View Full Version : It Seems Like Nobody is talking about Thomas....
fuadsaif123
June-25th-2008, 01:10 PM
With all this posotive talk about Kelly and the good progress that Davis is making , I personally think that some ppl arent givin Thomas his due credit. Don't get me wrong , I love what I'm hearing about Kelly and Davis , but let's not 4get that Thomas Is also a big reciver with 4.3 speed--Basically a faster Kelly -2 inches. Any Thoughts???
Rdskn4Lyf21
June-25th-2008, 01:17 PM
Who's Thomas?
;)
IbleedBnG83
June-25th-2008, 01:18 PM
It does seem there has been less talk about Thomas. I expect more from Kelly realistically only because of playing for the Sooners and being more pro ready. I think once Thomas is up to speed, he will be fantastic. I'm not expecting much from Davis as of yet.
Wakeboarder020
June-25th-2008, 01:21 PM
does this mean that Randy Thomas's jersey will now say "R. Thomas" and Devin's will read "D. Thomas"
Not cool...
fuadsaif123
June-25th-2008, 01:26 PM
does this mean that Randy Thomas's jersey will now say "R. Thomas" and Devin's will read "D. Thomas"
Not cool...
True that wouldnt b cool....i always loved randy's personality and i know hell have something 2 say about this...
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 01:26 PM
With all this posotive talk about Kelly and the good progress that Davis is making , I personally think that some ppl arent givin Thomas his due credit. Don't get me wrong , I love what I'm hearing about Kelly and Davis , but let's not 4get that Thomas Is also a big reciver with 4.3 speed--Basically a faster Kelly -2 inches. Any Thoughts???
They said he was struggling learning the NFL routes.
Thats about all I remember hearing.
downbeat87
June-25th-2008, 01:29 PM
i guess thats the problem. people wont get to see d.t's strength until them pads come on.
just wait, i feel he will be a great asset for us.
Xempt
June-25th-2008, 01:30 PM
they also said he made a few great catches in OTAs/minicamp
Shotgunner
June-25th-2008, 01:33 PM
Don't forget he's an underclassman, with one breakout year in college. It may take a whole season for him to get going. He will probably have 40-50 catches this year with maybe 5-6 td's and that's ok.
return2glory
June-25th-2008, 01:35 PM
This isn't too much of a surprise. We knew that Kelly was going to be a more NFL ready wr coming out of college. He started almost the entire time he was a Sooner, while Thomas only started his senior campaign. Thomas has great upside, but with only one solid season of football under his belt he will take a little longer to develop. However, Thomas has excellent size and speed, which should help him become a future stud at the wideout position.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 01:43 PM
Umm, who cares? as long as one of them shows up this year, I will be happy. I'm not expecting all our picks to flourish at the same time, but I do hope it comes from one of our rookie WR's.. The draft was not that long ago, did you people forget already the knock that was on Devin Thomas? He was a 1 year star for Michigan State, so it's not like he's beein playing at that level for a long time, you can't expect him to be great right away.. Like someone else said, Kelly has been a 3+ year starter and is more "pro-ready" so it's more likely it will be Kelly who has the better season or the better start.
Someone said: "So does this mean that Randy Thomas' jersey will say R.Thomas and Devin Thomas' jersey will say D.Thomas? Not cool" - How is that "not cool" You can't have two players with the same exact name plate on your time. It happens, get over it.
Spartacus87
June-25th-2008, 01:48 PM
Don't forget he's an underclassman, with one breakout year in college. It may take a whole season for him to get going. He will probably have 40-50 catches this year with maybe 5-6 td's and that's ok. Phew. 40-50 catches with 5-6 td's would be great, not just ok.
I'm expecting more around 30-40 catches with maybe 1-2 td's. He's gotta share the load with Kelly, Davis, Cooley, Randle El, and Moss.
MWCREDSKINS
June-25th-2008, 01:50 PM
It's too early. Right now I probably do expect more from Kelly next season becuase he's more of a proven player but once camp starts I'm sure Devin will impress us
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 01:50 PM
This isn't too much of a surprise. We knew that Kelly was going to be a more NFL ready wr coming out of college. He started almost the entire time he was a Sooner, while Thomas only started his senior campaign. Thomas has great upside, but with only one solid season of football under his belt he will take a little longer to develop. However, Thomas has excellent size and speed, which should help him become a future stud at the wideout position.
Exactly, thank you! Thomas is the type of player who could become a monster given better coaching and a better understanding of our offense for himself. The reason Thomas was taken so high, was because of his upside, and his combination of speed,agility,and size... It takes sometimes 3 years for a WR to become comfortable before they start really coming into their own... Sometimes, you get a rookie that will do great, but then gets in a sophmore slump.. It all differs, depending on the player.. I always thought Malcolm Kelly would be better for us than Devin Thomas (if I had to choose between the two that its)
But i'm glad we have both of them because it gives us tremendous flexibility with our offense.. I still have not forgot about Anthony Mix, who I think will be a big help to us as well.... Why can't we have our Ryan Grant in ANthony Mix in the WR spot? I think Mix will show he can do it.
Pedro
June-25th-2008, 01:51 PM
So far I've read that he has route running to learn, but we knew that so it's not a negative. He was arguably the best WR in the draft and he can't even play the position yet. He's been making good catches in traffic and has looked good according to Zorn in one on one drills. All the potential in the world and he can be brought on slowly because we have a bunch of targets to throw the ball to now.
In isolation each of our first 3 picks could have been swamped with the expectation coupled with learning the pro game. Together I really think they all have a much better chance of making the transistion. Of the 3 Thomas will be the slowest out the gate but he will be the best of a good group.
As a draft lines person I have to say Vinny may have been onto something...
JetSkins
June-25th-2008, 01:54 PM
im interested to see what thomas can do
Harwich Hog
June-25th-2008, 01:55 PM
I'd take year of sub-standard production from Thomas behind Moss, Kelly and El, if that's what it takes for him to become a better player. The good thing is with those players ahead of him (assuming they are ahead of him) it takes the pressure off.
I'd prefer Thomas sitting for a year getting used to professional ball with zero-little pressure than throwing him in the deep end.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 01:58 PM
Phew. 40-50 catches with 5-6 td's would be great, not just ok.
I'm expecting more around 30-40 catches with maybe 1-2 td's. He's gotta share the load with Kelly, Davis, Cooley, Randle El, and Moss.
I know, and this is what people seem to forget.. This isn't Madden.. It's VERY rare for a Rookie WR to come in and post 40-50 catches with 5-6tds, and I think some of the fans put unnecessary pressure on players who might not be ready right away. It seems our fans cannot stand to let a player develop, if we draft him, we want him to play, and be a start NOW... It doesn't always work that way people, in fact, more times than not, a player will go through rough times before they become a star. There is such a big learning curve especially for WR's and QB's.. The game isnt much differen't in other aspects which is why other positions are more easily transfered from college to the NFL. Mostly, the speed of the NFL is what QB's and WR's have the biggest problem adjusting to. I hear that WR's struggle against cb's in the NFL because they are so fast and aggressive. IF Malcolm Kelly or Devin Thomas post 40-50 catches with 5-6 TD's this year, I will french kiss Vinny Ceratto and Jim Zorn for picking a pro-bowl player for the next 11+ years..
Pedro
June-25th-2008, 02:00 PM
I think Mix will show he can do it.
So do I. He makes highlight reel plays on STs when wearing B&G. As game changing as they can be he's worth a roster spot for that. If we can transfer some of that mojo to the O all the better. The odd clutch catch to move the chains right when we really need it will be enough for me. We've got Moss, Portis, Cooley, Thomas, Kelly, Davis and Sellars for Offensive highlight reel plays. We need a guy that can get it done but nobody watches too intently.
That man is Anthony Mix IMO.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:01 PM
I'm sure we will send Thomas deep on occasion because I hear that the deep ball isnt what is the problem for rookie NFL WR's. I hear it's the routes that really,really give the WR's a problem.. The routes are so precise and there is such little room for error, it's hard for alot of rookie wr's to drop bad habits, and adjust.. Of course, the faster the WR can catch on the faster they will be more productive. It's as simple as that.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 02:06 PM
Mix is TALL
:doh:
Why do people actually think a guy thats caught 3 passes for 39 yards in his entire illustrious career is going to suddenly become a huge asset for our offense?
If Anthony Mix becomes anything more than special teamer who occasionally plays WR, I will french kiss my dog's ass.
the krabber
June-25th-2008, 02:12 PM
If Anthony Mix becomes anything more than special teamer who occasionally plays WR, I will french kiss my dog's ass.can i quote you on that? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:13 PM
You know how long it's been since we have drafted a legit WR that is actually worth a damn?? umm, Art Monk?? yeah... that should tell you how hard that position is to gauge. I really hope we scored big with our first 5 picks in this years draft, if so, it will help us out tremendously in the future.. I just want us to have our own "T.O" or CHad Johnson Or Roy Williams... Look at all the great teams.. They ALL have a great passing game. That's the way the rules of the league lean toward, passing. So you build your team around what is protected(the league protects QB's and WR's alot more than any other position) If we can get our own Burress, T.J Housmansada, etc we will be a hard team to beat... Imagine if last year, we had just 1 extra TD every game we played, im pretty sure we would have won 80% of those games with that extra TD.. I mean come on.. It's obvious what is needed these days to win and I just hope our yougins turn out to be those guys.
Harwich Hog
June-25th-2008, 02:13 PM
Mix is TALL
:wavetowel
tml6157
June-25th-2008, 02:15 PM
How do we know how good Thomas was doing? Every bit of coverage we heard from OTAs was about who wasn't practicing instead of who was and how they were doing.
Don't read into much as far as Kelly being impressive. He isn't going up against Springs or Rogers. He is up against Smoot, Tryon, Torrence and a bunch of other camp fodder or practice squad players. I want to hear how he does against our best before i read too much into it. Not hating on him cuz i love our draft picks but we need to see him in TC with pads on first.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 02:18 PM
can i quote you on that? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Go for it, Mix will not have a serious impact as a WR for the Redskins.
I'd love for him to succeed but he's a special teamer at best.
IbleedBnG83
June-25th-2008, 02:18 PM
I'm actually more concerned about Moss and ARE. I want Moss to stay healthy and be on point with JCam to be back in prime form. ARE looked great last year while Moss was sinking. I really hopes he takes his game to another level and earn that money we are paying him. I have no doubt Kelly and Thomas will come along. If not this year, the next.
Pedro
June-25th-2008, 02:22 PM
How do we know how good Thomas was doing? Every bit of coverage we heard from OTAs was about who wasn't practicing instead of who was and how they were doing.
Zorn talked about a lot of stuff. You should check out his daily vids whenever we have official practise.
Don't read into much as far as Kelly being impressive. He isn't going up against Springs or Rogers. He is up against Smoot, Tryon, Torrence and a bunch of other camp fodder or practice squad players. I want to hear how he does against our best before i read too much into it. Not hating on him cuz i love our draft picks but we need to see him in TC with pads on first.
He doesn't have to beat Springs or Rogers today nor be able to shine against our best. Whilst we all hope to see signs of progression from college to pro player I hope you realise he shouldn't be expected to beat our best in his first season. Which we are a way from even starting yet :laugh:
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:23 PM
And you are 20.. your point is? I'm curious why the Giants, yes the superbowl giants, were scrambling to sign mix to a 3 year deal as soon as they gound out we found him on their PS?? I mean if he sucked, why would it matter?? Also, why does he get praise from everyone who works with him, but people like you, who don't know ****, think they know everything about a player by his past performance?? Facts are, you don't know ****, and if I was you, I would be cleaning your dogs ass right now because that's gonna be 1 hole you aren't gonna be able to give your way out of. as soon as mix catches 1 TD pass, you're done. I want pictures too. I gott remember im talking to little kids who were like 4 the last time the skins won the superbowl. ANd they want to try and tell ME i'm silly for rooting for a guy with great potential?? and yes he happens to be tall too. You know what's funny? Marshall Faulk isn't known for his first 4 years in INDY was he?? NO, because sometimes a player changing team and all that makes a huge difference. But I dont epect you to understand little guy
:laugh:
Mix is TALL
:doh:
Why do people actually think a guy thats caught 3 passes for 39 yards in his entire illustrious career is going to suddenly become a huge asset for our offense?
If Anthony Mix becomes anything more than special teamer who occasionally plays WR, I will french kiss my dog's ass.
Stew
June-25th-2008, 02:25 PM
Mix is TALL
:doh:
Why do people actually think a guy thats caught 3 passes for 39 yards in his entire illustrious career is going to suddenly become a huge asset for our offense?
If Anthony Mix becomes anything more than special teamer who occasionally plays WR, I will french kiss my dog's ass.
Risky statement if you have any intention of honoring it. ;)
Im not saying Mix will be the next Randy Moss, but i believe he has just as much potential as Thomas or Kelly. Why wouldnt he? He has some size, some speed, and he has demonstrated his effort and drive on special teams. I like his chances of making the team and contributing on offense. Maybe just one injury away until he is needed in the line up and creates a niche for himself.
Stranger things have happened.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:28 PM
Go for it, Mix will not have a serious impact as a WR for the Redskins.
I'd love for him to succeed but he's a special teamer at best.
Could you tell me my future since you seem to know what's going to happen more than anyone else?? OH please, tell me my future wise one..:laugh: \
Are you serious? You don't know that man, and who are you to say that? have you been at the practice fields seeing Mix drop passes? or get blown up? or run bad routes? The knock on him at new york was that he wasnt a special teamer and he was a raw version of Burress.. Now he's only a special teamer suddenly he's with us?? give me freakin break... That's a huge compliment coming from the superbowl champs. but what do all these NFL pros know? They should just come to you!
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 02:29 PM
And you are 20.. your point is? I'm curious why the Giants, yes the superbowl giants, were scrambling to sign mix to a 3 year deal as soon as they gound out we found him on their PS?? I mean if he sucked, why would it matter?? Also, why does he get praise from everyone who works with him, but people like you, who don't know ****, think they know everything about a player by his past performance?? Facts are, you don't know ****, and if I was you, I would be cleaning your dogs ass right now because that's gonna be 1 hole you aren't gonna be able to give your way out of. as soon as mix catches 1 TD pass, you're done. I want pictures too. I gott remember im talking to little kids who were like 4 the last time the skins won the superbowl. ANd they want to try and tell ME i'm silly for rooting for a guy with great potential?? and yes he happens to be tall too. You know what's funny? Marshall Faulk isn't known for his first 4 years in INDY was he?? NO, because sometimes a player changing team and all that makes a huge difference. But I dont epect you to understand little guy
:laugh:
:laugh:
Ah, the 26 year old referring to me as 'little guy'. I know you're slow but do the math...you're not exactly that much older.
First of all, the "Mix is TALL" comment is a running joke on ES because people like you think Anthony Mix is our saving grace because he's taller than most of our WRs.
Show me where the Giants were "scrambling" to resign a practice squad player big guy, I want a link to back up your statement.
Anthony Mix has done nothing in the NFL, no one is heaping praise on him outside of homers like you on ES who are convinced he's the second coming because he's got a few inches on Moss and El. Zorn mentioned him and everyone **** themselves, suddenly Mix was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Next time you want to be a condescending little *****, do some research, find a spell check and then come talk to me.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 02:31 PM
Could you tell me my future since you seem to know what's going to happen more than anyone else?? OH please, tell me my future wise one..:laugh: \
Are you serious? You don't know that man, and who are you to say that? have you been at the practice fields seeing Mix drop passes? or get blown up? or run bad routes? The knock on him at new york was that he wasnt a special teamer and he was a raw version of Burress.. Now he's only a special teamer suddenly he's with us?? give me freakin break... That's a huge compliment coming from the superbowl champs. but what do all these NFL pros know? They should just come to you!
When did I ever claim that I'd seen him?
I'm voicing my opinion, you are making claims that you cannot back up.
Seriously, quit being such a dick.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:32 PM
Risky statement if you have any intention of honoring it. ;)
Im not saying Mix will be the next Randy Moss, but i believe he has just as much potential as Thomas or Kelly. Why wouldnt he? He has some size, some speed, and he has demonstrated his effort and drive on special teams. I like his chances of making the team and contributing on offense. Maybe just one injury away until he is needed in the line up and creates a niche for himself.
Stranger things have happened.
THANK YOU STEW!!! I myself, am wondering why this is SOO farfetched for some to see happening?? it's mostly the younger crowd, because I think if you aren't a high profile draft pick in the younger ones heads, then you aren't worthy of crap. HA! GREAT logic! right? I would not be backing Mix if I didnt honestly think he had a chance to help us out. I mean some people act like Mix is a freakin tree that has no arms and we are going to stick on the field and try to play. I mean he's a football player who has shown in limited chances that he's a good player and deserves further chances..
