Someone please explain to me......

[One Shot]

How can a guy be this good at guitar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqPCuH4lbH8&feature=related

I think this guy is top 10 in history, no doubt, and MAYBE even top 5. Makes me feel completely worthless as a guitarist.

oh, and same song live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzXywTzN0Gk&NR=1



and this one is QUITE a ****ing experience if I may say so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDZuNM3HmU4&feature=related

[bschurm]

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[BigMike619]

And to think, Ralph Macchio outplayed him in Crossroads. :laugh:

Classic movie!! :cheers:

[joeknows]

yup steve is a badass

[joeknows]

satriani has mentored a few badasses

[skinzzfan25]

Jose Feliciano is sick... I wish I could have seen him play. Oh yeah, and he's blind for those who don't know about him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOs1HC29zh4

[One Shot]

Jose Feliciano is sick... I wish I could have seen him play. Oh yeah, and he's blind for those who don't know about him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOs1HC29zh4

Yea, I've seen that one too, that's some sick ****.

[Blackest Eyes]

satriani has mentored a few badasses

please do not tell me you are thinking of kirk hammett.

Vai is one of the best guitarists I have ever heard in my life. He unlike many popular guitarists (Dragonforce's Herman Li & Dream Theater's John Petrucci come to mind) do not know when to turn their jets off, yet everyone seems to think that playing guitar like a machine is awesome. Shredding is cool for about 10 seconds then its boring because it is the same thing repeated over and over. Vai has a great sense of melody and is an all around fantastic guitarist.

One guitarist whose life was cut entirely too short was Randy Rhoads. That is the reason I picked up a guitar. The guy was on his way to being phenominal.

[SpringfieldSkins]

Someone please explain THIS to me...


How can someone go through life without eating meat?






Just kidding OneShot, you're all good, just felt like razzing you. I didn't bother to watch the vids, got no sound right now. I'll get around to it later (after I finish this giant hamburger).

[BigMike619]

please do not tell me you are thinking of kirk hammett.

Vai is one of the best guitarists I have ever heard in my life. He unlike many popular guitarists (Dragonforce's Herman Li & Dream Theater's John Petrucci come to mind) do not know when to turn their jets off, yet everyone seems to think that playing guitar like a machine is awesome. Shredding is cool for about 10 seconds then its boring because it is the same thing repeated over and over. Vai has a great sense of melody and is an all around fantastic guitarist.

One guitarist whose life was cut entirely too short was Randy Rhoads. That is the reason I picked up a guitar. The guy was on his way to being phenominal.

Dimebag was another.

SRV was yet another.

so many go before their time.

Question though; you dont think Kirk is an accomplished guitarist?

[desioreo87]

he is making love to the guitar in the beginning and then it turns into angry sex, and then aftersex smoke. Very Cool!

[Blackest Eyes]

Dimebag was another.

SRV was yet another.

so many go before their time.

Question though; you dont think Kirk is an accomplished guitarist?

Kirk is okay. Satch has even said Kirk was pretty difficult to teach. I will say Kirk has chops and wrote some cool stuff, but I think my main issue with him is his excessive use of the wah pedal.:laugh: I just think there are more accomplished guitarists that do not get credit they deserve(Michael & Christopher Amott come to mind).

[BigMike619]

Kirk is okay. Satch has even said Kirk was pretty difficult to teach. I will say Kirk has chops and wrote some cool stuff, but I think my main issue with him is his excessive use of the wah pedal.:laugh: I just think there are more accomplished guitarists that do not get credit they deserve(Michael & Christopher Amott come to mind).

you really saying overuse of the wah pedal and NOT saying Vai? :laugh:

personally Im more the Kerry King/Dimebag/etc. fan

[Blackest Eyes]

you really saying overuse of the wah pedal and NOT saying Vai? :laugh:

personally Im more the Kerry King/Dimebag/etc. fan

Vai uses a wah pedal well. Hammett's is just annoying as crap, ha.

Oh Dimebag. RIP. A sad day in metal that was. :(

I saw Vai on the G3 tour when it was Satch, Vai & Malmsteen. At the time I was a huge Yngwie fan and almost fell asleep in his set, ha. But then I caught a pick from him and I woke up. Worse part was that I was in the third row :laugh: Vai was absolutely mind blowing to watch. I would love to see him again. And Satch, well...incredible. The jam they did at the end was kind of funny because Yngwie kept trying to shred over Hendrix tunes and it was not working that well. Satch and Vai were tearing it up though. They are such soulful players. Gotta love it.

