24-19 none of this injury bs talk came up, but when we lose a game its because Gil was injured, or Etan, or Caron etc....


No that's to dame funny. The half time injuries.

Put there you have it. We had the best first half of the year. Same players available for the 2nd half where we blow the lead. Who played in the first. Who played in the 2nd. And who is responsible for the line ups. It can't get any more clear then that. Anyone still holding onto EJs balls need to seek help.

[hands11]

you should go to that wizards forum and stay there, cause you are just bitter and try your best to come across as smug any chance you get....... but hey, not my call, go ahead and keep doing whatever it is you do


Don't mind G.A.C.O.L.B.


He has been blind for longer then I can remember. I'm just glad there seems to be more sensible posters here now. Things got pretty bad here for a while

It was all blind EJ and GA love and not enough objectiveness.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

you should go to that wizards forum and stay there, cause you are just bitter and try your best to come across as smug any chance you get....... but hey, not my call, go ahead and keep doing whatever it is you do
Sorry that you're wrong. And of course I'm smug. That's what happens when your right time and time again. The bitter part? I don't know. But yeah, I think I will go to my Wizards forum. Have fun kicking it with the three other people who use this section. Maybe after you all agree with each other for the billionth time you can reach around and rub each other off. Be a nice mixup from the norm. Later.

[A Real Mench]

Sorry that you're wrong. And of course I'm smug. That's what happens when your right time and time again. The bitter part? I don't know. But yeah, I think I will go to my Wizards forum. Have fun kicking it with the three other people who use this section. Maybe after you all agree with each other for the billionth time you can reach around and rub each other off. Be a nice mixup from the norm. Later.

edit... you know what, your not worth it.... im not trying to get banned, so im going to be the bigger man and let it go.... but dont worry, i still know more than you and thought you should know your not right nearly as much as you think...... now get back to doin whatever it is you emo kids do

[da#1skinsfan]

this commentary is a joke. the one dude said it best with "where were you all when the wiz beat the celtics back to back". Nowhere. Now they start losing and lo & behold, the wizards forum picks up with the same 3 guys who spout the same BS about EJ and GA constantly.

Doom & gloomers man, thats what this board consists of, period. not just the wizards, its on the skins side too.

If you guys dont get how injuries on a team affects its depth and ability to stay consistent and effective throughout a game...I dont know what to tell you.

Injuries are not the only thing to blame, but then again neither is Eddie Jordan. The team just didnt perform, and there are a number of contributing factors. Thats the problem with this site in general, people love to pick out a scapegoat and pull the trigger without taking a step back and seeing the entire picture. Much easier to burn people at the stake than identify the issues at hand.

[mad4comp]

Kinda like how it's funny when we beat Boston back to back you are no where to be found but when we start to lose, because of injuries, here you are with your hard-on about hating EJ.

LOL still hanging onto this weak argument I see. I ask again, who cares about W/L's...this team is not a good team, and with EJ they never will be.

[mad4comp]

Sorry that you're wrong. And of course I'm smug. That's what happens when your right time and time again. The bitter part? I don't know. But yeah, I think I will go to my Wizards forum. Have fun kicking it with the three other people who use this section. Maybe after you all agree with each other for the billionth time you can reach around and rub each other off. Be a nice mixup from the norm. Later.

You mean like how you berated me while I said that the Wizards wouldn't win the east or get past the first round last year? Oh wait, you were wrong...

Yea why don't you head back to loserville where you and the rest of your dumb friends can take turns stuffing your noses into EJ's behind. Or better yet, how about you go back and try to figure out which one of the posters is me (heres a hint, I would never join your retarded forum).

Nope...Not me (http://www.wizardsextreme.com/showthread.php?t=1116&highlight=mad4comp)

Can you say, Losers?

[GOSKINS_08]

You mean like how you berated me while I said that the Wizards wouldn't win the east or get past the first round last year? Oh wait, you were wrong...

Yea why don't you head back to loserville where you and the rest of your dumb friends can take turns stuffing your noses into EJ's behind. Or better yet, how about you go back and try to figure out which one of the posters is me (heres a hint, I would never join your retarded forum).

Nope...Not me (http://www.wizardsextreme.com/showthread.php?t=1116&highlight=mad4comp)

Can you say, Losers?

LOL..Not that you're worried about it, or that you've ever been on Wizardsextreme.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[mad4comp]

LOL..Not that you're worried about it, or that you've ever been on Wizardsextreme.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Actually it was someone on this forum that pointed me to that. I got a nice little chuckle out of it...seeing you losers try to find out which one of the posters over there is actually me. So is that what goes on in that Forum? LOL Great insightful conversations you're having over there.

[GOSKINS_08]

Actually it was someone on this forum that pointed me to that. I got a nice little chuckle out of it...seeing you losers try to find out which one of the posters over there is actually me. So is that what goes on in that Forum? LOL Great insightful conversations you're having over there.

Suuure..Well maybe someone was kind of wondering when he saw someone over there that wasn't very smart, and I guess you were the first 1 that was thought of..You should be flattered.:laugh:

[mad4comp]

Suuure..Well maybe someone was kind of wondering when he saw someone over there that wasn't very smart, and I guess you were the first 1 that was thought of..You should be flattered.:laugh:

On the other hand, This fellow (http://www.wizardsextreme.com/showthread.php?t=1157&page=14&highlight=mad4comp) seems to think otherwise.

[GOSKINS_08]

On the other hand, This fellow (http://www.wizardsextreme.com/showthread.php?t=1157&page=14&highlight=mad4comp) seems to think otherwise.

Not that you care.:laugh: :laugh:

[mad4comp]

Not that you care.:laugh: :laugh:

Not really, but its fun seeing how you losers have nothing better to do... :laugh:

[GOSKINS_08]

Not really, but its fun seeing how you losers have nothing better to do... :laugh:

Says the guy/or woman who goes to another website and searches to see if anyone is talking about him/her.:laugh:

[mad4comp]

Says the guy/or woman who goes to another website and searches to see if anyone is talking about him/her.:laugh:

Says the Girl who has nothing better to do but talk about me in another forum.... Not enough girls here to console you when your boyfriend EJ gets berated for being an idiot?

:laugh:

[GOSKINS_08]

Says the Girl who has nothing better to do but talk about me in another forum.... Not enough girls here to console you when your boyfriend EJ gets berated for being an idiot?

:laugh:

Did EJ hurt you at some point in your life? Because you have a pretty big grudge against him.:laugh: