Do you exist?

[Burgold]

Provide proof below...


(I type therefore I am is not good enough, btw)

[Burgold]

Six posters have utilized paypal to prove to me that they exist. Interestingly, all sums were paid in Euros. I suppose if you can make a change in my material wealth, then you must exist.

Good thinking.

[Walking Deadman]

No.
I am a figment of your imagination.

You created me just to answer your question. :silly:

[JohnLockesGhost]

Me: Do I exist?

Me again: Who's talking?

[Dan T.]

I just finished doing my taxes. According to the IRS, I exist.

[Tastes Like Chicken]

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o50/msul/ES%20Offseason%20Bash%203-29-2008/DSC03820.jpg

[Burgold]

Okay, that's one.

Taxes are not proof. This government would have no problem taxing the fictional (With the exception of Richie Rich and Scrooge McDuck)

[Teller]

Damn, Deadman, I was casually scrolling through this thread, and your sig gave me about half a startle. That's friggin awesome.
:cheers:

Now, who's the oriental guy in the picture with the Jewish Richard-Simmons lookin' dude. :paranoid:

Nuttin' but love, gents. :cool:

[Walking Deadman]

Damn, Deadman, I was casually scrolling through this thread, and your sig gave me about half a startle. That's friggin awesome.
:cheers:

Now, who's the oriental guy in the picture with the Jewish Richard-Simmons lookin' dude. :paranoid:

Nuttin' but love, gents. :cool:

Glad you liked it....new joker pic that's making it's way around the interwebs

[rincewind]

Now, who's the oriental guy in the picture with the Jewish Richard-Simmons lookin' dude. :paranoid:




Jewish Richard Simmons? I thought that was Billy Crystal.

[Teller]

Jewish Richard Simmons? I thought that was Billy Crystal.

In best Kissinger voice: Nope, Billy Joel.

[Drockvb]

If i don't exist, does this mean i don't have to go to work tomorrow?

[PokerPacker]

I probably don't exist. I am just so awesome that I am legendary. Most legends aren't real.

[Tarhog]

I haven't seen Charlton Heston. What else could that mean?

[Tastes Like Chicken]

Now, who's the oriental guy in the picture with the Jewish Richard-Simmons lookin' dude. :paranoid:


If you check out the oriental guy's sig, the real question is- who's the Nascar-lovin' redneck who is totally enamoured with a Pez wing, NOT Jessica Alba's hindparts? :whoknows:

:laugh: ;)

[Burgold]

Now, who's the oriental guy in the picture with the Jewish Richard-Simmons lookin' dude. :paranoid:


Jewish Richard Simmons? I thought that was Billy Crystal.


In best Kissinger voice: Nope, Billy Joel.

Are you bums trying to say we all look alike? Is that what you're trying to say?

[Teller]

Are you bums trying to say we all look alike? Is that what you're trying to say?

Errr...Umm...I...

rince started it! ;)

[Burgold]

Rince... I should have known. Darn weed addled mongrul who's so smoke riddled that he needs flint and steel to even fire off a synapse.

[sith lord]

Yes, but don't tell the Jedi.

[Teller]

Rince... I should have known. Darn weed addled mongrul who's so smoke riddled that he needs flint and steel to even fire off a synapse.

I don't understand what you said, but I'm pretty sure it was funny. :)

(Oh, and just for the record, I think you guys are less likely to "all look alike" than Asians. BTW, was that Jackie Chan in that picture with you?)

[Burgold]

I was pretty sure it was Kim Jong Il. God, I'm short.

[RonJeremy]

Are you having a René Descartes Discourse on Method type of day?

I used to have those freshmen year in college when I smoked a lot of weed. My first "A" in college was in Philosphy. ;)

[Tastes Like Chicken]

I don't understand what you said, but I'm pretty sure it was funny. :)

(Oh, and just for the record, I think you guys are less likely to "all look alike" than Asians. BTW, was that Jackie Chan in that picture with you?)


I was pretty sure it was Kim Jong Il. God, I'm short.

Isn't that teddy833?

-stwasm


:laugh: :cheers:

[Kosher Ham]

No not at all, I am a part of the Matrix.

[GibbsFactor]

Ah, a metaphysics thread. Define reality.

We exist because we think. All that's to it. We are aware of one another, therefore we are.

[Teller]

Isn't that teddy833?

-stwasm

:laugh: :cheers:

Classic. :laugh: :laugh:

:cheers:

[rincewind]

Rince... I should have known. Darn weed addled mongrul who's so smoke riddled that he needs flint and steel to even fire off a synapse.




