SI: Don't go too Cowboys crazy

[bubba9497]

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/200393



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Don't go too Cowboys crazy

Bring in Denny Green, because apparently everyone is ready to crown the Cowboys. The latest wave of adulation for the 'Boys comes on the tails of news that they re-signed Terrell Owens and Pacman Jones is partially reinstated.

T.O. is an outstanding player and the Cowboys are definitely a weaker team without him. But don't get too excited about his four-year, $34 million contract. How many playoff games has Owens won in Dallas? (zero) How old is he? (35) How often has he been hurt? (often). How emotional is he? (postgame tears).

The recent drying up of the receiver free-agent pool might have given the Cowboys little choice but to extend Owens. But there's still a lot of risk. At his age, he's not going to get less injury prone. And how many times have we seen players sign big contracts and subsequently get hurt.

Several writers have speculated this contract extension is insurance to make sure he doesn't get upset with the team. To even suggest that points to Owens' capricious nature. Although he's behaved fine in Dallas - except for run-ins with Bill Parcells, his vitamin overdoes and an ill-timed Jessica Simpson joke - his fiery days in Philadelphia aren't that far behind him. That was only three years ago. I have trouble believing players arrive in Dallas and completely transform themselves just by wearing the star. Which brings us to ...

Deion Sanders II. That's what Pacman Jones better be to justify all the headlines he's gotten. Finding the chemistry to win a Super Bowl is an elusive assignment, which seems to have a lot more to it than just talent. Whatever the perfect mix is, Pacman doesn't move the Cowboys in the right direction.

Dallas is a good team. But stop the offseason coronation. Where's the skepticism? This is T.O. and Pacman we're talking about. And I haven't even gotten to Wade Phillips or the loss of Tony Sparano. Not to mention the brutal NFC East.

[Genghis Khan]

I think people are making too big a deal about some of this stuff. The Owens four year signing isn't that bad. I don't think they should have acquired pacman jones cause they don't really need him. The only thing the cowboys should really worried about is the lost of Sparano and very high expectations.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Who's crowning Dallas champs? Everywhere I turn I hear caution and warning that Dallas must play better in December and of course in the postseason.

[DWinzit]

Who's crowning Dallas champs? You know, same crap as last year.

[Riggo#44]

Who's crowning Dallas champs? Everywhere I turn I hear caution and warning that Dallas must play better in December and of course in the postseason.

Have you read ESPN lately??

[THEHEREAFTER]

You know, same crap as last year.

This doesn't come close to answering the question Dwinzit.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Have you read ESPN lately??

Actually I haven't Riggo? Surely you have a link or two handy right?

[phatSkins27]

Have you read ESPN lately??

they should change the name of NFL Live to "Kiss the Butt of Dallas Show"

Dallas Sucks:dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck

[[[ghost]]]

Who's crowning Dallas champs?

Everyone and their mom is. Where have you been?

The only ones logical enough to realize your December-and-On struggles generally post on ATNFL.

[Riggo#44]

Actually I haven't Riggo? Surely you have a link or two handy right?

Check out the power rankings -- they are ranked no lower then 5. Above several teams that have actually won a playoff game since Clinton...

[THEHEREAFTER]

Check out the power rankings -- they are ranked no lower then 5. Above several teams that have actually won a playoff game since Clinton...


Cute but logically what does a particular team winning a playoff game in say, 2003 have to do with THIS YEARS projections? Nobody should give Dallas worse than a top 5 ranking looking at them objectively in terms of talent, additions, losses, health, draft etc. Further, a top 5 ranking has little to do with being crowned champs.


The Giants proved that past failures don't necessarily project from year to year. Eli started his playoff career 0-2. Denver went 13-3 and had the #1 seed in '97 I believe only to lose to Brunnell and the Jags in the first round. They went on to win the next two Super Bowls.

[bubba9497]

Who's crowning Dallas champs?


