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Burgundy Burner
June-3rd-2008, 07:34 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080603/ap_on_go_co/pentagon_propaganda;_ylt=Aln17xV2iMmNEmyj_QI6Bm6yF z4D

Personally, I see this as Congressional dems wanting to seek to limit positive war news.

Yep, we can't have good news from any war get leaked to public - that is bad. And the dems continue to wonder why they can't get the military vote. With this piece of junk legislation, expect to lose the presidential election once again libs/dems. And we thought Uncle Harry and Aunt Nancy were going to lower the oil/gas prices. Yep, love them priorites.

Here are some snippets from the article:

Congressional Democrats want to ban Pentagon propaganda on the Iraq war, but they are likely to find that enforcement is easier said than done.

Last month, the House passed legislation to prohibit the military from engaging in "any form of communication in support of national objectives designed to influence the opinions, emotions, attitudes or behavior of the people of the United States in order to benefit the sponsor, either directly or indirectly."

New Hampshire Democratic Rep. Paul Hodes, who co-sponsored the House bill with Reps. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., and Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., said the recent House legislation shouldn't affect the Pentagon's day-to-day operations, including factual updates on the war given to the media. (Yep, all dems).

Not everyone on Capitol Hill agrees the military overstepped its bounds. Rep. Duncan Hunter, a tireless advocate of Bush's policies in Iraq, says the military was fairly trying to promote what it saw as the facts on the ground.

"The idea that we call the people who disagree with us propagandists" and those who agree "great seers and statesmen and philosophers doesn't make any sense," said Hunter, R-Calif., the top Republican on the House Armed Services Committee.

TMK9973
June-3rd-2008, 07:51 AM
Of course the real title of the article is

Banning military propaganda could be hard to do

And some other key quotes about the bill

I hope it inspires the Pentagon to tell the truth," Hodes said of the bill.
On April 20, The New York Times uncovered a six-year Pentagon program that cultivated several dozen military analysts to generate favorable news coverage on the war. These retired military generals were fed talking points, taken on trips to Guantanamo Bay prison and Iraq, given access to classified intelligence and briefed personally by senior defense officials, including then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, according to e-mails, transcripts and other records provided to the Times and eventually released by the Defense Department.

That the officers maintained extensive ties to the Pentagon after retirement wasn't surprising, as is custom among military's senior ranks. But the program seemed to unfairly reward these new media personalities and the defense companies that employed them as lobbyists with plum access to the department so long as the retired officers spoke in favor of the war.


But hey - Keep reading what you like into it....

Buford
June-3rd-2008, 07:52 AM
Nice job.

We have rules about using profile titles.

Burgundy Burner
June-3rd-2008, 08:11 AM
Nice job.

We have rules about using profile titles.

Just being honest. I know the rules.

Larry
June-3rd-2008, 08:14 AM
Just being honest. I know the rules.

You just don't allow them to get in the way of . . . propaganda.

And no, you weren't being honest. And still aren't.

Buford
June-3rd-2008, 08:14 AM
Just being honest. I know the rules.

You weren't being honest. You were being dishonest by making up your own title for this article.

Not to mention, if you know the rules. Then why break them?

Thiebear
June-3rd-2008, 08:16 AM
I jump on everyone about this also....

at least you could have used:
WASHINGTON - Congressional Democrats want to ban Pentagon propaganda

its the first line...

Burgundy Burner
June-3rd-2008, 08:25 AM
I jump on everyone about this also....

at least you could have used:
WASHINGTON - Congressional Democrats want to ban Pentagon propaganda

its the first line...

Ok, I'll edit that part - but nothing else.

Midnight Judges
June-3rd-2008, 11:23 AM
It boggles the mind how anyone can be for propaganda put out by the US Government. Best case scenario: it helps us in the short term and damages us in the long term.

WVUforREDSKINS
June-3rd-2008, 11:29 AM
Good I hope they succeed. Why would anyone not want to know the truth?

Diggs
June-3rd-2008, 11:35 AM
God forbid anyone ban congressional propoganda.

aREDSKIN
June-3rd-2008, 11:36 AM
Of course the real title of the article is




I hope it inspires the Pentagon to tell the truth," Hodes said of the bill.



LOL coming from a POLITICIAN. :laugh:

Destino
June-3rd-2008, 12:08 PM
The pentagon should do nothing more than what they are told. Their job isn't to influence the political arena and if they have way to much access to the catch all "national security" tag to be allowed into the political arena. For the people by the people can not include people that do not answer to... well, the people.

Larry
June-3rd-2008, 12:17 PM
I can see both sides, here.

IMO, propaganda is a perfectly legitimate weapon of war. And so is a President "selling" that war to the people. (It's called "leadership", and it's part of his job.)

OTOH, I'd also say that yeah, Congress has the authority to cut off it's funding. It's part of their job to decide whether to authorize it or not.

(I don't know if they should (cut it off), but I'll claim vigorously that they can.)

Skins24
June-3rd-2008, 12:21 PM
Good I hope they succeed. Why would anyone not want to know the truth?
Because they CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!



Do we get to keep 40s and 50s propaganda reels if this passes?

GibbsFactor
June-3rd-2008, 12:25 PM
WAIT!

Does this mean 24 will be canceled?