I wish the Eagles didnt get Samuel

[Backpack3r]

Why did he have to go to an NFC east team??!?! Why?!??!

Hopefully this wont equal more late game INTs for Jason campbell

I wish he went to the Dolphins or some AFC team that we werent playing next year

Same thing when TO left the eagles...to another NFC east team, same for Lavar lol

[santana_4_prez]

Why did he have to go to an NFC east team??!?! Why?!??!



Yes, that sucks. I about peed my pants at your sig by the way.

[STBonecrusher21]

Yes this will impact our games twice a year now. And that sucks. Hopefully Zorn can exploit him with our short to intermediate, quick routes. Hopefully....

[kansas-redskin]

he's not all that and plays soft. not shaking

[ZoEd]

Seriously, the guy isn't that good. He's a product of being surrounded by a good team. He typically gets manhandled by bigger recievers and is borderline terrible against the run. Save the drama for Momma, it gives CP even more of a reason to knock his ass out.

[Backpack3r]

Yeah but he is like an interception machine, and im not talking jason campbell im talking asante samuel

[Soup]

The eagle fans have dogged the skins for what they're doing now. Its just one player, its not like they got Brady or something.

[ZoEd]

Yeah but he is like an interception machine, and im not talking jason campbell im talking asante samuel

Again, a product of #1, look at the teams in their division and #2, the Pats have an outstanding push up the middle making QB's rush their passes. Oh yea, lets not forget #3, the Pats know all their opponents plays so the CB's know where the balls going. :D

[CGSKINS]

**** him. We will burn his *** when we play them.

[Oldskool]

say it with me...

SYSTEM


CORNERBACK


Once you people understand that certain systems are tailor made for certain players (ex. CB Jason with the Colts in a tampa 2 versus Jason David with the Saints in man to man) and the fact that front 4 and to a lesser extent from 7 play determine how well CB's play, the better off you will be.

The D-line play of the Patriots allowed Samuels to excel. He will not have that same D-line in Philly.

[2006Skins]

I like Samuels, he's good, but he's not worth the 10 year 100 mil contract he wanted. IMO there is some question as to if he's truly a #1 corner or if he's another product of a great NE team.

[haileysbadoldad]

He could be a system player which he had a great one in new england. Never knows until he laces them up, I think its good they overpay for a cornerback when they have 2 solid ones.

[STBonecrusher21]

he's not all that and plays soft. not shaking

He does not play soft. He had made some pretty devastating hits given his size...

[Redskin4ever]

I have a friend who is a Patriot's fan. That is the only person I ever heard him complain about.

[skinsfanevan]

hes a great player but what makes anyone think philly will win anything? come on now, i'll believe it when i see it

[Burgundy Burner]

Like I said in ATN and repeating what Oldskool just pointed out, asante samuel is a system corner and he will become the next javon kearse for the eagles. And he will eat into their cap and that is a good thing.

Not worried at all.

[A Real Mench]

do the people who say he is a system back realize that ty law was also in their system... and i would hardly call him a system back... hes a top 3 corner in the league, and there is no questioning that

[flexxskins]

Wow, I did'nt even know he went to Philly. I've been at work all day and heard no news. :doh:

[TheLongshot]

Plus the fact, guys who get lots of interceptions can also be fooled, since they usually get those interceptions by being aggressive and jump routes.

Jason

[kingdaddy]

Don't sweat this signing. Ike Reese is a local commentator now and even he isn't completely endorsing this signing by the Eagles. He spoke about Samuels getting his numbers in the weakest division in football and that he'll be up against much tougher competition in the NFC East. I don't think Plaxico Burress had much trouble with Samuel this past season......

[Spitfire71]

Although I'm a bit pissed at the Eagles for signing Asante Samuel (from an objective standpoint, they had needs elsewhere, like...say, WR and S), I feel good for Samuel. Samuel didn't really get the respect he deserved in NE. Now, I'm not saying the guy was a Champ Bailey, but the way he has played in his young career commands more respect than I think NE was giving him. Belichick's so arrogant to believe that he can win a Super Bowl with anybody the front office throws at him...