[AllAboutSkins08]

is it just me, or are his fingers long as ****!

curse me and my short, girly fingers :(

[Mad Mike]

Tender Surrender and For The Love Of God are my two favorite guitar pieces ever. For The Love Of God is one of my two favorite pieces of MUSIC ever. The other being Blue In Green by Miles Davis.

:notworthy

[gca61087]

I just think there are more accomplished guitarists that do not get credit they deserve(Michael & Christopher Amott come to mind).


love me some carcass and arch enemy. good call. the amott's are sick.

[Blackest Eyes]

love me some carcass and arch enemy. good call. the amott's are sick.
:notworthy :notworthy

[ntotoro]

please do not tell me you are thinking of kirk hammett.

He would be one of Satch's suckasses... :laugh:

Lousy vibrato, lousy tone, lousy intonation. If I were Satch, I'd try to distance myself as far from Hammett as possible.

[Blackest Eyes]

He would be one of Satch's suckasses... :laugh:

Lousy vibrato, lousy tone, lousy intonation. If I were Satch, I'd try to distance myself as far from Hammett as possible.

:laugh: if only people realized that about so many more guitar players :cough: Herman Li :cough:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Anybody else got the Eric Clapton DVD Crossroads? It has all kinds of great guitar players on it. It is a must see.

[dcnativenerd]

Great video, but if I may:
I believe Terry Kath and Jose Feliciano are some of the most under rated guitarists of all time. I know someone mentioned Feliciano earlier in the thread, which I liked (Flight of the Bumble Bee always packs a punch); but I believe Kath was an amazing musician, considering his actual music reading skills were next to none.
I just wanted to put that out there for Terry Kath since he doesn't get nearly enough respect, in my opinion.

[aszumilo]

Great guitarist and song, but, Tender Surrender has an amazing resemblance to Catch The Rainbow, by Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8x2HKTRdM

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

That's why I play bass :paranoid:

[PokerPacker]

:laugh: if only people realized that about so many more guitar players :cough: Herman Li :cough:
don't you be ragging on Herman Li, he's the man.

[Blackest Eyes]

don't you be ragging on Herman Li, he's the man.

Actually, nothing he does sounds good. He plays zero melody, and plays so fast he can't even play his own solos at tempo on his own record. Pro Tools for the win.

[edgun88]

is it just me, or are his fingers long as ****!

curse me and my short, girly fingers :(


Some aspects of guitaring are alot easier if you have long fingers.

Don't worry mine are not that long either, but they aren't girly. :laugh:

[mboyd784]

love me some carcass and arch enemy. good call. the amott's are sick.

Word. And on that note, here are two Top 5's - one Metal, one not - that contain 10 absolutely essential players, in no order. Remember, songwriting counts, always.

Top 5 Metal:

Iommi - Sabbath
Rhoads - Ozzy
Dime - Pantera
Tipton - Priest
Akerfeldt - Opeth

Top 5 other:

Gilmour - Floyd
Kreiger - Doors
Schon - Journey
Reinhardt - Jazz
Howe - Yes

[Blackest Eyes]

Akerfeldt - Opeth


Mike is an incredibly soulful player. I met him once on the Damnation tour. Incredibly nice guy. Really funny as well.

[McMetal]

Wow, I could live in this thread.

Metal guitar is my thing.

Steve is an Icon, but he'll always be a niche figure, because of his innate weirdness and inaccessible songwriting.

As far as pure, stylized metal guitar, for my money, NO ONE beats James Murphy. He is simply inhuman in his precision and dexterity.

Muhammed Suiçmez is another outstanding newcomer. Some of the riffs he composes for Necrophagist are simply unprecedented.

Final note, regarding Satch apprentices: Skolnick>>>Hammett

[PokerPacker]

Word. And on that note, here are two Top 5's - one Metal, one not - that contain 10 absolutely essential players, in no order. Remember, songwriting counts, always.

