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bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 10:01 AM
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Cowboys' offense is too explosive not to pick it
By Scouts Inc.
ESPN.com
Scouts Inc. is breaking down each division in a roundtable discussion, with each scout offering his pick for the best offense and defense as well as the most important offseason move in the division. Here's the scouts' look at the NFC East.
Which team has the best offense in the NFC East?
Jeremy Green: The Dallas Cowboys have the best offense in the NFC East and even though I am concerned about them not adding a quality No. 2 receiver to go along with Terrell Owens, they did re-sign RB Marion Barber and add a playmaker in rookie RB Felix Jones. QB Tony Romo will be more in tune with offensive coordinator Jason Garrett's system and I think he will be more mature and a better leader on the field, despite some signs that point otherwise at times. Keep in mind, even with a somewhat immature Romo, Dallas finished 2007 second in points scored. The Cowboys might not finish second in points scored this coming season, but the overall offense will be more consistent and the best in the NFC East.
Keith Kidd: Outside of the Patriots, the Cowboys have the best offense in the NFL. Garrett has a tremendous supporting cast to put around Romo, who has a strong arm and quick release which allow the Cowboys to strike from anywhere on the field. Owens and TE Jason Witten are a dangerous combination, while Barber will be the feature back this season running behind one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. The addition of Jones should make this offense even more dangerous in 2008.
Doug Kretz: The Cowboys by a hair. Dallas owned the second-best offense in 2007 and should be as potent in 2008, if not even more effective. While the Cowboys lost RB Julius Jones to Seattle, they used their first-round pick on Felix Jones. Romo is also really coming into his own and now has a firm grasp on the offense.
Matt Williamson: The Eagles' offense will be improved with a healthy Donovan McNabb, but Dallas is loaded. The Cowboys are very strong at every spot on offense and can score points in bunches. Romo is developing very quickly and the ground game should be better than ever. My only concern here with Dallas is if Owens were to get hurt and miss significant time. Without Owens, this offense is nowhere near as explosive.
Which team has the best defense in the NFC East?
Green: Even though it was a little inconsistent at times when the team needed it to step up, the Cowboys' defense is one of the most versatile in the NFL. Dallas' defense will not only be the best in the NFC East, but among the best in the NFL. Head coach Wade Phillips and defensive coordinator Brian Stewart use an aggressive 3-4 scheme to create pressure up front. That pressure should allow a much-improved Dallas secondary with the additions of Adam Jones (provided he is fully reinstated) and rookie Michael Jenkins to be ball hawks along with veteran CB Terence Newman. However, the biggest change will occur when CB Anthony Henry moves to safety, putting Roy Williams on the bench and eliminating the Cowboys' weakest link versus the pass in the back end.
Gary Horton: Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo did a great job in 2007 by taking a group of players who were not the most talented in the league and putting them in situations where they could flourish. He has a terrific defensive line that applies great pressure out of the 4-3 scheme, but he will also utilize a lot of unorthodox blitzes with mixed coverages to confuse offenses. He is also not afraid to play his defensive backs in man-to-man coverage in an effort to utilize his blitz package.
Ken Moll: The NFC East is known for defense. Even with the loss of LDE Michael Strahan, the Giants' outstanding unit will be mostly intact. The Giants' front office did a nice job of replacing other key positions that were lost in free agency and with an innovative defensive coordinator like Spagnuolo in place, New York should be tough to move the ball against.
Tag Ribary: I expect to see the Cowboys' defense remain strong. They have quality personnel at most starting positions for their scheme combined with good depth in case they suffer an injury. If they solidify the responsibilities of Williams and utilize his strengths, the Cowboys will remain a physical team against the run and can still get after opposing quarterbacks.
Williamson: The Super Bowl champions have this honor in the NFC East, but Dallas and Philadelphia should have top-10 defenses as well. Even with Strahan retiring, I am going to give New York the slight edge over Dallas, but I have to stress the word slight. Mathias Kiwanuka is healthy and gives Spagnuolo another toy to play with. Plus, the Giants' young secondary should be improved from a season ago. This is a tougher decision than many probably realize, but I will go with the guys with the rings on their fingers.