But the only thing worse for the franchise than letting Asante walk would be to let Brady walk. Corners as good as Asante Samuel just don't grow on trees. They never have and they won't for decades to come.

He and NE are going to regret this move. They better see if they can get DeAngelo Hall away from Atlanta, because with the loss of Samuel and Randall Gay (how much did it suck for him growing up?), their secondary is going to be hurting.

Oh, and Rodney Harrison isn't getting any younger, either.

[OWUeagleMD]

The eagle fans have dogged the skins for what they're doing now. Its just one player, its not like they got Brady or something.

No, Eagles fans dogged Skins fans for something entirely different.

The Redskins have never signed a free agent of the caliber of Asante Samuel. Their money has always gone to second-tier players.

[flexxskins]

I don't really understand why some people are playing this off as if the Eagles signing Samuel is nothing.

The Eagles are always a force to be reckon with. And with the addition of a player like Samuel, they are even more of a force.

I'm not going to sit here and worry about anything. But I am going to face reality. The Eagles just signed one hell of a CB. The guy can play.

[Mooka]

Any addition to the Eagles secondary just helps their blitz packages and makes them more effective.

Prediction, people will claim bust as Samuel will be under a microscope while the Eagles defense as a hole plays much better.

[ZoEd]

No, Eagles fans dogged Skins fans for something entirely different.

The Redskins have never signed a free agent of the caliber of Asante Samuel. Their money has always gone to second-tier players.

London Fletcher, Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs; second tier? Please! I'm so tired of people hating for the sake of hating. I wish the haters would go be Cowgirl fans.

[NewEraofSkins08]

This pretty much seals last place for us. Dallas will be strong as ever with 2 more first-rounders going in there. Eagles with Samuel and Clemons, and probably a receiver or two.Plus McNABB will be healthy. Giants coming off a SB year and Eli has the confidence to become an elite QB. John Clayton just reported Randy Moss is listening to other offers and not close to a deal with Patriots. Probably means he'll be in a Dallas or Eagle uniform with our luck. What have we done....signed our backup QB and Pro-Bowl LONG-SNAPPER.

[pjfootballer]

he's not all that and plays soft. not shaking

That's what I say.

[Terence Newman 41]

Still not worried about Philly. They already have two pro bowl Corners. THey need a big time Receiver.

[OWUeagleMD]

London Fletcher, Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs; second tier? Please! I'm so tired of people hating for the sake of hating. I wish the haters would go be Cowgirl fans.

Those are all good players and all good signings. They also aren't the signings that people criticized, which is what I was responding to.

The Skins were criticized because they gave big contracts to players that the rest of the league regarded as second tier talent (Lloyd , Archuletta, Randle El, David Patten, Trung Candidate, etc.)

Notice also, second tier talent isn't necessarily the worst thing in the world. Every team in the league has second- and third-tier talent, and you need it to win. The reason the Redskins were criticized is because they gave first-tier dollars to second-tier players (not the case with Springs, Washington, or Fletcher, none of whom were criticized widely, by the way).

[OWUeagleMD]

Still not worried about Philly. They already have two pro bowl Corners. THey need a big time Receiver.

The single reason the Eagles were 8-8 this year was a lack of turnovers. Who knows if Samuel will solve that, but it certainly is a reality.

[scotlandtech]

Asante Samuel was in a zone system, who will now be forced to play bump and run man to man. We all know the Eagles like to blitz all day long, so we will see how physical we can get. He is a good player but I am not worried about the Eagles, they really need a safety who can replace Brian Dawkins.

[ZoEd]

Those are all good players and all good signings. They also aren't the signings that people criticized, which is what I was responding to.

The Skins were criticized because they gave big contracts to players that the rest of the league regarded as second tier talent (Lloyd , Archuletta, Randle El, David Patten, Trung Candidate, etc.)

Notice also, second tier talent isn't necessarily the worst thing in the world. Every team in the league has second- and third-tier talent, and you need it to win. The reason the Redskins were criticized is because they gave first-tier dollars to second-tier players (not the case with Springs, Washington, or Fletcher, none of whom were criticized widely, by the way).

