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Sprint Cup Series Testing at Pocono: Day 1 - Afternoon Session

Pocono Raceway - Testing
Track Length 2.5 Mile
May 27th, 2008
Afternoon Session, Day 1

Pos Car Driver Make Best Time Best Speed
1 38 David Gilliland Ford 54.742 164.408
2 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet 54.755 164.369
3 18 Kyle Busch Toyota 54.903 163.925
4 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet 55.017 163.586
5 48B Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet 55.036 163.529
6 5B Casey Mears Chevrolet 55.086 163.381
7 8 Mark Martin Chevrolet 55.105 163.325
8 22B Dave Blaney Toyota 55.139 163.224
9 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet 55.152 163.185
10 83 Brian Vickers Toyota 55.201 163.041
11 07B Clint Bowyer Chevrolet 55.243 162.917
12 84 A.J. Allmendinger Toyota 55.319 162.693
13 88B Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet 55.337 162.640
14 66 Scott Riggs Chevrolet 55.361 162.569
15 20 Tony Stewart Toyota 55.374 162.531
16 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet 55.390 162.484
17 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota 55.392 162.478
18 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 55.397 162.464
19 26B Jamie McMurray Ford 55.397 162.464
20 2 Kurt Busch Dodge 55.403 162.446
21 11B Denny Hamlin Toyota 55.413 162.417
22 29B Kevin Harvick Chevrolet 55.422 162.390
23 1B Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet 55.424 162.385
24 19B Elliott Sadler Dodge 55.488 162.197
25 41 Reed Sorenson Dodge 55.576 161.940
26 00 Michael McDowell # Toyota 55.604 161.859
27 78 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet 55.623 161.804
28 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota 55.630 161.783
29 77 Sam Hornish Jr. # Dodge 55.689 161.612
30 2B Kurt Busch Dodge 55.689 161.612
31 99B Carl Edwards Ford 55.690 161.609
32 44 David Reutimann Toyota 55.699 161.583
34 66B Scott Riggs Chevrolet 55.714 161.539
35 15 Paul Menard Chevrolet 55.822 161.227
36 16B Greg Biffle Ford 55.823 161.224
36 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet 55.834 161.192
37 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet 55.854 161.134
38 22 Dave Blaney Toyota 55.861 161.114
39 70 Jason Leffler Chevrolet 55.864 161.106
40 40 Dario Franchitti # Dodge 55.878 161.065
41 31B Jeff Burton Chevrolet 55.899 161.005
42 6 David Ragan Ford 55.905 160.987
43 41B Reed Sorenson Dodge 55.919 160.947
44 28 Travis Kvapil Ford 55.947 160.867
45 43 Bobby Labonte Dodge 55.958 160.835
46 40B Dario Franchitti # Dodge 55.969 160.803
47 96 J.J. Yeley Toyota 55.970 160.800
48 17B Matt Kenseth Ford 55.987 160.752
49 9B Kasey Kahne Dodge 56.009 160.688
50 84B A.J. Allmendinger Toyota 56.043 160.591
51 07 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet 56.079 160.488
52 70B Jason Leffler Chevrolet 56.173 160.219
53 10 Patrick Carpentier # Dodge 56.248 160.006
54 42 Juan Pablo Montoya Dodge 56.253 159.991
55 42B Juan Pablo Montoya Dodge 56.258 159.977
56 77B Sam Hornish Jr. # Dodge 56.258 159.977
57 34B Tony Raines Chevrolet 56.511 159.261
58 47 Marcos Ambrose Ford 56.686 158.769
59 43B Bobby Labonte Dodge 56.687 158.767
60 97 Brad Coleman Toyota 56.762 158.557
61 45 Terry Labonte Dodge 56.825 158.381
62 21 Jon Wood Ford 57.166 157.436
63 87 David Green Chevrolet 57.192 157.365
64 10B Patrick Carpentier # Dodge 57.304 157.057

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Bristol Motor Speedway from a skydiver's perspective...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HPe_RI8gt4

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Tim Brewer says...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d161/nascarartist20/timbrewerobvious.jpg

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Check out "Miles The Monster" live, from Dover - with the Monster Cam

http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicCameraDisplay&county=2&id=65&hb=1&connectType=http

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Tony Stewart's car at testing today...


http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t9/HLEarnhardt8/Tonycar.jpg


More news to come throughout the week.

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Tony's car look pretty cool, for a yota i mean. :paranoid:

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Vickers is surprising me a bit. Just have to keep his wheels on. Will Tony use that paint scheme for a race?

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http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2008/may/27/nascar-notebook-montoya-may-drive-for-gibbs-next-s/?sports-professional

Montoya may drive for Gibbs next season

■ Chip Ganassi won the Indianapolis 500 Sunday with Scott Dixon, but over in Ganassi's NASCAR camp things aren't going quite so well.

In fact, Juan Pablo Montoya appears to be getting fed up with the way that things are going and there is speculation that Toyota men Joe and J. D. Gibbs may be ready to make a run at Montoya to fill the NASCAR seat that Tony Stewart is expected to leave at the end of the season. Montoya was not pleased that Ganassi fired crew chief Jimmy Elledge last week, just two days before Lowe's Motor Speedway opened for the Coca-Cola 600.

What I have heard...
J.D. and JPM had dinner together early last week. Interesting. My opinion: Biffle would be a better fit in the 20 Home Depot Toyota.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-pocono&prov=ap&type=lgns

Pocono Raceway is not for sale
By DAN GELSTON, AP Sports Writer

AP - May 27, 12:37 pm EDT - LONG POND, Pa. (AP)—Bruton Smith’s push to land the Sprint Cup Series in Kentucky will go on without plucking dates from Pocono Raceway.

The 2 1/2 -mile triangle NASCAR track nestled in the mountains is not for sale.

And Dover International Speedway might be out of Smith’s reach, too.

Rose Mattioli told The Associated Press on Tuesday there are no plans to sell Pocono, which currently has two Sprint Cup races, and there will be racing on the mountaintop for at least “as long as our grandkids live.”

“It never was available; it never will be available,” said Mattioli, who owns the track with her husband, Joseph. “My husband has stated that over and again. That’s it.”

Smith was widely considered an interested buyer after Speedway Motorsports Inc. purchased Kentucky Speedway last week. There was speculation Smith, the SMI owner, had his eye on Pocono. If he bought that track, Smith could have moved one or both its dates to any of his speedways.

Rose Mattioli said that Pocono Raceway was entrusted to their grandchildren and they will continue to help run the track.

“They’re always looking here,” she said. “We get phone calls all the time. We’re not interested in selling. This is it.”

The Sprint Cup Series tested on Tuesday and will again on Wednesday in preparation for the Pocono 500 on June 8. The Pennsylvania 500 is Aug. 3.

The 81-year-old Smith told the AP he had not spoken with the Mattiolis about purchasing the track, which is outside New York City and Philadelphia.

Joseph Mattioli, the Pocono Raceway board chairman, brought NASCAR to the Poconos over a plate of fried chicken with Bill France in 1972. In the mid-1970s, when the CART-USAC fight helped cause financial problems at the track, Mattioli wanted to sell until he received a call from France Sr. The two met in New York and France persuaded Mattioli to ride out the downturn and keep the track.

Rose said Joseph Mattioli is feeling better after a recent bout with pneumonia.

Smith did, however, say he’s had some conversations with the owners of Dover International Raceway and it’s his understanding that the track is “more or less for sale.” Pocono, Dover and Indianapolis are the only three tracks on the current Cup schedule owned by track operators other than SMI or International Speedway Inc.

The Dover track serves markets in Baltimore, New York, Philadelphia and Washington, D.C., among others. Denis McGlynn, president and CEO of Dover Motorsports, said there are routinely offers for the 1-mile track. He didn’t expect the Sprint Cup Series to desert Dover, even if the concrete mile was ever sold.

“We have over the years, and we will continue over the years, to anticipate two races at Dover,” McGlynn said. “I don’t know why there would be a removal of a race from here.”

Smith remains determined to get Kentucky a Sprint Cup race, even though NASCAR said last week 2009 is out of the question.

“There is a way, but the main problem would be timing,” Smith said. “We have a short stick here on the timing, as NASCAR would like to get this schedule out by September. But (NASCAR chairman) Brian France is correct when he says I have not asked about a date.”

Smith’s latest push for a race date comes at the same time he’s been pushing for a second Cup race at his Las Vegas showplace. He’s said he’s committed to getting a date for both facilities, but Kentucky is the more pressing matter right now.

“Today, we need to get Kentucky moving,” Smith said.

That’s why Pocono was the most likely candidate for purchase, as Smith could take both of its races and move one to Kentucky and one to Las Vegas.

He brokered a similar deal with North Wilkesboro, when he and Bob Bahre teamed to buy the track. Smith moved one race date to Texas, Bahre moved the other to New Hampshire and North Wilkesboro was shuttered. Smith last year bought New Hampshire from Bahre.

While drivers routinely complain Pocono’s 500-mile races are 100 miles too long, they want to keep driving at the track that held its first NASCAR race in 1974.

“There’s a lot of history here at Pocono and they deserve every consideration,” Jeff Burton said. “We have to be where the people want us to be. If the attendance is good here, then they don’t deserve to lose a race.”

AP Auto Racing Writer Jenna Fryer in Charlotte, N.C., contributed to this report.

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http://www.race2win.net/gn/08/05/ntjl.html

Joey Logano to make long awaited debut at Dover...

NASCAR Teleconference: Joey Logano
An interview with: Joey Logano

May 28, 2008 - Today's NASCAR teleconference, in advance of this weekend's NASCAR National Series triple-header at Dover International Speedway in Dover, Delaware, features special guest Joey Logano, who makes his long-awaited NASCAR National Series debut Saturday in the NASCAR Nationwide Series.

Q. Joey, so many people have been waiting on your debut. So many people are excited. How about you personally? What is the excitement and anticipation to finally get out there in National Series competition?

JOEY LOGANO: I'm definitely excited to get out there, been just waiting my whole life to get out to the Nationwide Series. Finally to get to run, it's definitely exciting. With the new sponsors, GameStop on the car, first time they've been on the racecar, so that's really exciting, too. Got an exciting year coming up.

Q. Had you ever waited for a birthday with more anticipation?

JOEY LOGANO: Not really. I waited till I turned 14 to run ASA, 15 for Pro Cup. Ran the Camping World Series last year. It was like the first time I was able to run for a whole series for points. I kind of had to wait because my birthday is in May, you know, it's in the middle of the season. But, yeah, I've definitely been excited.

Q. There's been a lot of hype and expectations put on you for your debut this weekend. Have you had a chance to talk to any fellow drivers and what they think of you coming up into the series?