What was the most important offseason move in the NFC East?
Green: The Cincinnati Bengals declining the Washington Redskins' offer of what could have potentially been two first-round picks for WR Chad Johnson. By making this decision, the Redskins didn't get a malcontent in Johnson, who is on the downside of his career, and were able to add three playmakers: two of the top three rookie receivers available in WR Malcolm Kelly and WR Devin Thomas and the best tight end in the draft in Fred Davis. These playmakers along with WR Santana Moss, WR Antwaan Randle El and RB Clinton Portis now give QB Jason Campbell the offensive weapons to compete in the tough NFC East.
Horton: Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has opened up his wallet and his Cowboys have made more moves than any other team in the NFL. They are not looking to the future and this team is built to win a championship sooner rather than later. Jones' roster is loaded and his players are well-paid and happy. Jones seems to relish in his role in personnel.
Kidd: Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Johnson relies heavily on his zone-blitz packages to create pressure in both running and passing situations. The addition of CB Asante Samuel allows Johnson the flexibility he so desperately needs on the back end when matching up versus multiple-spread attacks. Samuel has excellent ball skills and a very good knack for baiting quarterbacks into making game-changing mistakes. With the addition of Samuel and the return of starters Sheldon Brown and Lito Sheppard, the Eagles can place even more pressure on opposing offensive passing attacks.
Kretz: For better or worse the Redskins have a new head coach in Jim Zorn, who brings a new offense with him from Seattle. The speed at which the team improves offensively will depend on how fast the quarterbacks and the receivers learn the West Coast offense. Redskins owner Daniel Snyder is not known for his patience, so the players better learn quickly and show promise in Zorn's first year or his could be a short-tenured position.
Moll: Many might assume that the hiring of a new Redskins head coach would be the most important offseason move in the NFC East, but I believe that retaining Spagnuolo in New York was even more important. Losing Spagnuolo would have had a greater impact than the Redskins hiring Zorn. After a rocky start, the Giants' defense transformed into one of the most impressive and aggressive units in the league.
Ribary: It has to be the way Washington went about its head-coaching search. I like Zorn, but if the Redskins were so sold on him, they should have named him the head coach initially and not been flirting with others around the league while he was the coordinator. They took the unusual approach of trying to piece together a staff without a head coach. I have to think that made the job less attractive for others. We'll soon see if the unconventional approach worked.
IbleedBnG83
June-27th-2008, 10:04 AM
Mostly Redskin basing...some warranted, others not so. Typical ESPN stuff. But thanks for the post.
phatSkins27
June-27th-2008, 10:14 AM
Why doesnt espn just say we love the cowboys we think they are the best in the world, we like the eagles soem too and the redskins suck..
Everythign Dallas does is gold and whatever the skins do is wrong.. I have heard this from those guys for years.
Jeremy Green and Scouts INC are washed up former NFL pro scouts that no team will hire because appearently they are not good scouts
jnhay
June-27th-2008, 10:14 AM
"Ribary: It has to be the way Washington went about its head-coaching search. I like Zorn, but if the Redskins were so sold on him, they should have named him the head coach initially and not been flirting with others around the league while he was the coordinator. They took the unusual approach of trying to piece together a staff without a head coach. I have to think that made the job less attractive for others. We'll soon see if the unconventional approach worked."
Could this guy be serious? That's the most important offseason move? I just don't see how this issue could have been an impact much past the time Zorn was hired.