Sorry dude, I misread your post entirely. I thought you were making that claim. I do agree that we've paid sorry ass players elite player money, AA, Lloyd but to say that we haven't signed top tier players is just haters continuing to hate.

[apickmans]

better than him going to the Cowboys or Giants.

[AmishGangster]

No, Eagles fans dogged Skins fans for something entirely different.

The Redskins have never signed a free agent of the caliber of Asante Samuel. Their money has always gone to second-tier players.

Randel-El was listed as the #1 free agent the year the Skins signed him -- by many many people. He was a first-tier free agent.

[ZoEd]

Randel-El was listed as the #1 free agent the year the Skins signed him -- by many many people. He was a first-tier free agent.

I think you misread his post just like I did. I think he's trying to say that Eagles fans have accused us of paying too much money for what they consider second tier FA's. I don't think he feels that way. Damn, I read it the same way you did.

OWU, you might want to edit that post. :D

[flexxskins]

Asante Samuel was in a zone system, who will now be forced to play bump and run man to man. We all know the Eagles like to blitz all day long, so we will see how physical we can get. He is a good player but I am not worried about the Eagles, they really need a safety who can replace Brian Dawkins.Why does Dawkins need replacing all of a sudden?

[dfbovey]

He's not all that much better than the guy he will be replacing. Eagles are always tough but this move doesn't make me blink at all. If they had signed Randy Moss or a WR that would give them an offensive threat that would be different.

[scotlandtech]

Why does Dawkins need replacing all of a sudden?

Because of his age and his recent injury history. Doesn't that need to be addressed in the near future?

[Thinking Skins]

I just see him as another guy who was the product of a good defense. If the Eagles can mount a good pass rush again, then I'd be a little scaired, but as of right now, he'll have his good days and bad days, but I think we'll be able to handle him.

[flexxskins]

Because of his age and his recent injury history. Doesn't that need to be addressed in the near future?Well, you did'nt say anything about anything needing to be addressed in the near future in the quote that I responded to. In that quote, you said that the Eagles need a safety to replace Dawkins.

And IMO you don't replace a player who is still playing at the level that Dawkins is playing at simply because he has been nicked up a couple of times and is getting up there in age. If he's good, he's good. :2cents:

[csizemore11]

Again, a product of #1, look at the teams in their division and #2, the Pats have an outstanding push up the middle making QB's rush their passes. Oh yea, lets not forget #3, the Pats know all their opponents plays so the CB's know where the balls going. :D

:allhail:

[tr1]

The Eagles don't do well with big name FA signings...expect the trend to continue.

[da#1skinsfan]

dude...what is it with this guy? samuel is no better than an avg-above avg corner. he has played in one of the consistently best defenses in the league and hasnt really done anything outside of one good year.

this is the hype machine in full effect...no good corners, hes the best available, everyone thinks the dude is a machine.

ty law, troy brown, asante samuel, ellis hobbs, otis smith, randall gay....the list goes on and on, guys who have flourished under this system.

the birds can have him, doesnt bother me one bit. they still have an aging d, an aging o-line, a dramaqueen qb past his prime and not a single receiver who has lived up to potential.

whats a questionable cb going to do to that equation? maybe make up for the enormous dropoff dawkins is going to take this year...

[DWinzit]

The only thing I find impressive about Philly signing Samuels is the salary, it's huge. He is going to be another big name Eagle FA bust, they kearsed, I mean cursed him. I am happy they didn't get Larry Fitzgerald.

[CowboysSaintsFan]

How Samuel will fare remains to be seen. Heck-if anything, it's hard to trust any of these FAs b/c most of them are system players anyways.

With that being said-obviously these Lito trade rumors seem to have alot of juice to them.

[Santana_Fan]

he's not all that and plays soft. not shaking


Me either. I mean, he's good, but I don't think it'll be a huge impact.