But who can unlearn all the facts that I've learned
As I sat in their chairs and my synapses burned
And the torture of chalk dust collects on my tongue
Thoughts follow my vision and dance in the sun
All my vasoconstrictors they come slowly undone
Can't this wait till I'm old? Can't I live while I'm young?

[MurrayH81]

No I don't. I am just your conscience!

[outbaksean]

I probably exist in my one reality, but I definitely do not exist in many billions of other realities, so therefore statistically speaking, 1/100000000 = 0 (after rounding)
Therefore I do not exist

[georgiaredskin]

Marcus Washington called me on my cellphone on June 10, 2007 at 5:27 pm from Renaldo Wynn's car show.
(i.e. Marcus called me, therefore I am.)









So YES, I exist. Happily. :)











:helmet:

[No_Pressure]

No. I am a figment of everyone's imagination and I'm not really here. The mere presence of my words is evidence that whoever sees this has a mental illness festering inside their skull. Maybe they are aware of it, but probably not. After all, do most people that are crazy actually think they are crazy? Even the ones that know they are crazy think they aren't because they are sane enough to know it.

This isn't actually happening. These words you are reading aren't real. You are slowly going insane, blinded by a mirage of a world that your diseased brain has constructed to distract your consciousness from becoming aware of where you really are, who you are, and what you are doing.

Enjoy your madness.

[mardi gras skin]

Ah, a metaphysics thread. Define reality.

We exist because we think. All that's to it. We are aware of one another, therefore we are.

I think I'm not sophisticated enough to appreciate Descartes. I don't see how my thoughts give credence to my existence. Why does thought guarantee existence? Couldn't my thoughts be just as much an illusion as anything I sense in my environment?

Best I can tell, my existence is no more certain than objects that do not think.

[ECU-ALUM]

I have a 4 year old who is asking me to help him with one of his computer games.

[JohnLockesGhost]

I think I'm not sophisticated enough to appreciate Descartes. I don't see how my thoughts give credence to my existence. Why does thought guarantee existence? Couldn't my thoughts be just as much an illusion as anything I sense in my environment?

Best I can tell, my existence is no more certain than objects that do not think.

As Decartes would argue, even if everything you see, taste, touch, smell and hear is an illusion brought to you by a Great Deceiver, there still has to be a you to be deceived. Like the Matrix. :)

[outbaksean]

Descartes goes into a bar. The bartender says, "Would you like a beer?" Descartes replies, "I think not". *POOF*, he disappears.

[Enter Apotheosis]

Ah, a metaphysics thread. Define reality.

We exist because we think. All that's to it. We are aware of one another, therefore we are.

Are you actually thinking, though? It may very well be possible that I thought you up. Your thoughts, feelings, and perceived physical presence may very well be a simple function of my own desire to have someone to argue with on ES. Your supposed awareness of me is a mere reflection of my own (subconcious) awareness of you as a product of my imagination.

If that is the case then I am and you are not. :2cents:

[Prosperity]

proof is an apollonian construct

[Jumbo]

Why? Did someone say something?

[twa]

I helped create copies of myself...no denying those little *******s.

[techboy]

Even if one doesn't, one must act as if one does, so the issue is moot.

[mardi gras skin]

As Decartes would argue, even if everything you see, taste, touch, smell and hear is an illusion brought to you by a Great Deceiver, there still has to be a you to be deceived. Like the Matrix. :)

Not trying to be thick, but why would my own thoughts--me--be any more difficult to fabricate than my environment? It seems a bit self centered to think my own thoughts must be true when I'm willing to throw everything else in existence under the bus.

[Jumbo]

Even if one doesn't, one must act as if one does, so the issue is moot. Yet neither you nor I are the sole ejudicators of what merits mootness regarding claimed existence. You may exist, but not in a vacuum, upright as a poster though you may be. My view may be as replete with mootosity as your grasp of the matter. We may even share a mootual perceptual experience through this medium, rare though our agreement may be on what constitutes reality at its mootest core. :cheers:

[JohnLockesGhost]

Yet neither you nor I are the sole ejudicators of what merits mootness regarding claimed existence. You may exist, but not in a vacuum, upright as a poster though you may be. My view may be as replete with mootosity as your grasp of the matter. We may even share a mootual perceptual experience through this medium, rare though our agreement may be on what constitutes reality at its mootest core. :cheers:
I knew I recognized that schtick:

http://extremeskins.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2389248&postcount=10

[Reic]

I can't compute -log(3x^e^-4x+5) in my head.