JOEY LOGANO: Yeah, I mean, you know, talked to Kyle, Denny, Tony. They're real good guys, help me out as much as they can. I talked to Kyle a little bit last week. Gave me some advice about Dover, about who you can race with, what to do, things to do on the racetrack.

Yeah, they're very helpful

Q. The last couple years the expectations have been getting higher and higher for you, and you haven't even stepped on a Nationwide or Cup track. How do you deal with that heading into your debut?

JOEY LOGANO: I mean, yeah, there's a lot of hype. But it's not because I want to put hype on it. It's all you guys putting all the stuff into it. But I'm here to race. You know, all the hype kind of goes out the window as soon as the race goes green.

So, you know, like I was saying, I'm looking forward to getting to Dover. As far as all that stuff, it doesn't really bother me too much.

Q. You're 18 years old. People are forgetting that you're handling yourself like you're a professional. Are you regretting not being able to be a regular 18-year-old, hang out with your friends, or are you still able to do all those things?

JOEY LOGANO: I'm still able to do a lot of that stuff. When I'm home, I'm not sitting down often. I'm either hanging out with my friends or doing whatever. But, you know, I still have that core group of friends that we can do whatever with. We'll go on the lake, we'll go to the go-kart track. We'll do stuff like that. So I still have a kid's life.

Q. The media coverage is on the radio, in print, online. Do you pay attention to that at all? Do you read the stuff? How do you deal with it?

JOEY LOGANO: I think it's cool personally (laughter). You know, as a kid, as any kid, you would think it's cool to be on TV and newspaper and all that stuff.

But I don't really look into it that much. You know, I don't really read many of the articles. I don't know, I don't really let it get to me. I'm here to race. I have known that stuff comes along with it, which is fine.

Q. But does it not get to you at some point, Oh, my God, how am I ever going to do this?

JOEY LOGANO: No, not really. My goal is to go out there and win races. If that's what everyone expects out of me, yeah, so be it. But, you know, I feel like I'm getting in a great car with Dave Rogers and the guys there. I really think we can do real good.

Q. Can you catch us up on what you've been doing this year other than that ARCA race at Rockingham? How much testing have you been able to do? Have you done any Cup testing at all?

JOEY LOGANO: Yeah, I do a ton of Cup testing. I was talking to Wally Brown, a Cup engineer that does all the test stuff. 4100 miles I think testing in the Cup car. Yeah, I got plenty of testing under my belt. Like to get some more racing, though. So I'm getting to that now.

Q. Have you done some Nationwide testing, as well?

JOEY LOGANO: Yeah, we tested once down at Rockingham a couple weeks ago just to get all the guys together, working together. Me and Dave worked real good together. Me and the whole 20 team worked good together. We kind of got something and made some changes to see what I thought about it so we could kind of put it to work at Dover.

Q. You're getting into some equipment that's been pretty stout so far this year. How much does that really help your confidence level, getting into cars that have already won racing this year?

JOEY LOGANO: It definitely helps a ton. Getting into a winning car is definitely a big deal here. You can ask any driver. A lot of it is driver and a lot of it is the car you get into. I'm definitely getting into one of the greatest cars out there. To get out there knowing you can go out there and run up front, you know, it's not like you're going to go out there and have a best finish of a 20th place because that's all you've got with in the car. I've got a good enough car to run up front, so that's a good deal.

Q. Talking to Bill and Billy Venturini, they said they think you don't know how good you are. How is it possible for you to have done so much at this age and for you not to grasp what you're all about?

JOEY LOGANO: I don't really look at myself that way. You know, I'm here to race, like I said. But I don't look back and say, Wow, I'm good. You know, I do the best as I can and let everything else take care of itself. I'm not going to go out there and brag about myself and say I'm the best thing out there. That stuff's going to speak for itself as far as winning races.

Q. Was there a moment when you started stepping up in competition, especially racing people that were a lot older than you, that there's a win or a moment where you just sort of thought, Yeah, I can do this?

JOEY LOGANO: I don't really think there is one moment. You know, I've raced my whole life. Started when I was six. Always raced against people that were older than me. I don't think there's ever been one moment I said, I can do this. I've wanted to run Cup Series since I was six years old. Like I said, I don't really look at that stuff. You know, if I think I can do it or whatever, I just let it take care of itself.

Q. Going into the next phase of your career, what are the best and worst? What are the main things you're concerned about and what's the thing you're most excited about with moving into the Nationwide Series?

JOEY LOGANO: I'm definitely excited about getting there. You know, all these interviews I've been doing about Dover, Dover, Dover. I'm looking forward to getting to the other races we've got. We have 18 of them scheduled. I'm looking forward to all that.

As far as what – I would say I'm not worried about, but the thing we've really been talking about is green flag pit stops. Haven't been able to do many of those in the all the series that I ran. When we went down to Rockingham, we were practicing making green flag stops. I feel confident we can do it. We're going to a track that's harder to make a green flag pit stop. You see people are struggling. But I feel we'll be fine there.

Q. You brought up you're looking forward more so to the rest of the schedule, not just Dover this weekend. Looking forward to all that, how do you define success for yourself? At the end of the year, what would be satisfying to you?

JOEY LOGANO: What would be satisfying for me? It would be winning a few races. I think I can. I think the whole team can win some races. So I haven't sat down and said I want to finish here, here, here in every single race.

But, yeah, run up front every week and, you know, finish as good as we can and get some wins under our belt would be our goal right now.

Q. Looking toward what you've driven in the past, with the East Series stuff, is there a lot of difference between the equipment in the East Series and what you're going to be driving in Nationwide?

JOEY LOGANO: Yeah, they're similar cars. A lot of the Camping World cars were old Nationwide cars. So they're about the same. And now that the horsepower is, you know, smaller in the Nationwide car, they're more equal. I think the biggest difference is going to be radial tires to bias ply tires. I think that's the biggest change between the both of them. Besides that, there's not much difference.

Q. You've acclimated to the tire change just fine? You haven't had any trouble adjusting to that?

JOEY LOGANO: No, no. You know, when I did all the Cup testing, that's on a radial tire. Kind of ran a radial tire in the Hooter's Pro Cup series, stuff like that, so I've had some laps on that.

Q. You spent most of your teenage years competing against adults. Do you know how that has changed you or what you might have been like had you not had this opportunity?

JOEY LOGANO: I don't know what I'd be doing if I wasn't doing this. I've raced my whole life. That's what I am. That's what I do. I don't know what else I would be doing. I guess I'd be throwing garbage cans or something.

But, yeah, it's definitely changed my whole life, changed everything. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

Q. What have you learned from adults that has surprised you?

JOEY LOGANO: I've learned a lot, you know. I've always spent time with people older than me. You know, when you're racing against people older than you, you always spend time with people that are older than you. Wisdom comes from older people, apparently (laughter).

So, yeah, I've learned a lot. I can't name one thing. But I feel like I've learned so much at a young age, that I'm able to do this stuff now, you know, and put that stuff to use that I've learned.

Q. Was there any thoughts to starting your career at another track? Dover is obviously a huge task to take on for your Nationwide Series race. Any communication between you, your family and the Joe Gibbs Racing family, or was it a question of, When I turn 18, I'm going racing?

JOEY LOGANO: It was pretty much: When I turn 18, we're going racing. We didn't really think much of it. Dover seemed like a good track for me to start at. I raced there before. I ran there last year in the Camping World Series. I feel comfortable going there in a similar car that we ran last year there.

I'm fine going to that place. I know it is a tough place, the Monster Mile. But, you know, that seems like a plenty good enough place for me to start.

Q. Do you hope to make some Cup starts by the end of this year? People are already earmarking you for Cup as early as 2009. What is your own timetable?

JOEY LOGANO: You know, I take things one day at a time. Right now I focus on the next race in front of me. You always have to put a hundred percent into the next race. I don't look that far ahead of me. I'll let that stuff take care of itself. If we go out there and win races, people are going to realize it, and that's when we move up.

Right now I focus on one day at a time. When Joe and J.D. say I'm ready, that's when I'm going to go.

Q. Reading up on you since you're getting ready to make the jump to Nationwide with Joe Gibbs, I know you're still going to run some ARCA races, but has there been any talk maybe trying to qualify for a Cup race for this year for Gibbs?

JOEY LOGANO: No. We haven't really brought it up too much right now. We're focusing on running our Nationwide races right now. We're going to run Talladega, ARCA race. That's what's on the schedule right now. You never know, things could pop up here and there, but that's all we've got right now

Q. With being in the ARCA series, now that you've moved up, is there any advice or anything you can tell other drivers that are trying to get out of ARCA to move up to Nationwide?

JOEY LOGANO: I mean, pretty much when people ask me what do you got to do to move up, you got to win races. That's what it comes down to. That's how you get your name out there and you get someone behind you that can bring you to the next series. You've got to get out there and do whatever you can do to run up front and win as many races as you can. It takes a lot of hard work.

Q. You've had a lot of successes already. Where does Dover rank on your list of successes with the showdown, the east championship? Do you see it as another step?

JOEY LOGANO: It's another step. Dover, yeah, it's been a buildup for a long time now. I can't wait to get there. But it's still another race. It's a racecar. It's a racetrack. There's nothing that out of the ordinary.

Q. You're basically the new kid on the block at Joe Gibbs Racing. That team obviously has a lot of colorful personalities. How is your personality and how do you fit in with the rest of them?

JOEY LOGANO: I'm just kind of a happy-go-lucky kid that gets to drive racecars. I'm a very happy person. I got a smile on my face all the time. I'm a very highly competitive person, just like the rest of my teammates there. I think that's how a lot of athletes are. We go there for one reason: that's winning. We're going to do whatever it takes to do that. But at the same time I'm going to have fun with it.

