Oldest Profession.... Just Some Thoughts!

[Capt. Kaos]

With all the "working girl" news going on nowadays it provoked a couple thoughts.

1) Why is it illegal to sell what is perfectly legal to give away for free?

2) If client X pays his fee and videotapes the experience is it prostitution (illegal) or pornography (legal)?

This may fall in to the "not all thoughts should be threads" category, but I am curious to see what others think.

Disclaimer: I in no way support or condone these activities.

[JohnLockesGhost]

Color me libertarian on this one. If it doesn't negatively effect a third party, I see no reason why the government should be concerned.

Also, I've never paid for it.

[SkinsOrlando]

Prostitution is illegal because it's more appealing that way, look when I pay for a BJ I wanna know I'm breaking the law as well, thats one illegal load about to go................................................ ......not personally just sayin

I dunno if thats porn or not, I have no idea where that line is.

[redskinss]

there not even youre thoughts there george carlins.

but funny and interesting nonetheless.

[USS Redskins]

I dont get it either - probably should be legal but if you pay for it, you are a loser, imo....

[SkinsOrlando]

there not even youre thoughts there george carlins.

but funny and interesting nonetheless.

care to elaborate because I thought I was being somewhat original

[twa]

I dont get it either - probably should be legal but if you pay for it, you are a loser, imo....


I'm pretty much in favor of legalizing it(and tax /regulate the hell out of it).

I could see where it could be beneficial to some that simply want sex w/o strings or hassle,or of course are into certain fetishes.

And no I've never paid for it.

[outbaksean]

I'm pretty much in favor of legalizing it(and tax /regulate the hell out of it).

Im for legalizing it too, but how could you regulate it? I mean what kind of girl would get a "whore liscense"

[cathartic-j]

Im for legalizing it too, but how could you regulate it? I mean what kind of girl would get a "whore liscense"

I don't know if this is what the other poster meant, but you can definitely have fairly strict health standards -- regular STD tests, requirements for protection, etc. I think we should legalize it, mostly to make it safer.

[twa]

Im for legalizing it too, but how could you regulate it? I mean what kind of girl would get a "whore liscense"

Check out Vegas and it's legal brothels.

On a somewhat related note there was a case in Europe where unemployment benefits were threatened to be removed because a woman declined a job working in a brothel :laugh: ...that going a bit far.

Added

What kind would be a professional prostitute,believe me there are many that would accept better working conditions with just recompense over the present system.

Of course you would still have the problem of those practicing whoredom ;) w/o a license. :silly:

[HokieJ]

I'm very libertarian on most issues like this. If you have 2 consenting adults over 18, then if a female is collecting money for sexual favors, that's just a regular business transaction to me. Never understood why people get so uptight about it. Making it legal would not open the flood gates to a lot more men seeing prostitutes.

[Larry]

Im for legalizing it too, but how could you regulate it? I mean what kind of girl would get a "whore liscense"

Um, the kind that wants to be a prostitute?

[Larry]

Making it legal would not open the flood gates to a lot more men seeing prostitutes.

I was going to say "except for politicians". But I guess the law isn't stopping them, now.

[Raub]

They do a good job of regulating it in several countries in Europe, not sure why we're not capable of it?

[PokerPacker]

Im for legalizing it too, but how could you regulate it? I mean what kind of girl would get a "whore liscense"
that's how it works in nevada. you have big extravagent whore-houses where the whores are just employees, not single entities.

[PokerPacker]

Check out Vegas and it's legal brothels
not entirely positive about this, but isn't it illegal in Vegas itself, just not in nevada in general?

[909997]

i always wanted to be a giglow

[Ax]

The main reason it's not legal, or going to be anytime soon, is because Mr. Politician is afraid that his wife would be getting more than a bikini wax at the salon, if it were.

What? You thought men would be the only ones to use legal prostitution?