#98QBKiller
June-27th-2008, 10:15 AM
A bunch of Cowboys homerism minus the one paragraph about our offseason moves
:puke:
kuraitengai
June-27th-2008, 10:18 AM
Williamson: The Super Bowl champions have this honor in the NFC East, but Dallas and Philadelphia should have top-10 defenses as well. Even with Strahan retiring, I am going to give New York the slight edge over Dallas, but I have to stress the word slight. Mathias Kiwanuka is healthy and gives Spagnuolo another toy to play with. Plus, the Giants' young secondary should be improved from a season ago. This is a tougher decision than many probably realize, but I will go with the guys with the rings on their fingers.right, cuz we dont have a top10 defense and have been at the bottom the 3 of the last 4 years....or so
Zhouse
June-27th-2008, 10:24 AM
Well in a way I like flying under the radar. But **** em'. They are all over the Boyz' sacks. Damn, it's all Cowboys this cowboys that. "hey guess what? Cowboys can't get it done when it really counts....the playoffs. Call me when they're able to do that."
downbeat87
June-27th-2008, 10:24 AM
yea these guys are jokes when it comes to really covering their sport. this must be the nfls new way of taking care the tards who got knowcked the **** out.
and btw, they def read material the sponsors send or something... theres no way real people think dallas is that good.
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 10:25 AM
The Redskins had the best defense in the NFC east last year (3 out of the last 4 years), return all starters yet they aren't even mentioned in the defense discussion?
:doh:
Zhouse
June-27th-2008, 10:25 AM
I can already see the Giants' Defense being horrible. Mark my words, they will end up last in the Division. Best Defense my behind!
JustAfan47
June-27th-2008, 10:28 AM
Green: Even though it was a little inconsistent at times when the team needed it to step up, the Cowboys' defense is one of the most versatile in the NFL. Dallas' defense will not only be the best in the NFC East, but among the best in the NFL. Head coach Wade Phillips and defensive coordinator Brian Stewart use an aggressive 3-4 scheme to create pressure up front. That pressure should allow a much-improved Dallas secondary with the additions of Adam Jones (provided he is fully reinstated) and rookie Michael Jenkins to be ball hawks along with veteran CB Terence Newman. However, the biggest change will occur when CB Anthony Henry moves to safety, putting Roy Williams on the bench and eliminating the Cowboys' weakest link versus the pass in the back end.
Williamson: The Super Bowl champions have this honor in the NFC East, but Dallas and Philadelphia should have top-10 defenses as well. Even with Strahan retiring, I am going to give New York the slight edge over Dallas, but I have to stress the word slight. Mathias Kiwanuka is healthy and gives Spagnuolo another toy to play with. Plus, the Giants' young secondary should be improved from a season ago. This is a tougher decision than many probably realize, but I will go with the guys with the rings on their fingers.
lol....not once did they say the skins...we were 2nd in the div. in overall D last year...duh!...G-men7th overall in the league skins 8th, pukes 9th, Eagles 10th...i dont get it at all...we've had top 10 D's the past 3 of 4 years!!..i mean really can you give us some credit???..
downbeat87
June-27th-2008, 10:29 AM
i mean the saints are more likely to have a better offense this year then dallas i think. sure d ware is in good shape... he was last year too. do people really think the ball will keep bouncing the right way after tony romo A) get nailed in the face or B) drops it and runs for 30 yeards. their wr's are over rated without a healthy glen. marion sucks against any top 15 d. and their safeties are ken hamlin and roy williams!
wtf?!?!? i could see people saying the eagles, because they clicked at the end, they have a new fast Spec teamer and a better secondary. The Giants are ok!- pretty good, and the redskins are somewhere in the middle until shiz pans out. but cmon, dallas looked like poo the last 3-4 games. the lions game. cmon!
Aghar
June-27th-2008, 10:30 AM
Wow. Not that I was surprised by the whole Zorn as new head coach stuff( I expect this for a while until he PROVES he can handle the job), but the lack of mention for the Redskin Defense really has me :whoknows:
As for the hype surrounding the Cowpukes, remember that they were 13-3 last season. Mark it down now. WHEN the Skins go 13-3 they will be the talk of the division the next season. If anyone with all this NFC talk has a right to complain it would be Giants fans. They won the damn Super Bowl and still get no love. Deservingly or not, they are the champs and forgive me if I am wrong but if you win it ALL you should carry some weight over to the next season, at least in your own division, if not the conference. :rolleyes:
srtman04
June-27th-2008, 11:23 AM
Dallas/Giants love fest FTL
abu69
June-27th-2008, 11:33 AM
None of this is surprising. Scouts Inc. is made of stupid.
zskins
June-27th-2008, 12:17 PM
None of this is surprising. Scouts Inc. is made of stupid.