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


the question is WHO ISN'T?


come on THA, you can spin better than this..... Articles all over the net about the Pokes... best talent in the NFL, posed to make the Super Bowl, Power Ranking, best OL, best secondary, best RB tandem, ..... ....:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

there's more than enough articles in ATN to prove it.... as you know :laugh:

keep trying to play it down...but come January it will be just as painful and embarrassing for poke fans as last year.... heck the past dozen years :D

[THEHEREAFTER]

]']Everyone and their mom is. Where have you been?

Perhaps I've missed something? I'll admit that but nobody is giving me any evidence or even names. All I'm seeing is generalizations?


The only ones logical enough to realize your December-and-On struggles generally post on ATNFL.

Logic or pure hatred? What else are you going to say? We've struggled late in the year of late but a lot of teams/players face and overcome challenges. Do you logically believe that we'll never win another playoff game ever? Actually, don't answer that. :silly:

[DWinzit]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


the question is WHO ISN'T?


come on THA, you can spin better than this..... Articles all over the net about the Pokes... best talent in the NFL, posed to make the Super Bowl, Power Ranking, best OL, best secondary, best RB tandem, ..... ....:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

there's more than enough articles in ATN to prove it.... as you know :laugh:

keep trying to play it down...but come January it will be just as painful and embarrassing for poke fans as last year.... heck the past dozen years :DI had to do a double take. I thought it was BigD posting for a second.

[THEHEREAFTER]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


the question is WHO ISN'T?

All I'm asking is who has crowned Dallas champs? Seriously. I'll admit I hear a lot of hype but I hear just as much caution about team chemistry, post season failures etc.


come on THA, you can spin better than this..... Articles all over the net about the Pokes... best talent in the NFL, posed to make the Super Bowl, Power Ranking, best OL, best secondary, best RB tandem, ..... ....:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

there's more than enough articles in ATN to prove it.... as you know :laugh:

keep trying to play it down...but come January it will be just as painful and embarrassing for poke fans as last year.... heck the past dozen years :D

Once again, I hear a lot of accolades about talent and so on but I hear a lot of negative as well. If I'm playing it down, you're playing it up when convenient. Are there not articles in ATN to prove what I'm saying.

[Riggo#44]

All I'm asking is who has crowned Dallas champs? Seriously. I'll admit I hear a lot of hype but I hear just as much caution about team chemistry, post season failures etc.

Rick Goselin for one (I know I butchered his last name). #1 in the NFL? I think not

Once again, I hear a lot of accolades about talent and so on but I hear a lot of negative as well. If I'm playing it down, you're playing it up when convenient. Are there not articles in ATN to prove what I'm saying.

Like I said -- all of the pre-season power rankings ahve the Cowboys listed no lower then 5th

[bubba9497]

Once again, I hear a lot of accolades about talent and so on but I hear a lot of negative as well. If I'm playing it down, you're playing it up when convenient. Are there not articles in ATN to prove what I'm saying.


:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:


Do you actually think that spin is going to fly?

every football news sight, tv show, magazine, has had hardly anything besides the Pokes greatness bs all off season

how about posting all these stories or links to articles saying the Pokes are going to stink, last in the NFC East etc....

even articles questioning certain aspects that maybe a problem, still have the Pokes making a run

[bubba9497]

I had to do a double take. I thought it was BigD posting for a second.



:wtf:

I didn't say I agreed with them :laugh:

[dizzinator53]

Actually I haven't Riggo? Surely you have a link or two handy right?

http://www.online-gambling-insider.com/online-gambling/ogi-online-sportsbook-betus.com-posts-2009-nfl-odds-04-18-08.html - Vegas



http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/jagswinbig08/2008/03/25/My_20082009_NFL_Season_Predictions - Fox Sports.com

http://www.capperspicks.com/2008/nfl/giants-nfc-east-predictions.php - Handicapper.


http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/StreetCred/2007/05/29/NFC_East_Predictions - Street Cred


http://www.betvega.com/sports-betting/2008-nfc-east-divsion-predictions.html - Bet Vega.com





Now Shut Up.