[jbooma]

Seriously, the guy isn't that good. He's a product of being surrounded by a good team. He typically gets manhandled by bigger recievers and is borderline terrible against the run. Save the drama for Momma, it gives CP even more of a reason to knock his ass out.



The guy isn't good :laugh: :laugh:

You wouldn't be saying that if the skins signed him :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Samuel is one of the best cover corners in the game. Unlike Carlos "Stone hands" Rogers he makes plays.

This is the difference between the Eagles FO and the Skins. They go after players that fit in their system and do not freak out like we did when we signed 10 WR's when we needed one.

People might scream at Philly for never spending the entire cap but unlike us they do not have to get all of their players to restructure and always figting for space.

The Eagles are going to be very good this year. Right now we are the team on the outside looking in.

[CowboysSaintsFan]

The guy isn't good :laugh: :laugh:

Samuel is one of the best cover corners in the game. Unlike Carlos "Stone hands" Rogers he makes plays.

People might scream at Philly for never spending the entire cap but unlike us they do not have to get all of their players to restructure and always figting for space.



Jevon Kearse? Darren Howard? Anybody? Anyone? Why on earth does everyone(including Philly's own fans) STILL think the Eagles are dirt-cheap? BTW-they also gave a fat contract to Kevin Curtis as well last year. And for that matter too-they were only $9.5m under the cap last year, and Runyan and a few other Eagles players restructure every year to make more room.

BTW-Rogers has turned out to be a very good cover corner for you guys. So what if he has brick hands? Look at D-Hall...he has glue hands, but he can't cover worth a darn.

[ZoEd]

The guy isn't good :laugh: :laugh:

You wouldn't be saying that if the skins signed him :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Samuel is one of the best cover corners in the game. Unlike Carlos "Stone hands" Rogers he makes plays.

This is the difference between the Eagles FO and the Skins. They go after players that fit in their system and do not freak out like we did when we signed 10 WR's when we needed one.

People might scream at Philly for never spending the entire cap but unlike us they do not have to get all of their players to restructure and always figting for space.

The Eagles are going to be very good this year. Right now we are the team on the outside looking in.

I didn't say he wasn't good, I said he wasn't that good. Some of the posts in this thread make it sound like it's the end of the world because we have to play against him twice during regular season. Again, until he proves he's all that and a bag of chips without being surrounded by arguably one of the best teams to ever play the game, he just isn't THAT good.

As far as the skins signing him, I never supported it. Especially for the amount of money he wanted/received. We're already paying Springs #1 DB money, why pay it twice.

[Burgundy Burner]

POSTED 10:28 p.m. EST, February 29, 2008
LITO HAS BEEN BENCHED

In the offseason, NFL teams don't spend much time updating their depth charts.

But sometimes, they do.

As a reader has pointed out, the Eagles already have revised their on-line to show Asante Samuel as the first-string left cornerback -- and Lito Sheppard as a second-string player. There are reports that the Eagles will try to trade Sheppard.

Despite rumors that right cornerback Sheldon Brown will move to safety, he's still listed as the starter at right cornerback.

[CowboysSaintsFan]

I didn't say he wasn't good, I said he wasn't that good. Some of the posts in this thread make it sound like it's the end of the world because we have to play against him twice during regular season. Again, until he proves he's all that and a bag of chips without being surrounded by arguably one of the best teams to ever play the game, he just isn't THAT good.

As far as the skins signing him, I never supported it. Especially for the amount of money he wanted/received. We're already paying Springs #1 DB money, why pay it twice.

Agreed-so using this logic that the Eagles are (supposedly)finally betting the farm this year, then the rest of the 15 NFC teams should just hang up the spurs for the '08 season and play golf instead.

Yes-the Eagles will be very good this year as '07 was probably nothing more than an anomaly. However-there are ALOT of good teams in the NFC, nonetheless. The Saints made a move for Vilma, which should be a HUGE upgrade to their D(assuming he plays MLB, as Simoneau really crippled a pretty good D). The Bears had injuries up their arses last year, and it probably won't have again this year. The Packers may be overrated, but they ARE the 3rd youngest team in the league. Carolina will be back. And, of course, Dallas, the Giants, and Skins will remain competitive.