Spartacus87
June-25th-2008, 02:33 PM
How do we know how good Thomas was doing? Every bit of coverage we heard from OTAs was about who wasn't practicing instead of who was and how they were doing.
Don't read into much as far as Kelly being impressive. He isn't going up against Springs or Rogers. He is up against Smoot, Tryon, Torrence and a bunch of other camp fodder or practice squad players. I want to hear how he does against our best before i read too much into it. Not hating on him cuz i love our draft picks but we need to see him in TC with pads on first. And in game situations, he won't be going up against the other team's top corners either, he'll be matched against the nickel or dime backs. And if he somehow IS matched up against Newman, Samuel, or whomever, then great, because that means Moss is up against a scrub.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:34 PM
When did I ever claim that I'd seen him?
I'm voicing my opinion, you are making claims that you cannot back up.
Seriously, quit being such a dick.
:laugh:
And you're my little ball sack. Shut your mouth, you are the one who is making unfounded claims. Mix has just as good a chance as any other non-proven WR on our team. Stop acting like you know what in the hell you are talking about and i'll stop being a "dick".. But seriously, don't cry..:laugh:
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:37 PM
:2cents:
:laugh:
Ah, the 26 year old referring to me as 'little guy'. I know you're slow but do the math...you're not exactly that much older.
First of all, the "Mix is TALL" comment is a running joke on ES because people like you think Anthony Mix is our saving grace because he's taller than most of our WRs.
Show me where the Giants were "scrambling" to resign a practice squad player big guy, I want a link to back up your statement.
Anthony Mix has done nothing in the NFL, no one is heaping praise on him outside of homers like you on ES who are convinced he's the second coming because he's got a few inches on Moss and El. Zorn mentioned him and everyone **** themselves, suddenly Mix was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Next time you want to be a condescending little *****, do some research, find a spell check and then come talk to me.
could you tell me where I said he's our saving grace? and little man, you can't even buy alcohol yet, so yes, you are alot younger than me. 6-7 years is quite a difference, but I can see you are a little slow, so I will let that pass. You just keep sitting behind your little computer screen talking **** towards people on this message board. You can PM anytime you want to meet up homeboy. anytime... I dont talk **** over the internet because its pointless, but you are over 18 so I would have no problem in whoopin your little ass. Shut your punk ass up little boy.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 02:38 PM
:laugh:
And you're my little ball sack. Shut your mouth, you are the one who is making unfounded claims. Mix has just as good a chance as any other non-proven WR on our team. Stop acting like you know what in the hell you are talking about and i'll stop being a "dick".. But seriously, don't cry..:laugh:
Find me one unfounded claim I made, I was stating my opinion.
You claimed the Giants were "scrambling to resign him"--Prove it.
You said he was a "The knock on him in New York was that he wasn't a Special teamer and he was a raw version of Burress"--Prove it.
Crying? No. I generally don't let people as ignorant as you affect my day.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:40 PM
you are what 2 years removed from high school? HAHAH i already have my college degree, bought my own house, and I have two cars and a boat. Punk ass little kids have NO respect these days.. I wont hesitate to put any little punks on their backs if they think they are tough enough to talk ****. Litte punks can only bump their gums over hte internet because they are PUNKS. simple as that.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 02:42 PM
:2cents:
could you tell me where I said he's our saving grace? and little man, you can't even buy alcohol yet, so yes, you are alot younger than me. 6-7 years is quite a difference, but I can see you are a little slow, so I will let that pass. You just keep sitting behind your little computer screen talking **** towards people on this message board. You can PM anytime you want to meet up homeboy. anytime... I dont talk **** over the internet because its pointless, but you are over 18 so I would have no problem in whoopin your little ass. Shut your punk ass up little boy.
Dude, are you serious?
I was trying to have a discussion about our WR situation. You came on here calling me a little boy and generally being an *******. Now you're threatening to beat me up, but saying you don't talk **** over the internet?
If you want to discuss the Redskins, thats fine, lets talk. I asked you to back up your statements about Mix with sources. If you want to threaten me, then get lost--theres no room for that on this board.
Wakeboarder020
June-25th-2008, 02:44 PM
I'm with Darrelsmyhero on this one. Anthony Mix, if he makes the team, will be our #6 receiver unless he beats out Thrash for the #5 spot. So, that means he will come in for red zone plays where we need a tall receiver and thats a maybe.
All Zorn said was something along the lines of, " I like his size...we will have to take a look there". That's pretty much it. I think we are much better off hoping for a solid contribution from Thomas and Kelly (since they are projected to be our #3 and #4 receivers, respectively) than for our #5 or #6 receiver in Mix to make a huge impact.
ChiefPowhatan17
June-25th-2008, 02:44 PM
OK, well back to Devin Thomas. I like the fact that the park is quiet about him, hopefully we will have a small bit of surprise attack come September.
Devin Thomas, was not even in any of my draft classes from NCAA 08 to Madden 08, I couldn't find him, either he didn't make the cut for the draft class 2008 or 2009, or he was drafted and didn't make a team, but I searched for him, but I guess I will just have to make him. But, I am in 2012 now, so he could be out of the league on my Franchise mode.
terpfan
June-25th-2008, 02:44 PM
you are what 2 years removed from high school? HAHAH i already have my college degree, bought my own house, and I have two cars and a boat. Punk ass little kids have NO respect these days.. I wont hesitate to put any little punks on their backs if they think they are tough enough to talk ****. Litte punks can only bump their gums over hte internet because they are PUNKS. simple as that.
You sure do sound mature!
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:45 PM
Find me one unfounded claim I made, I was stating my opinion.
You claimed the Giants were "scrambling to resign him"--Prove it.
You said he was a "The knock on him in New York was that he wasn't a Special teamer and he was a raw version of Burress"--Prove it.
Crying? No. I generally don't let people as ignorant as you affect my day.
No thank you, I'm not going to prove something I already know is true. Someone will prove it for me. EVERYONE knows that the giants offered Mix a 3 year contract as soon as they heard we were going to sign him, but him and his agent, saw he had a better chance to play on our team. The Giants said the ONLY reason he was on the practice squad because was a "raw version of Burrress" They said he didnt play special teams when he was on the Giants and thats why he didnt automatically have a roster spot. It's not hard to do some reasearch. If you think im lying, then you go look it up and find out. I dont have to prove anything to your little ass:laugh:
Wakeboarder020
June-25th-2008, 02:45 PM
hahahaha I just read all of those posts about your two cars a boat and a house. Congratulations. This is a blog where people post their opinions and usually use EVIDENCE to back it up. You're being ridiculous.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:47 PM
OK, well back to Devin Thomas. I like the fact that the park is quiet about him, hopefully we will have a small bit of surprise attack come September.
Devin Thomas, was not even in any of my draft classes from NCAA 08 to Madden 08, I couldn't find him, either he didn't make the cut for the draft class 2008 or 2009, or he was drafted and didn't make a team, but I searched for him, but I guess I will just have to make him. But, I am in 2012 now, so he could be out of the league on my Franchise mode.
I think with D. Thomas, it's just a matter of WHEN. When he does catch on, watch out, because he is going to be dangerous. especially if he lives up to his hype.. I'm eager to see his progression:2cents:
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 02:49 PM
Risky statement if you have any intention of honoring it. ;)
Im not saying Mix will be the next Randy Moss, but i believe he has just as much potential as Thomas or Kelly. Why wouldnt he? He has some size, some speed, and he has demonstrated his effort and drive on special teams. I like his chances of making the team and contributing on offense. Maybe just one injury away until he is needed in the line up and creates a niche for himself.
Stranger things have happened.
Mix does have potential, but I'd just honestly be shocked if he really gets some playing time. The Giants did a good job of getting the most out of their players, look at what happened when Shockey went down and how they subbed D-lineman in and out. Their WR core wasn't overly impressive outside of Buress, who was always hurt. I think that if Mix was as good as some people think he might be, he would have seen more time on the field.
Now, I won't actually be kissing any doggy behind (Yeah yeah so I'm a flip-flopper, sue me) if Mix succeeds--in fact I'd love to see him do it, but I just don't see it happening.