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Sprint Cup Series Testing at Pocono: Day 2 - Morning Session

Pocono Raceway - Testing
Track Length 2.5 Mile
May 28th, 2008
Morning Session, Day 2

Pos Car Driver Make Best Time Best Speed
1 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet 53.795 167.302
2 28 Travis Kvapil Ford 53.871 167.066
3 99B Carl Edwards Ford 53.940 166.852
4 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet 53.942 166.846
5 38 David Gilliland Ford 53.948 166.827
6 8 Mark Martin Chevrolet 53.989 166.701
7 84 A.J. Allmendinger Toyota 54.018 166.611
8 20B Tony Stewart Toyota 54.027 166.583
9 9B Kasey Kahne Dodge 54.027 166.583
10 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet 54.035 166.559
11 19B Elliott Sadler Dodge 54.050 166.512
12 83 Brian Vickers Toyota 54.053 166.503
13 48B Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet 54.061 166.479
14 18 Kyle Busch Toyota 54.090 166.389
15 18B Kyle Busch Toyota 54.095 166.374
16 96 J.J. Yeley Toyota 54.146 166.217
17 0 Michael McDowell # Toyota 54.149 166.208
18 20 Tony Stewart Toyota 54.151 166.202
19 5B Casey Mears Chevrolet 54.200 166.052
20 17B Matt Kenseth Ford 54.204 166.039
21 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet 54.211 166.018
22 40 Dario Franchitti # Dodge 54.224 165.978
23 26B Jamie McMurray Ford 54.230 165.960
24 77 Sam Hornish Jr. # Dodge 54.252 165.893
25 12 Ryan Newman Dodge 54.269 165.841
26 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota 54.270 165.837
27 2B Kurt Busch Dodge 54.273 165.828
28 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet 54.273 165.828
29 88B Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet 54.277 165.816
30 66 Scott Riggs Chevrolet 54.313 165.706
31 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota 54.323 165.676
32 42B Juan Pablo Montoya Dodge 54.343 165.615
34 78 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet 54.355 165.578
35 41B Reed Sorenson Dodge 54.358 165.569
36 1B Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet 54.363 165.554
36 15 Paul Menard Chevrolet 54.370 165.532
37 16B Greg Biffle Ford 54.397 165.450
38 22 Dave Blaney Toyota 54.410 165.411
39 07 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet 54.424 165.368
40 5 Casey Mears Chevrolet 54.429 165.353
41 83B Brian Vickers Toyota 54.431 165.347
42 41 Reed Sorenson Dodge 54.438 165.326
43 84B A.J. Allmendinger Toyota 54.452 165.283
44 31B Jeff Burton Chevrolet 54.462 165.253
45 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet 54.480 165.198
46 70B Jason Leffler Chevrolet 54.490 165.168
47 11B Denny Hamlin Toyota 54.529 165.050
48 17 Matt Kenseth Ford 54.540 165.017
49 2 Kurt Busch Dodge 54.556 164.968
50 43B Bobby Labonte Dodge 54.564 164.944
51 07B Clint Bowyer Chevrolet 54.579 164.899
52 29B Kevin Harvick Chevrolet 54.583 164.887
53 12B Ryan Newman Dodge 54.603 164.826
54 44 David Reutimann Toyota 54.641 164.711
55 77B Sam Hornish Jr. # Dodge 54.646 164.696
56 10 Patrick Carpentier # Dodge 54.698 164.540
57 6 David Ragan Ford 54.729 164.447
58 43 Bobby Labonte Dodge 54.766 164.336
59 22B Dave Blaney Toyota 54.800 164.234
60 47 Marcos Ambrose Ford 54.852 164.078
61 34B Tony Raines Chevrolet 54.926 163.857
62 10B Patrick Carpentier # Dodge 55.069 163.431
63 45 Terry Labonte Dodge 55.116 163.292
64 97 Brad Coleman Toyota 55.150 163.191
65 40B Dario Franchitti # Dodge 55.243 162.917
66 42 Juan Pablo Montoya Dodge 55.907 160.982
67 45B Terry Labonte Dodge 55.927 160.924
68 21 Jon Wood Ford 56.322 159.795
69 87 David Green Chevrolet 56.446 159.444

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Just got word on Sirius that the 66 and 70 got 150 point penalties, $100,000 fines, and crew AND car chief suspensions for 6 weeks; plus probation until Dec. 31. (Course, they didn't get the Chase penalties...cause...well, you know.) :laugh:

As make up calls go, that's a damn big one. Now if they could just make the bigtime Chevy teams follow the rules during the race, you'll hear much less from me. (And I know you all would like that.) :)

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Just got word on Sirius that the 66 and 70 got 150 point penalties, $100,000 fines, and crew AND car chief suspensions for 6 weeks; plus probation until Dec. 31. (Course, they didn't get the Chase penalties...cause...well, you know.) :laugh:

As make up calls go, that's a damn big one. Now if they could just make the bigtime Chevy teams follow the rules during the race, you'll hear much less from me. (And I know you all would like that.) :)
Dave Skog is a good friend and hate to see this fine against him - his wife Angie was Ricky's assistant for many years. Unfortunately, we lost Angie a little over three years ago to cancer. Somewhere, she is still trying figure out my digital camera. :D I really miss her.

Anyway, here are the details...

http://www.race2win.net/wc/08/05/hcncpen.html

No. 66 and 70 Teams Penalized for Infractions at Lowe’s

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (May 28, 2008) – NASCAR has issued penalties, fines and suspensions to the No. 66 and No. 70 teams in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series.

The No. 66 car driven by Scott Riggs and the No. 70 car driven by Johnny Sauter were found to be in violation of Sections 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing) and 20-3.1.3A (wing mounting locations were not as specified by the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Rule book). The infractions were discovered May 24 at Lowe’s Motor Speedway.

As a result, Riggs and No. 66 car owner Joe Custer have been penalized 150 championship driver and 150 championship owner points, respectively, as have Sauter and No. 70 car owner Margaret Haas. Both the crew chiefs and the car chiefs for the two cars – Bootie Barker and Derick Jennings for the No. 66 and Dave Skog and Thomas Harris for the No. 70 – have been suspended from the next six NASCAR Sprint Cup Series events, suspended from NASCAR until July 9 and placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31. Additionally, Barker and Skog have each been fined $100,000 apiece.

The penalty also includes NASCAR’s confiscation of team 66 Serial Number HMS 12 06 415 race car and team 70 Serial Number HMS 04 08 507 race car.

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The 70 car will be under the top 35 for the remainder of the year with a penalty like this one (343 points behind 36th place now). The 66 will now be on the bubble with the top 35 - only five points from 36th place. The 66 could fall below that line and Haas will really be hurting.

Tony better avoid this team like the plague.

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Tony better avoid this team like the plague.

Truer words may never have been spoken.

The thought of Montoya at JGR is an interesting one though.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Truer words may never have been spoken.

The thought of Montoya at JGR is an interesting one though.

WOW Gibbs likes a challenge!! JPM at JGR could be to many egos in one place. Just a thought.

[honorary_hog]

WOW Gibbs likes a challenge!! JPM at JGR could be to many egos in one place. Just a thought.

They would definitely have a lot of enemies. :laugh:

[Burgundy Burner]

More penalties...

http://www.race2win.net/gn/08/05/jrmpen.html (http://www.race2win.net/gn/08/05/jrmpen.html)

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (May 28, 2008) – NASCAR announced today that Tony Eury Sr., crew chief for the No. 88 Chevrolet driven by Brad Keselowski, has been fined and placed on probation as have two members of the JR Motorsports team that were involved in a post-race altercation in the pit road impound area following the NASCAR Nationwide Series race at Lowe’s Motor Speedway on May 24.

Eury Sr. was fined $1,000 and placed on probation until June 25, 2008 for violating Sections 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing) and 9-4A (the crew chief assumes responsibility for the actions of his or her driver, car owner and team members) of the 2008 NASCAR Nationwide Series Rule Book.

Additionally, JR Motorsports crew member Michael Sandlin will serve a one-race suspension from the NASCAR Nationwide Series and is suspended from NASCAR until June 4, 2008. He has been placed on probation until October 15, 2008 and also has been fined $1,500 for violating Section 12-4-A. Sandlin failed to follow a directive from a NASCAR official and had inappropriate contact with a NASCAR official during the post-race altercation.

Jordan Allen, another JR Motorsports crew member, also has been placed on probation until October 15, 2008 and fined $1,500 for being in violation of Section 12-4-A. Allen also failed to follow a directive from a NASCAR official and had inappropriate contact with a NASCAR official during the post-race altercation.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

They would definitely have a lot of enemies. :laugh:

I didnt think that Busch and Hamlin like JPM. Maybe im mistaken.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

BB you should have put Nationwide Series above that one. Just to make sure there isnt any confusion.

[Burgundy Burner]

BB you should have put Nationwide Series above that one. Just to make sure there isnt any confusion.

It's in the article.

[Burgundy Burner]

I didnt think that Busch and Hamlin like JPM. Maybe im mistaken.

I think the real target is Buffle, then Newman. J.D. is covering all the bases. And Tony may decide to stay.

[honorary_hog]

I think the real target is Buffle, then Newman. J.D. is covering all the bases. And Tony may decide to stay.

Biffle ain't goin' anywhere...at least not until Colin Braun is ready. :)

Greg already came out and said he has no intention of even talking to anyone else. He relaxed his stance a little, saying he would listen to offers or something, but he's just trying to add a zero or two to the magic number.

[Burgundy Burner]

Biffle ain't goin' anywhere...at least not until Colin Braun is ready. :)

Greg already came out and said he has no intention of even talking to anyone else. He relaxed his stance a little, saying he would listen to offers or something, but he's just trying to add a zero or two to the magic number.

I'm tellin' ya, Buff is a target. :cool:

[honorary_hog]

I'm tellin' ya, Buff is a target. :cool:

Maybe so, but he's at 800 yards, and JGR has an M-16.

Theoretically possible, but unlikely.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

I'm tellin' ya, Buff is a target. :cool:

You better listen HH you will be eatin crow if the Biff goes away. Roush has to make some room to remember?

[honorary_hog]

You better listen HH you will be eatin crow if the Biff goes away. Roush has to make some room to remember?

Fortunately, that's one of the things Jamie McMurray is good at.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Maybe so, but he's at 800 yards, and JGR has an M-16.

Theoretically possible, but unlikely.

I've shot targets from 1000 yards with an M16. You just need to adjust for the drop. Money talks and the biff might walk. :laugh:

[honorary_hog]

I've shot targets from 1000 yards with an M16. You just need to adjust for the drop. Money talks and the biff might walk. :laugh:

Man, **** a Junior fan. **** 'em right in the tailpipe. :laugh:

You guys talk junk all day about stuff that ain' gonna happen. But when it comes to stuff that's verifiable, it's Dodge City. :silly: :laugh:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Man, **** a Junior fan. **** 'em right in the tailpipe. :laugh:

You guys talk junk all day about stuff that ain' gonna happen. But when it comes to stuff that's verifiable, it's Dodge City. :silly: :laugh:

Your right i am a little rusty, I'll take your MK 19 and not have to worry about it. :laugh:

Who else is a free agent this year?