[bubba9497]

http://www.online-gambling-insider.com/online-gambling/ogi-online-sportsbook-betus.com-posts-2009-nfl-odds-04-18-08.html - Vegas



http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/jagswinbig08/2008/03/25/My_20082009_NFL_Season_Predictions - Fox Sports.com

http://www.capperspicks.com/2008/nfl/giants-nfc-east-predictions.php - Handicapper.


http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/StreetCred/2007/05/29/NFC_East_Predictions - Street Cred


http://www.betvega.com/sports-betting/2008-nfc-east-divsion-predictions.html - Bet Vega.com





Now Shut Up.



OMG :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Now that was funny! :applause:

[THEHEREAFTER]

http://www.online-gambling-insider.com/online-gambling/ogi-online-sportsbook-betus.com-posts-2009-nfl-odds-04-18-08.html - Vegas



http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/jagswinbig08/2008/03/25/My_20082009_NFL_Season_Predictions - Fox Sports.com

http://www.capperspicks.com/2008/nfl/giants-nfc-east-predictions.php - Handicapper.


http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/StreetCred/2007/05/29/NFC_East_Predictions - Street Cred


http://www.betvega.com/sports-betting/2008-nfc-east-divsion-predictions.html - Bet Vega.com



Nice but I wasn't looking for division predictions. Only one of these links has really placed Dallas in the SB. My point all along is that you can find just as many doubters and critics as you can find those singing our praises.

[THEHEREAFTER]

how about posting all these stories or links to articles saying the Pokes are going to stink, last in the NFC East etc....



Seriously Bubba... you live here. No need to post any of that. :)


I haven't read anybody predicting we will "stink" or "finish last" unless it's Skip Bayless. I do see plenty of doubt and criticism as well. You and buddy post every article like this you can find. You should know better.

[dizzinator53]

Nice but I wasn't looking for division predictions. Only one of these links has really placed Dallas in the SB. My point all along is that you can find just as many doubters and critics as you can find those singing our praises.


Oh, Get off it man! I give you proof and you spun it harder than a Dreidel. The media thinks the Cowboys are America's sweethearts! The rest of the league treats them like America's jiz rag in Playoff games. There is some strange fixation with the Cowboys and you are either blind, stupid, or spinning it to not look like an ass if you claim not to see it. I would vote for all three, but seeing as how this is a welcoming message board....

[dizzinator53]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248512


Here is some more Cowboys Love from the World Wide Leader in Bias (Sportsline, ESPN, ABC.) We must be Republican, because Fox is the only one that shows us any love.


It so funny to me to read his description of the Redskins O-Line and how he says they are solid as hell, then ranks them 16th. Maybe he is getting a little guidance from Conn..

[THEHEREAFTER]

Oh, Get off it man! I give you proof and you spun it harder than a Dreidel. The media thinks the Cowboys are America's sweethearts! The rest of the league treats them like America's jiz rag in Playoff games. There is some strange fixation with the Cowboys and you are either blind, stupid, or spinning it to not look like an ass if you claim not to see it. I would vote for all three, but seeing as how this is a welcoming message board....

Dude, you go to a Cowboys site and the media hates us, Godelle hates us. It's the same with every fan base. You choose to see what you want to see. I see PLENTY of analyst picking apart the Cowboys in certain areas with doubts that we can get it done in Dec/January. Dallas has been in the news plenty (although not all good) and we've been getting some hype. I'm not disputing this. I just don't there are as many "crowning us champs" as led to believe. That's my point all along.

[VCDefectors]

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:


Do you actually think that spin is going to fly?

every football news sight, tv show, magazine, has had hardly anything besides the Pokes greatness bs all off season

how about posting all these stories or links to articles saying the Pokes are going to stink, last in the NFC East etc....

even articles questioning certain aspects that maybe a problem, still have the Pokes making a run

One line of spin is not better or worse than any other. For months, several rival fans have spun gloom and doom about the Cowboys without any real offseason evidence of anything. Entertaining as some of it is, most of it amounts to spin.

So, my advice to those rival fans who loathe the Cowboys and find all of the Cowboys media love gut-wrenching...take a look at your own spin for a change and stop whining about the spin of others. :2cents:

[BigDFan5]

This blog writer gonna be kind of upset come January

[dizzinator53]

One line of spin is not better or worse than any other. For months, several rival fans have spun gloom and doom about the Cowboys without any real offseason evidence of anything. Entertaining as some of it is, most of it amounts to spin.