And ironically you have to pay to get stupid inside info. :doh:
TheLongshot
June-27th-2008, 12:18 PM
I'm still amazed that writers still cling to the myth that Snyder has a quick hook. The only time he hooked a HC quickly was Marty. Norv was already on borrowed time when Snyder bought the team and all signs pointed to Snyder bringing back the Ol Ball Coach for a third season when he resigned.
Jason
pjfootballer
June-27th-2008, 12:19 PM
They aren't giving our defense credit because we didn't go out and get a Pacman Jones, Asante Samuel or win the Super Bowl. Bottom line is, we didn't make the big splash this year so we're irrelevant.
Butz65
June-27th-2008, 12:21 PM
Is any of this a surprise? The Giants won the Superbowl based on dominant defense in the post season. The Cowboys should have been there (I already have 2 all expenses paid trips to Cabo ready to send to Tony Romo). The Eagles are in their 8th? (or somewhere around that) season under Andy Reid and have Donovan McNabb returning healthy. The Skins on the other hand are coming in with a new Head Coach, unproven QB, rookie WR's and an aging defense with a number of question marks. I'm a huge Skins fan but I can't imagine that we will get much love going into the season. Look for a number of "experts" to pick us last in the division. And on that happy note.......
Butz65
June-27th-2008, 12:25 PM
I'm still amazed that writers still cling to the myth that Snyder has a quick hook. The only time he hooked a HC quickly was Marty. Norv was already on borrowed time when Snyder bought the team and all signs pointed to Snyder bringing back the Ol Ball Coach for a third season when he resigned.
Jason
True. He did fire Norv when we were still in the hunt for a playoff spot. Had he not done that he may not have earned this reputation.
TonyRomoProBowl
June-27th-2008, 12:35 PM
The Redskins had the best defense in the NFC east last year (3 out of the last 4 years), return all starters yet they aren't even mentioned in the defense discussion?
:doh:
what do you base that on?
TheLongshot
June-27th-2008, 12:36 PM
True. He did fire Norv when we were still in the hunt for a playoff spot. Had he not done that he may not have earned this reputation.
He did admit later that he made a mistake doing that. Course, he probably more restraint than a lot of fans, who would have shipped Norv out of here long ago.
Jason
Butz65
June-27th-2008, 12:45 PM
He did admit later that he made a mistake doing that. Course, he probably more restraint than a lot of fans, who would have shipped Norv out of here long ago.
Jason
True. I actually like Snyder as our owner. He unfortunately made a horrible first impression with the media. His tirade with Norv at Texas Stadium was poorly handled and then the bungling of Norv (and then Robiskie's) departures didn't help. Most of the media thought Marty had the team headed in the right direction when Snyder fired him which didn't help.
FrFan
June-27th-2008, 12:46 PM
Cowboys are favorite, but we are going to beat them.
My only concern is about the coaching staff, as Ribary mentioned: the way Zorn was selected. Looks like he was the number 3 or 4 choice, and the fact that we put a staff together without a head coach.
Difficult to imagine a chemistry here, but let's hope everything will click.
RedskinsNation
June-27th-2008, 01:02 PM
ESPN treats the Cowboys like the Red Sox...they absolutely LOVE THEM.
Oh yea, Dallas didnt win a single playoff game last year...but go ahead and crown them kings yet again this year.....DALLAS COWBOYS 2008 S.B. Champs..................surely.
Ed Werder must be on the Cowboys payroll....as much as boasts about them.
Badgerrocks
June-27th-2008, 01:19 PM
I don't like the disrespect that generally comes to the Skins from the media, but really guys, are you not concerned about playing Dallas?
