PDA

View Full Version : ESPN.com: Best and Worst Running Back Tandems


the krabber
June-3rd-2008, 11:31 AM
Its ESPN Insider, so here is the entire article (link (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/columns/story?columnist=green_jeremy&id=3422857))

Teams turning to two backs, but not all are created equal

One recent trend in the NFL is that teams are creating depth at running back and more and more teams are using a two-back system. Here's a look at duos that will have success this season and others that will struggle.

Dynamic Duos

Minnesota's Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor
The Vikings had the NFL's No. 1 run offense last season for many reasons, but their success starts with the guys who carry the rock. Peterson burst onto the scene as a rookie and showed he is the league's most physical runner between the tackles. What makes him even more dangerous is the power-speed combination he possesses. His ability to run over the defender without losing momentum makes him the most feared pure downhill runner in the NFL. That said, Taylor is no slouch. Two years ago, when Peterson was still in college, Taylor was a 1,300-yard rusher. Last season, he carried the load when Peterson was injured and finished the season with a 5.4 yard-per-carry average and seven touchdowns. Though neither Peterson nor Taylor is a pure speed back, each complements the other very well behind the best offensive line in the NFL.

Jacksonville's Fred Taylor and Maurice Jones-Drew
The Jaguars' backs make up one of the most explosive duos in the NFL. They pressure defenses to remain in position all day because any mental breakdowns or one guy's getting in the wrong gap can result in a big play at any time. Taylor is as healthy as he has been at any point in his career. His vision and ability to make the first defender miss in the hole look as good as they did earlier in his career. Jones-Drew plays much faster than he times and is a threat to score any time he touches the football.

Dallas' Marion Barber and Felix Jones
As soon as the Cowboys selected Jones, I started envisioning how this backfield would shape up in 2008. The rest of the NFC East likely started having nightmares. Now that Julius Jones has left for Seattle, Barber is now the lead back. He is one of the most physical runners in the NFL and leaves a mark when he runs over a defender. Jones' quickness and speed make him the perfect complement. One of the toughest adjustments a defense has to make is when it goes from seeing a physical, between-the-tackles runner to a speed guy. In terms of pure explosiveness when combining strength and speed, this duo is unmatched.

Pittsburgh's Willie Parker and Rashard Mendenhall
Pittsburgh wasn't supposed to be on this list. But then the second-best rookie running back in the 2008 class fell into the Steelers' laps. Though Parker is a speed back who has shown he can carry the load, depth has been a concern for the Steelers. Plus, Parker is coming back from a season-ending injury, so adding Mendenhall made sense. He is a physical runner who should provide nice balance in the backfield to "Fast Willie" and a Pittsburgh offense that will try to re-establish its tough, blue-collar mentality this season.

Seattle's Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett
Unhappy with his backfield, Mike Holmgren decided to shake things up. In a rare move, the Seahawks dipped into the unrestricted free-agent running back market twice in the offseason in an effort to get one star running back via two bodies. A change of scenery will help Jones, who was never given a full opportunity to succeed in Dallas. Once he got the "soft" label, his days of being given the opportunity to carry the load went by the wayside. Duckett is a journeyman but is a proven backup with solid size and the power to run between the tackles.


Destined Duds

Tennessee's LenDale White and Chris Henry
The Titans ran the ball well last season, but that's not necessarily a reflection of White and Henry. Instead, that success stemmed from an offensive line that won't be as good in 2008. White is inconsistent and, if history is a guide, likely will show up out of shape. Henry is a workout warrior but is unproven. Throw in rookie Chris Johnson, who was the fastest back among the rookie runners, and the Titans have bodies. How those bodies will mesh remains to be seen.

Detroit's Tatum Bell and Kevin Smith
After passing on Mendenhall in the first round of the 2008 draft, Lions GM Matt Millen caught a break when Smith was still available on Day 2. Smith was a workhorse in college and is now the most talented back on the Lions. He likely will start. The question mark is Bell, who surprisingly was re-signed by the Lions this offseason. He is not physical and is injury-prone. For this duo to have success, Bell will need to stay healthy.

Chicago's Cedric Benson and Matt Forte
Ever since the Bears traded veteran Thomas Jones, they have been trying to fill that spot. Benson has yet to live up to expectations, and his offseason problems don't help. Last year, Chicago took Garrett Wolfe and followed that with the selection of Forte this year. Wolfe and Forte do not possess the physical tools to ever be "the guy." Throw in veteran Adrian Peterson, and the Bears are doing nothing more than stockpiling bodies at the position right now. The Bears are not building a duo. They are throwing darts at the position, which will mean a different body as the lead back every week.


Carolina's DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart
Maybe this isn't the worst of duos, but it is one that makes you scratch your head. Surprisingly, the Panthers have earned a free pass for taking a running back in Round 1 two of the past three years despite giving a long-term deal to veteran DeShaun Foster (who is no longer with the team). It's funny, but the way they talk about Stewart sounds similar to the way they talked about Williams when he came out to team with Foster. Time will tell, but the Panthers have yet to find a combination that works as they keep trying to develop a consistent ground game during the John Fox era.

