MGS4 (Hands On Reviews)

[Mufumonk]

A flood of info about the game is coming out now that reviewers have had their hands on the latest build. Forget GTAIV. This is going to be one badass game. 1080p 60fps with a 7.1 PCM Lossless soundtrack? Awesome.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/863/863825p1.html
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/863/863842p1.html
http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/previews/173848.shtml
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3167223


You thought Gears of War looked amazing? Think again. Metal Gear Solid 4 will blow you away with its ultra-detailed characters and intricate environments, painting some of the most gorgeous graphics seen this side of Crysis. In motion, the graphics look so realistic that your eyes begin to register the visuals as a movie rather than a game. From what we saw, MGS4 puts its 50GB Blu-ray disc to outstanding use."


The sound: MGS4 has some of the crispest, clearest sound effects we've ever heard -- the booming gunshots will make your hair stand on end! The Hollywood-style soundtrack is also predictably fantastic, and Snake's raspy voice sounds more desiccated than ever. GamePro editor Sid Shuman went so far as to say that MGS4 has "the best sound I've ever heard in a game."


Without giving away too much more, I'll say that all of these factors coalesce to form one of Act 1's most compelling segments -- a tense indoor battle alongside Rat Patrol against the Haven troopers (aka "frogs"), elite female warriors with enhanced agility and high-powered weaponry. If you're accustomed to MGS enemies offering little in the way of A.I. surprises, these ladies will leap, flank, and grenade you to oblivion. You'll certainly have to master some new tactics to deal with this menace, but they're far from being considered "bosses." When the game's ready to start throwing actual bosses at you, you'll be floored.

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[DGreenistheBest]

I want to play this game so bad...guess I'll keep entering contests to win a PS3

[Titaw]

When does this batch come out?

[Mufumonk]

June 12th

I'm considering trading my current PS3 in for one of the gun metal bundles:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/03/mgs4-ps3-bundle-001.jpg


http://www.joystiq.com/photos/metal-gear-solid-4-ps3-bundle-japan/713095/full/

[DGreenistheBest]

I want...I want...

[Titaw]

I am sorry but it has to be said the PS3 BLOWS the crashbox away.

There are countless reasons why, but this game is going to prove it to more non-believers.

[Heisenberg]

I have a 360 and love it . . . despite what many of you haters will say I think it's an amazing gaming system.


However, I will be purchasing the MGS4 PS3 bundle the day it comes out in June. MGS is probably still my favorite game of all time and it will be nice having the Blu Ray player. Any game that comes out for both systems though I will probably buy for the 360 due to Xbox Live and the games usually running better on 360. (Madden, NCAA, etc.)

[NoCalMike]

I have it on reserve. I am going to trade in Devil May Cry 4 for it since I have beaten it.....I sooooooooo can't wait.

[APBT]

I am sorry but it has to be said the PS3 BLOWS the crashbox away.

There are countless reasons why, but this game is going to prove it to more non-believers.

I just bought a 80gig PS3. What games are out that blows away the "crashbox?" I am reading reviews on all the gaming media outlets and I cant seem to find any.

[Heisenberg]

I just bought a 80gig PS3. What games are out that blows away the "crashbox?" I am reading reviews on all the gaming media outlets and I cant seem to find any.


No games blow it away . . . yet. They both have great games but MGS4 might be the first game where people like myself who have really enjoyed their 360's splurge and buy the PS3. It should be amazing . . . I hope there is more action and less cutscenes than MGS2 though.


Never played MGS3.

[StillUnknown]

as much as i love the Metal Gear Solid series, i'm not buying a PS3 just to play it

[Heisenberg]

as much as i love the Metal Gear Solid series, i'm not buying a PS3 just to play it



Neither am I . . . as I was in the market for a Blu Ray player too. It would be stupid to just buy that for one game but I do think the PS3 is starting to have more value.

[APBT]

No games blow it away . . . yet. They both have great games but MGS4 might be the first game where people like myself who have really enjoyed their 360's splurge and buy the PS3. It should be amazing . . . I hope there is more action and less cutscenes than MGS2 though.


Never played MGS3.

I hope so. I have been waiting for the PS3 to blow up and I am a big fan of the MGS series.

The rumble controller just shipped BTW.

[wsniper1]

... I do think the PS3 is starting to have more value.
Starting to have more value to you. I love my PS3.
To the person looking for games for the PS3, buy Resistance Fall of Man, excellent game.