The one point that our local troll who is threatening to assault me over the internet did make is about a change of scenery. Sometimes a new team, new coach, new offense etc will do wonders for a guy--and lets not forget Mix played with JC in college. All this together makes him an interesting prospect but honestly I think we're gonna see more of Thrash at WR than Mix.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:50 PM
hahahaha I just read all of those posts about your two cars a boat and a house. Congratulations. This is a blog where people post their opinions and usually use EVIDENCE to back it up. You're being ridiculous.
Look at the ages of all "Darrellsmyhero28" little cheerleaders, all young punks. GO back and read a little further before you jump into something
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:53 PM
Mix does have potential, but I'd just honestly be shocked if he really gets some playing time. The Giants did a good job of getting the most out of their players, look at what happened when Shockey went down and how they subbed D-lineman in and out. Their WR core wasn't overly impressive outside of Buress, who was always hurt. I think that if Mix was as good as some people think he might be, he would have seen more time on the field.
Now, I won't actually be kissing any doggy behind (Yeah yeah so I'm a flip-flopper, sue me) if Mix succeeds--in fact I'd love to see him do it, but I just don't see it happening.
The one point that our local troll who is threatening to assault me over the internet did make is about a change of scenery. Sometimes a new team, new coach, new offense etc will do wonders for a guy--and lets not forget Mix played with JC in college. All this together makes him an interesting prospect but honestly I think we're gonna see more of Thrash at WR than Mix.
Troll?? Kid, my family and I have been Redskin fans before you were even a thought. If you want respect, you need to show some. You were the ******* who started talking ****, now you act like some little punk like you are. worthless kids. Go do something with your life
Now you're saying Mix HAS potential?? haha oh my.. which is it? does he suck? or does he have potential? stick to one and stand by it
Dracula
June-25th-2008, 02:58 PM
:redpunch: .....FINISH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!
phatSkins27
June-25th-2008, 02:58 PM
Kelly is more polished than Thomas but Thomas will probably be better long term. They are both good prospects and teh best part is niether have to come in and be the Guy from day they can play behind Moss, Randel El and Thrash whil learning the NFL game a little at a time and then make a big splash in a year or two
Theya re not teh same nor the same type of WR. While Devin Thomas is faster he is thicker and more stout while Malcom kelly is softer hands(better catching) and is more lanky like a basketball player
I think they could make 40-50 catches with 5-6 td's combined this year if they stay healthy and Jason continues to develop.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 02:59 PM
Anthony Mix worked as the Redskins' third receiver during the team's first minicamp practice of the offseason Friday.
He also saw "several reps" with the first unit of Antwaan Randle El and Santana Moss. Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly didn't run with the starters, but it's early. Mix made an impressive one-handed grab on the first day.
Coach Jim Zorn reiterated the Redskins' intentions to give Anthony Mix a "hard look" during offseason workouts.http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gif"He didn't get to do a lot last year. Maybe (it was) because he was young," Zorn said. The Redskins like Mix's 6'5/235-pound build in their new West Coast offense, but he isn't a lock for major minutes in 2008, particularly if Washington uses a high pick on a wideout. Mix is basically a rookie himself.http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifSource: Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080415/SPORTS01/298860710/1005/SPORTS)http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifhttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/grey.gifhttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifhttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/square_sports_mid.gif Mar. 26, 2008 - 8:57 a.m. EThttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifRedskins executive VP of football operations Vinny Cerrato singled out WR Anthony Mix for praise while discussing the team's receiving corps.http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gif"I like him," Cerrato said. "We're going to give him a chance to show us what he can do." Mix was a college teammate of QB Jason Campbell, and the team wants to learn more about his skills to see if he can fill their need for a big wide receiver.http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifSource: Washington Post (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/)http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifhttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/grey.gifhttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifhttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/square_sports_mid.gif Nov. 20, 2007 - 1:27 p.m. EThttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifRedskins signed WR Anthony Mix off the Giants practice squad.http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifThe Redskins have had had injuries at receiver and have been looking to add a big target. The 6-5 Mix is not likely to have a fantasy impact this season, but the former Auburn Tiger is now reunited with his college quarterback Jason Campbell.http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifSource: Newark Star-Ledger (http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/2007/11/redskins_sign_mix.html)http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifhttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/grey.gifhttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifhttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/square_sports_mid.gif Oct. 4, 2007 - 5:00 p.m. EThttp://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifGiants re-signed WR Anthony Mix to the practice squad.http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/images/clear.gifThe Giants made out well here. While Mix can still be signed by a team willing to open a spot on its active roster for him, he's New York property for now. The Giants can also match any team's offer if they feel Mix is worth it.
http://fantasybaseball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=NFL&id=4500
ucfSKINS
June-25th-2008, 03:02 PM
no news is good news :whoknows:
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 03:02 PM
Now you're saying Mis HAS potential?? haha oh my.. which is it? does he suck? or does he have potential? stick to one and stand by it
I'm not even going to respond to the rest of your post.
Theres a difference between potential and output.
Ryan Leaf had potential, so did Westbrook and Tony Mandarich.But they were complete and total busts in the NFL.
I think Mix has potential, I don't think he'll be a huge part of our offense this year because I don't think he's very good.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 03:04 PM
MIX WASNT EVEN DRAFTED, how can you even compare him to Ryan Leaf and Those guys?? lol You just don't seem to understand.
J-bomb
June-25th-2008, 03:05 PM
Mix does have potential, but I'd just honestly be shocked if he really gets some playing time. The Giants did a good job of getting the most out of their players, look at what happened when Shockey went down and how they subbed D-lineman in and out. Their WR core wasn't overly impressive outside of Buress, who was always hurt. I think that if Mix was as good as some people think he might be, he would have seen more time on the field.
Now, I won't actually be kissing any doggy behind (Yeah yeah so I'm a flip-flopper, sue me) if Mix succeeds--in fact I'd love to see him do it, but I just don't see it happening.
The one point that our local troll who is threatening to assault me over the internet did make is about a change of scenery. Sometimes a new team, new coach, new offense etc will do wonders for a guy--and lets not forget Mix played with JC in college. All this together makes him an interesting prospect but honestly I think we're gonna see more of Thrash at WR than Mix.
I guess I'll add my :2cents: the only reason the giants let him go is they didn't want to take a chance and see if mix could play ST's so they waived him and brought in Hixon, who is known for his ST's play! Plus when your the 4th and 5th WR on the depth chart you better be able to do something else or teams will cut you, now how he plays this year will determine his future with the team but only time will tell!
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 03:06 PM
...he isn't a lock for major minutes in 2008, particularly if Washington uses a high pick on a wideout... The 6-5 Mix is not likely to have a fantasy impact this season
You're proving my point for me, and not backing up anything you said.
Where does it say the Giants were "scrambling to resign him" and where does it say that he's a "raw Plaxico Burress"
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 03:06 PM
Fantasy Analysis
Mix was hot in the preseason last summer with the Giants but failed to make the cut even though he's a slower version of Plaxico Burress. Mix is worth a look as a late-round flier in the deepest of standard and dynasty/keeper Fantasy Football leagues at this point, but another good preseason could vault him into the end of all drafts by late August.
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417023
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 03:07 PM
MIX WASNT EVEN DRAFTED, how can you even compare him to Ryan Leaf and Those guys?? lol You just don't seem to understand.
:doh:
I was making a point about the difference between potential and actual performance, not comparing him to them.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 03:08 PM
You're proving my point for me, and not backing up anything you said.
Where does it say the Giants were "scrambling to resign him" and where does it say that he's a "raw Plaxico Burress"
oh my.... I did a search on google and foudn this stuff just right now. I dont remember the exact pages I found where all that was said but I read it with my own eyes and I know everything I said is true.
and MIx not being a lock for 2008 minutes isnt a big suprise to anyone.. You are acting like we drafted the guy or something. are you serious?
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 03:08 PM
Fantasy Analysis
Mix was hot in the preseason last summer with the Giants but failed to make the cut even though he's a slower version of Plaxico Burress. Mix is worth a look as a late-round flier in the deepest of standard and dynasty/keeper Fantasy Football leagues at this point, but another good preseason could vault him into the end of all drafts by late August.
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417023
Ok, now there you go, one site said they thought he was a "slow version of Burress".
Thats different than raw, however. Raw skills is like when a rookie comes into the league and has the speed and strength but doesn't have the technique quite down right. A "slow" Plax seems like Special Teams fodder to me.
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 03:09 PM
:doh:
I was making a point about the difference between potential and actual performance, not comparing him to them.