[Burgundy Burner]

Every week, I start a Nascar News thread and every week HH starts a fight with someone. :laugh:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Every week, I start a Nascar News thread and every week HH starts a fight with someone. :laugh:

You know those ford fans they got to run there mouths all the time. :laugh:

[honorary_hog]

Every week, I start a Nascar News thread and every week HH starts a fight with someone. :laugh:

Patience, Ken. They'll realize I'm right eventually. :silly:

You know those ford fans they got to run there mouths all the time. :laugh:

Come on man. You were close enough to see all four of Junior's rules violations. Maybe a NASCAR official or two should've had your vantage point. :laugh:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Come on man. You were close enough to see all four of Junior's rules violations. Maybe a NASCAR official or two should've had your vantage point. :laugh:


I didnt even know that was happening. I was pissed when they were holding him but i didnt know why, that was just a general reaction you would have done the same in my shoes. I do have pics of them holding him.:paranoid:

[honorary_hog]

I didnt even know that was happening. I was pissed when they were holding him but i didnt know why, that was just a general reaction you would have done the same in my shoes. I do have pics of them holding him.:paranoid:

I saw that. I appreciated the intellectual honesty. :laugh:

He came down pit road the first time when it was closed. Sped down pit road. Passed safety equipment on pit road. Then sped down pit road again.

Apparently the penalty for all of that is the tailend of the longest line. *cough*bull****.*cough* :laugh:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

I saw that. I appreciated the intellectual honesty. :laugh:

He came down pit road the first time when it was closed. Sped down pit road. Passed safety equipment on pit road. Then sped down pit road again.

Apparently the penalty for all of that is the tailend of the longest line. *cough*bull****.*cough* :laugh:

HH you got something stuck in your throat? :laugh: I knew he came down when it was closed, cause Kyle came down then to. I didnt know the rest at the time. I could tell he was pissed though.

Didnt Betty get the lucky call earlier this year when a tire rolled across pit road and was let go cause a camera man was in the"way"? I did hear some pit crew guys tell a camera man were he should stand cause they were gonna throw a tire on him.:laugh: Dont **** around and get a tire thrown on you.

[SkinsBry]

He came down pit road the first time when it was closed. Sped down pit road. Passed safety equipment on pit road. Then sped down pit road again.

Apparently the penalty for all of that is the tailend of the longest line. *cough*bull****.*cough* :laugh:

Disclaimer: I am not a Roush fan, nor will I ever be. HH has a valid point here.

When I saw that, I said WTF to myself. The black helicopters may be flying afterall.

[honorary_hog]

HH you got something stuck in your throat? :laugh: I knew he came down when it was closed, cause Kyle came down then to. I didnt know the rest at the time. I could tell he was pissed though.

Didnt Betty get the lucky call earlier this year when a tire rolled across pit road and was let go cause a camera man was in the"way"? I did hear some pit crew guys tell a camera man were he should stand cause they were gonna throw a tire on him.:laugh: Dont **** around and get a tire thrown on you.

So Junior "whoopsied" down pit road when it was closed. (I guess there was a camera man standing in front of the pit road flagman.) :laugh:

And then he "whoopsied" a little too fast down pit road. (Note: the in-car camera doesn't have a cameraman to 'accidentally' step on his gas pedal.) :laugh:

Then he "whoopsied" around the safety vehicle (which I watched with my own eyes turn toward the inside wall to get as far as possible out of his way.)

And then he "whoopsied" down pit road too fast again because the non-existent camera man had his and over the RPM guage?

Apples to dumptrucks, my friend. Apples to dumptrucks. :)

Come on.

At a minimum, he should have finished two laps down.

It's OK though. At least if they hand him Dover, I won't be watching. That'll certainly add a year or two to my life. :D

[SC_RedskinsFan]

So Junior "whoopsied" down pit road when it was closed. (I guess there was a camera man standing in front of the pit road flagman.) :laugh:

And then he "whoopsied" a little too fast down pit road. (Note: the in-car camera doesn't have a cameraman to 'accidentally' step on his gas pedal.) :laugh:

Then he "whoopsied" around the safety vehicle (which I watched with my own eyes turn toward the inside wall to get as far as possible out of his way.)

And then he "whoopsied" down pit road too fast again because the non-existent camera man had his and over the RPM guage?

Apples to dumptrucks, my friend. Apples to dumptrucks. :)

Come on.

At a minimum, he should have finished two laps down.

It's OK though. At least if they hand him Dover, I won't be watching. That'll certainly add a year or two to my life. :D

Dont be pissed at JR be pissed at NASCAR. At least he didnt brag about it on his radio. You and i both know that NASCAR makes the rules up as they go. Sometimes its in your favor, and sometimes its not.

[honorary_hog]

Dont be pissed at JR be pissed at NASCAR. At least he didnt brag about it on his radio. You and i both know that NASCAR makes the rules up as they go. Sometimes its in your favor, and sometimes its not.

I'm not pissed at Jr. I am pissed at NASCAR, for officiating based on who he is. (Although he could've just accepted his fate, like so many others in the same situation have done. But still, that's just his competitiveness, so I can't fault that too much.)

NASCAR not releasing its rulebook is ridiculous. I can get a copy of the rulebook for any major pro sport online. They can't make me a legitimate argument as to why the same is not true of NASCAR.

Course, Vince McMahon hasn't released his rulebook either, soooo.... :laugh:

[Burgundy Burner]

Jerry Bonkowski had this answer for a fan (Brian) who thought that Nascar made a mistake...


"A lot of people thought the same thing you did, Brian. However, NASCAR rules clearly state that the penalty for speeding on pit road is being sent to the tail end of the longest line, which is exactly what happened to Junior. He was just taking advantage of the rules.

There was some confusion, though. After the second time Junior sped down pit road to make repairs to his banged up car, NASCAR warned him that if he did it again he would be held one lap. Junior and his team interpreted this as an actual penalty not a warning, and thus stayed on pit road and fell one lap down. After a discussion between both parties clarified that it wasn’t a penalty but a warning, NASCAR allowed Junior to rejoin the race on the lead lap at the tail end of the longest line. Hope that clears it up....and more"

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AvPS3JZ8da611FSQgxymrPLov7YF?slug=jb-mailbag052808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AvPS3JZ8da611FSQgxymrPLov7YF?slug=jb-mailbag052808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

[SC_RedskinsFan]

I'm not pissed at Jr. I am pissed at NASCAR, for officiating based on who he is. (Although he could've just accepted his fate, like so many others in the same situation have done. But still, that's just his competitiveness, so I can't fault that too much.)

NASCAR not releasing its rulebook is ridiculous. I can get a copy of the rulebook for any major pro sport online. They can't make me a legitimate argument as to why the same is not true of NASCAR.

Course, Vince McMahon hasn't released his rulebook either, soooo.... :laugh:


I feel your pain HH. I guess it is what it is. I boycotted races a few years ago when they took races from the south to go out west were, oh yeah they cant sell out. Maybe one day NASCAR will not be run and owned by a family. And be buddys with all the guys who own all the tracks.

They really need a seperate group that makes the rules. I dont really ever see this happening though.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Straighten us up BB. :cheers:

[honorary_hog]

I feel your pain HH. I guess it is what it is. I boycotted races a few years ago when they took races from the south to go out west were, oh yeah they cant sell out. Maybe one day NASCAR will not be run and owned by a family. And be buddys with all the guys who own all the tracks.
Thanks man. :cheers:

Jerry Bonkowski had this answer for a fan (Brian) who thought that Nascar made a mistake...


"A lot of people thought the same thing you did, Brian. However, NASCAR rules clearly state that the penalty for speeding on pit road is being sent to the tail end of the longest line, which is exactly what happened to Junior. He was just taking advantage of the rules.

There was some confusion, though. After the second time Junior sped down pit road to make repairs to his banged up car, NASCAR warned him that if he did it again he would be held one lap. Junior and his team interpreted this as an actual penalty not a warning, and thus stayed on pit road and fell one lap down. After a discussion between both parties clarified that it wasn’t a penalty but a warning, NASCAR allowed Junior to rejoin the race on the lead lap at the tail end of the longest line. Hope that clears it up....and more"

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AvPS3JZ8da611FSQgxymrPLov7YF?slug=jb-mailbag052808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AvPS3JZ8da611FSQgxymrPLov7YF?slug=jb-mailbag052808&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

The second time he got a warning?

Too bad Carl's jackman, who again, actually made himself safer by jumping the wall early, couldn't have gotten a couple of those.

OK guys. I'm done with this topic. Sorry for mutilating the ol' dead horse.

Like SC said, it is what it is. I'll be back with a renewed zeal in a week-and-a-half. :)

[Burgundy Burner]

2008 Sprint Cup Series Owner Point Standings

Following Lowe's Motor Speedway - Race No. 12 of 36
Adjusted for penalties

Pos Owner Car # Points
1 Joe Gibbs 18 1,860
2 Richard Childress 31 1,766
3 Rick Hendrick 88 1,721
4 J D Gibbs 11 1,596
5 Richard Childress 07 1,578
6 Jack Roush 99 1,538
7 Richard Childress 29 1,517
8 Joe Gibbs 20 1,511
9 Jeff Gordon 48 1,493
10 Rick Hendrick 24 1,486
11 Jack Roush 16 1,483
12 George Gillett Jr. 9 1,454
13 Mike Dee 6 1,398
14 Roger Penske 12 1,369
15 Teresa Earnhardt 8 1,364
16 Teresa Earnhardt 1 1,291
17 John Henry 17 1,264
18 Floyd Ganassi 42 1,263
19 Richard Petty 43 1,258
20 Doug Yates 28 1,240
21 Dietrich Mateschitz 83 1,203
22 Walter Czarnecki 2 1,192
23 Max Jones 38 1,131
24 Geoff Smith 26 1,126
25 Ray Evernham 19 1,119
26 Mary Hendrick 5 1,081
27 Teresa Earnhardt 15 1,067
28 Michael Waltrip 44 1,007
29 Robby Gordon 7 980
30 Chip Ganassi 41 969
31 Rob Kauffman 00 945
32 Bill Davis 22 941
33 Teresa Earnhardt 01 941
34 Joe Custer 66 935
35 Michael Waltrip 55 933

Teams above this line are guaranteed spots in the upcoming race, teams below must qualify on time.

36 Roger Penske 77 930
37 Jeffrey Moorad 96 779
38 Felix Sabates 40 760
39 Dietrich Mateschitz 84 757
40 Kyle Petty 45 630
41 Barney Visser 78 615
42 George Gillett Jr. 10 593
43 Margaret Haas 70 587
44 Glen Wood 21 561
45 Bob Jenkins 34 386
46 Elizabeth Morgenthau 49 276
47 Gail Davis 27 130
48 John Carter 08 114
49 James Finch 109 110
50 Richard Childress 33 92
51 Chris Lencheski 150 35
52 Barney Visser 187 34
53 Mark Simo 160 22
54 Brad Jenkins 137 16

[Burgundy Burner]

TV Schedule for Dover weekend. All times are EDT.