[Heisenberg]

Starting to have more value to you. I love my PS3.
To the person looking for games for the PS3, buy Resistance Fall of Man, excellent game.


Well obviously I meant starting to have more value when compared to the 360. Both are pretty killer systems but the potential of the PS3 is just starting to be tapped.

[Ellis]

Yeah, I beleive this is the year that PS3 takes over.
All the GREAT titles are coming out finally.

I just bought a PS3 yesterday in anticipation of GTA IV and Metal Gear Solid 4.
I LOVE those games. I've been holding out on buying a PS3 due to the price and the game options. But now things are starting to roll.

At the moment, I'm playing Call Of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed. AWESOME graphics in both.

[APBT]

the potential of the PS3 is just starting to be tapped.

...and that's a pity, because the M$ has its new system due out in about 2 years.

[Heisenberg]

...and that's a pity, because the M$ has its new system due out in about 2 years.



Where did you read that? Do you have a link?

[APBT]

Yeah, I beleive this is the year that PS3 takes over.
All the GREAT titles are coming out finally.

I just bought a PS3 yesterday in anticipation of GTA IV and Metal Gear Solid 4.
I LOVE those games. I've been holding out on buying a PS3 due to the price and the game options. But now things are starting to roll.

At the moment, I'm playing Call Of Duty 4 and Assassin's Creed. AWESOME graphics in both.
What type PS3 did you get?? Was ith the 40, 60, or 80 gigger??

[Ellis]

No games blow it away . . . yet. They both have great games but MGS4 might be the first game where people like myself who have really enjoyed their 360's splurge and buy the PS3. It should be amazing . . . I hope there is more action and less cutscenes than MGS2 though.


Never played MGS3.

3 was awesome! The story takes place in the past so you are very limited in options for seeing your enemies such as GPS maps and such. The art of stealth is highly enhanced to beat each level. I loved it.

[APBT]

Where did you read that? Do you have a link?

No, there were discussions with the shelf life since systems usally come out every five years.

Its been the trend every since video games systems have been out. In two years the 360 will be at the 5 year mark.

[Ellis]

What type PS3 did you get?? Was ith the 40, 60, or 80 gigger??

the 40.
Sony is taking the 60 and 80 completely off the market from what I've heard.
And if I want backwards compatibility for my PS2 games, I gotta purchase something. No big deal.

[APBT]

the 40.
Sony is taking the 60 and 80 completely off the market from what I've heard.
And if I want backwards compatibility for my PS2 games, I gotta purchase something. No big deal.

Walmart still have 80s sitting around because the System just wasnt moving. It was 500 big ones plus I got Motorstrom. I havent even opened it up yet.

[Heisenberg]

3 was awesome! The story takes place in the past so you are very limited in options for seeing your enemies such as GPS maps and such. The art of stealth is highly enhanced to beat each level. I loved it.



I'll have to find a copy of that or download it (if Sony offers that like Microsoft) once I get the PS3 in a month or two.



Also the 80 gig isn't coming off the market . . . at least until the MGS4 bundle sells out.

[Ellis]

When I bought the 40, the clerk (total game nerd) said he only had 40's in stock and that Sony wasn't making the 60 or 80 anymore. Said that what was on the market is all there is.

I'm just repeating what I was told. ;) if it's true or not, that's another story.

[APBT]

When I bought the 40, the clerk (total game nerd) said he only had 40's in stock and that Sony wasn't making the 60 or 80 anymore. Said that what was on the market is all there is.

I'm just repeating what I was told. ;) if it's true or not, that's another story.


That is true. They have discontinued manufactureing of the 60 or 80 SKU, due to the fact that they weren't moving very well.

The prices hurt the unit.......

[Mufumonk]

I'll have to find a copy of that or download it (if Sony offers that like Microsoft) once I get the PS3 in a month or two.



Also the 80 gig isn't coming off the market . . . at least until the MGS4 bundle sells out.


http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=281885

[Heisenberg]

That is true. They have discontinued manufactureing of the 60 or 80 SKU, due to the fact that they weren't moving very well.

The prices hurt the unit.......



I knew that had done that but they are still making the Limited Edition Metal Gear Solid 4 bundle 80 gb's with the dual shock controller and the game. It's a pretty good deal for $499 I guess.


http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/15812/Sony-Announces-Metal-Gear-Solid-4-PS3-Bundle/

[cyfar]

Neither am I . . . as I was in the market for a Blu Ray player too. It would be stupid to just buy that for one game but I do think the PS3 is starting to have more value.