Top 5 Metal:

Iommi - Sabbath
Rhoads - Ozzy
Dime - Pantera
Tipton - Priest
Akerfeldt - Opeth

Top 5 other:

Gilmour - Floyd
Kreiger - Doors
Schon - Journey
Reinhardt - Jazz
Howe - Yes
No Yngwie Malmsteen?

[Blackest Eyes]

No Yngwie Malmsteen?

When I first got into guitar, I listened to Yngwie all the time. He is definitely a good player, but I think his attitude/ego makes him not appeal to people.

[AllAboutSkins08]

Some aspects of guitaring are alot easier if you have long fingers.

Don't worry mine are not that long either, but they aren't girly. :laugh:

:laugh: i'm not even going to fake, my fingers are very short. i'm learning guitar right now and i'm realizing how hard it is to get my fingers used to chords and just getting them in position correctly cause they're short. longer fingers would help some, but it's not gonna stop me from learning. :D

[McMetal]

When I first got into guitar, I listened to Yngwie all the time. He is definitely a good player, but I think his attitude/ego makes him not appeal to people.

Yngwie is a God. He is an All-Time HOF'er. He literally changed the way the instrument is played.

There is nothing like a maple neck scalloped fretboard.

Of course he is a bloated mysoginistic twit, but I could give a crap about his personality.

Shred trumps all.

[BigMike619]

Word. And on that note, here are two Top 5's - one Metal, one not - that contain 10 absolutely essential players, in no order. Remember, songwriting counts, always.

Top 5 Metal:

Iommi - Sabbath
Rhoads - Ozzy
Dime - Pantera
Tipton - Priest
Akerfeldt - Opeth

Top 5 other:

Gilmour - Floyd
Kreiger - Doors
Schon - Journey
Reinhardt - Jazz
Howe - Yes

No Mustaine?

he is a genuine douchebag but that guy can shred.

[Blackest Eyes]

Yngwie is a God. He is an All-Time HOF'er. He literally changed the way the instrument is played.

There is nothing like a maple neck scalloped fretboard.

Of course he is a bloated mysoginistic twit, but I could give a crap about his personality.

Shred trumps all.

Shred trumps all if you enjoy boring music that sounds like an a harmonic minor scale pattern being played in sixteenth notes at quarter note equals 150 bpm.

For the record, I enjoy Yngwie, but I cannot stand listening to him for more than 5 songs or so because its so repetitive and boring. Against guitarists like Satch & Vai, Yngwie is not all that great. Pretty sure that while a jazz guitarist such as John Scofield is not a shredder, he could outplay Yngwie any day.

I am not against shred, but when a guitarist shows a lack of musicality, its boring. This is the same reason I dislike wankish classical music too. What the crap is the point?

And for anyone who likes stupidly fast guitar, check out Michael Angelo Batio. Musical masturbation on the guitar at its finest.

[One Shot]

Shred trumps all if you enjoy boring music that sounds like an a harmonic minor scale pattern being played in sixteenth notes at quarter note equals 150 bpm.

I am not against shred, but when a guitarist shows a lack of musicality, its boring. This is the same reason I dislike wankish classical music too. What the crap is the point?

I'm gonna second that one. To many people, how fast you can play is a sign of how good you are. I disagree with that though. Sometimes I get carried away and focus on just hitting as many notes as possible rather than actually playing notes that stimulate SOME kind of emotion. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing some good ol shredding in action....but it's some players' only strong suit.

I look at a guy like Dave Gilmore, who was never much of a shredder, and I'll listen to his 1st solo on Comfortably Numb and I'm just like "mmmmm, damn...I'll put this over shredding any day".

The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart.

[PokerPacker]

I'm gonna second that one. To many people, how fast you can play is a sign of how good you are. I disagree with that though. Sometimes I get carried away and focus on just hitting as many notes as possible rather than actually playing notes that stimulate SOME kind of emotion. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing some good ol shredding in action....but it's some players' only strong suit.

I look at a guy like Dave Gilmore, who was never much of a shredder, and I'll listen to his 1st solo on Comfortably Numb and I'm just like "mmmmm, damn...I'll put this over shredding any day".

The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart.
Personally, I don't dwell on speed, but I certainly respect it. I do like fast paced songs, but the speed isn't what defines it for me. a lot what I like of his aren't even just the speedy solos, its the overall music he produces. for example, I love the spanish sound produced in Flamenco Diablo. sure, he mixes some speed in there, but its not a flat out race to the end. He's not limited to shredfests; he has great music to go with his ability.