Fri May 30

12:00 am NASCAR Now ESPN2
3:00 am 1995 Goody's 500 ESPNC
9:00 am SportsCentury: Dale Jr. ESPNC
10:00 am NCTS Keystone Pole Qualifying SPEED
11:30 am NSCS Practice SPEED
2:00 pm NNS Final Practice ESPN2
3:00 pm NSCS Coors Light Pole Qualifying SPEED
6:30 pm NASCAR Now ESPN2
7:00 pm Trackside at Dover SPEED
8:00 pm NCTS Set-Up SPEED
8:30 pm NCTS: AAA Insurance 200 Dover [SDD] SPEED
9:00 pm 60 Minutes on Classic Richard Petty ESPNC
11:00 pm Trackside at Dover SPEED

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Sat May 31

12:00 am NSCS Coors Light Pole Qualifying SPEED
1:30 am NCTS Set-Up SPEED
2:00 am NCTS: AAA Insurance 200 Dover SPEED
9:00 am Drafting Partners GAC
9:00 am 60 Minutes on Classic: Richard Petty ESPNC
10:30 am NNS Coors Light Pole Qualifying ESPN2
12:00 pm NSCS Practice SPEED
12:00 pm Identity of a Racing Champion ESPN2
1:00 pm NSCS Final Practice SPEED
2:30 pm NNS Countdown ESPN2
3:15 pm NNS: Dover 200 ESPN2
7:00 pm Tradin' Paint SPEED
7:30 pm NASCAR Performance SPEED

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Sun June 1

1:30 am NNS: Dover 200 ESPN2
8:00 am 60 Minutes on Classic Richard Petty ESPNC
10:00 am NASCAR Now ESPN2
10:00 am Tradin' Paint SPEED
10:30 am NASCAR Performance SPEED
11:00 am NASCAR in a Hurry SPEED
11:30 am NASCAR RaceDay SPEED
1:30 pm NSCS Pre-Race Show FOX
2:00 pm NSCS: Best Buy 400 benefiting Student Clubs for Autism Speaks Dover FOX
4:00 pm IndyCar Series Milwaukee ABC
7:00 pm SPEED Report SPEED
8:00 pm NASCAR Victory Lane SPEED
9:00 pm Wind Tunnel with Dave Despain SPEED
10:00 pm Drafting Partners GAC

[Burgundy Burner]

Here are the cams from Dover - four of them and they update every 33 seconds. Also, live weather radar for the mid-Atlantic and live cams from Delaware and New Jersey beaches.

http://www.experiencenascar.com/garage.html

[SkinsBry]

Dover shareholder wants racetrack company to sell
By David Caraviello, NASCAR.COM
May 30, 2008
09:43 AM EDT

DOVER, Del. -- Dover International Speedway's largest outside shareholder wants the racetrack's assets to be sold, with the Monster Mile possibly becoming part of Bruton Smith's empire at Speedway Motorsports Inc.

Mario Cibelli, founder and managing partner of Marathon Partners, a New York-based investment group, sent a letter to the board of directors of Dover Motorsports Inc. on Thursday urging the company to divest itself of its racing properties. In Cibelli's view, the recent purchases by SMI of speedways in Kentucky and New Hampshire mean the time is right to sell a Dover facility whose stock price has fallen 20 percent since racing and casino operations were split six years ago.

"The days of the independent NASCAR track owners have all but passed," Cibelli wrote in a letter faxed and express mailed to board members. "Dover Motorsports will never be able to achieve the operating performance of International Speedway Corporation and Speedway Motorsports Inc. The combined strength of the industry leaders leaves the company at a permanent competitive disadvantage in regards to sponsorship dollars, operating margins and infrastructure. It is simply not possible for a single Sprint Cup series track to produce the results of a large portfolio of similar tracks. More time and additional patience cannot change this fact. Both ISC and SMI can operate the Monster Mile more profitably than Dover Motorsports will ever be able to."

Dover also owns Nationwide Series tracks in Nashville, Memphis and St. Louis, facilities Cibelli has been told lose a cumulative $6 million a year. At worst, he wants what he calls the company's "Midwest tracks" sold off. At best, he urges the hiring of an advisor to facilitate a competitive auction that would sell all the company's assets, including the 135,000-seat facility in the Delaware capital.

click link for the rest.
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/05/30/dover.possible.sale/index.html


This is what Bruton Smith wants. He'll take a race from Dover and one from New Hampshire and give them to Kentucky and Las Vegas. It seems to me to be a waste to have one race at Dover a year.

[SkinsBry]

Sadler inks extension, says GEM 'where I want to race'
By Team Release
May 29, 2008
02:57 PM EDT

STATESVILLE, N.C. -- Gillett Evernham Motorsports on Thursday announced a multi-year contract extension with driver Elliott Sadler.

"Elliott is a well respected driver who has the skills, both on and off the track, to succeed in NASCAR," CEO Tom Reddin said.

"In addition to being a great Sprint Cup driver, Elliott has a wonderful personality that attracts fans and sponsors who love working with him. We have enjoyed working with Elliott over the last year and a half and look forward to continuing our relationship."

click link for the rest.
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/05/29/esadler.gem.extension/index.html

Good for him. With Khane finding a couple wins lately, maybe GEM will put Sadler in Victory Lane soon. He's a good guy and it be good to see him get a few more wins.

[Burgundy Burner]

SkinsBry - thanks for posting some articles today. I've been doing the doctor visit stuff today and other things related to it.

[SkinsBry]

SkinsBry - thanks for posting some articles today. I've been doing the doctor visit stuff today and other things related to it.

No problem, I post 'em when I can, if you don't beat me to it. :cheers:

I've been watching practice today and Joey "Sliced Bread" Lagano was second fastest in NNS practice. I wanna see what he does tomorrow.

[SkinsBry]

Elliott to be inducted in Atlanta Sports Hall of Fame
By NASCAR.COM
May 30, 2008
03:04 PM EDT

Bill Elliott will be inducted into the Atlanta Sports Hall of Fame on Saturday. The hall is dedicated to honoring Atlanta's sports heroes, and prior inductees include Hank Aaron, Evander Holyfield, Phil Niekro and Dominique Wilkins.

On Friday, Elliott will practice and qualify the No. 21 Wood Brothers Ford at Dover. He will fly to Atlanta on Saturday immediately following the Sprint Cup Series final practice. After the induction ceremony he will return to Dover to compete in the Best Buy 400 on Sunday.

Bill Elliott
Years 33
Races 781
Wins 44
Top-fives 175
Top-10s 320
Poles 55
Avg. Start 14.1
Avg. Finish 15.8
Earnings $41,319,848

This year's list of inductees also includes Steve Bartkowski (Atlanta Falcons all-time passing leader), Claude Humphrey (Atlanta Falcons six-time Pro Bowler), Edwin Moses (four-time Olympic and world gold medalist), John Schuerholz (Atlanta Braves general manager from 1990 to 2007), and Louise Suggs (LPGA founder and winner of 58 LPGA tournaments).

"Bill is a true champion and a true family friend," team co-owner Eddie Wood said. "It's no wonder he has been inducted to multiple halls of fame and voted NASCAR's most popular driver 16 times. We are blessed to have a person like Bill working with us."

click link for the rest.
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlines/cup/05/30/belliott.atlanta.hall.of.fame/index.html

[SkinsBry]

NCTS RACE LINEUP
AAA Insurance 200 | Dover International Speedway
May 30, 2008 | Race 8 of 25


POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 5 Mike Skinner Toyota Toyota Tundra 155.407 23.165 Leader
2 23 Johnny Benson Toyota Toyota Certified Used Vehicles 155.206 23.195 -0.030
3 51 Kyle Busch Toyota Miccosukee Resort & Gaming/NOS Energy Drink 155.166 23.201 -0.036
4 22 Scott Speed* Toyota Red Bull 154.859 23.247 -0.082
5 33 Ron Hornaday Chevrolet Camping World/RVs.com 153.512 23.451 -0.286
6 2 Jack Sprague Chevrolet American Commercial Lines 153.342 23.477 -0.312
7 9 Justin Marks* Toyota Germain Motor Company 153.029 23.525 -0.360
8 71 Donny Lia* Chevrolet NationRides.com 152.912 23.543 -0.378
9 59 Ted Musgrave Toyota Team ASE / Harris Trucking 152.724 23.572 -0.407
10 6 Colin Braun* Ford Con-way Freight 152.284 23.640 -0.475
11 8 Chad McCumbee Chevrolet Malcolmson Construction 152.207 23.652 -0.487
12 14 Rick Crawford Ford Power Stroke Diesel by International 152.162 23.659 -0.494
13 13 Shelby Howard Chevrolet Bobcat 152.117 23.666 -0.501
14 16 Brian Scott* Chevrolet Albertson's 151.892 23.701 -0.536
15 11 David Starr Toyota Red Horse Racing 151.732 23.726 -0.561
16 88 Matt Crafton Chevrolet Pittsburgh Paints / Menards 151.515 23.760 -0.595
17 40 Chad Chaffin Chevrolet Key Motorsports 151.273 23.798 -0.633
18 99 Erik Darnell Ford Northern Tool + Equipment 151.254 23.801 -0.636
19 15 Shane Sieg Toyota Miccosukee Resort & Gaming 151.134 23.820 -0.655
20 09 Travis Kvapil Ford Zaxby's 151.121 23.822 -0.657
21 30 Todd Bodine Toyota Lumber Liquidators 150.697 23.889 -0.724
22 07 Ryan Lawler Chevrolet Manheim's Dealers Auto Auction of Dallas 150.577 23.908 -0.743
23 60 Terry Cook Toyota wyler.com 150.539 23.914 -0.749
24 46 Landon Cassill Chevrolet GoDaddy.com 150.307 23.951 -0.786
25 08 Jason White Dodge Gunbroker.com 150.125 23.980 -0.815
26 21 Jon Wood Ford U.S. Air Force 149.938 24.010 -0.845
27 10 Brendan Gaughan Ford International Maxx Force Diesel 149.657 24.055 -0.890
28 20 Scott Lagasse Jr. Ford Nicholson Group 149.087 24.147 -0.982
29 4 Stacy Compton Dodge LenStoler.com 148.926 24.173 -1.008
30 18 Dennis Setzer Dodge Tahoe Smokeless 147.771 24.362 -1.197
31 7 Andy Lally* Chevrolet TRG Motorsports 144.590 24.898 -1.733
32 191 J C Stout Chevrolet Stars & Stripes Tool Company 143.724 25.048 -1.883
33 74 Larry Gunselman Dodge Derrike Cope Inc. 143.632 25.064 -1.899
34 73 Nick Tucker Dodge Derrike Cope Inc. 142.433 25.275 -2.110
35 189 Ryan Seaman Chevrolet Lafferty Performance 139.254 25.852 -2.687
36 0 Butch Miller Chevrolet ASI Limited 136.281 26.416 -3.251

[SkinsBry]

Cup Series RACE LINEUP
Best Buy 400 Benefiting Student Clubs for Autism Speaks | Dover International Speedway
June 1, 2008 | Race 13 of 36


POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M 155.219 23.193 Leader
2 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite 153.971 23.381 -0.188
3 18 Kyle Busch Toyota Combos 153.767 23.412 -0.219
4 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's 153.754 23.414 -0.221
5 26 Jamie McMurray Ford Crown Royal 153.597 23.438 -0.245
6 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull 153.413 23.466 -0.273
7 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet DuPont 153.368 23.473 -0.280
8 84 A.J. Allmendinger Toyota Red Bull 152.912 23.543 -0.350
9 19 Elliott Sadler Dodge Best Buy / Garmin / Autism Speaks 152.873 23.549 -0.356
10 40 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge Target 152.847 23.553 -0.360
11 12 Ryan Newman Dodge Alltel 152.782 23.563 -0.370
12 28 Travis Kvapil Ford Yates Racing 152.685 23.578 -0.385
13 15 Paul Menard Chevrolet Pittsburgh Paints / Menards 152.678 23.579 -0.386
14 99 Carl Edwards Ford Office Depot 152.646 23.584 -0.391
15 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Budweiser 152.523 23.603 -0.410
16 77 Sam Hornish Jr.* Dodge Penske Truck Rental 152.458 23.613 -0.420
17 38 David Gilliland Ford FreeCreditReport.com 152.362 23.628 -0.435
18 22 Dave Blaney Toyota Caterpillar 152.258 23.644 -0.451
19 43 Bobby Labonte Dodge Cheerios / Betty Crocker 152.194 23.654 -0.461
20 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker 152.104 23.668 -0.475
21 17 Matt Kenseth Ford DEWALT NANO Technology 152.104 23.668 -0.475
22 20 Tony Stewart Toyota The Home Depot 152.078 23.672 -0.479
23 6 David Ragan Ford AAA Insurance 151.771 23.720 -0.527
24 21 Bill Elliott Ford U.S. Air Force 151.732 23.726 -0.533
25 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet AMP Energy / National Guard 151.630 23.742 -0.549
26 07 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet DIRECTV 151.624 23.743 -0.550
27 96 J.J. Yeley Toyota DLP HDTV 151.541 23.756 -0.563
28 66 Scott Riggs Chevrolet State Water Heaters 151.528 23.758 -0.565
29 01 Regan Smith* Chevrolet DEI / Principal Financial Group 151.350 23.786 -0.593
30 8 Mark Martin Chevrolet U.S. Army 151.318 23.791 -0.598
31 78 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet Furniture Row/ DenverMattress.com 151.267 23.799 -0.606
32 00 Michael McDowell* Toyota Microsoft Small Business 151.260 23.800 -0.607
33 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Kinko's 151.133 23.820 -0.627
34 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Shell / Pennzoil 150.981 23.844 -0.651
35 42 Juan Montoya Dodge Texaco / Havoline 150.823 23.869 -0.676
36 10 Patrick Carpentier* Dodge Auto Value / Bumper to Bumper 150.710 23.887 -0.694
37 44 David Reutimann Toyota UPS 150.514 23.918 -0.725
38 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet AT&T Mobility 150.458 23.927 -0.734
39 5 Casey Mears Chevrolet Kellogg's / CARQUEST 149.850 24.024 -0.831
40 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA AUTO PARTS 149.645 24.057 -0.864
41 7 Matt Crafton Dodge Jim Beam 149.099 24.145 -0.952
42 41 Reed Sorenson+ Dodge Target 148.705 24.209 -1.016
43 34 Tony Raines Chevrolet doorstopnation.com / Continental Fire & Safety 150.232 23.963 -0.770

Did Not Qualify
44 70 Jason Leffler Chevrolet Haas Automation 150.075 23.988 -0.795
45 45 Chad McCumbee Dodge Richard Petty Driving Experience 148.926 24.173 -0.980

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Truck race is fixin to start is anybody going to watch it?

[SkinsBry]

Truck race is fixin to start is anybody going to watch it?

I got it on.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

I like the trucks better than the Nationwide series. I forgot that HH is boycotting everything nascar this weekend.

[honorary_hog]

I like the trucks better than the Nationwide series. I forgot that HH is boycotting everything nascar this weekend.

Just the cup race tomorrow. Although I'll miss the truck and nationwide races too, just because I'm at work.

Soon as I hear the cup race is over though, I'll check the finish, and be in to deliver my trademark "WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" :)

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Just the cup race tomorrow. Although I'll miss the truck and nationwide races too, just because I'm at work.

Soon as I hear the cup race is over though, I'll check the finish, and be in to deliver my trademark "WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" :)

HH what do you do? You are always working on Nights and weekends.

[SkinsBry]

I like the trucks better than the Nationwide series. I forgot that HH is boycotting everything nascar this weekend.
I've been paying more attention to trucks this year. I've seen some good racing in that series.

Just the cup race tomorrow. Although I'll miss the truck and nationwide races too, just because I'm at work.


Bottom right of NASCAR.com is a link to the NNS race streamed, if that helps you HH.

[honorary_hog]

HH what do you do? You are always working on Nights and weekends.

Security for a congressionally chartered mortgage lender.

I've already informed them that I will not be working weekends during football season. Seniority is about to be called. :)

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Security for a congressionally chartered mortgage lender.

I've already informed them that I will not be working weekends during football season. Seniority is about to be called. :)

Pull rank on them. Everybody has their limits. :D

[SkinsBry]

SpeedTV and NASCAR aren't too interested in keeping us in suspense. The winner of the truck race is posted on their websites. :doh:

[BigMike619]

Security for a congressionally chartered mortgage lender.

I've already informed them that I will not be working weekends during football season. Seniority is about to be called. :)

or the first weekend in August damnit!!

:cheers:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

SpeedTV and NASCAR aren't too interested in keeping us in suspense. The winner of the truck race is posted on their websites. :doh:

I hate when they do that.:mad:

[honorary_hog]

Pull rank on them. Everybody has their limits. :D

I intend to.

I've been working weekends by choice because it gave me three days off during the week to see the kids. That's allllll about to change. :laugh:

And yeah, Mike, I plan on making the switch in late July/early August. :D

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Then i had to go look cause i just couldn't help myself. :doh:

[SkinsBry]

Kyle with problems, he was dominating the race.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Busch just pulled a Hamlin. Stay on the track even though your getting black flagged to bring out the caution.

[BigMike619]

I dont see the busch race..aint it tomorrow?

[SC_RedskinsFan]

I dont see the busch race..aint it tomorrow?

yeah, the Truck race is on now.

[SkinsBry]

I dont see the busch race..aint it tomorrow?

Truck Series on Speed.

He even causes problems for others on his way to the garage. :doh1:

[SkinsBry]

So what are the chances that Gordon gets lost in Mexico during the Baha 500 causing him to miss the race on Sunday?

please :fingersx: please :fingersx: please :fingersx: please :fingersx:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

So what are the chances that Gordon gets lost in Mexico during the Baha 500 causing him to miss the race on Sunday?

please :fingersx: please :fingersx: please :fingersx: please :fingersx:

I wish we would get that lucky. :laugh:

[SkinsBry]

This Scott Speed isn't exactly a manly man, but he can drive. Here's an article I read the other day.


Speed adapting to stock cars, but style here to stay
Running ARCA, limited Truck Series with eye on Cup
By Raygan Swan, NASCAR.COM
May 27, 2008
02:11 PM EDT

If you see a driver walking into the garage with a Louis Vuitton man bag slung over his shoulder, you can bet it's Scott Speed.

Here to master the art of stock-car racing and embrace the NASCulture, the former Formula One driver, accustomed to yacht life and casinos in Monte Carlo, is far from a good ol' boy.

The 25-year-old West Coast native didn't grow up in the South, he's never shopped at a Cabela's and he doesn't have a home on Lake Norman neighboring the dozens of race shops in Mooresville, N.C.


Scott Speed won the ARCA race at Kansas Speedway this year.“
They want me in a Cup car as soon as possible, but I want to race and relax and take my time in ARCA as long as possible. Until that time, I'm putting myself in a position to learn. However long it takes, I'm confident I will be successful in the Cup Series.
”
He has a home in Austria, as well as a home north of Uptown Charlotte. He requires regular facials, and if fashion was an Olympic sport, he'd be a gold medallist.


rest at link
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/features/05/27/future.star.sspeed/index.html

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Speed wins on Speed

[SkinsBry]

Toenail :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[BigMike619]

showing the infield and all the flags..

it went

American
Confederate
Dale 3

Its a shame that is seen as bad to most of America.

I saw

American
Southern
Old School Chevy Dale fan

[honorary_hog]

showing the infield and all the flags..

it went

American
Confederate
Dale 3

Its a shame that is seen as bad to most of America.

I saw

American
Southern
Old School Chevy Dale fan


:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Hmm....Maybe fundamentally we aren't all that different. :cheers:

[BigMike619]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Hmm....Maybe fundamentally we aren't all that different. :cheers:

oh hush HH. You and I aint so different about a lot of things. :silly:

[honorary_hog]

oh hush HH. You and I aint so different about a lot of things. :silly:

You take that back, that was uncalled for. :mad:

(Course, I don't know which of us should me more insulted.) :laugh:

[BigMike619]

You take that back, that was uncalled for. :mad:

(Course, I don't know which of us should me more insulted.) :laugh:

well I have a feeling in Canton that its going to be "us" against a lot of "them". Them being the town folk of course.

:cheers:

[honorary_hog]

well I have a feeling in Canton that its going to be "us" against a lot of "them". Them being the town folk of course.
:cheers:

In that case, my sympathies to them townfolk. :D

[BigMike619]

In that case, my sympathies to them townfolk. :D

its going to be a sea or burgundy and gold.

I really wonder if they go thru this every year a player goes in. this year HAS to be bigger though since Art AND DG are both going in together.

[honorary_hog]

its going to be a sea or burgundy and gold.

I really wonder if they go thru this every year a player goes in. this year HAS to be bigger though since Art AND DG are both going in together.

In all seriousness, as long as we waited for Art, and then to get DGreen too, I'll be shocked if we don't break the attendance record out there.

But hey, just so we can stand apart from the crowd a little bit, I'll bring you a Carl Edwards shirt. What size do you wear? :)

[BigMike619]

In all seriousness, as long as we waited for Art, and then to get DGreen too, I'll be shocked if we don't break the attendance record out there.

But hey, just so we can stand apart from the crowd a little bit, I'll bring you a Carl Edwards shirt. What size do you wear? :)

bring whatever size you want to have shoved up your butt!! :laugh:

I dont even own a JR shirt or hat. :2cents:

[honorary_hog]

bring whatever size you want to have shoved up your butt!! :laugh:

I dont even own a JR shirt or hat. :2cents:

Whaaaaat????? :yikes:

[BigMike619]

Whaaaaat????? :yikes:

nah man, my dad has like 43523532554 SR shirts and I let him handle flying that flag. I have 6 Redskins jerseys...