Miami's Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams
It is hard to grasp why the Miami Dolphins showed no interest in rookie RB Darren McFadden, who clearly was the best player in the 2008 NFL draft. On paper it appears the Dolphins have a RB duo, but the reality is there isn't a stable force as the lead back on this team. Brown is coming off an ACL injury, and Williams is aloof and can't be trusted. Miami wants to have a physical, grind-it-out run offense, but it's hard to count on Brown and Williams to do that. The Dolphins are hoping one back comes through. Two would be a bonus.

skindogger47
June-3rd-2008, 11:46 AM
Written by a guy who says that the Dolphins should have taken McFadden. No thanks. Ronnie Brown was tearing up the league before he got hurt last year. God Im sick of these uninformed articles. How do these people get these jobs?

TJ Duckett and Julius Jones? Sure buddy.

tiger187126
June-3rd-2008, 11:50 AM
I remember how out of shape Duckett was when he played here. Good luck with that Seattle, there's a reason he's a journyman.

elkabong82
June-3rd-2008, 11:53 AM
Always amuses me when rookies get ranked among the NFL elite before ever playing a down.

pjfootballer
June-3rd-2008, 11:54 AM
The mere mention of Jones/Duckett made him lose all credibility.

jpillian
June-3rd-2008, 11:58 AM
Miami's Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams

I must live under a rock. I did NOT recall that Ricky Williams returned to the Dolphins.

Wow. Craziness.

bubba9497
June-3rd-2008, 11:59 AM
Always amuses me when rookies get ranked among the NFL elite before ever playing a down.


bingo

the krabber
June-3rd-2008, 12:12 PM
This was my comment that I posted on the article:

"Seattle's Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett? Are you serious? They have never played together and neither of them have been particularly impressive in recent memory and all of a sudden they are one of the best tandems in the league? Plus, Rashard Mendenhall and Felix Jones havent even taken a snap in a real game, much less a preseason game. How can you say that they are gonna be part of the best tandems when they have never touched the field?"

Even a Cowboys fan was in agreement that the Barber/Jones ranking was premature and someone else questioned where the Portis/Betts was.

DWinzit
June-3rd-2008, 08:16 PM
Dynamic Duos
Seattle's Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett
:laugh:
Destined Duds
Tennessee's LenDale White and Chris Henry
I don't see these guys as duds.
Carolina's DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart How these two not be in the same category as Barber/Jones and Parker/Mendenhall?

skinfan2k
June-3rd-2008, 08:20 PM
There are some duos that should be on the list that i believe could be on here this year

like Addai/Rhodes, Betts/Portis, Bradshaw/Jacobs,

Shilsu
June-3rd-2008, 08:31 PM
Rhodes hasn't been on the Colts for a year, and despite trying to use them as a tandem at the beginning of last season, Portis pretty much became the workhorse by the end of the season with Betts getting very few touches.

MisterPinstripe
June-3rd-2008, 09:46 PM
Rhodes hasn't been on the Colts for a year, and despite trying to use them as a tandem at the beginning of last season, Portis pretty much became the workhorse by the end of the season with Betts getting very few touches.

The Colts re-signed Rhodes this offseason after the Raiders released him.

kuraitengai
June-4th-2008, 10:35 AM
Always amuses me when rookies get ranked among the NFL elite before ever playing a down.
i was going to say the same thing. the only proven ones on the list are the vikings and the jags. the rest...not a chance.

mb3 hasnt started but what? 2 games? and he got shut out against us last year. who knows if he can carry a full load. and jones wasnt even the starter in college.

parker and mendenhall. they could theoretically be on the list. parker is a stud, but mendenhall hasnt taken a snap.

jones and duckett? both were let go from their previous teams. jones was outshined by a backup. and duckett is a journeyman.

yeah, great list there

KiwiSupaFlyNuka
June-4th-2008, 10:38 AM
No comment.

dmorris89
June-4th-2008, 10:43 AM
Rhodes was a powerhouse when he was behind Edge. Edge left, then he left because he thought he wasn't gonna get playing time behind Addai. They resigned him, so, I don't see why they aren't there. If you think they wont pick up some yards on first and third downs, your crazy.

BigMike619
June-4th-2008, 11:34 AM
Felix Jones hasnt even run ONE down with the Boys yet and they are the great duo all of a sudden?

Peterson goes crazy last year and Chester Taylor is now an elite RB?

man, talk about backwards thinking.

The one I Do agree with is Taylor and Jones-Drew. Those boys are hard.