At this point in the off-season, they do look pretty good, but as has been said innumerable times, we play in the toughest division in the NFL.
I think Butz65 nailed it. We have the most question marks in the division and we don't know what the team will look like this year.
That said, I like that we have all of our players back and have some new offensive toys too. No one knows what's going to happen! Besides, we like being the undergods, right?
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 01:31 PM
I don't like the disrespect that generally comes to the Skins from the media, but really guys, are you not concerned about playing Dallas?
4 out of 6, including a rout at Fed-Ex
the question is, Dallas not concerned about playing us?
At this point in the off-season, they do look pretty good, but as has been said innumerable times, we play in the toughest division in the NFL.
and we are part of the reason why it's so tough
I think Butz65 nailed it. We have the most question marks in the division and we don't know what the team will look like this year.
We have no more questions than the Pokes did last year.... the similarities are eerie
Dallas has many issues, Philly who finished last has many issues, Giants.... ditto
That said, I like that we have all of our players back and have some new offensive toys too. No one knows what's going to happen! Besides, we like being the undergods, right?
and the underdogs :silly:
:jk:
the more doubt the better
red beans
June-27th-2008, 01:32 PM
Mostly Redskin basing...some warranted, others not so. Typical ESPN stuff. But thanks for the post.
Redskins' bashing...? I didn't get that at all. The Redskins weren't mentioned until Most Important Offseason Moves, and they got some love with one and suspicion with the other.
red beans
June-27th-2008, 01:34 PM
Why doesnt espn just say we love the cowboys we think they are the best in the world, we like the eagles soem too and the redskins suck..
Everythign Dallas does is gold and whatever the skins do is wrong.. I have heard this from those guys for years.
Jeremy Green and Scouts INC are washed up former NFL pro scouts that no team will hire because appearently they are not good scouts
The question was Who Has The Best Offense In The NFC EAST?
Are you saying that the Cowboys don't? What does tha thave to do with love for the Cowboys? Many Cowboys' haters that are not Redskins' fans would say tha tthe Cowboys have the best offense in the NFC East.
The question was Who Has The Best Defense In The NFC EAST?
You got variable opinions in that one.
red beans
June-27th-2008, 01:36 PM
right, cuz we dont have a top10 defense and have been at the bottom the 3 of the last 4 years....or so
Well being that you no longer have Gregg Williams---one of the best DCs in the NFL, that is just supposed to be ignored?
red beans
June-27th-2008, 01:40 PM
i mean the saints are more likely to have a better offense this year then dallas i think.
But they were talking about the NFC EAST... last time I checked the Saints were in the NFC SOUTH. Pay attention.
JustAfan47
June-27th-2008, 01:41 PM
what do you base that on?
(skins) 2004 1st in the div. in overall D, 2005 1st in the div. overall D, 2006 4th in the div. overall, 2007 2nd in the div. overall
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 01:43 PM
what do you base that on?
facts
red beans
June-27th-2008, 01:43 PM
ESPN treats the Cowboys like the Red Sox...they absolutely LOVE THEM.
Oh yea, Dallas didnt win a single playoff game last year...but go ahead and crown them kings yet again this year.....DALLAS COWBOYS 2008 S.B. Champs..................surely.
Ed Werder must be on the Cowboys payroll....as much as boasts about them.
How many playoff games did the Redskins win last year?
red beans
June-27th-2008, 01:45 PM
(skins) 2004 1st in the div. in overall D, 2005 1st in the div. overall D, 2006 4th in the div. overall, 2007 2nd in the div. overall
UNDER GREGG WILLIAMS.
JustAfan47
June-27th-2008, 01:47 PM
Well being that you no longer have Gregg Williams---one of the best DCs in the NFL, that is just supposed to be ignored?
lol....last year the pukes lost Tuna of the best coachs in the game future hall of famer but you know what the pukes O did better...So we dont have GW any more that means that our D is going to be last in the div. and league???:laugh:
Fan since a Fetus
June-27th-2008, 01:48 PM
Cowboys' offense is too explosive not to pick it
What a coincidence. My wife caught me picking my nose the other day and she asked me why would I do such a thing. I told her that it was just too explosive not to pick it.