There's always Socom Confrontation, WipeoutHD, Tekken 6, and dispite my doubts, I've been been hearing a lot of good things about Home.

EDIT: Not to mention Resistance FOM: 2 and Killzone 2. Hell, I even read that Madden will be running at 60FPS this year on ps3 as well.

[Stophovr6]

I have month and change to beat GTA4. Plenty o time.

[DariusCyrus]

you guys that like MGS4.... check out the MGO beta, it'll be available on the PSN on April 17th... you need a beta code.. those that already pre-ordered MGS4 already have the code... but if you don't, you can get it from the Konami Japanese site..

btw.. the person that is looking for games to blow them away... look for Uncharted: Drakes Fortune and Resistance: Fall of Man... and i heard Unreal is good too.. but i haven't tried it myself..

[jnhay]

No games blow it away . . . yet. They both have great games but MGS4 might be the first game where people like myself who have really enjoyed their 360's splurge and buy the PS3. It should be amazing . . . I hope there is more action and less cutscenes than MGS2 though.


Never played MGS3.
It's lucky that my rebate check should be arriving a week before the bundle is released.

[spjunkies]

I wanted to get a PS3 and GTA at the end of this month, but that MGS PS3 looks sweet.

I don't know if I could wait a extra month :(

[Ellis]

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is the next game I'll probably snag.
I got pretty far in Assassin's Creed last night. The game play and graphics are incredible.

[Mufumonk]

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is the next game I'll probably snag.
I got pretty far in Assassin's Creed last night. The game play and graphics are incredible.

If Uncharted would have been on the 360 it would have been Game of the Year.

[NoCalMike]

Uncharted was a hell of a fun game that will probably turn into a series.

Ratchet & Clank: Future Tools of Destruction (another PS3 exclusive) is also one of the most fun games(and best looking next/current gen games you will find).

Resistence: FOM was pretty cool and the sequel is looking to up the ante....

The entire "PS3 has no good games" hype is totally bunk. It's not 2006 anymore.

[Ellis]

The entire "PS3 has no good games" hype is totally bunk. It's not 2006 anymore.

Pretty much! Totally agree.

I'll admit, I waited over a year to buy a PS3 b/c the games on the market didn't look all that appealing. Final Fantasy XII (for PS2) was originally intended to be designed for the PS3 but towards the end of development, they recompiled it for the PS2 due to poor sales of the PS3. FFXII has moments where it slows down a bit due to the hurting it does to the processor. Had they just put it out on PS3, the sales of the system would've gone way up, IMO. FFXIII is looking to be quite an incredible game. Can't wait!

Fall Of Man is bad ass. I haven't played it but I've seen a friend of mine play it. Looks really cool.

[spjunkies]

We're a month away folks :)

[Spaceman Spiff]

Can't wait for this :)

[DGreenistheBest]

Somebody buy me a PS3!

[spjunkies]

MGS crashed Amazon :laugh: (http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-154393.aspx)

Well, good job folks. We told you that amazon.com would sell the Metal Gear Solid 4 80GB bundle today. And you all listened. Thousands of you swarmed the site, got rid of their inventory in seven minutes, and best of all -- you killed amazon.com.

Demand for the Metal Gear bundle was so high, that the popular online retailer simply couldn't handle the traffic. If this is the fervor in just one store, imagine how well the bundles are going to sell when they release nationwide next Thursday.

[Sticksboi05]

Like I said and anticipated, it is 100X better than the incredibly overrated Halo 3 and the Metal Gear series is better also.

[Redd]

Can't wait to play this game. Was going to wait to get a PS3 until it was under $300, but I just have to play this game. I love the MGS series so much that I suffered through that wonky Portable Ops games.

[WVUforREDSKINS]

Im just about to start playing MGS3.


This just confirms that when I am done with that I am going out to buy a PS#

[Mufumonk]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/877/877611p1.html
From the opening videos to the end credits, the attention to detail throughout Guns of the Patriots is astonishing, setting new standards for production values in games.