And I wasnt shocked to see Portis/Betts not on the list. And I am glad they werent because Betts didnt do anything to be on there.

mojobo
June-4th-2008, 11:49 AM
Written by a guy who says that the Dolphins should have taken McFadden. No thanks. Ronnie Brown was tearing up the league before he got hurt last year. God Im sick of these uninformed articles. How do these people get these jobs?

TJ Duckett and Julius Jones? Sure buddy.

seriously where do they keep finding these idiots. Julius Jones is probably near the bottom half of all starting running backs, and Duckett is lucky to still be in the league.

nightbird
June-4th-2008, 11:59 AM
I am not one to complain about media treatment of the Redskins, I generally just don't care and will enjoy my team without them.

But damn, I am so sick of crap like this. This isn't some random internet harpie, this is ESPN, the gold standard.

Seattle??? Julius Jones is a damn chump who can't hold a football, and Duckett hits the hole like a tipsy party girl in high heels.

Then they throw in rookies who've never taken a damn snap in the NFL, but nevertheless they are instantly among the best rb duos in the league.

I've got no problem with the first two choices.

But after that, there's only one team in the league with two 1,000 yard backs from the last two years, and they sure as hell weren't Julius Jones and TJ Duckett.

ucfSKINS
June-4th-2008, 12:22 PM
I agree for the most part with this analysis. But TJ ducket and Julius Jones?!?!?! They were joking right?

Too bad for the Lions and Kevin Smith. Dude is a stud, he just has a lousy back up. But then again, I'm UCF alumni, so I love seeing former Knights doing well.

Except for Asante, I hope he kicks ass in 14 out of 16 games this year :)

JetSkins
June-4th-2008, 02:40 PM
Lendale White could surprise this year

KiwiSupaFlyNuka
June-4th-2008, 03:04 PM
Maybe they're saving the Giants Jacobs/Bradshaw/Ward as the best Trio?

barens2
June-4th-2008, 03:20 PM
Dallas' Marion Barber and Felix Jones
"As soon as the Cowboys selected Jones, I started envisioning how this backfield would shape up in 2008. The rest of the NFC East likely started having nightmares. Now that Julius Jones has left for Seattle, Barber is now the lead back. He is one of the most physical runners in the NFL and leaves a mark when he runs over a defender. Jones' quickness and speed make him the perfect complement. One of the toughest adjustments a defense has to make is when it goes from seeing a physical, between-the-tackles runner to a speed guy. In terms of pure explosiveness when combining strength and speed, this duo is unmatched."

One of the biggest cliche's in football is the idea that a thunder and lightening tandem is the toughest to defend. Dallas basically had the physical back in Barber, and the speedy back in Jones last year, and that didn't work out, so I don't know how Felix Jones is already better than Julious Jones.

The Giants have 2 similar running backs in Bradshaw and Jacobs, just different sizes. And the Redskins have 2 similar backs that have similar styles, and they're tough to defend. Just a silly cliche'.

dallasfan
June-4th-2008, 03:55 PM
Felix Jones hasnt even run ONE down with the Boys yet and they are the great duo all of a sudden?

I think espn listed chester taylor and adrian peterson as a top 5 duo last year, fwiw.

nightbird
June-4th-2008, 04:01 PM
You know something, I retract my earlier comment about being pissed at media disrespect for the Skins.

This has nothing to do with leaving Portis/Betts off the list.

This is about how I, with a full-time job while pursuing an MBA at night, keeping my wife happy and raising a two-year-old, STILL know more about the NFL than this "professional."

Blatant examples of shoddy work just piss me off, so I'm in full hate mode on this guy and ESPN right now. Plus, he probably gets paid more than me, and that jabs me in the ribs.

Back to regularly scheduled programming.

slogriff
June-4th-2008, 04:42 PM
Seattle??? Julius Jones is a damn chump who can't hold a football, and Duckett hits the hole like a tipsy party girl in high heels.


Im glad JJ is gone and wouldn't defend his overall performance the past 2 years but the guy didn't have a problem holding onto the football.

Over the past 2 years, he had 463 touches with just 1 fumble.

I looked up 3 pretty good RBs (Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton, Ladanian Tomlinson) and all of them fumbled more frequently than JJ has over his career.

BigMike619
June-4th-2008, 04:45 PM
I think espn listed chester taylor and adrian peterson as a top 5 duo last year, fwiw.

your opinion is worth something to me but that stat isnt. chester taylor?

he is no scrub but he sure as heck isnt a top RB. and last year AD was a rookie just like Felix. It gets me how they can say a rookie who has NEVER even ran one down in an actual NFL game is going to blow up. :doh:

scruffylookin
June-4th-2008, 05:30 PM
Sorry, I just don't understand the facination with Marion Barber. He's shown nothing that makes me think he's anything special. All I see is a guy who ran for negative yards against the Skins in the last game of the season when his offensive line failed to open holes for him.

Elite backs make yards even when the blocking is at times suspect.........like our own Clinton Portis has done.

But wait, he's a Dallas Cowboy and thus that tandem's ranking is now understandable.