So, my advice to those rival fans who loathe the Cowboys and find all of the Cowboys media love gut-wrenching...take a look at your own spin for a change and stop whining about the spin of others. :2cents:

Nobody Spins in our house.... nobody:silly:

[bubba9497]

One line of spin is not better or worse than any other. For months, several rival fans have spun gloom and doom about the Cowboys without any real offseason evidence of anything. Entertaining as some of it is, most of it amounts to spin.


:rolleyes: you guys kill me, always trying to twist it back on Skin fans.....

please spare us the "I'm rubber your glue" defense

1. Redskin posters threads do not represent the national media.... which was the article point of contention

2. Most threads pointing out flaws in the poke greatness bs, has been based in facts and logic.... hardly what is classified as spin

3. Physician heal thyself

[VCDefectors]

:rolleyes: you guys kill me, always trying to twist it back on Skin fans.....

please spare us the "I'm rubber your glue" defense

You guys do it to yourself. Need proof? We can start with all of the Jerry is broke threads.

1. Redskin posters threads do not represent the national media.... which was the article point of contention

Yes, but who is whining about it here? Thank you.

2. Most threads pointing out flaws in the poke greatness bs, has been based in facts and logic.... hardly what is classified as spin

Such as Romo, a QB who threw for 4,211 yards and 36 yards, being an average QB? Or a backup RB who ran for 975 yards being vastly overrated. Or how about the "inevitable time-bomb" T.O. signing an extension? Yeah, great fact-finding and execution of logic :doh: .

3. Physician heal thyself

I wasn't the one whining about media spin. They are all just opinions, nothing more, nothing less.

[tr1]

Nice but I wasn't looking for division predictions. Only one of these links has really placed Dallas in the SB. My point all along is that you can find just as many doubters and critics as you can find those singing our praises.

OFCS, come on THA.

Don't pull crap like this...I post articles about the 'greatness' of the pukes all the time.

Haven't you been paying attention?

[tr1]

You guys do it to yourself. Need proof? We can start with all of the Jerry is broke threads.



Yes, but who is whining about it here? Thank you.



Such as Romo, a QB who threw for 4,211 yards and 36 yards, being an average QB? Or a backup RB who ran for 975 yards being vastly overrated. Or how about the "inevitable time-bomb" T.O. signing an extension? Yeah, great fact-finding and execution of logic :doh: .



I wasn't the one whining about media spin. They are all just opinions, nothing more, nothing less.

Please, direct your criticisms at me...not my fellow Skins fans. I started the Jerruh is broke thread...something that wasn't refuted successfully at the time. I started the Romoridinary threads...again, proven true by his choking-dog behavior in big games...

And, I told everyone MB is an NFCE chump...who disappears in division games, goes over 100 against weak run defenses, and basically didn't deserve that kind of money.

And, when the losing begins, TO's meds will no longer work...trust me.

[VCDefectors]

Please, direct your criticisms at me...not my fellow Skins fans. I started the Jerruh is broke thread...something that wasn't refuted successfully at the time. I started the Romoridinary threads...again, proven true by his choking-dog behavior in big games...

And, I told everyone MB is an NFCE chump...who disappears in division games, goes over 100 against weak run defenses, and basically didn't deserve that kind of money.

And, when the losing begins, TO's meds will no longer work...trust me.

There were several Redskins that went along and even added to your plethra of gloom and doom spins about the Cowboys. So, yes they should share in such criticisms if they are warranted.

And again, I don't have any problem with rival fans not going along with the (seeming) Cowboys love in the media right now. I merely pointed out the hypocricy of griping about media spin when a lot of it goes on right here.

[tr1]

There were several Redskins that went along and even added to your plethra of gloom and doom spins about the Cowboys. So, yes they should share in such criticisms if they are warranted.