Okay, so you think Mix has pontential, but you dont think he's very good?? I dont get it?
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 03:10 PM
Ok, now there you go, one site said they thought he was a "slow version of Burress".
Thats different than raw, however. Raw skills is like when a rookie comes into the league and has the speed and strength but doesn't have the technique quite down right. A "slow" Plax seems like Special Teams fodder to me.
ANY KIND of version of Burress.. WHo gives a ****?? Raw or SLOW. You obviously just dont want to get it. so whatever
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 03:11 PM
Okay, so you think Mix has pontential, but you dont think he's very good?? I dont get it?
Do you know what the definition of potential is?
I referenced the draft picks because people thought they were going to be good, they had the potential to be good.
But they didn't pan out...they sucked. I don't think Mix will pan out.
ucfSKINS
June-25th-2008, 03:11 PM
you are what 2 years removed from high school? HAHAH i already have my college degree, bought my own house, and I have two cars and a boat. Punk ass little kids have NO respect these days.. I wont hesitate to put any little punks on their backs if they think they are tough enough to talk ****. Litte punks can only bump their gums over hte internet because they are PUNKS. simple as that.
Hey man, calm the hell down. Its an internet message board that is for people to post their opinions.
Opinions are like *******s. Everyone has them. And all of them, except mine, stink!
:D
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 03:11 PM
I guess I'll add my :2cents: the only reason the giants let him go is they didn't want to take a chance and see if mix could play ST's so they waived him and brought in Hixon, who is known for his ST's play! Plus when your the 4th and 5th WR on the depth chart you better be able to do something else or teams will cut you, now how he plays this year will determine his future with the team but only time will tell!
Thank you J-Bomb!!!:cheers:
21LightsOut21
June-25th-2008, 03:13 PM
Hey man, calm the hell down. Its an internet message board that is for people to post their opinions.
Opinions are like *******s. Everyone has them. And all of them, except mine, stink!
:D
I gotcha. I'm really not that amped up, it's just the way you are reading my messages. I think it's pure comedy actually.:laugh:
J-bomb
June-25th-2008, 03:13 PM
It Seems Like Nobody is talking about Thomas.... that's cause they're talking about Mix!
IbleedBnG83
June-25th-2008, 03:13 PM
WHO FREAKIN CARES ABOUT MIX!?!? He cost us nothing. If he does well, then great. If not, then oh well. We spent two picks in the second round on receivers, they need to show up more than Mix.
ucfSKINS
June-25th-2008, 03:16 PM
I gotcha. I'm really not that amped up, it's just the way you are reading my messages. I think it's pure comedy actually.:laugh:
Its all gravy.
As for the post, I think if Mix pans out, awesome. If not, who the **** cares. Cost us nothing, and we have two young WR's to develop.
:cheers:
TK
June-25th-2008, 03:19 PM
:2cents:
could you tell me where I said he's our saving grace? and little man, you can't even buy alcohol yet, so yes, you are alot younger than me. 6-7 years is quite a difference, but I can see you are a little slow, so I will let that pass. You just keep sitting behind your little computer screen talking **** towards people on this message board. You can PM anytime you want to meet up homeboy. anytime... I dont talk **** over the internet because its pointless, but you are over 18 so I would have no problem in whoopin your little ass. Shut your punk ass up little boy.
Goodbye.
STBonecrusher21
June-25th-2008, 03:20 PM
you are what 2 years removed from high school? HAHAH i already have my college degree, bought my own house, and I have two cars and a boat. Punk ass little kids have NO respect these days.. I wont hesitate to put any little punks on their backs if they think they are tough enough to talk ****. Litte punks can only bump their gums over hte internet because they are PUNKS. simple as that.
:jerk:
Wow dude. Your cool. Congratulations! No one on here has threatened you, yet you say the "young punks" have been talking **** over the internet. Ok your 26 and you have a house and a degree, wife and kids or whatever. But when are you gonna grow up?
STBonecrusher21
June-25th-2008, 03:21 PM
Goodbye.
:applause: :applause:
Thanks goodness. If it weren't for you TK, I might have been banned after reading some more of his posts.
JetSkins
June-25th-2008, 03:21 PM
this thread just got interesting
Lombardi's_kid_brother
June-25th-2008, 03:23 PM
I for one often talk about football players whom I have never seen play.
Um...they both look great. Fabulous.
SkinsGuy
June-25th-2008, 03:23 PM
:jerk:
Wow dude. Your cool. Congratulations! No one on here has threatened you, yet you say the "young punks" have been talking **** over the internet. Ok your 26 and you have a house and a degree, wife and kids or whatever. But when are you gonna grow up?
Really. :laugh:
Calling someone just six years younger than him "little boy" and "kid".
How does someone get that way at 26?
I'm 40, and I'm not that crotchety. :laugh:
J-bomb
June-25th-2008, 03:24 PM
Goodbye.
Are you banning him?
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 03:26 PM
Anyways, back to the thread.
I personally have not seen Mix do jack ****, so my opinion is nothing but that...an opinion.
I don't wanna seem like a hater, I'd love to see Mix be the next Art Monk, but I don't see it. Normally I find it somewhat humorous when people act like he's our saving grace but as I posted, he does have POTENTIAL.
I just think that if we are to find a solution its going to come from Kelly, Thomas and Davis, with Moss and El stepping up. If Mix factors in then so be it, I want nothing but the best for all our players and our team.
--The Young Punk :laugh:
IbleedBnG83
June-25th-2008, 03:28 PM
Troll?? Kid, my family and I have been Redskin fans before you were even a thought. If you want respect, you need to show some. You were the ******* who started talking ****, now you act like some little punk like you are. worthless kids. Go do something with your life
Now you're saying Mix HAS potential?? haha oh my.. which is it? does he suck? or does he have potential? stick to one and stand by it
Goodbye:doh:
SnyderMustGo
June-25th-2008, 03:28 PM
I'm far more excited about Thomas.
I think he is more likely to be a serious, quality starting WR. I expect him to have a learning curve, kind of like it took him a while to get comfortable at Michigan State. But he is the most promising out of the bunch.
I think Kelly is going to bust hard because of his knees. There just seems something off about the guy. He seems aloof, and then he jacked around pre-draft and squandered his ability to be a first round pick. And either he is a head case, or there is really something about his knees that he is trying to cover up.
Davis I'm unsure on. If he pans out, I can see the value in drafting him there. But I'm not sure he was the right pick. But I think he can produce.
The guy with the upside is definitely Thomas. A great pick getting the best WR in the draft in the 2nd round. We got lucky. He'll take some time, but he is definitely the one I am most excited about.
IbleedBnG83
June-25th-2008, 03:29 PM
Anyways, back to the thread.
I personally have not seen Mix do jack ****, so my opinion is nothing but that...an opinion.
I don't wanna seem like a hater, I'd love to see Mix be the next Art Monk, but I don't see it. Normally I find it somewhat humorous when people act like he's our saving grace but as I posted, he does have POTENTIAL.
I just think that if we are to find a solution its going to come from Kelly, Thomas and Davis, with Moss and El stepping up. If Mix factors in then so be it, I want nothing but the best for all our players and our team.
--The Young Punk :laugh:
He looked good in preseason for the Giants. Giants fans liked him and hoped he would stay. Kind of like the Espy of the Giants.
STBonecrusher21
June-25th-2008, 03:32 PM
Anyways, back to the thread.
I personally have not seen Mix do jack ****, so my opinion is nothing but that...an opinion.
I don't wanna seem like a hater, I'd love to see Mix be the next Art Monk, but I don't see it. Normally I find it somewhat humorous when people act like he's our saving grace but as I posted, he does have POTENTIAL.
I just think that if we are to find a solution its going to come from Kelly, Thomas and Davis, with Moss and El stepping up. If Mix factors in then so be it, I want nothing but the best for all our players and our team.
--The Young Punk :laugh:
I get exactly what you were saying the whole time. Some people were too jacked up on roids or something to get it.
Every player in college has "potential" to do well in the pros. Crazy things happen all the time. However, "potential" level doesn't mean anything without proven ability. He didn't do much in college. And has only seen the field on special teams in his NFL career.
The "potential" is still there, but with Tana, ARE, D Thomas, Kelly, AND Thrash in front of him, he's gonna have to really impress in pre-season to see the field as WR.
Until then, regardless of his "potential", he's still just the average young guy on an NFL team who's on special teams.
--A Lesser Generation Representative
ucfSKINS
June-25th-2008, 03:33 PM
Anyways, back to the thread.