Anyone who knows me though knows what I am doing on Sundays and usually the second week of the season. :cheers:

[honorary_hog]

nah man, my dad has like 43523532554 SR shirts and I let him handle flying that flag.

But you Jr. fans claim to be so proud. I guess that's when you're in your own house, behind a computer and TV screen, and no one knows you're rooting for a guy who hasn't won in since the Washington Generals last upset the 'Trotters. :laugh:

[BigMike619]

But you Jr. fans claim to be so proud. I guess that's when you're in your own house, behind a computer and TV screen, and no one knows you're rooting for a guy who hasn't won in since the Washington Generals last upset the 'Trotters. :laugh:

look, just because you prance around WV in your medium 99 tank top doesnt mean we all have to be "out" and about like you. :silly:

[honorary_hog]

look, just because you prance around WV in your medium 99 tank top doesnt mean we all have to be "out" and about like you. :silly:

Joe likes my tight shirts, thank you.












































Joe Mama! :silly: :point2sky :laugh:

[BigMike619]

Joe likes my tight shirts, thank you.


Joe Mama! :silly: :point2sky :laugh:

well played

:finger:

:laugh:

[honorary_hog]

well played

:finger:

:laugh:

Here's what I see.

We get to Canton.

We go to a bar.

We start off laughing and joking.

We wind up beating the holy **** out of each other.

We finish up laughing and joking.

Rinse and repeat for the next 50 years.

:laugh:

[BigMike619]

I am not fighting you. Im going to save that for the town folk.

and DONT YOU DARE PUNCH ME!!

lol

[honorary_hog]

I am not fighting you. Im going to save that for the town folk.

and DONT YOU DARE PUNCH ME!!

lol

OK, I promise.

(Unless Amy's watching, and I think she'll get all hot and bothered for me if I KYTFO.) :laugh:

[BigMike619]

OK, I promise.

(Unless Amy's watching, and I think she'll get all hot and bothered for me if I KYTFO.) :laugh:

what a shame...sell your bro out for some split tail. :doh:


Ill kick you in the nuts so you cant use them even if she does get turned on. :silly:

[honorary_hog]

what a shame...sell your bro out for some split tail. :doh:

Ill kick you in the nuts so you cant use them even if she does get turned on. :silly:

The buddy ****er vs. the **** blocker!!! Live on PPV!!!!

Llllllleeeeeeeeeetttttt's get ready to rumbllllllleeeeee!!!!!! :laugh:

[SkinsBry]

I wonder if they'll try getting the race in under lights or just wait until Monday. They could be on a green track tomorrow.

[honorary_hog]

I wonder if they'll try getting the race in under lights or just wait until Monday. They could be on a green track tomorrow.

Hopefully they'll run under the lights. If they do, I'll be home for the end of it most likely.


Post #99!!!


:point2sky

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Its gonna be a while before the Nationwide race starts if it even will tonight.

[BigMike619]

Its gonna be a while before the Nationwide race starts if it even will tonight.

Hog is already calling Betty to win the minor league race.

he is going to beat Cal State Fullerton and some other elem. school for the title.

:laugh:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Maybe Betty should just race in the minor leagues full time and give up cup since he likes it so much. :D

[honorary_hog]

Maybe Betty should just race in the minor leagues full time and give up cup since he likes it so much. :D

Did you think that last week when Hoonyor stepped down to lose twice in front of the home crowd? :D

Hog is already calling Betty to win the minor league race.

he is going to beat Cal State Fullerton and some other elem. school for the title.

:laugh:

Jealousy is such a painful and destructive emotion. :)

Carl 3, Jr. 0, in the Bigs baby!

:point2sky

[BigMike619]

Did you think that last week when Hoonyor stepped down to lose twice in front of the home crowd? :D



Jealousy is such a painful and destructive emotion. :)

Carl 3, Jr. 0, in the Bigs baby!

:point2sky

you got it backwards. JR in place 3 in points. WHICH IS WHAT MATTERS!!

3rd in points
2 championships in a row
1 cheating roush driver.

:laugh:

[honorary_hog]

2 championships in a row

Everytime an alleged Earnhardt fan celebrates the accomplishments of a metrosexual, NASCAR dies a little. :laugh:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Hog you shouldn't hope your driver races in the Nationwide series. One day it will happen, a major cup driver gets hurt in a minor league race. Remember when JR got burned up in that race a few years ago? That may have costed him big time that year we will never know. I dont even know why they want to run so many races in the nationwide series. :2cents:

[BigMike619]

Everytime an alleged Earnhardt fan celebrates the accomplishments of a metrosexual, NASCAR dies a little. :laugh:

..........................

[BigMike619]

Hog you shouldn't hope your driver races in the Nationwide series. One day it will happen, a major cup driver gets hurt in a minor league race. Remember when JR got burned up in that race a few years ago? That may have costed him big time that year we will never know. I dont even know why they want to run so many races in the nationwide series. :2cents:

wasnt that in a corvette race?

he said he was totally out and his dad pulled him out. so ****ing cool. :(

[honorary_hog]

Hog you shouldn't hope your driver races in the Nationwide series. One day it will happen, a major cup driver gets hurt in a minor league race. Remember when JR got burned up in that race a few years ago? That may have costed him big time that year we will never know. I dont even know why they want to run so many races in the nationwide series. :2cents:

I understand your position on Cup drivers in N'wide, and I think you understand mine. We just disagree, and that's cool. For all the **** I talk with you guys, I think you know I respect your positions.

NASCAR is an inherently risky business. For God's sake, how many drivers/team owners/team members have we lost, simply flying to and from race tracks? Kulwicki, Allison, the Hendrick crash.

So what, do we make these guys drive everywhere because flying is too risky? You can't. The schedule is too tight for that. Unfortunately, you just have to understand that if you're going to participate in this sport, there are risks that you simply cannot avoid.

It's like when I worked in law enforcement. I loved every second of it. Was it a risky job? In a lot of ways, yes, but you can't think that way. If you do, you'll be completely ineffective. The same is true of NASCAR, IMO.

Like I said before, guys come up too fast these days. Getting as much experience as possible, even after you've made it to Cup, only makes both series better, IMO.

I know you disagree, and like I said, I respect that. Just my :2cents: .

[SC_RedskinsFan]

wasnt that in a corvette race?

he said he was totally out and his dad pulled him out. so ****ing cool. :(

I cant remember what race it was but it was at a road course and yeah he said he didnt undo his belts or get out.

[honorary_hog]

I cant remember what race it was but it was at a road course and yeah he said he didnt undo his belts or get out.

That was a Corvette race. I'm not sure who sanctioned it though.

That picture was scary as hell.

[BigMike619]

I cant remember what race it was but it was at a road course and yeah he said he didnt undo his belts or get out.

yeah it was a vette race and I remember the on board cam and he wasnt moving at all. I remember thinking he was going to die and he suddenly started jerking around.

I believe his dad did save his ass and I was shocked at how the car almost seemed to wait until he was clear and then go up in flames big time.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

yeah it was a vette race and I remember the on board cam and he wasnt moving at all. I remember thinking he was going to die and he suddenly started jerking around.

I believe his dad did save his ass and I was shocked at how the car almost seemed to wait until he was clear and then go up in flames big time.

I thought i was going to see my driver die on the track for a second time. Glad it all worked out.

[BigMike619]

I thought i was going to see my driver die on the track for a second time. Glad it all worked out.

http://www.totallyracingpitstop.com/Little_E_Fire.jpg

http://www.nsxfiles.com/images4/july04_fire.jpg

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGR0KWLs51c

[SkinsBry]

They said NASCAR wants to go green no later than 6:15. I'm not sure if that's their goal, or if they'll wait until Monday if they aren't ready by 6:15.

[honorary_hog]

They said NASCAR wants to go green no later than 6:15. I'm not sure if that's their goal, or if they'll wait until Monday if they aren't ready by 6:15.

I just checked the radar, SB. It doesn't look good. It looks like the worst of the main cell has passed, but it's going to be raining steady there until at least 5:15.

After that, there's one of those small "windows" and then a small, but powerful looking cell right behind it.

If 6:15 is their drop dead time, I'd say no racing tonight. But I'm no meteorologist either.

[honorary_hog]

http://www.totallyracingpitstop.com/Little_E_Fire.jpg

That's the one.

I searched for it, but couldn't find it.

[SkinsBry]

I just checked the radar, SB. It doesn't look good. It looks like the worst of the main cell has passed, but it's going to be raining steady there until at least 5:15.

After that, there's one of those small "windows" and then a small, but powerful looking cell right behind it.

If 6:15 is their drop dead time, I'd say no racing tonight. But I'm no meteorologist either.

The guys on ESPN like the way the radar is looking, but they're not meteorologists either. I guess we'll find out.

Today kinda reminds me of Sunday last year, only last year, I knew they weren't getting it in.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

http://www.totallyracingpitstop.com/Little_E_Fire.jpg



That is an ugly sight.

[Fergasun]

honarary hog,
You're wrong about the rule books for major sports being online. The official NFL rulebook is not kept online, they just have a "rules digest". From the rules digest main page on NFL.com.It is not meant to be a substitute for the official rule book. In any case of conflict between these explanations and the official rules, the rules always have precedence.This is something I've talked about with a few people the past couple of years...

[BigMike619]

That is an ugly sight.

he got out of the car but passed out right away again.

all of us know how he really got out of that car...

[honorary_hog]

honarary hog,
You're wrong about the rule books for major sports being online. The official NFL rulebook is not kept online, they just have a "rules digest". From the rules digest main page on NFL.com.This is something I've talked about with a few people the past couple of years...

Well I guess I stand corrected then, thanks.

Still I wish NASCAR would do SOMETHING to that effect. At least give us an idea of what the penalty will be if you commit a given infraction. The NFL at least does do that.

[honorary_hog]

he got out of the car but passed out right away again.

all of us know how he really got out of that car...

No doubt.

[SkinsBry]

Driver intros in 10 mins. The sky looked pretty decent. I wanna see how Sliced Bread does.

[Burgundy Burner]

Scott Wimmer and Mike Bliss always sound like they suck in some helium before speaking.

[honorary_hog]

Scott Wimmer and Mike Bliss always sound like they suck in some helium before speaking.

So does Kelly Bires, but I guess that happens when you're 4'2" and 84 pounds. :laugh:

Driver intros in 10 mins. The sky looked pretty decent. I wanna see how Sliced Bread does.

Great news! :applause:

[SkinsBry]

Paris Hilton is racing.



No, wait, that's just Kyle wearing her sunglasses.