The difficulty in writing a review of this magnitude is the constant struggle to remain objective. There is so much good to say about this title and so very little negative that its one-sidedness might seem a bit unfounded to the reader; I assure you I will do my best in giving as balanced a perspective as I can without giving away too much information. The game undoubtedly captivates from the moment you place the disc into the Playstation 3 and does not let up for its thirty hour duration. Following an opening that literally left me rattled, I found myself having to put the controller down for a few minutes in order to properly gather my thoughts. Like any title affiliated with the name ‘Kojima’, Metal Gear Solid 4’s comprehensive story, exotic art direction, Hollywood-esque cut scenes, memorable characters, sharp dialogue, and overall quality surpasses anything yet seen on the Playstation 3, and quite possibly the past decade.

http://kotaku.com/5012898/famitsu-gives-metal-gear-solid-4-perfect-score
This is still unconfirmed as we haven't yet seen review scans, but word has it that Japanese magazine Famitsu is giving upcoming PS3 title Metal Gear Solid 4 a perfect 40/40. Famitsu has only done this seven times. Those other "perfect" 40/40 titles are The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Soulcalibur, Vagrant Story, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Nintendogs, Final Fantasy XII and Super Smash Bros. Brawl. This makes MGS4 the first PLAYSTATION 3 title to get the coveted 40/40 score.

Eds Note: This has been confirmed as true.

[Redd]

Hmm to lazy to read all that. What's the average playtime? I really hope it's at least as long as Metal Gear Solid 3. Oh and is anyone planning to play MGO because I'd like to play against/with some Extremeskins members. Yeah we need to get a list of people here that are in on that.

[Mufumonk]

Hmm to lazy to read all that. What's the average playtime? I really hope it's at least as long as Metal Gear Solid 3. Oh and is anyone planning to play MGO because I'd like to play against/with some Extremeskins members. Yeah we need to get a list of people here that are in on that.

30 Hours.

[Ellis]

Thursday can't get here fast enough!!

[Reic]

30 Hours.

50 gigs for a 30 hour game?

designers really need to start making longer shooters.

[Mufumonk]

50 gigs for a 30 hour game?

designers really need to start making longer shooters.

Gears of War is 8-10 hours. Halo 3 can be beaten in 7. Call of Duty 4? 6 hours. The Orange Box (HL2, Episode 1 & 2, Portal) is a combined 30 hours.

30 hours for a shooter is a really long game. Keep in mind that visuals rendered at 1080p and a 7.1 uncompressed PCM soundtrack helped fill a considerable amount of the disk.

[edgun88]

This is the ONLY reason that I am pissed I have a Box of X. Still love my box though.

[Redd]

50 gigs for a 30 hour game?

designers really need to start making longer shooters.

You can't be serious. Resident Evil 4 was a very long game but the average finish time was a little under 20 hours. If MGS4 can top that it would be huge. Thursday can't get here fast enough.

[NoCalMike]

The Gamestops in sacramento are doing a midnight release on wednesday, so you guys might want to call your local shops.....I CAN'T FREAKIN WAIT.

I have it all paid for and everything.....just walk in and walk out....get home and play.....WHOO!!!!!

[Reic]

Gears of War is 8-10 hours. Halo 3 can be beaten in 7. Call of Duty 4? 6 hours. The Orange Box (HL2, Episode 1 & 2, Portal) is a combined 30 hours.

30 hours for a shooter is a really long game. Keep in mind that visuals rendered at 1080p and a 7.1 uncompressed PCM soundtrack helped fill a considerable amount of the disk.

Call of Duty 4 in 6 hours?

Beat it in 6 hours on veteran and then say that, won't happen.


Halo 3 in 7? Play it on legendary, it is quite longer than 7 hours.

Please don't use the easiest setting on a game and use it for an argument,.


30 hours for a shooter is average, I don't care how many nerds can beat a game in 4 hours on easy setting.

[Reic]

You can't be serious. Resident Evil 4 was a very long game but the average finish time was a little under 20 hours. If MGS4 can top that it would be huge. Thursday can't get here fast enough.

30 hours for a game is average.

I am serious.

I logged over 70 hours in Oblivion, that is what games need to start moving towards.

I just made it to disk 2 in lost odyssey and have almost 20 hours played, and the game is 4 disks. That's what games need to start moving towards.

30 hours is freaking average.

Hell, there is about 50 hours of gameplay in Viva Pinata :laugh:

[Redd]

30 hours for a game is average.

I am serious.

I logged over 70 hours in Oblivion, that is what games need to start moving towards.

I just made it to disk 2 in lost odyssey and have almost 20 hours played, and the game is 4 disks. That's what games need to start moving towards.

30 hours is freaking average.

Hell, there is about 50 hours of gameplay in Viva Pinata :laugh:

Then I would suggest you try Okami. That game is right up your alley. The average playtime is over 60 hours. I feel 20 hours is just about right for a MGS game. Don't get me wrong I love games like Diablo II: LOD that gives you over 100 hours of gaming on single mode but the MGS series is mostly about the story and gameplay not the length.