[Blackest Eyes]

The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart.

Exactly. This is why Vai owns! :notworthy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhLdfjaYZtY

while this looks rather ridiculous it is AWESOME. I remember seeing Vai come out on stage with this thing and my jaw dropping to the ground.

[BigMike619]

I'm gonna second that one. To many people, how fast you can play is a sign of how good you are. I disagree with that though. Sometimes I get carried away and focus on just hitting as many notes as possible rather than actually playing notes that stimulate SOME kind of emotion. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing some good ol shredding in action....but it's some players' only strong suit.

I look at a guy like Dave Gilmore, who was never much of a shredder, and I'll listen to his 1st solo on Comfortably Numb and I'm just like "mmmmm, damn...I'll put this over shredding any day".

The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart.

if shredding is what it takes to be a great then you HAVE to say kerry king and jeff hannamen. those guys were killers on the guitar.

But I agree with you.

[SC_RedskinsFan]

Is this for not as popular ax men or what?

Cause IMO Clapton is GOD. :cheers:

[Blackest Eyes]

Is this for not as popular ax men or what?

Cause IMO Clapton is GOD. :cheers:

Clapton is pretty awesome. For some reason the guitar chair person at my school (Shenandoah Conservatory) hates Clapton. No clue why...but then again Dr. Caluda is a funny guy about stuff.

[ACW]

I like Hammett! :mad:

Here though is THE greatest guitarist of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_nO0F4ugss&feature=related
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[Blackest Eyes]

I like Hammett! :mad:

Here though is THE greatest guitarist of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzQb79IhoRE
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

Fixed the link for you :silly:

[Mad Mike]

I'm gonna second that one. To many people, how fast you can play is a sign of how good you are. I disagree with that though. Sometimes I get carried away and focus on just hitting as many notes as possible rather than actually playing notes that stimulate SOME kind of emotion. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing some good ol shredding in action....but it's some players' only strong suit.

I look at a guy like Dave Gilmore, who was never much of a shredder, and I'll listen to his 1st solo on Comfortably Numb and I'm just like "mmmmm, damn...I'll put this over shredding any day".

The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart.

Well put. :cheers:

[PokerPacker]

Fixed the link for you :silly:
um... end result is the same...

[Blackest Eyes]

um... end result is the same...

haha holy crap. thats weird. I'll try to fix that.

[Gracelander]

Some aspects of guitaring are alot easier if you have long fingers.


Same could be said about pleasing women ;)

But seriously, I saw Vai on David Lee Roth's 86 tour for Eat 'em and smile and loved him. But as for favorites, i'd have to say in no order

Les Paul
Dimebag
SRV
Zakk Wylde
Eddie Van Halen
Jimmy Page
Willie Dixon
Scotty Moore
:point2sky

[One Shot]

and then sometimes, you just feel like going back to the classics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNEo8OxrT8

I am forever in debt to these guys:cheers: :notworthy

[81artmonk]

Shred trumps all if you enjoy boring music that sounds like an a harmonic minor scale pattern being played in sixteenth notes at quarter note equals 150 bpm.

For the record, I enjoy Yngwie, but I cannot stand listening to him for more than 5 songs or so because its so repetitive and boring. Against guitarists like Satch & Vai, Yngwie is not all that great. Pretty sure that while a jazz guitarist such as John Scofield is not a shredder, he could outplay Yngwie any day.

I am not against shred, but when a guitarist shows a lack of musicality, its boring. This is the same reason I dislike wankish classical music too. What the crap is the point?

And for anyone who likes stupidly fast guitar, check out Michael Angelo Batio. Musical masturbation on the guitar at its finest.

Sorry but I have to disagree with you. Yngwie isn't all about speed, he is about speed and difficulty. Some of the stuff he does is not only fast but on a level of difficulty that most guitarists can't pull of that fast.

IMO it's all about your tastes. Sure he sort of is the same ol, but that is kinda why I like him. While others have left what made them famous and left fans who loved them for newer greener fields, Yngwie has made a niche with the music he loves and his fans love!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_IYe5JTZ4