I personally have not seen Mix do jack ****, so my opinion is nothing but that...an opinion.
I don't wanna seem like a hater, I'd love to see Mix be the next Art Monk, but I don't see it. Normally I find it somewhat humorous when people act like he's our saving grace but as I posted, he does have POTENTIAL.
I just think that if we are to find a solution its going to come from Kelly, Thomas and Davis, with Moss and El stepping up. If Mix factors in then so be it, I want nothing but the best for all our players and our team.
--The Young Punk :laugh:
You mean Mr. Young Punk, right?
phatSkins27
June-25th-2008, 03:33 PM
hahahaha I just read all of those posts about your two cars a boat and a house. Congratulations. This is a blog where people post their opinions and usually use EVIDENCE to back it up. You're being ridiculous.
When did people start using Evidence for anything on Extremskins???
Wakeboarder020
June-25th-2008, 03:34 PM
I just don't see him getting many opportunities. He is on the fence to make the team and he will only make it if we keep 6 receivers. Even if he does make the team, he will see the field as a special teamer and occasionally if he emerges as a red zone threat.
I would make rather see Thomas and Kelly blossom this year than Mix perform solidly. Either way, however, I just want one of them three to play well this year because they are all three essentially rookies.
Hail
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 03:35 PM
I get exactly what you were saying the whole time. Some people were too jacked up on roids or something to get it.
Every player in college has "potential" to do well in the pros. Crazy things happen all the time. However, "potential" level doesn't mean anything without proven ability. He didn't do much in college. And has only seen the field on special teams in his NFL career.
The "potential" is still there, but with Tana, ARE, D Thomas, Kelly, AND Thrash in front of him, he's gonna have to really impress in pre-season to see the field as WR.
Until then, regardless of his "potential", he's still just the average young guy on an NFL team who's on special teams.
--A Lesser Generation Representative
There you go. See? Even this guy gets it ;)
:laugh:
He looked good in preseason for the Giants. Giants fans liked him and hoped he would stay. Kind of like the Espy of the Giants.
I see your point. The thing is, look at Espy, he's a mancrush target on ES but not much else. I don't have a problem with Mix, I hope he succeeds but I just don't think we'll see much of him this year.
If I'm wrong, bump the **** out of this thread, I will humbly accept my defeat. Crow is very tasty when the end result is someone on your team doing well.
Stew
June-25th-2008, 03:37 PM
I'm with Darrelsmyhero on this one. Anthony Mix, if he makes the team, will be our #6 receiver unless he beats out Thrash for the #5 spot. So, that means he will come in for red zone plays where we need a tall receiver and thats a maybe.
All Zorn said was something along the lines of, " I like his size...we will have to take a look there". That's pretty much it. I think we are much better off hoping for a solid contribution from Thomas and Kelly (since they are projected to be our #3 and #4 receivers, respectively) than for our #5 or #6 receiver in Mix to make a huge impact.
I guess i just dont see where it is out of the realm of possibility that he can out produce either of the rookie's. Just because they were drafted high doesnt mean they wont sit if Mix can show more production? Dont you put the best players on the field regardless of their draft status or paycheck?
Im not saying Mix will be a world beater, buti feel like a lot of people have already crowned Kelly and Thomas as world beaters and they are rookies out of the box. 2nd round picks at that may be good, but would you really compare them to Calvin Johnson, Braylin Edwards, Fitzy or Boldin? If they arent even that good i ask again why is it out of the realm of possibility that Mix could compete with Kelly or Thomas? Do you really think that Mix cannot do everything Thrash can do? Even if Kelly and Thomas crack the starting roster, do you think if Mix outplays Thrash that they would keep Thrash and do away with the young guy that has potential?
The point i would hope that is seen is that we dont know what is going to happen, and i think writing Mix off at this point is cutting your nose off dispite your face, and there is more then one scenario where he can make this team. Id like to know what Kelly and Thomas have that Mix lacks. No conjecture and speculation please, back up why you think what you think.
Mix is young, only in the league a year or two. he has limited (still more then the rookies) game time experience, excells on special teams, has a proven work ethic, and a history with Campbell in College. I fail to see why he could not compete and possibly challenge one of the young bucks for a roster spot, buti would like to be enlightened so i can see the other point of view. I hope im disrepecting anyone by stating how i feel, this thread has gotten a little tense in the past couple of pages.
STBonecrusher21
June-25th-2008, 03:37 PM
There you go. See? Even this guy gets it ;)
:laugh:
And just what the **** is that supposed to mean. "This guy"?? If you weren't older than me, I'd kick the **** outta you. OVER THE INTERNET.
:silly:
phatSkins27
June-25th-2008, 03:40 PM
And just what the **** is that supposed to mean. "This guy"?? If you weren't older than me, I'd kick the **** outta you. OVER THE INTERNET.
:silly:
Winning an internet fight is kinda like a gold at the special olympics...
in the end ...you are still retarded
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 03:41 PM
And just what the **** is that supposed to mean. "This guy"?? If you weren't older than me, I'd kick the **** outta you. OVER THE INTERNET.
:silly:
I bet you have a boat too right?
You mean Mr. Young Punk, right?
Oh but of course, pardon me I forgot my manners.
When did people start using Evidence for anything on Extremskins???
Only in the Tailgate :laugh:
I guess i just dont see where it is out of the realm of possibility that he can out produce either of the rookie's. Just because they were drafted high doesnt mean they wont sit if Mix can show more production? Dont you put the best players on the field regardless of their draft status or paycheck?
Im not saying Mix will be a world beater, buti feel like a lot of people have already crowned Kelly and Thomas as world beaters and they are rookies out of the box. 2nd round picks at that may be good, but would you really compare them to Calvin Johnson, Braylin Edwards, Fitzy or Boldin? If they arent even that good i ask again why is it out of the realm of possibility that Mix could compete with Kelly or Thomas? Do you really think that Mix cannot do everything Thrash can do? Even if Kelly and Thomas crack the starting roster, do you think if Mix outplays Thrash that they would keep Thrash and do away with the young guy that has potential?
The point i would hope that is seen is that we dont know what is going to happen, and i think writing Mix off at this point is cutting your nose off dispite your face, and there is more then one scenario where he can make this team. Id like to know what Kelly and Thomas have that Mix lacks. No conjecture and speculation please, back up why you think what you think.
Mix is young, only in the league a year or two. he has limited (still more then the rookies) game time experience, excells on special teams, has a proven work ethic, and a history with Campbell in College. I fail to see why he could not compete and possibly challenge one of the young bucks for a roster spot, buti would like to be enlightened so i can see the other point of view. I hope im disrepecting anyone by stating how i feel, this thread has gotten a little tense in the past couple of pages.
No no you have a great point.
If Mix shows up to Training Camp and outplays Thrash then goodbye James Thrash. Mix is about equal with Kelly and Thomas but he doesn't have the hoopla because he wasn't drafted. Obviously some UDFAs have succeeded and late draft picks have become superstars, but its rare.
I just think that the G-men would have figured out that they had this diamond in the rough if he's as good as some people think he is.
SnyderMustGo
June-25th-2008, 03:42 PM
Looking this thread, I see people are back talking about Mix.
Really?
On the negative side, we have:
1. Never done a damn thing at WR.
2. Will all their injuries, the Giants were signing guys off the street to play WR 2 years ago while Mix rode the PS (and other teams just watched him sitting there when other teams needed WRs too).
3. Last season we had injuries at WR and a bunch of midgets that JC couldn't hit, and yet Mix never found himself on the field. We sign ancient castoffs like Caldwell and instead of giving Mix a shot.
4. Undrafted despite having FREAKISH size. You would have figured he would have been one of the 30 WRs drafted (or whatever the number was) purely based on his size. But no.
5. Wasn't a lead WR on his college team.
6. Our new coaching staff was SO impressed about what Mix brings to the table that they went out and spent our first 3 draft picks on pass catchers. Clearly they see a lot in Mix....
On the plus side, we have:
1. He's tall.
....
Nothing else.
Yeah, the guy clearly is going to be a prize for us.
Wakeboarder020
June-25th-2008, 03:45 PM
I am obviously very adamant about putting the best player at the position out on the field, but I just don't see Mix being that guy. This is personal opinoon, but as SynderMustGo said above, he doesn't really have much going for him at this point. That's why I feel Thomas and Kelly will play above him because they were drafted (very high might I add), performed at a high level at their schools, and Mix just didn't even play offense last year despite our horrible injuries in the WR corps.