And again, I don't have any problem with rival fans not going along with the (seeming) Cowboys love in the media right now. I merely pointed out the hypocricy of griping about media spin when a lot of it goes on right here.

Most of the articles I post are rarely critical of the pukes...fortunately, I'm able to add some objective commentary at the beginning of those articles.

[bubba9497]

here's just one with 3 people thinking the Pokes will be in the Super Bowl


"The pieces are definitely there to go ahead and finish the way we want to," linebacker Greg Ellis says.

They are considered early favorites to represent the NFC in Super Bowl XLIII.

"They're so close," CBS analyst Boomer Esiason says. "The Cowboys, Seattle and the Giants should be the best three teams in the NFC."


http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248050

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/cowboys/2008-05-27-sw-cover_N.htm

[bubba9497]

uch as Romo, a QB who threw for 4,211 yards and 36 yards, being an average QB? Or a backup RB who ran for 975 yards being vastly overrated. Or how about the "inevitable time-bomb" T.O. signing an extension? Yeah, great fact-finding and execution of logic


you mean where it has been pointed out with stats how Romo has chocked when it counted.... Dec & in the playoffs


or a backup RB, who needing less than 30 yards in his last game to break 1000 yards, but rushed for negative yardage? or posted stats showing how he stunk against NFCE teams avg. only 3.3 YPC and scoring only 2 TDs in 6 games...

TO? yeah detailing his history was all made up :thumbsup:


seems to me you are mistaken, or not sure what the word "facts" mean :laugh:

[BigDFan5]

The Cowboys should be a favored team to make a run they have a very good team

You ask where the articles predicting last place finishes gonna stink etc, they dont exist because the media likes to be right so why predict something that has no chance of hapening

[DWinzit]

Who's crowning Dallas champs? Everywhere I turn I hear caution and warning that Dallas must play better in December and of course in the postseason.It is the same crap as last year. The only difference is now that the Cowboys have folded 2 years running, they're throwing that caution into the mix.

[DWinzit]

:wtf:

I didn't say I agreed with them :laugh::rotflmao:

[Roger.Staubach]

Who's crowning Dallas champs?


The author who wrote this blog predicted on April 29th, that the Cowboys would represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. He's telling everyone to stop the coronation that he is taking part in.

I think that he's jealous and wants to be the one to say "I said it first! The Cowboys are the best!"

Link to April 29th article: Article (http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/185277)

[slogriff]

here's just one with 3 people thinking the Pokes will be in the Super Bowl



"They're so close," CBS analyst Boomer Esiason says."The Cowboys, Seattle and the Giants should be the best three teams in the NFC."

There are plenty of people that feel the Boys are favorites to reach the SB but to use that quote as proof Esiason thinks the Boys will be in the SB is beyond even a stretch.

Beyond the obvious of listing 3 teams, this isn't necessarily even a prediction of who will be going to the SB. I would say there are quite a few skin's fans that would agree Dallas is among the 3 best NFC teams but would not say they are going to be the NFC rep in the SB. Something about no doing well (choking) come playoff time.

[VCDefectors]

you mean where it has been pointed out with stats how Romo has chocked when it counted.... Dec & in the playoffs


or a backup RB, who needing less than 30 yards in his last game to break 1000 yards, but rushed for negative yardage? or posted stats showing how he stunk against NFCE teams avg. only 3.3 YPC and scoring only 2 TDs in 6 games...

TO? yeah detailing his history was all made up :thumbsup:


seems to me you are mistaken, or not sure what the word "facts" mean :laugh:

Cherry picking facts and patching them together to fit one's skewed agenda doesn't exactly count, IMO.

[tr1]

The Cowboys should be a favored team to make a run they have a very good team

You ask where the articles predicting last place finishes gonna stink etc, they dont exist because the media likes to be right so why predict something that has no chance of hapening

Bookmarked.

The fact is, the pukes are lousy in the division...where they should be their best...especially late in the season.

[slogriff]

Bookmarked.

The fact is, the pukes are lousy in the division...where they should be their best...especially late in the season.

Hopefully the Cowboys will improve on their divisonal best reg season record of 4-2.