I partially exist ;)

[outbaksean]

I can't compute -log(3x^e^-4x+5) in my head.

I partially exist ;)
dude thats an expression, not an equation.. theres nothing to compute

[GibbsFactor]

I think I'm not sophisticated enough to appreciate Descartes. I don't see how my thoughts give credence to my existence. Why does thought guarantee existence? Couldn't my thoughts be just as much an illusion as anything I sense in my environment?

Best I can tell, my existence is no more certain than objects that do not think.

The illusion still exists. :2cents:

[Burgold]

Yet neither you nor I are the sole ejudicators of what merits mootness regarding claimed existence. You may exist, but not in a vacuum, upright as a poster though you may be. My view may be as replete with mootosity as your grasp of the matter. We may even share a mootual perceptual experience through this medium, rare though our agreement may be on what constitutes reality at its mootest core. :cheers:

Hmmm....


Evaluating....



Nope, pretty sure that mods don't exist. Almost no one believes in doing thing in moderation.


(btw, I'm pretty sure that it's mootiest... Mootest. Now, that's just plain silly.)

[GibbsFactor]

Are you actually thinking, though? It may very well be possible that I thought you up. Your thoughts, feelings, and perceived physical presence may very well be a simple function of my own desire to have someone to argue with on ES. Your supposed awareness of me is a mere reflection of my own (subconcious) awareness of you as a product of my imagination.

If that is the case then I am and you are not. :2cents:



And I am and you are not. So to answer the OP, yes, I do exist.

[outbaksean]

Best I can tell, my existence is no more certain than objects that do not think.
what makes you think there are objects that do not think? I've got a feeling my desk doesn't like me :(

[Burgold]

what makes you think there are objects that do not think? I've got a feeling my desk doesn't like me :(

outbaksean's desk: All right, who blabbed! :hammer:

[Enter Apotheosis]

And I am and you are not. So to answer the OP, yes, I do exist.

Nah... I'm pretty sure you don't exist.

[KNGwithOUTaCrwN]

Jewish Richard Simmons? I thought that was Billy Crystal.


def billy crystal...

richard simmons is the exercise fag

[rincewind]

def billy crystal...

richard simmons is the exercise ***




:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

[mardi gras skin]

Ok, so am I to understand that it is impossible to know whether or not anything exists?

[Kosher Ham]

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

:laugh:

Kids these days.

:laugh:

[Stadium-Armory]

Yumm.. that kung pao chicken was spicy!

[RammsteinSkins]

I exist when im logged in on ES,when logged out....:(

[Darth Tater]

How do I know you exist, prove that and I will prove I exist.

[Zguy28]

If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?

[zoony]

only on the weekends

[techboy]

Yet neither you nor I are the sole ejudicators of what merits mootness regarding claimed existence. You may exist, but not in a vacuum, upright as a poster though you may be. My view may be as replete with mootosity as your grasp of the matter. We may even share a mootual perceptual experience through this medium, rare though our agreement may be on what constitutes reality at its mootest core. :cheers:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/DarkWillowRaven/cow.jpg

Moo.

[techboy]

http://virtual.yosemite.cc.ca.us/ghayes/images/Dsc00141_Closeup_of_Highland_Cow.jpg

emoo.

[Jumbo]

Now that was golden.

[GibbsFactor]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[China]

Well either I exist or my wife is using a super realistic flesh like dildo/blowup doll. You'll have to ask her which it is.

[ldysknzfn1]

I evidently exist. My daughter says she shouldn't accept a job that pays less than $6.50/hr at a fast food restaurant b/c she has "experience" from her other copious amounts of jobs (2:doh: ). She says she 's not working for less than minimum wage...so I proceed to tell her..."but you're making 0 dollars right now"...and she says..."yes..and that's not minimum wage"...I say.."yes..I know..it's less"...and then she asks me for money...and I give it to her:doh: . So there's your proof..only a fool that exists would do such tomfoolery!

[motorhead]

Well either I exist or my wife is using a super realistic flesh like dildo/blowup doll. You'll have to ask her which it is.

I am guessing the blowup doll but,Pm me her cell number. :D
and pics of her not your dildo or blowup doll. If she really exists.

[SpringfieldSkins]

Before you ask someone to prove that they do exist, you should ask them to prove that they don't. If one cannot prove that we don't exist then you could only conclude that we do exist.


That's just my perspective on the subject. I think you would find more factual evidence out there to support a proven theory that we do actually exist. Trying to prove that we don't would be a much more difficult task.

[DeanCollins]

I exist only to kill burgold threads :nutkick:

[Burgold]

Using qualative analysis, 4 people in this thread have definatively proven their existance. Strangely enough, two did so by denying it. I may have to rework my theorrms.

Dean Collins I'm almost certain does not exist since the initials of his name represent Washington and evokes the name of a drink and because of that makes me think of Dean Martin. Given that DC is a DC sports fan and a drink related to Dean Martin, I can only surmise the Dean Collins is the quintessential spirit of Washington. AND since the quintessential spirit of Washington can not live in Florida and I do not believe in Ghosts.

Dean Collins without question does not exist.

[Burgold]

http://virtual.yosemite.cc.ca.us/ghayes/images/Dsc00141_Closeup_of_Highland_Cow.jpg

emoo.

That's a great picture. :laugh:

[Burgold]

I evidently exist. My daughter says she shouldn't accept a job that pays less than $6.50/hr at a fast food restaurant b/c she has "experience" from her other copious amounts of jobs (2:doh: ). She says she 's not working for less than minimum wage...so I proceed to tell her..."but you're making 0 dollars right now"...and she says..."yes..and that's not minimum wage"...I say.."yes..I know..it's less"...and then she asks me for money...and I give it to her:doh: . So there's your proof..only a fool that exists would do such tomfoolery!

In my studies, I have seen many cultures depend on their subsistance and survival from a false idol or diety. Given this, your daughter depending on your benevolence and cash does not prove your existance, although... it does affirm hers.

The foolishness part of the equation does generate some interesting outliers that suggest that you may have existed at one time.

[Burgold]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

smiley faces giving me the finger can only be divine. Since I am not an atheist, I must conclude not only that you exist but that you are beloved by God.

[gbear]

Sometimes I wonder if I'm only a blip in God's imagination...then I realize that I'm not sure if I believe in God(s) much less one(s) With whom I would register that much ;) .

Other times I just think back to the quote of "Ultimately we all live and die as we dream, alone in our own minds." That quote used to make me a bit sad or lonely pondering its truthfulness. Now it's just kind of a reminder to control this dream called life. It need not be a nightmare, and even if I'm alone in my thoughts my thoughts can influence others' experience which I find kind of cool.

[Zguy28]

Forty-two.

[Heavens Safety 21]

My bills say I exist!

[outbaksean]

My bills say I exist!
dead people get bills all the time

[Thiebear]

I helped create copies of myself...no denying those little *******s.

I was going to say: I've created life..

Did you just finish watching "Horton hears a who" ?

[techboy]

Burgold, I refuse to answer this question seriously, until you prove that you exist. I'm not wasting my time arguing with a figment of my imagination.

And, to those of you laughing at the poor cow, shame on you! His parents don't understand him, and your scorn isn't helping. He might start cutting himself again...

[Heavens Safety 21]

dead people get bills all the time


haha...well whatever! I exist.

[Kosher Ham]

Burgold, I refuse to answer this question seriously, until you prove that you exist. I'm not wasting my time arguing with a figment of my imagination.



But you will argue for one ?

[Burgold]

Burgold, I refuse to answer this question seriously, until you prove that you exist. I'm not wasting my time arguing with a figment of my imagination.

And, to those of you laughing at the poor cow, shame on you! His parents don't understand him, and your scorn isn't helping. He might start cutting himself again...

My proof of existance is unquestionable.

Yours is on the teetering edge of oblivion. After all, many believers of religion believe that the next world is more real, more substantial, more relevant that this one. That the actions, thoughts and accomplishments of this world are in fact irrelevent. If this is so, then all people who believe so must be irrelevent and not exist.

Besides, Tastes Like Chicken already proved I exist and that existance was seconded by Rince and HH. Now, my identity is still in question but not my existance. Finally, the fact that you seek answers from me and expect answers from me substantiates my existance.

[Thiebear]

“Mr. Mayor! Mr. Mayor!” Horton called. “Mr. Mayor!
You’ve got to prove that you really are there!
So call a big meeting. Get everyone out.
Make every Who holler! Make every Who shout!
Make every Who scream! If you don’t, every Who
Is going to end up in a Beezle-Nut stew!”

And, down on the dust speck, the scared little Mayor
Quick called a big meeting in Who-ville Town Square.
And his people cried loudly. They cried out in fear:
“We are here! We are here! We are here!”

The elephant smiled: “That was clear as a bell.
You Kangaroos surely heard that very well.”
“All I heard,” snapped the big kangaroo, “Was the breeze,
And the faint sound of wind through the far-distant trees.
I heard no small voices. And you didn’t either.”
And the you kangaroo in her pouch said, “Me, neither.”

“Grab him!” they shouted. “And cage the big dope!
Lasso his stomach with ten miles of rope!
Tie the knots tight so he’ll never shake lose!
Then dunk that dumb speck in the Beezle-Nut juice!”


Horton fought back with great vigor and vim
But the Wickersham gang was too many for him.
They beat him! They mauled him! They started to haul
Him into his cage! But he managed to call
To the Mayor: “Don’t give up! I believe in you all
A person’s a person, no matter how small!
And you very small persons will not have to die
If you make yourselves heard! So come on, now, and TRY!”

The Mayor grabbed a tom-tom. He started to smack it.
And, all over Who-ville, they whooped up a racked.
They rattled tie kettles! They beat on brass pans,
On garbage pail tops and old cranberry cans!
They blew on bazooka and blasted great toots
On clarinets, oom-pahs and boom-pahs and flutes!

Great gusts of loud racket rang high through the air.
They rattled and shook the whole sky! And the Mayor
Called up through the howling mad hullabaloo:
“Hey Horton! Hows this? Is our sound coming through?”

And Horton called back, “I can hear you just fine.
But the kangaroos’ ears aren’t as strong, quite, as mine.
They don’t hear a thing! Are you sure all you boys
Are doing their best? Are they ALL making noise?
Are you sure every Who down in Who-ville is working?
Quick! Look through your town! Is there anyone shirking?”

Through the town rushed the Mayor, From the east to the west.
But everyone seemed to be doing his best.
Everyone seemed to be yapping or yipping!
Everyone seemed to be beeping or bipping!
But it wasn’t enough, all this ruckus and roar!
He HAD to find someone to help him make more.
He raced through each building! He searched floor-to-floor!

And, just as he felt he was getting nowhere,
And almost about to give up in despair,
He suddenly burst through a door and that Mayor
Discovered one shirker! Quite hidden away
In the Fairfax Apartments (Apartment 12-J)
A very small, very small shirker named Jo-Jo
was standing, just standing, and bouncing a Yo-Yo!
Not making a sound! Not a yipp! Not a chirp!
And the Mayor rushed inside and he grabbed the young twerp!

And he climbed with the lad up the Eiffelberg Tower.
“This,” cried the Mayor, “is your towns darkest hour!
The time for all Whos who have blood that is red
To come to the aid of their country!” he said.
“We’ve GOT to make noises in greater amounts!
So, open your mouth, lad! For every voice counts!”

Thus he spoke as he climbed. When they got to the top,
The lad cleared his throat and he shouted out, “YOPP!”

And that Yopp…
That one small, extra Yopp put it over!
Finally, at last! From that speck on that clover
Their voices were heard! They rang out clear and clean.
And the elephant smiled. “Do you see what I mean?…
They’ve proved they ARE persons, no matter how small.
And their whole world was saved by the smallest of All!”

“How true! Yes, how true,” said the big kangaroo.
“And, from now on, you know what I’m planning to do?…
From now on, I’m going to protect them with you!”
And the young kangaroo in her pouch said…
“…ME, TOO!”





See: I'm the slacker in Fairfax.. Proof...

[China]

[First Man:] I think, I think I am, therefore I am, I think.

[Establishment:] Of course you are my bright little star,
I've miles
And miles
Of files
Pretty files of your forefather's fruit
and now to suit our
great computer,
You're magnetic ink.

[First Man:] I'm more than that, I know I am, at least, I think I must
be.

[Inner Man:] There you go man, keep as cool as you can.
Face piles
And piles
Of trials
With smiles.
It riles them to believe
that you perceive
the web they weave
And keep on thinking free.

[KAOSkins]

"I" am in here somwhere. :)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/keitho123/brain2.jpg

[jujuskinsfan]

I hope so.

[Jumbo]

[First Man:] I think, I think I am, therefore I am, I think.


[Establishment:] Of course you are my bright little star,
I've miles
And miles
Of files
Pretty files of your forefather's fruit
and now to suit our
great computer,
You're magnetic ink.

[First Man:] I'm more than that, I know I am, at least, I think I must
be.

[Inner Man:] There you go man, keep as cool as you can.
Face piles
And piles
Of trials
With smiles.
It riles them to believe
that you perceive
the web they weave
And keep on thinking free.




At Paul Allen's (Microsoft #2) "Experience Music Project" rock and roll museum/exhibit in Seattle, they have Justin Hayward's hair shellacked and on dispaly. It's beautiful.