It's gonna be a wide open race, folks.

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

This pretty much seals last place for us. Dallas will be strong as ever with 2 more first-rounders going in there. Eagles with Samuel and Clemons, and probably a receiver or two.Plus McNABB will be healthy. Giants coming off a SB year and Eli has the confidence to become an elite QB. John Clayton just reported Randy Moss is listening to other offers and not close to a deal with Patriots. Probably means he'll be in a Dallas or Eagle uniform with our luck. What have we done....signed our backup QB and Pro-Bowl LONG-SNAPPER.

Way to be positive there, friend. Yeeeesh. Feb. 29th and this guy is predicting last place. Come on! Have a beer! Relax!

Oy! :doh:

[ZoEd]

Agreed-so using this logic that the Eagles are (supposedly)finally betting the farm this year, then the rest of the 15 NFC teams should just hang up the spurs for the '08 season and play golf instead.

Yes-the Eagles will be very good this year as '07 was probably nothing more than an anomaly. However-there are ALOT of good teams in the NFC, nonetheless. The Saints made a move for Vilma, which should be a HUGE upgrade to their D(assuming he plays MLB, as Simoneau really crippled a pretty good D). The Bears had injuries up their arses last year, and it probably won't have again this year. The Packers may be overrated, but they ARE the 3rd youngest team in the league. Carolina will be back. And, of course, Dallas, the Giants, and Skins will remain competitive.

It's gonna be a wide open race, folks.

I know, right? I guess the rest of the NFC should just pack it in because Samuel is going to catapult the Eagles into the Super Bowl. He's going to shut down the entire offense single handedly. Super Samuel, Mufassa, say it again. :D

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

POSTED 10:28 p.m. EST, February 29, 2008

LITO HAS BEEN BENCHED

In the offseason, NFL teams don't spend much time updating their depth charts.

But sometimes, they do.

As a reader has pointed out, the Eagles already have revised their on-line to show Asante Samuel as the first-string left cornerback -- and Lito Sheppard as a second-string player. There are reports that the Eagles will try to trade Sheppard.

Despite rumors that right cornerback Sheldon Brown will move to safety, he's still listed as the starter at right cornerback.






Asante Samuel is good. He's good in the system he's played in for years. But he also takes risks because he has almost always had good safeties to rely on in case in he blew a route coverage or went after the ball and misplayed it. Like I said, he's good at coverage and excellent at taking the ball away if given an oppotunity - that's why the Eagles got him. Check the stats - Eagles were last in takeaways.

Am I "scared"? Nah. It'll be fun to watch. Would love to see Sellers steamroll through him. :D

[33]

Jevon Kearse? Darren Howard? Anybody? Anyone? Why on earth does everyone(including Philly's own fans) STILL think the Eagles are dirt-cheap?

Because they actually are. They signed those guys and still sat on plenty of room.

BTW-they also gave a fat contract to Kevin Curtis as well last year.

They gave him the same deal we gave Randle El and thought they were getting a steal.

And for that matter too-they were only $9.5m under the cap last year, and Runyan and a few other Eagles players restructure every year to make more room.

As the Redskins can show you, $9.5 million is enough cap space for a dozen players. It's cap space, not real money, which means a player signed to a $10m SB for a contract of 5 years only has $2m + base salary counting against the cap that year. That leaves around $7m left.

Can you really say the Eagles couldn't have benefitted from just a couple extra players over the last 6 years? Have they not left a few wins out there n the field?

Does a team in the NFC East that competes strongly in the conference really need to be saving cap space and pocketing the unspent money?

It's weak. Capital W.

[Seabee1973]

The guy isn't good :laugh: :laugh:

You wouldn't be saying that if the skins signed him :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Samuel is one of the best cover corners in the game. Unlike Carlos "Stone hands" Rogers he makes plays.

This is the difference between the Eagles FO and the Skins. They go after players that fit in their system and do not freak out like we did when we signed 10 WR's when we needed one.

People might scream at Philly for never spending the entire cap but unlike us they do not have to get all of their players to restructure and always figting for space.