If you describe the Boys performance w/in the NFCE as being "lousy", what adjective would you use if they had been 1-5 for 4 of the last 6 yrs?

Just curious.

[dizzinator53]

Such as Romo, a QB who threw for 4,211 yards and 36 yards, being an average QB? Or a backup RB who ran for 975 yards being vastly overrated. Or how about the "inevitable time-bomb" T.O. signing an extension? Yeah, great fact-finding and execution of logic :doh: .


Some very important fact that you left out of your spin:

Romo tied for 2nd in the NFL in interceptions with 19!

Marion Barber got 204 carries and Julius Jones got 164... Who is the backup again? With your logic, Ladell Betts is better than Marion Barber because of his good season when Portis got hurt.


T.O. is on a comeback soon! Did you not hear the interview where he slams Parcells the other day? He can't stand being out the limelight long.... I will admit that his behavior has been exemplary! However, with the addition of Q-bert and the focus off him, he will start to act up. If Romo starts to mess up and can't get the ball to him as opposed to the other team, you best believe that you will hear less crying for Romo and more bashing of him.

[Popeman38]

Look, anyone saying Dallas isn't being hyped by ALL the media prognosticators as SB favorites need to shut up.


Pacman participated in PRACTICE for the first time yesterday and ESPN had BREAKING NEWS that he returned an INT 80 yds for a TD. EVEN THOUGH IT WASN't FULL CONTACT 11 on 11 DRILLS! No one was going to tackle him...

When was the last time you heard of a player returning a practice INT 80 yds for a TD on the BREAKING NEWS scroll on ESPN? Please answer.

Adam Schefter has proclaimed the Cowboys as the most talented team in the NFL and is "indisputable". Ignoring an 18-1 Patriots team and the Chargers.

They are favored to win the Division. They are favored to be the #1 seed in the NFC. They are favored to represent the NFC in the SB.

Those are facts. They have been supported with links. Deny and spin all you want. 12 of the Cowboys 16 reg season games are slotted as National games this year. 75%! If that ain't on your jock, what is?

[tr1]

Hopefully the Cowboys will improve on their divisonal best reg season record of 4-2.

If you describe the Boys performance w/in the NFCE as being "lousy", what adjective would you use if they had been 1-5 for 4 of the last 6 yrs?

Just curious.

The trend isn't very impressive...

You should be afraid.

[slogriff]

Hopefully the Cowboys will improve on their divisonal best reg season record of 4-2.

If you describe the Boys performance w/in the NFCE as being "lousy", what adjective would you use if they had been 1-5 for 4 of the last 6 yrs?

Just curious.

The trend isn't very impressive...

You should be afraid.

I agree the trend of being 1-5 w/in the division isn't very impressive.

Come on, if being 4-2 w/in the division is lousy then being 1-5 w/in your 4 of the last 6 yrs division should be more more negative than "isn't very impressive".

Embarrassing would be a more appropriate description. I sure hope the Boys don't have a track record like that anytime soon.

[BigMike619]

I agree the trend of being 1-5 w/in the division isn't very impressive.

Come on, if being 4-2 w/in the division is lousy then being 1-5 w/in your 4 of the last 6 yrs division should be more more negative than "isn't very impressive".

Embarrassing would be a more appropriate description. I sure hope the Boys don't have a track record like that anytime soon.

how many playoff wins you got?

[ucfSKINS]

Who's crowning Dallas champs? Everywhere I turn I hear caution and warning that Dallas must play better in December and of course in the postseason.

There are those who err on the side of caution. However, there are many more that have the Cowfags in the Super Bowl as the NFC rep.

Only time will tell...

[ucfSKINS]

The author who wrote this blog predicted on April 29th, that the Cowboys would represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. He's telling everyone to stop the coronation that he is taking part in.

I think that he's jealous and wants to be the one to say "I said it first! The Cowboys are the best!"

Link to April 29th article: Article (http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/185277)

Oh he'll be the first...to be wrong :D

[slogriff]

how many playoff wins you got?

The Cowboys have an NFL record 32 playoff wins. Thanks for asking.

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