SnyderMustGo
June-25th-2008, 03:48 PM
Do you really think that Mix cannot do everything Thrash can do?
Absolutely. 100% certain of that fact.
If Mix had even half of the ability of Thrash to run routes or catch balls, then with his size he would a pro bowl WR. Or a #1 WR. Or at least drafted.
He's never been a good WR. Why would we expect him to suddenly become one?
Thrash is in the NFL because he can run routes and catch balls reliably. Mix cannot. I know he cannot. If he could, wouldn't have had the career he has had.
Pedro
June-25th-2008, 03:52 PM
WHO FREAKIN CARES ABOUT MIX!?!? He cost us nothing. If he does well, then great. If not, then oh well. We spent two picks in the second round on receivers, they need to show up more than Mix.
Exactly. 10 catches for 1st Downs would be fine if they come at the right time. He's a home advantage not get you to the playoffs prospect right now.
Whether he has a career or not is down to himself now. I like the chances of a kid who gave up a team who knew him, and wanted to sign him when we went for him, because he felt he would be given an opportunity to make plays. If he did hear that the reason he didn't have a roster spot with the Giants was his lack of ST play he sure did lay that one to bed when he got to us. Hopefully he keeps taking a step forward each day and will be a memorable contributor of our doubtless future good times as Redskins ;)
Skins Zombie
June-25th-2008, 03:58 PM
RAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!:tantrum :
Zombie was sleeping but all of your hostility and yammering on about "Bad Mix" has caused Zombie to awaken from his:snore:in the drainage pipes within the dank underground below the field at FedEx we undead call the Feed Hive..
"Bad Mix" is a good special teamer. Zombie will admit this much. However.... there is no evidence whatsoever no matter what that "Bad Mix" will be a receiver of any note in the NFL! :doh: Your disgusting man-crushes on some bum that has done dothing at RECEIVER in the NFL makes zombie want to :puke:
Didn't Zombie cover this in his official "A BAD MIX" thread?
Some silly humans need to learn to read! No more mentions today of BAD MIX or Zombie will have to angrily devour all offenders in a most profane and foul manner!!! :hungry:
THE ZOMBIE HAS SPOKEN! :helmet:
:allhail:
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 03:59 PM
RAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!:tantrum :
Zombie was sleeping but all of your hostility and yammering on about "Bad Mix" has caused Zombie to awaken from his:snore:in the drainage pipes within the dank underground below the field at FedEx we undead call the Feed Hive..
"Bad Mix" is a good special teamer. Zombie will admit this much. However.... there is no evidence whatsoever no matter what that "Bad Mix" will be a receiver of any note in the NFL! :doh: Your disgusting man-crushes on some bum that has done dothing at RECEIVER in the NFL makes zombie want to :puke:
Didn't Zombie cover this in his official "A BAD MIX" thread?
Some silly humans need to learn to read! No more mentions today of BAD MIX or Zombie will have to angrily devour all offenders in a most profane and foul manner!!! :hungry:
THE ZOMBIE HAS SPOKEN! :helmet:
:rotflmao:
I knew this was coming when I saw you lurking...
:laugh:
J-bomb
June-25th-2008, 04:00 PM
Absolutely. 100% certain of that fact.
If Mix had even half of the ability of Thrash to run routes or catch balls, then with his size he would a pro bowl WR. Or a #1 WR. Or at least drafted.
He's never been a good WR. Why would we expect him to suddenly become one?
Thrash is in the NFL because he can run routes and catch balls reliably. Mix cannot. I know he cannot. If he could, wouldn't have had the career he has had.
What Career??? He is basically a rookie! this is his first shot at playing time! So it is obvious you know jack about Mix and the situation yet you choose to throw in your !:pooh: :2cents: .
Skins Zombie
June-25th-2008, 04:01 PM
:rotflmao:
I knew this was coming when I saw you lurking...
:laugh:
Zombie says you are very astute and clearly have future seeing powers!!! :yikes:
Stew
June-25th-2008, 04:16 PM
What Career??? He is basically a rookie! this is his first shot at playing time! So it is obvious you know jack about Mix and the situation yet you choose to throw in your !:pooh: :2cents: .
Dude, dont listen to SMG, his post's are full of conjecture and personal opinion. Pretty much worthless to everyone but him. His post's are the comic relief.
Its a good arguement both ways, and I think we can all agree that it is a great situation to be in. We went from not having enough recievers when everyone was getting injured and Lloyd still sucked, and now we have an overflow of youth and potential to choose from. I like it better on this side of the fence. Much greener grass over here. Now look at Chicago.... arent you glad your arent a Bears fan? They have no offense, let alone recievers. They ust really expect Hester to do it ALL!
Jumbo
June-25th-2008, 06:29 PM
Are you banning him?Yes, he did ban him. Why do you ask? :)
BoRnAndRaiSedSkinsFan
June-25th-2008, 06:36 PM
This zombie guy is quite a character. They should have him on Redskins radio sometimes.
I don't know anything about Mix other than he is tall. I expect him to be used for red zone offense only if he makes the team. As far as Devin Thomas, haven't the Skins said he has potential to start opposite of Moss. I believe this was said during the beg. of the first set of OTAs. Kelly might have impressed so much that he'll get the job. From what i've heard, Kelly has one up on him in route running and getting open deep. I heard that Thomas was a great blocker along side of his other talents. It'll be nice to have a receiver who can throw some CBs around Randy Thomas doesn't have to when he pulls. I hope he can in the run game as well as the pass. I wanna see him lay Pacman Jones out if he's reinstated :redpunch: . I don't care who's better, as long as both can contribute in different ways to help us win. Hail!
21Knock_U_Out
June-25th-2008, 07:02 PM
Looking this thread, I see people are back talking about Mix.
Really?
On the negative side, we have:
1. Never done a damn thing at WR.
2. Will all their injuries, the Giants were signing guys off the street to play WR 2 years ago while Mix rode the PS (and other teams just watched him sitting there when other teams needed WRs too).
3. Last season we had injuries at WR and a bunch of midgets that JC couldn't hit, and yet Mix never found himself on the field. We sign ancient castoffs like Caldwell and instead of giving Mix a shot.
4. Undrafted despite having FREAKISH size. You would have figured he would have been one of the 30 WRs drafted (or whatever the number was) purely based on his size. But no.
5. Wasn't a lead WR on his college team.
6. Our new coaching staff was SO impressed about what Mix brings to the table that they went out and spent our first 3 draft picks on pass catchers. Clearly they see a lot in Mix....
On the plus side, we have:
1. He's tall.
....
Nothing else.
Yeah, the guy clearly is going to be a prize for us. :applause: This about sums it up for me!
Blackest Eyes
June-25th-2008, 07:12 PM
maybe because Mix is tall he will get some playing time in tall people situations :laugh:
TK
June-25th-2008, 07:36 PM
Are you banning him?
Even though Jumbo has already answered this, let me make one thing clear. Any moderation action taken upon another member is really no ones buisness other then the person it was taken against & the ES Staff.
J-bomb
June-25th-2008, 07:44 PM
Looking this thread, I see people are back talking about Mix.
Really?
On the negative side, we have:
1. Never done a damn thing at WR. Never given a chance until now
2. Will all their injuries, the Giants were signing guys off the street to play WR 2 years ago while Mix rode the PS (and other teams just watched him sitting there when other teams needed WRs too). How many UDFA you know come right in and start for their teams?
3. Last season we had injuries at WR and a bunch of midgets that JC couldn't hit, and yet Mix never found himself on the field. We sign ancient castoffs like Caldwell and instead of giving Mix a shot. Blame the coaching staff
4. Undrafted despite having FREAKISH size. You would have figured he would have been one of the 30 WRs drafted (or whatever the number was) purely based on his size. But no. He was a TE in college switched after sophomore yr.
5. Wasn't a lead WR on his college team. Played TE for his team
6. Our new coaching staff was SO impressed about what Mix brings to the table that they went out and spent our first 3 draft picks on pass catchers. Clearly they see a lot in Mix.... BPA!!
On the plus side, we have:
1. He's tall. and will knock old ass Trash off the team where he needs to be!
....
Nothing else.
Yeah, the guy clearly is going to be a prize for us. MY thoughts exactly!:applause:
J-bomb
June-25th-2008, 07:48 PM
Even though Jumbo has already answered this, let me make one thing clear. Any moderation action taken upon another member is really no ones buisness other then the person it was taken against & the ES Staff.