The Eagles are going to be very good this year. Right now we are the team on the outside looking in.

Most years the eagles max there cap out and they usually dont have the dead cap that compares to ours so they actually get to spend more per season

[Area51]

I agree with the original poster. Some of you are saying Samuel is overrated, comparing him to older Pats players that left them without findind similar success. Too bad those players, when released from the Pats, were past their prime. Samuel is just entering his. He is a great corner and definitely top 5. The only way an average corner can look much better than he is is if he got to play in a cover 2(like Jason David).

You may also say he had great safety help to cover up his mistakes. Well, now he has Dawkins and potentially Sheldon Brown to cover his ass. Samuel will be the best CB in the NFC East next year. Mark it down.

[phanatic]

As an Eagle fan, of course I'm happy about the signing. I think there will be a marginal improvement there over Lito. Lito's recent injury problems had become a factor. Throw in the fact he wanted to restructure his contract.....

Now the birds can trade him and pick up a need elsewhere. I think this is a great move. For once the Eagles turned a bad situation into a good move. After all, they've been NOTORIOUS for allowing players to walk without getting any form of compensation.

Therefore, I have no problem with this move. Besides, they have 29 million in cap money to spend.

Now if they don't make a move to bring in a receiver, I don't see where they would assume this helps. They sucked in the redzone and that MUST BE ADDRESSED!

[gkekoa]

I'm glad they signed him. He is an overly aggressive overrated CB that they overpaid for. I'm happy.

[LD0506]

I think that some are making WAY too much out of this. Samuels is arguably an upgrade over Lito but not that much of one in a position that shouldn't have been their greatest concern. This doesn't really make Philly that much more dangerous and they paid a lot to improve marginally. Seems like a net plus to me.

They go and sign serious WR talent? That would concern me far more.

[Skins4ever1]

You guys are just hating if you don't think Samuel is a very good player. He may not be the best man coverage cb in the league but he is extremely talented and can probably adjust. Who cares how much they paid for the guy. HE is making 9 million per year but that it was the market is because the cap keeps going up. We are paying 7 million a year for a 34 year old injury prone cb in Springs. Some of you guys are failing to see the flexability the Eagles now have. What if they trade Lito with picks for a very good WR? The Eagles know what they are doing. Stop saying they are cheap. They are paying Reggie Brown 6 million per year.


Also, every one thinks Samuel can't make plays without pressure, well last I checked Jim Johnson is a very good coordinator that creates a lot of pressure.


Hate to say it but the Eagles just got a lot better. It is what it is.

[Skins4ever1]

I think that some are making WAY too much out of this. Samuels is arguably an upgrade over Lito but not that much of one in a position that shouldn't have been their greatest concern. This doesn't really make Philly that much more dangerous and they paid a lot to improve marginally. Seems like a net plus to me.

They go and sign serious WR talent? That would concern me far more.

They paid what the market is. IF we want to add probowl free agents we will have to "overpay" too.

[LD0506]

They paid what the market is. IF we want to add probowl free agents we will have to "overpay" too.

Oh yeah, I know that, it's just that they spent money to improve marginally. AS is a good corner, can't argue that, but it's not like Lito is a schlub. Them "overspending" at the going rate to get a really good WR would improve them far more, that's all I was saying.

[ciresolstice]

Can only hope he is a system player and won't fair as well with the Eagles. I still think it's a good signing by them however.

[Skins4ever1]

Oh yeah, I know that, it's just that they spent money to improve marginally. AS is a good corner, can't argue that, but it's not like Lito is a schlub. Them "overspending" at the going rate to get a really good WR would improve them far more, that's all I was saying.


A WR will help them and I do think they still add one. They can now trade Lito sheperd posibly for a WR. Or they might simply sign a Stallworth or Walker. Maybe they needed to get Samuel before they wanted to trade Lito.

[skindogger47]

If they had signed Fitz, I'd be worried. They just picked up a player that they didn't need. Samuel may be good, but the Eagles WAY overpaid for his services. They needed a WR, not a CB.