[Reic]

Then I would suggest you try Okami. That game is right up your alley. The average playtime is over 60 hours. I feel 20 hours is just about right for a MGS game. Don't get me wrong I love games like Diablo II: LOD that gives you over 100 hours of gaming on single mode but the MGS series is mostly about the story and gameplay not the length.

Longer game equates to (usually) better story and more gameplay.

I am a well rounded gamer, many, many games are right up my alley :)

[Mufumonk]

30 hours for a game is average.

I am serious.

I logged over 70 hours in Oblivion, that is what games need to start moving towards.

I just made it to disk 2 in lost odyssey and have almost 20 hours played, and the game is 4 disks. That's what games need to start moving towards.

30 hours is freaking average.

Hell, there is about 50 hours of gameplay in Viva Pinata :laugh:

You're comparing the length of an RPG to a shooter. Apples and oranges.

As far as the length of CoD4, Halo 3, and GoW............those are gameplay times on default settings. 30 hours of actual gameplay, from start to finish, is an incredibly long time for a shooter.

[cyfar]

You're comparing the length of an RPG to a shooter. Apples and oranges.

As far as the length of CoD4, Halo 3, and GoW............those are gameplay times on default settings. 30 hours of actual gameplay, from start to finish, is an incredibly long time for a shooter.

Yeah and unless there was a huge amount of variety in gameplay, players would eventually lose interest.

Here's a spoiler free video (http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~adamesat/Stuff/gekkos.mov) posted by dabookerman from NeoGaf. He was on of the lucky souls to have recieved a copy of the game early.

[Redd]

I'm on a no watching anything related to MGS4 until I finish the game. Even if that has no spoilers I must stay strong............2 more days...........don't know if I can last.

[jthor99]

I have both 360 and PS3.

I currently purchased the PS3 about a month ago and have been very impressed. I liked the 360, but I personally have always owned a Playstation so reverting back to that was like coming home.

When I purchased my system I went ahead and paid for MGS4 right away because it was always one of my favorite games on my original system.

I can't wait for it to come out, so I can start playing it also on that night I will be purchasing a new HDMI cable, so that I can play this thing with sick HD picture

[cyfar]

I'm on a no watching anything related to MGS4 until I finish the game. Even if that has no spoilers I must stay strong............2 more days...........don't know if I can last.


I know what you mean but I had to check this out. If you've seen the numerouse trailer (most especially the Assassin's Solid) video this spoils nothing for you. Although I will say that I'm now ruined and will be of no use at work today simply because I'll be drooling over this short video for most of the day. :laugh:

[Redd]

Offtopic but I hate all of you with your fancy HDTVs that have a HDMI port enjoying 7.1 audio and glorious 1080p goodness.:silly: Here I got to suffer in 720p/1080i through component cables on a 19inch cheap HDTV LCD tv.:mad:

[Ellis]

30 hours for a game is average.

I am serious.

I logged over 70 hours in Oblivion, that is what games need to start moving towards.

I just made it to disk 2 in lost odyssey and have almost 20 hours played, and the game is 4 disks. That's what games need to start moving towards.

30 hours is freaking average.

Hell, there is about 50 hours of gameplay in Viva Pinata :laugh:

Final Fantasy XII.... 250 Hours to beat it and I still had other stuff I could have done.:laugh:

[Ellis]

Offtopic but I hate all of you with your fancy HDTVs that have a HDMI port enjoying 7.1 audio and glorious 1080p goodness.:silly: Here I got to suffer in 720p/1080i through component cables on a 19inch cheap HDTV LCD tv.:mad:

Yeah I'm with you.
Screw all you guys!!!!
:laugh: :mad:

[Mufumonk]

Offtopic but I hate all of you with your fancy HDTVs that have a HDMI port enjoying 7.1 audio and glorious 1080p goodness.:silly: Here I got to suffer in 720p/1080i through component cables on a 19inch cheap HDTV LCD tv.:mad:


This looks like a great time for........

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c332/InSurfWeTrust17/PWNED.jpg

[Mufumonk]

http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/reviews/191668.shtml


Every once in a long while, a game will come along and change all the rules. Final Fantasy VII transformed the RPG genre, Resident Evil helped create a new sub-category of gaming -- survival horror -- and Grand Theft Auto III single-handedly reshaped the gaming landscape. And now comes Metal Gear Solid 4, a game whose potential influence on the current state of gaming is nothing short of tectonic.