They can already get it for free, you say? Sure they can. But the chance of getting caught, or getting some STD would almost be completely eliminated. That would be what it takes for those that have the itch in their pants now, but are able to control it due to the risks involved. I don't think there's any doubt that more men would go to a pro if it were legal. I just think a lot more women would as well.

For the record, it should be legal, and regulated.

[Ax]

i always wanted to be a giglow
WTF is a giglow? :laugh:

[frommd]

This could be just the "money-shot" the economy needs.

[PokerPacker]

WTF is a giglow? :laugh:
man-whore

[Temple]

WTF is a giglow? :laugh:


man-whore

Gigolo.

[PokerPacker]

Gigolo.
meh, i didn't pay close attention to the spelling, i saw "gigolo" since i merel skimmed his short post.

[Ax]

meh, i didn't pay close attention to the spelling, i saw "gigolo" since i merel skimmed his short post.
Happens to the best of us my friend.

BTW, what is this merel skim you speak of? :silly:

[Mark The Homer]

With all the "working girl" news going on nowadays it provoked a couple thoughts.

1) Why is it illegal to sell what is perfectly legal to give away for free?

I suppose you could ask the same question about Redskins Season tickets. :)

[Om]

For the record, it should be legal, and regulated.
Agree on the legal ... curious about how you'd envision it being regulated.

By whom?

Would there have to be a Code governing legal vs. illegal acts?

Would there be price indexing?

Would it be taxable?

Would there have to be "grade levels" assigned to service providers, like the FDA does with the beef at Safeway?

Would the regulating industry also have to assign "skill levels" to service providers to regulate possible price gauging? Assuming Ms. Dupre can continue to charge $5000/hr. for her services, for instance, can a 57-year old bearded lunch lady from Heber Springs, ARK have the expectation of charging the same?

And would she then have the right to sue when no one actually purchased her services, on grounds of some form of discrimination (ugliness, say)?

And if there IS going to be a regulating agency that ascribes these ratings, and I want to run the Interview Division, can I have some assurance that I'll get to rate the Ms. Dupree's and delegate out the bearded lunch ladies to contract employees?

I can see it now. The Department Of Harlotry. :cool:

[redskin56]

not entirely positive about this, but isn't it illegal in Vegas itself, just not in nevada in general?

It is legal in the State of Nevada; however, it is illegal in counties with populations in excess of 200,000. Clark County is where Las Vegas is; hence, it is illegal in Clark County. Reno is in Washoe County, population in excess of 200,000 so it is illegal there as well.

Nye County is the largest geographic county in the State and borders on Clark County. Currently, Nye County's population is below 200,000 so a trip across the county line (about 60 miles) from Las Vegas gets you into Nye County.

For what its worth, I was born and raised in Las Vegas.

[Ax]

Agree on the legal ... curious about how you'd envision it being regulated.
Damn you!


By whom?
A Board of Directors. Preferably with diverse backgrounds that include, but are not limited to, medical professionals, business management, and sex therapists. Also, former prostitutes, male and female, and security and law enforcement professionals.

Would there have to be a Code governing legal vs. illegal acts?
Absolutely. Too many to list for this post.


Would there be price indexing?
Yes, of course. You can either hook up with a cute little Taurus, or pay extra for a Hummer. :D


Would it be taxable?
Sure. And in some cases, tax deductible.


Would there have to be "grade levels" assigned to service providers, like the FDA does with the beef at Safeway?
No. After the laws and requirements are set, the market would establish it's own levels. Places with a better grade of performance would be spread by work of mouth, er um, make that, WORD of mouth.


Would the regulating industry also have to assign "skill levels" to service providers to regulate possible price gauging? Assuming Ms. Dupre can continue to charge $5000/hr. for her services, for instance, can a 57-year old bearded lunch lady from Heber Springs, ARK have the expectation of charging the same?
Capitalism baby. Competition should keep prices in check.