[BigMike619]

Paris Hilton is racing.



No, wait, that's just Kyle wearing her sunglasses.

:laugh:

:applause:

dont forget though, he is the "new intimidator" :doh:

[SkinsBry]

dont forget though, he is the "new intimidator" :doh:


Yeah, I keep forgetting that. :rolleyes: However, Ol' Dale never tried to look "Fabulous".

[SkinsBry]

They're on the track, getting ready to go green soon. They said a 25th lap competition caution.

[honorary_hog]

They're on the track, getting ready to go green soon. They said a 25th lap competition caution.

Cool.

I'll catch most of it on Sirius on the way home, and hopefully make it home in time for the end.

Thanks, Mother Nature & NASCAR! :laugh:

[BigMike619]

Yeah, I keep forgetting that. :rolleyes: However, Ol' Dale never tried to look "Fabulous".

its hard to look "fabulous" when you got that broomstick mustache and big ol oakleys.

:2cents:

[SkinsBry]

Anyone see the jet-dryer rip up the asphault on pit road?

[SkinsBry]

RESULTS
2008 Unofficial Race Results : Heluva Good! 200
Heluva Good! 200 | May 31, 2008 | Race 14 of 35



FIN ST CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR PTS/BNS LAPS STATUS
1 2 18 Denny Hamlin Toyota Joe Gibbs Driven Hot Rod Oil 195/10 200 Running
2 1 60 Carl Edwards Ford Save-A-Lot 170/0 200 Running
3 18 64 David Stremme Chevrolet Atreus Homes & Communities 165/0 200 Running
4 15 99 David Reutimann Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine 160/0 200 Running
5 10 16 Greg Biffle Ford CitiFinancial 155/0 200 Running
6 9 20 Joey Logano Toyota GameStop 150/0 200 Running
7 5 88 Brad Keselowski Chevrolet U.S. Navy 146/0 200 Running
8 17 7 Mike Wallace Toyota GEICO 142/0 200 Running
9 21 2 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet BB&T 138/0 200 Running
10 14 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Wisk 134/0 200 Running
11 26 66 Steve Wallace Chevrolet Atreus Homes & Communities 130/0 200 Running
12 16 29 Scott Wimmer Chevrolet Holiday Inn / Holiday Inn Express 127/0 200 Running
13 8 47 Kelly Bires Ford Clorox / Giant 124/0 200 Running
14 19 25 Bobby Hamilton Jr. Ford Smithfield 121/0 200 Running
15 23 40 Dario Franchitti * Dodge Fastenal 118/0 200 Running
16 24 111 Jason Keller Chevrolet America's Incredible Pizza Company 115/0 199 Running
17 13 33 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet RoadLoans.com 112/0 199 Running
18 4 1 Mike Bliss Chevrolet Miccosukee Resort & Gaming 109/0 198 Running
19 11 22 Josh Wise Dodge Supercuts 106/0 198 Running
20 29 28 Kenny Wallace Chevrolet U.S. Border Patrol 103/0 198 Running
21 33 30 Stanton Barrett Chevrolet GrandStay / Donatos 100/0 198 Running
22 35 89 Morgan Shepherd Dodge Victory In Jesus 97/0 196 Running
23 20 12 Sam Hornish Jr. Dodge Penske Truck Rental 94/0 195 Running
24 41 4 Derrike Cope Chevrolet JVC 91/0 193 Running
25 7 5 Landon Cassill * Chevrolet Nat'l Guard / 50th Infantry Brigade Combat Team 88/0 191 Running
26 42 24 Eric McClure Chevrolet Hefty 85/0 188 Running
27 22 38 Jason Leffler Toyota Great Clips 82/0 169 Accident
28 3 32 Kyle Busch Toyota Dollar General 84/5 168 Accident
29 28 6 David Ragan Ford Discount Tire 76/0 161 Accident
30 12 59 Marcos Ambrose Ford Kingsford Hickory Charcoal 73/0 152 Accident
31 39 81 Bryan Clauson * Dodge Vector Security 70/0 130 Handling
32 6 27 Brad Coleman Ford Scott Shop Towels / Wal-Mart 67/0 101 Accident
33 40 05 Brett Rowe Chevrolet 31-W Insulation / CertainTeed 64/0 45 Overheating
34 37 52 Donnie Neuenberger Ford Royal Farms Wraps 61/0 43 Accident
35 27 161 Kevin Lepage Ford Specialty Racing 63/5 38 Electrical
36 31 0 Kertus Davis Chevrolet Lori Morgan 55/0 12 Electrical
37 43 255 Brad Teague Chevrolet Forest City Owls / Truck Service 52/0 11 Electrical
38 32 01 J C Stout Chevrolet RaceGirl 49/0 9 Clutch
39 36 90 Johnny Chapman Chevrolet MSRP Motorsports 46/0 9 Vibration
40 30 331 Kenny Hendrick Chevrolet GrandStay / Donatos 43/0 8 Vibration
41 25 91 Terry Cook Chevrolet MSRP Motorsports 40/0 7 Vibration
42 34 37 Burney Lamar Ford Greg Biffle Foundation 37/0 6 Transmission
43 38 84 Mike Harmon Chevrolet RaceFumes.com / MHR 34/0 4 Overheating

* Denotes Rookie

Lagano "Sliced Bread" looked pretty good. He was disappointed with his sixth place finish.

[BigMike619]

7 5 88 Brad Keselowski Chevrolet U.S. Navy 146/0 200 Running

great number
great owner
great sponsor.

If he was in Winston Cup I might just root for this guy...

[SkinsBry]

If he was in Winston Cup I might just root for this guy...

He's getting there. Maybe put him in a few Cup rides next year. He's at least a season and a half away.

[BigMike619]

He's getting there. Maybe put him in a few Cup rides next year. He's at least a season and a half away.

oh yeah, by no means do I wanna rush any rookie driver into the big leagues. we have too many busch's as is; we dont need some other loose cannon who cant seem to avoid trouble every time he turns around.

is it just me or does Paris Busch seem to get into with a new driver every week? who did he run into in the pits this week? just seems to me like the boy has no respect and no common courtesy. I would like to see him hit Betty one time so that big ol boy can knock his ass out.:2cents:

[SkinsBry]

oh yeah, by no means do I wanna rush any rookie driver into the big leagues. we have too many busch's as is; we dont need some other loose cannon who cant seem to avoid trouble every time he turns around.

is it just me or does Paris Busch seem to get into with a new driver every week? who did he run into in the pits this week? just seems to me like the boy has no respect and no common courtesy. I would like to see him hit Betty one time so that big ol boy can knock his ass out.:2cents:

There was a bottle-neck on pit road and Keselowski got into Paris a little. His teammate Leffler took them both out. Afterwards, Princess did her weekly on-air temper tantrum. I like those better than the bows anyway. :laugh:

edit:
9 to go, KNOCK ON WOOD, KNOCK ON WOOD!!!

[SkinsBry]

I suppose alota people from here are at the race?

[CandaceM23]

Not me. :)

My folks are there ... and I'm sure they're pissed that KB won. He's such a douche....

[SkinsBry]

He's such a douche....

I couldn't agree more. :cheers:

[honorary_hog]

Woooooo!!!!!


Huge points day for Roush Fenway Racing.

Carl to within 66 of Junior. (Yep, we're about to take away the 'standings' argument too. And *ahem* we're back within the margin of the penalty, so the "better on the track" thing is back in play.) :silly:

Seriously though, sorry you guys got caught up in that early mess. I'm sure we'll see each other at the front next week.

:cheers:

[Burgundy Burner]

Not me. :)

My folks are there ... and I'm sure they're pissed that KB won. He's such a douche....

Love to see the crybabies come out after each Gibbs win. :laugh:

[SkinsBry]

Anyone getting the Eldora PPV this week?

[SkinsOrlando]

Not me. :)

My folks are there ... and I'm sure they're pissed that KB won. He's such a douche....


Drinking hatorade is bad for ones health

[Burgundy Burner]

McMurray out at Jack Rat Fenway racing after this year...


http://www.thatsracin.com/topstories/story/15000.html

Having fun with the "Rat" thing HH - don't blow a gasket. :laugh:

[honorary_hog]

McMurray out at Jack Rat Fenway racing after this year...


http://www.thatsracin.com/topstories/story/15000.html

Having fun with the "Rat" thing HH - don't blow a gasket. :laugh:

It's all good. It's the on-track BS that gets to me. :)

I called this a couple of weeks ago. Jack really has no choice, considering the way Dave Ragan has run this year. That kid is 200% better than he was last year, and he's 6 or 7 years younger than McMurray.

I look for the 26 team (still the 97 to me) to go away after this season. Jack's already talked about downsizing a year early. IMO, Biffle has built himself a nice little history and track record in the 16. No reason to slap a different decal on his car. (And obviously the 6, 17, and 99 aren't going anywhere.)

I'm sorry to hear this for Jamie, though like I said, I think it was inevitable. I wish him the best. He's a good kid who keeps his nose clean and does things the right way. Too bad it didn't work out.

Jamie never really found his identity with Roush though, for whatever reason. I think the makeup of this team going forward, with a brilliant young driver in Ragan, a real contender in Edwards, a quiet, solid vet in Biffle, and a former champion in Kenseth, is the PERFECT setup.

Plus, when you throw in the resources of five teams across the operations of four teams, that can only make them stronger.

I'm excited about the future at Roush.
Good luck Jamie. Here's to you not becoming a Jeremy Mayfield. :cheers:




PS -- This also lends further credence to my statement that BIFFLE AIN'T GOIN' ANYWHERE!!! :D

[Burgundy Burner]

The 26 team could go to Yates - and the points too.

[honorary_hog]

The 26 team could go to Yates - and the points too.

That's an excellent point. I hadn't considered that. That's a move that makes great racing AND business sense for both teams.

Good call, BB.

:cheers:

[E33Green]

What a race, I'm still recovering today. Coach Joe was in the pits and beaming after another dominating weekend by JGR.

[endzone_dave]

It might have been my imagination but it looked like Kyle was coming sideways off the turns more than anyone else. It's like he's willing to drive his car closer to the edge than anyone else.

[THEREALTOR1]

bump...

Just wanted to see if anyone who went to the first race is going to be headed back for the second race in Sept. I've got to make my Sept. schedule for work soon, and I might be able to take off (2) days in a row (probably fri. & sat. being my work partner likes to go the sunday race).

I believe its the weekend of 9/19, 9/20, 9/21.

I also see we have a home game against Ariz. on 9/21, that's actually a game I wouldn't mind going to... Just trying to figure out what, if anything, i'm gonna get into for this weekend.

Anybody up for a making it a weekend of racing/football? If so, screw work, i've got vacation days I could always use!!!

:cheers: