O's vs. White Sox 4/16-17

[TheDoyler23]

Adam Loewen Vs. Jose Contreras 7:05

Jeremy Guthrie Vs. Gavin Floyd 7:05

Another 2 game set.

Hopefully Loewen can put it together and give us 7 strong.

Tonight's lineup:

Brian Roberts - 2B
Melvin Mora - 3B
Nick Markakis - RF
Kevin Millar - 1B
Aubrey Huff - DH
Luke Scott - LF
Adam Jones - CF
Ramon Hernandez - C
Brandon Fahey - SS
Adam Loewen - P

[twenty-eight]

Alright! Game will be on masn2 tonight.

Lets go O's!!!!

[GOSKINS_08]

Go O's!!!!!!!!

[skinfan2k]

Go Markakis!!!!!

[TheDoyler23]

Swisher singles to right on a 3-2 count.

Cabrera walks....on 4 pitches.

[abdcskins]

Loewen has zero control. No accuracy.


How many first inning runs are we going to give up today? As Thome bats, I say two.

[abdcskins]

I was one off so far. Loewen sucks, he isn't a major league pitcher.

[GOSKINS_08]

Thome hits a 3 run HR..Ugh

[TheDoyler23]

After not getting the call on a 1-2 curve (which should have been strike 3), Thome hits a bomb. 3-0 WS.

**** balls

[twenty-eight]

Konerko takes a basehit away from roberts

[TheDoyler23]

Roberts rips a liner right to Konerko.... yea, its looking like that kind of night.

[TheDoyler23]

Nick singles. Millar singles him over to third, Huff has an infield single down the line and Crede throws it to nobody. 3-1.

[abdcskins]

Adam Jones loves reaching for that slider out of the zone and grounding out to third. I've seen him do that like 10 times this year. What the hell was Luke Scott thinking? A check swing at a curveball down the middle? They both get reprieves because Adam is young and Luke has played well and is allowed a mistake.


I am still not happy with this team right now, particularly the pitching. When are we not going to fall behind in the first inning? It makes me irate. **** it, I'm going to get some lasagna and we better be winning when I get back.

[TheDoyler23]

Loewen gets through 6 innings, allowing 3 runs--all on Thome's dinger. Threw a TON of balls.

[twenty-eight]

Well that was quick. O's go down 3-1

[TheDoyler23]

Its time for a lineup shakeup. Something like

Roberts
Jones
Markakis
Scott
Mora
Huff
Millar
Hernandez
Hernandez

[abdcskins]

We freakin suck. Reality has hit me like a ton of bricks. It is so apparent. Our starting staff has to be the worst in the league. We have a bunch of medicore veterans(Millar, Huff, Mora, Ramon Hernandez, Payton). I am angry.
I like that lineup Doyler. I would actually consider Ramon in the cleanup spot. He actually has power. But he also sucks.

I'm down for trades now. Roberts, Trachsel, Cabrera, whoever....the future is now. Of course if we win 5 in a row I'll probably be singing a different tune since I am an indecisive mofo.

Orioles, you rip my heart out every season.

[GOSKINS_08]

We need to do something about our offense..Loewen wasnt that good tonight, but we still only gave up 3 runs..We need to score more.

[twenty-eight]

I think we should be starting Moore over Melvin...but he isnt going anywhere

[DCSaints_fan]

3 ER in 5 innings is not a bad outing. Bullpen did its job again but the offense wasn't there.

[twenty-eight]

Rewatching the game....luke scott has a ****ing HOSE! He just threw a guy out at the plate...ramon didnt have to move

edit: oh ****...they sent moore back down

[paige3girl]

Rewatching the game....luke scott has a ****ing HOSE! He just threw a guy out at the plate...ramon didnt have to move

edit: oh ****...they sent moore back down

I have really been impressed with Luke Scott... I think the outfield looks solid. I didn't get home last night until after 7 last night and turned on the TV to see no outs and down by three in the top of the first. I thought MASN had messed up. So frustrating to learn it was the truth.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I stand by what I said when we were 6-2...

We really need to start looking for ways to get youngsters in there. Play Moore somehow, somewhere every single day. If that cuts into a 36-year old's ABs, so be it.

I want to make sure by the end of this season we know everything there is to know about:

Jones, Scott, Markakis, and Moore

If there are any decent players in AA or AAA, bring them up and take a look. We're NOT going to be even a .500 team, so why continue to play the old guys. I like Mora. I like Millar. I like Huff. They are not the future and should be stepping aside for anyone who is younger than they are.

[pjfootballer]

Looks like our June swoon has started in April this year. To be expected with a young team. I agree with TD, play the young guys. Trade Mora as soon as you can, or just let him go and pay him off.

[pjfootballer]

Some of you guys need to be more patient with this team. Remember the Capitals after the lockout? Young, inexperienced team that sucked ass. Now look at them. Division champs and a playoff showing. The O's should have started to rebuild 5 years ago when Ripken retired. We're 5 years behind and the fans have to realize that this WILL NOT turn around in 1 season. It's going to take 3 years. This will be the worst year and I won't be surprised if we finish something like 64-98. Patience, grasshoppers, patience. I know, I know, we've been through losing so much, why should we wait another 3 years? Well, blame that on Angelos who tried to buy a winner for so many years, sans the farm system. Like I said, we should have been rebuilding 5 years ago. Blame Angelos. Everyone else does. McPhail has us in the right direction, and if we aren't contending by 2011, bump this thread and ream me.

[Fletch_Lives59]

Some of you guys need to be more patient with this team. Remember the Capitals after the lockout? Young, inexperienced team that sucked ass. Now look at them. Division champs and a playoff showing.

I don't see many #1 draft picks on this team, so really can't be compared to the Caps...

[twenty-eight]

Looks like our June swoon has started in April this year. To be expected with a young team. I agree with TD, play the young guys. Trade Mora as soon as you can, or just let him go and pay him off.
I'm pretty sure he has a no trade clause....
Some of you guys need to be more patient with this team. Remember the Capitals after the lockout? Young, inexperienced team that sucked ass. Now look at them. Division champs and a playoff showing. The O's should have started to rebuild 5 years ago when Ripken retired. We're 5 years behind and the fans have to realize that this WILL NOT turn around in 1 season. It's going to take 3 years. This will be the worst year and I won't be surprised if we finish something like 64-98. Patience, grasshoppers, patience. I know, I know, we've been through losing so much, why should we wait another 3 years? Well, blame that on Angelos who tried to buy a winner for so many years, sans the farm system. Like I said, we should have been rebuilding 5 years ago. Blame Angelos. Everyone else does. McPhail has us in the right direction, and if we aren't contending by 2011, bump this thread and ream me.

Good points...Honestly, I didnt think we'd be at the point we're at now til angelos was dead. We're headed in the right direction.

Did you get my PM? Did it work?

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Some of you guys need to be more patient with this team. Remember the Capitals after the lockout? Young, inexperienced team that sucked ass. Now look at them. Division champs and a playoff showing. The O's should have started to rebuild 5 years ago when Ripken retired. We're 5 years behind and the fans have to realize that this WILL NOT turn around in 1 season. It's going to take 3 years. This will be the worst year and I won't be surprised if we finish something like 64-98. Patience, grasshoppers, patience. I know, I know, we've been through losing so much, why should we wait another 3 years? Well, blame that on Angelos who tried to buy a winner for so many years, sans the farm system. Like I said, we should have been rebuilding 5 years ago. Blame Angelos. Everyone else does. McPhail has us in the right direction, and if we aren't contending by 2011, bump this thread and ream me.

I'm not sure if you were replying to me, but I think we see eye to eye. I would prefer to lose with young players this year than lose a little less with Millar, Mora, and Huff. I like all of those players, they just aren't doing us any good since they will have retired (hopefully) by the time we're good.

So, my complaining isn't due to our team losing recently, it's that we're losing with old vets (in some spots) instead of young prospects.

Trust me, this year is better than normal. We have Jones, 'Kakes, Scott, etc. in the lineup and some young pitchers...but we can do better.

[twenty-eight]

Tejada tells team he’s 33, not 31


PHILADELPHIA (AP)—Houston Astros shortstop Miguel Tejada has told the team he’s actually 33, two years older than he’s listed in the club’s media guide and other baseball records.

Saying he wanted to rid himself of a burden, Tejada approached general manager Ed Wade and asked to correct misinformation he gave the Oakland Athletics when he signed in 1993.

“I was a poor kid,” Tejada said before the Astros finished a three-game series against the Phillies on Thursday. “I wanted to sign a professional contract, and that was the only way to do it. I didn’t want or mean to do anything wrong. At the time, I was two years older than they thought.”

Tejada was actually 19 when he signed out of poverty-stricken Bani, Dominican Republic. At the time, he says, a local coach encouraged him to say he was 17.

“It was brought to our attention that the date we carry for Tejada, the year of birth, is incorrect,” Wade said. “We told Miguel we were going to go ahead and make the appropriate changes and all the information was put forward. But the fact of the matter is he’s playing like he was 25.”

The former American League MVP was signed out of the Dominican Republic by Hall of Famer Juan Marichal, but he was clear Marichal had no part in the deception. Moreover, Wade and Tejada both said the shortstop’s green card, driver’s license and other legal papers in the United States reflect his actual birthday, May 25, 1974.

The Astros’ media guide lists his birthday as May 25, 1976.

“It’s something that happened the first time I signed my contract,” Tejada said. “I had no intention of doing anything wrong. And now I feel like I’m 25 years old, maybe younger. I feel my legs are stronger than I used to be feeling. I feel great. I have a lot of energy.”

[sith lord]

Some of you guys need to be more patient with this team. Remember the Capitals after the lockout? Young, inexperienced team that sucked ass. Now look at them. Division champs and a playoff showing. The O's should have started to rebuild 5 years ago when Ripken retired. We're 5 years behind and the fans have to realize that this WILL NOT turn around in 1 season. It's going to take 3 years. This will be the worst year and I won't be surprised if we finish something like 64-98. Patience, grasshoppers, patience. I know, I know, we've been through losing so much, why should we wait another 3 years? Well, blame that on Angelos who tried to buy a winner for so many years, sans the farm system. Like I said, we should have been rebuilding 5 years ago. Blame Angelos. Everyone else does. McPhail has us in the right direction, and if we aren't contending by 2011, bump this thread and ream me.

We've been patient long enough. Is it too much to ask for a winning team?

[abdcskins]

Some of you guys need to be more patient with this team. Remember the Capitals after the lockout? Young, inexperienced team that sucked ass. Now look at them. Division champs and a playoff showing. The O's should have started to rebuild 5 years ago when Ripken retired. We're 5 years behind and the fans have to realize that this WILL NOT turn around in 1 season. It's going to take 3 years. This will be the worst year and I won't be surprised if we finish something like 64-98. Patience, grasshoppers, patience. I know, I know, we've been through losing so much, why should we wait another 3 years? Well, blame that on Angelos who tried to buy a winner for so many years, sans the farm system. Like I said, we should have been rebuilding 5 years ago. Blame Angelos. Everyone else does. McPhail has us in the right direction, and if we aren't contending by 2011, bump this thread and ream me.

I agree with everything you said. However, there comes a point when fans(me) get sick and tired of losing. Our farm system, up until the past couple years, has been dry. We've signing aging veterans who can't contribute anymore. Javy Lopez, Danys Baez. And we give them tons of money. I WANT TO WIN NOW!!! 26 years since our last World Series is enough. I wasn't even old enough to enjoy that.

Basically I am disgusted at this team. Which is funny, because we are 8-7 right now. But I can see the horribleness(word?) in this team. Kevin freakin' Millar is our cleanup batter. We need to trade Melvin Mora for $100 and let Scott Moore play. Then only reason Mora is playing is because we are giving him $7,826,915 a year. How absurd is that?

So basically I agree with everything you said and I am just venting. Another thing, there needs to be a salary cap in baseball. I've said that for years. The Red Sox and Yankees are allowed to buy themselves success while other teams can merely stand around and watch. And what is sad is that we aren't even a small market team. But on the other hand teams like Minnesota(payroll $56,932,766) and Oakland(payroll $47,167,126) have been able to compete and make the playoffs. But let's be honest, Pittsburgh and Milwaukee ain't winning a World Series anytime soon.

[Chump Bailey]

Some of you guys need to be more patient with this team. Remember the Capitals after the lockout? Young, inexperienced team that sucked ass. Now look at them. Division champs and a playoff showing. The O's should have started to rebuild 5 years ago when Ripken retired. We're 5 years behind and the fans have to realize that this WILL NOT turn around in 1 season. It's going to take 3 years. This will be the worst year and I won't be surprised if we finish something like 64-98. Patience, grasshoppers, patience. I know, I know, we've been through losing so much, why should we wait another 3 years? Well, blame that on Angelos who tried to buy a winner for so many years, sans the farm system. Like I said, we should have been rebuilding 5 years ago. Blame Angelos. Everyone else does. McPhail has us in the right direction, and if we aren't contending by 2011, bump this thread and ream me.



I agree with this. The rebuilding effort should have started last season. Plenty of guys could be dealt this July adding to our talent pool - maybe some younger farm guys could be ready, particuarly the pitching prospects, and perhaps we might make a move or two in bring in a FA. Three more seasons with McPhail leading the way sounds about right.

[GOSKINS_08]

I feel pretty good with Guthrie starting for us tonight..Now if only he can get some run support.

[GOSKINS_08]

Hey! We didn't give up a first inning run! lol

[abdcskins]

Brian Roberts has not been very good defensively this year.


I thought that was gone.

Second inning runs are almost as bad as first inning runs. Guthrie was a one year fluke. He is average.

[GOSKINS_08]

Guthrie is starting to settle down now..Still 2-0 whitesox, now in th 4th.

[abdcskins]

I predict we are going to get no hit this game. :mad:

I stand corrected. See how my reverse psychology worked right there? I planned that.

I predict that Luke Scott is not going to get on base.

[GOSKINS_08]

Looked like Millar was safe there.

[twenty-eight]

Looked like Millar was safe there.

Yeah it did...

guthrie has some good stuff tonight...but the O's bats have been silent

[GOSKINS_08]

2 run HR for Markakis!!

2-2 now

[twenty-eight]

White sox go back to back. Queintin & Crede each will a solo shot
:thud:

[buenosdiaz]

damn that sucks

[GOSKINS_08]

Roberts win an RBI double!

5-4 now in the bottom of the 9th

Mora up, Roberts at 2nd base.

Come on Mora!!

[TheDoyler23]

C'mon Mora!!!

[GOSKINS_08]

Base hit for Mora!!!!!

5-5!!

[TheDoyler23]

O R I O L E S !!!!!!!!!!!

Mora with a seeing eye single to tie it up!!!!!!!!1

[twenty-eight]

:jump: MELVIN!!!!! :jump:

[TheDoyler23]

Is Jay Payton going to play short?

[GOSKINS_08]

Lets get the walk off from Markakis here!!

Come on Nick!!

[GOSKINS_08]

Is Jay Payton going to play short?

Buck said Millar might

[TheDoyler23]

Nick goes down swinging... we may have an...interesting lineup now. Payton, Fahey and L Hernandez are out of the game.

Would be nice if we had an extra fiedler who can play multiple poss....like 3rd, short and second, hmmmmmm........ oh yea, Moore is wasting time in AAA right now.

[GOSKINS_08]

Huff to 3rd, Mora to SS

Pitcher is in the lineup now, and we lose the DH.

[TheDoyler23]

Huff to 3rd, Mora to SS

Pitcher is in the lineup now, and we lose the DH.

...and there is literally no one else on the bench, right?

If we do sub for the pitcher with another pitcher (to hit) I'm guessing Loewen. I heard he has some serious game with the bat.

[TheDoyler23]

Millar leads off the 10th with a walk. Sweet, the slowest man on the team is on!

3 more singles for a run. :laugh:

[TheDoyler23]

LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKEEEE draws a walk on 8 pitches. GREAT AB!

[TheDoyler23]

...IsweartoGodHuffifyougroundintoaDP..

Lines to left for the first out. Ripped it, but no dice or advancement.

[TheDoyler23]

Magic! Magic! Magic! Magic!

BRING ON THE MOTHER****ING YANKEES!

[GOSKINS_08]

Adam Jones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheDoyler23]

Kevin Millar with some AWKWARD high fives...WTF was that? :laugh:

[twenty-eight]

Kevin Millar with some AWKWARD high fives...WTF was that? :laugh:
emotions....
I'm glad nobody witnessed the "dance" I did when the winning run crossed the plate.

:paranoid:

O'S WIN!!!!!!!!!!! WAY TO FIGHT!!!!!!

:dj:

edit: and I'm sorry i doubted you mr. mora!

[Fletch_Lives59]

Kevin Millar with some AWKWARD high fives...WTF was that? :laugh:

yea, there was nothing cool about that..kinda ruined the mood...LOL

[GOSKINS_08]

emotions....
I'm glad nobody witnessed the "dance" I did when the winning run crossed the plate.

:paranoid:



Or so you think.

[twenty-eight]

Or so you think.

:no:

Trembley is such a good guy.....so loyal to his guys

[GOSKINS_08]

:no:

Trembley is such a good guy.....so loyal to his guys

I was "lurking" lol:silly:

[abdcskins]

I never doubted that we were going to win. ;)


Let's murder the Yankees. Literally.

[Captain 47]

Kevin Millar with some AWKWARD high fives...WTF was that? :laugh:

http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/images/2008/04/17/SWCVSpaJ.jpg

[twenty-eight]

I never doubted that we were going to win. ;)


Let's murder the Yankees. Literally.

:laugh::laugh:Yeah that makes two of us!....Honestly, I thought we were going to get shutout.



and I agree with you about the yankees :evil:

[twenty-eight]

http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/images/2008/04/17/SWCVSpaJ.jpg

:laugh::laugh:

Look at BRob! Cocked back and ready to get some!

[aejm1400]

Another come from behind win. So, when is that 13th pitcher going back to 3A?

[TheDoyler23]

Another come from behind win. So, when is that 13th pitcher going back to 3A?

Jim Johnson is doing so well... Who goes down? Aquino?

[paige3girl]

guys I have a confession.... I fell asleep and woke up when we tied it up and fell right back to sleep.... I didn't know if we won until I woke up this morning. :(

but I will be at all three games this weekend so I will make up for it I promise!!

[Fletch_Lives59]

guys I have a confession.... I fell asleep and woke up when we tied it up and fell right back to sleep.... I didn't know if we won until I woke up this morning. :(

but I will be at all three games this weekend so I will make up for it I promise!!

slacker..:) I actually didnt watch most of the game, only during the intermissions of the Caps game...

[pjfootballer]

Wow, crazy ending. Great comeback!

[twenty-eight]

guys I have a confession.... I fell asleep and woke up when we tied it up and fell right back to sleep.... I didn't know if we won until I woke up this morning. :(

but I will be at all three games this weekend so I will make up for it I promise!!

Aw it happens paige....The game was boring....I was thought we were going to get shutout.

You missed quite the comeback:)

[aejm1400]

Jim Johnson is doing so well... Who goes down? Aquino?

I would send Aquino. Bring Moore back, and Bynum is setting up to come back for Fahey.