And would she then have the right to sue when no one actually purchased her services, on grounds of some form of discrimination (ugliness, say)?
If she/he can't give it away, why the hell should they expect to charge for it? Just say no, to frivolous lawsuits.


And if there IS going to be a regulating agency that ascribes these ratings, and I want to run the Interview Division, can I have some assurance that I'll get to rate the Ms. Dupree's and delegate out the bearded lunch ladies to contract employees?
Yes, but your wife must sign a waiver first, in person.


I can see it now. The Department Of Harlotry. :cool:
I was thinking more along the lines of, The Professional Institute of Modern Prostitution

[Koolblue13]

The Chicken Ranch charged my friend $300 for a hand job. Nice place.

[Om]

Ax,

Clearly you have put much thought into this. I may have to hire you on.

One fairly key angle you declined to address, however---I'm sure unintentionally---was under whose auspices this "Board of Directors" would operate.

You know where I'm going with this ... we talking state or Fed?

Now you can damn me. :)

[PokerPacker]

Happens to the best of us my friend.

BTW, what is this merel skim you speak of? :silly:
crap! :laugh:

[Larry]

Ax,

Clearly you have put much thought into this. I may have to hire you on.

One fairly key angle you declined to address, however---I'm sure unintentionally---was under whose auspices this "Board of Directors" would operate.

You know where I'm going with this ... we talking state or Fed?

Now you can damn me. :)

Part of me (I'll thank you not to speculate as to which part) says that I haven't seen any Constitutional Mandate for the Feds to regulate "intersex commerce".

OTOH, I don't see any mandate to regulate pharmaceuticals. Or the purity of the food supply. Or, well, lots of other things the Feds regulate the quality of. (And I do admit that, I think the country's better off if we have one, say, FDA, as opposed to having 50 of them.)

However, regulating prostitution isn't just a public health thing, either. There's community standards involved, too. I'd say the regulation should be state and local. (I think I'd go for "state licensed, local zoned".)

(Apologies if I've ruined the thread with a serious answer.)

[PleaseBlitz]

Happens to the best of us my friend.

BTW, what is this merel skim you speak of? :silly:


I dont know, but i bet it costs extra. :)

[Ax]

Ax,

Clearly you have put much thought into this. I may have to hire you on.
Actually, I haven't. Those were off the top of my head. And, while the job offer is nice and all, I know my wife wouldn't sign the waiver.


One fairly key angle you declined to address, however---I'm sure unintentionally---was under whose auspices this "Board of Directors" would operate.

You know where I'm going with this ... we talking state or Fed?
Shoot! You caught that!

The States would have control while operating within a set of guidelines from the Fed.


Now you can damn me. :)
Damn you! You detail requiring...person.

[Om]

Actually, I haven't. Those were off the top of my head. And, while the job offer is nice and all, I know my wife wouldn't sign the waiver.


Shoot! You caught that!

The States would have control while operating within a set of guidelines from the Fed.


Damn you! You detail requiring...person.
Fair enough. Now we just need to get pot legalized and regulated, and we'll all have a monster party. Well ... at least those who aren't too worried about what their wives will think.

Maybe we can get the former governor of NY to spearhead the operation. I hear he's available.

[tryfuhl]

Color me libertarian on this one. If it doesn't negatively effect a third party, I see no reason why the government should be concerned.

Also, I've never paid for it.

You've paid for it, or at least bartered for it, just not as directly.

Basically it comes down to a matter of the government not wanting to go through the issues of controlling health-care around the industry and taxation of the profession.

[Ax]

Yeah I can see you guys now:

Your daughter Buffy or Shaniqua are crossing the stage to get their Highschool diploma and some one asks you what are her goals and you proudly say oh she plans on being a high end call girl, but she has to be an entry level Crack ho for a few months and if she doesn't succumb to Crack, horse, XTC or whatever she'll be on way.

See. Doesn't the idea that she would be getting a diploma first prove a benefit of legalization?