[skindogger47]

All like how all these Doomsday predictions are being made before training camp and the draft. What if Shawn Andrews and Bryan Westbrook get hurt? How good will the Eagles be then? Replacing a 5'10" Pro Bowl CB with another 5'10" Pro Bowl CB doesn't seem like that big of an upgrade to me. Last I checked the Redskins are getting back two top-tier lineman, a very effective 3rd year linebacker, a Thorpe award winning cornerback, and presumably a big wide receiver (please trade for Roy Williams). So yeah, it's not the end of the world for the Skins. By the way that Super Bowl Giants team everyone is so scared of got DESTROYED by the Skins 6 of 8 quarters they played each other last season.

[OWUeagleMD]

All like how all these Doomsday predictions are being made before training camp and the draft. What if Shawn Andrews and Bryan Westbrook get hurt? How good will the Eagles be then? Replacing a 5'10" Pro Bowl CB with another 5'10" Pro Bowl CB doesn't seem like that big of an upgrade to me. Last I checked the Redskins are getting back two top-tier lineman, a very effective 3rd year linebacker, a Thorpe award winning cornerback, and presumably a big wide receiver (please trade for Roy Williams). So yeah, it's not the end of the world for the Skins. By the way that Super Bowl Giants team everyone is so scared of got DESTROYED by the Skins 6 of 8 quarters they played each other last season.

I know I rate the various teams in the league upon whether or not they have a Thorpe award winner. It's my primary concern when assessing opponents.

[twenty-eight]

Pats fans blame him for their imperfect season...He dropped that EASY int

[rm8899]

Hey, look at it this way. the more/better the competition the better it will make us when we're playing those buck nasty AFC teams. every team in the NFC E makes it to the playoffs (unfortunately not usually us) but it i feel in a weird way it helps us be a better team.

[kvarlo12000]

This will make it even sweeter when we kick the sh*t out of them this year.

[tryfuhl]

he's not all that and plays soft. not shaking

Matt Groening is calling you back to the set, Homer...

[tryfuhl]

Seriously, the guy isn't that good. He's a product of being surrounded by a good team. He typically gets manhandled by bigger recievers and is borderline terrible against the run. Save the drama for Momma, it gives CP even more of a reason to knock his ass out.

that's right, because by popular consensus.. speed, route running, catching, etc can be taught in the offseason, size is all that matters, just got that from the last Mix thread, thanks

[CowboysSaintsFan]

For the record, if either Dallas or the Skins gave Samuel this lucrative contract, the Shefter's, Bayless', Carter's, etc of the world would be snickering their butts off.

Either way-the jury is still out-who knows? Personally-I thought the guy was alot of fun to watch in NE. As a football fan-my opinion hasn't changed on him even in an enemy's uniform.

[Skins4ever1]

For the record, if either Dallas or the Skins gave Samuel this lucrative contract, the Shefter's, Bayless', Carter's, etc of the world would be snickering their butts off.

Either way-the jury is still out-who knows? Personally-I thought the guy was alot of fun to watch in NE. As a football fan-my opinion hasn't changed on him even in an enemy's uniform.


Exactly...Thats the way I feel at this point. He is a talented dude with a nose for the football. He also brings an attitude to a defense.

[The-Rock]

I didn't want Samuel on the Redskins because I regard him as the product of a good system for DB's in New England. I could see him coming to Washington and not being nearly as good of a player as he was in N.E.

Philly however has been able for the past decade or so to do a lot with a little at CB. All of their corners and safeties with the exception of Dawkins, Taylor, and Vincent have been guys who flourished IMO because of the system in place there. Samuel will come in and be just as good of a player for the Eagles as he was in N.E. which I really don't like. Hopefully we add a good young WR in the draft this season because it might be pretty tough to pass against the Eagles with the likes of Moss/Randle-El out there...

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

This will make it even sweeter when we kick the sh*t out of them this year.

Just a heads up...

Don't try and fool the profanity filter like that. It's against the rules and will get you banned. *smack*

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Oh, and :dallasuck !