My bad, I thought it was funny when said GOODBYE! I didn't know it was that big a deal to ask, it won't happen again!
J-bomb
June-25th-2008, 07:49 PM
Yes, he did ban him. Why do you ask? :)
I thought it was hilarious!
skinsfan190
June-25th-2008, 07:53 PM
I believe Devin Thomas compares similarly to Chad Johnson. Both are around 6'2'' strong recievers who can run after the catch. If you look at their careers they had a similar path to the NFL. Both are JUCO players. Who fell to the second round because of the "One Year Wonder" title. Thomas was 34th overall and Johnson was 36th overall. If you look at Johnson's rookie numbers he wasn't that great.
Year- G- Rec- Yds- Td
2001- 12- 28- 329- 1
2002 16- 69- 1,166- 5
2003- 16- 90- 1,355- 10
Everyone can say what they want about CJ's personality, but no one can argue his work ethic and desire to be the best. I always heard stories of CJ watching film all night and sleeping at the Bengals complex. I think Thomas will have similar numbers, hopefully aroung 35, 500, and 5. I would be happy will that in his rookie season. Hopefully Thomas has a similar work ethic to Chad. I think he has alot of potiental, he just needs to study that playbook and get those routes down. I think we made a great move by drafting both Thomas and Kelly. Since they're like best friends now they can push each other to be the best. Hopefully we will have a tandem like Boldin and Fitzgearld!:D
Thinking Skins
June-25th-2008, 07:58 PM
Ok, so I'm going to repeat the title of this thread, "It Seems Like Nobody is talking about Thomas...."
That could never be more true than in the last 100 or so posts on this thread. Sure Mix is tall, but we also have Thomas, who is the person that this thread was started about.
I think that Thomas will have problems developing into an NFL WR as a rookie, but I don't think he'll be short on the big plays. I can see him getting a few routes down and coming in on particular packages. Lets not forget that right now he's the primary backup to Santana Moss. Now Santana Moss put up a 1500 yard season last time he was playing flanker, but the past two seasons, the guy has been getting hurt off and on. Plus he's just been inconsistent and unable to catch JC's passes. If this happens this year, you may see the fans (and maybe Zorn) in uproar for Thomas to see more playing time.
But even if Moss doesn't have a bad season, I still expect to see Thomas doing a few deep routes that are easier for him to get down and just involve him outrunning his man. I wouldn't be surprised for him to get a few big catches this year.
RocketCitySkins
June-25th-2008, 08:03 PM
Mix is TALL
:doh:
Why do people actually think a guy thats caught 3 passes for 39 yards in his entire illustrious career is going to suddenly become a huge asset for our offense?
If Anthony Mix becomes anything more than special teamer who occasionally plays WR, I will french kiss my dog's ass.
Anthony mostly ran slant and crossing routes at Auburn, but didn't I read that ARE will run those routes this year. That will only leave Anthony special teams and, I'm expecting, an occasional extra target shot in the redzone.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 08:07 PM
Anthony mostly ran slant and crossing routes at Auburn, but didn't I read that ARE will run those routes this year. That will only leave Anthony special teams and, I'm expecting, an occasional extra target shot in the redzone.
Ooh you're a late comer...this thread got interesting very quickly after I posted that baby.
Really? I didn't know that about Mix, and yeah ARE will probably be doing that this year.
I just think with Thomas/Kelly/Davis/Cooley hell even Yoder has more experience than Mix, at least he has a TD--Mix's best quality (his height), will no longer be much of a selling point.
But if he succeeds, I'm a happy man.
And I'm not kissing my dog.
MustangSteve
June-25th-2008, 08:12 PM
Actualy neither one has done anything to be talked about. The talk is cheap, show us what you can do on that football field, thats all that matters. Then let them be praised for their works :cheers:
RocketCitySkins
June-25th-2008, 08:17 PM
He's never been a good WR. Why would we expect him to suddenly become one?
Auburn fans would argue about never. Anthony was much loved at Auburn because he got us many first downs on 3 and long situations. But that doesn't mean squat in the NFL.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 08:18 PM
Auburn fans would argue about never. Anthony was much loved at Auburn because he got us many first downs on 3 and long situations. But that doesn't mean squat in the NFL.
A logical post?
But why?
Theres no room for that here on ES!
pvkeeper19
June-25th-2008, 08:21 PM
Auburn fans would argue about never. Anthony was much loved at Auburn because he got us many first downs on 3 and long situations. But that doesn't mean squat in the NFL.
Clutch catches are not indicative of a good wide receiver. Consider David Tyree.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 08:24 PM
Clutch catches are not indicative of a good wide receiver. Consider David Tyree.
Thats why he said it doesn't mean squat in the NFL.
And I would add: nor do acrobatic catches, see B. Lloyd.
RocketCitySkins
June-25th-2008, 08:31 PM
Sentiment on the Auburn board after the draft was that it wasn't good news for Anthony. I hope he proves them wrong but then he does have a lot to prove.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 08:33 PM
Sentiment on the Auburn board after the draft was that it wasn't good news for Anthony. I hope he proves them wrong but then he does have a lot to prove.
Yeah I mean that does make sense. Not a good sign for a backup receiver when the team goes out and picks three big targets when the best thing going for you was your size.
Morneblade
June-25th-2008, 09:31 PM
They said he was struggling learning the NFL routes.
Thats about all I remember hearing.
Same here, and it's why I dont think he's going to make much of an impact this year. He's REAL raw but has great physical skills. It's gonna take him a year or so to get the technical stuff down, so watch out for him next year.
Kelly on the other hand had 3 years in a pro offense at OU and had the best hands in the draft. In a couple years they will complement each other very nicely, if things work out.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 09:34 PM
Same here, and it's why I dont think he's going to make much of an impact this year. He's REAL raw but has great physical skills. It's gonna take him a year or so to get the technical stuff down, so watch out for him next year.
Kelly on the other hand had 3 years in a pro offense at OU and had the best hands in the draft. In a couple years they will complement each other very nicely, if things work out.
Was Michigan State's offense considered to be a "Pro-style" offense?
Morneblade
June-25th-2008, 09:59 PM
Was Michigan State's offense considered to be a "Pro-style" offense?
Yes, but Thomas only had 1 year in it. He played JuCo before his Jr. Season at Mich. ST.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 10:01 PM
Yes, but Thomas only had 1 year in it. He played JuCo before his Jr. Season at Mich. ST.
Right I know about JuCo I was just curious about Mich St.
We'll see, he's got the physical tools, hope he can learn the WCO.
Morneblade
June-25th-2008, 10:25 PM
Right I know about JuCo I was just curious about Mich St.
We'll see, he's got the physical tools, hope he can learn the WCO.
I agree. more importantly, he seems to be willing to work to be a good player, something guys like Westbrook and Gardner didnt really want to do.
DarrellsMyHero28
June-25th-2008, 10:28 PM
I agree. more importantly, he seems to be willing to work to be a good player, something guys like Westbrook and Gardner didnt really want to do.
Also true.
I was skeptical about getting two WRs but I like what I'm seeing so far.
Now if only Fred Davis could find an alarm clock...
trichey
June-26th-2008, 09:06 AM
I heard that Thomas is having a hard time with his routes that may be the reason why. The only good thing that I heard about him is his speed... He still have some work to do hopefully everything will pan out.. I'm hoping that one of our receivers will be this years Dewayne Bowe..
Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs
June-26th-2008, 09:24 AM
Brandon Lloyd was the worst WR in the HISTORY of the NFL to ever start an NFL game...
I'm gonna take a guess Devin Thomas & Malcolm Kelly will be big time upgrades LOL
PlayAction
June-26th-2008, 09:29 AM
I heard that Thomas is having a hard time with his routes that may be the reason why. The only good thing that I heard about him is his speed... He still have some work to do hopefully everything will pan out.. I'm hoping that one of our receivers will be this years Dewayne Bowe..
Most rookie WRs have issues with running precise routes. In college they get by on raw ability and the fact that the QB often just waits for them to get open. But even Moss and Randel El need to learn their new routes. The best route runner early in the offseason is Thrash.
Thomas has speed and is a different target than Moss. So I expect to see Thomas at flanker occasionally. As for Mix, he's got to hope that the Skins keep six Wrs. While many fans dislike Thrash he was very productive in the WCO, he has speed, and is a key contributor on special teams. What more do you want from your 5th WR?????
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