Who knew that boogers are synonymous with Cowboys. :whoknows:
JustAfan47
June-27th-2008, 01:49 PM
didn't all the so called "experts" still have the pukes going to the SB last year even with a new HC that has a horrible playoff record?...
TonyRomoProBowl
June-27th-2008, 01:51 PM
facts
yours or real ones?
I am just simply asking, is this based on stats from last season. Overal yds againts? points?
Total yards against is a good place to start, and that is as follows:
Giants (7th) 305.2
Skins (8) 305.2
Cowboys (9) 307.6
Eagles (10) 311.4
Also goes to show that all four teams from last season were very close and anyone of the four could be tops this season:2cents:
I am not disagreing with you or trying to fight (debate) i was just asking how you came up with saying the Skins were the best.....
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 01:56 PM
didn't all the so called "experts" still have the pukes going to the SB last year even with a new HC that has a horrible playoff record?...
many sure did
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 02:00 PM
lol....last year the pukes lost Tuna of the best coachs in the game future hall of famer but you know what the pukes O did better...So we dont have GW any more that means that our D is going to be last in the div. and league???:laugh:
the Skins have all the Starters returning, the same coaching staff sans GW, Blanche a proven DC (in Chicago), plus Rocky and Rogers returning from injury
we should be in the defensive discussion
abu69
June-27th-2008, 02:11 PM
UNDER GREGG WILLIAMS.
It's not like we're switching to a 3-4. Same personnel, same coaches, same schemes (minus a few of the more complex ones), different play-caller.
theTruthTeller
June-27th-2008, 02:16 PM
yours or real ones?
I am just simply asking, is this based on stats from last season. Overal yds againts? points?
Total yards against is a good place to start, and that is as follows:
Giants (7th) 305.2
Skins (8) 305.2
Cowboys (9) 307.6
Eagles (10) 311.4
Also goes to show that all four teams from last season were very close and anyone of the four could be tops this season:2cents:
I am not disagreing with you or trying to fight (debate) i was just asking how you came up with saying the Skins were the best.....
If you look at yards/play, I think the Skins were tops. That somewhat accounts for defenses benefitting from the offensive's long drives (or suffering from the offense's short drives).
On the downside, I think the Skins did relatively poorly on turnovers and sacks.
SWFLSkins
June-27th-2008, 02:16 PM
The Redskins had the best defense in the NFC east last year (3 out of the last 4 years), return all starters yet they aren't even mentioned in the defense discussion?
:doh:
Bubba, get yer facts straight, The Redskins don't even play in no NFC East, jeesh, did ya even read that dang articles.
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 02:21 PM
Bubba, get yer facts straight, The Redskins don't even play in no NFC East, jeesh, did ya even read that dang articles.
:laugh:
my bad
SWFLSkins
June-27th-2008, 02:22 PM
How many playoff games did the Redskins win last year?
Considering the circumstances getting to the playoffs was a win for this team.
3 fifths of our OL is back, our best player won't be, but I love the fact that these so called experts are calling for the Cowboys to walk away with the Lombardi. Everytime they do that to a team they fail, but hey let's watch it play out and see. :munchout:
TheLongshot
June-27th-2008, 02:24 PM
UNDER GREGG WILLIAMS.
There is a lot of circumstantial evdience that Blache had influence in last year's defense. Considering that a lot of ideas that started last year are continuing under Blache supports that evidence.
Certainly, replacing a successful D-Coordinator with one of his staff is no guarantee of success (see 2003), but with Blache, I think that's about as good as you are going to get.
Jason
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 02:39 PM
Giants (7th) 305
Skins (8) 305
virtually tied for 1st place
But the Skins actually were better per play avg. 4.8 to 5.0 (1st)
1st in points allowed
1st against the run
1st in avg yard per pass
the Skins finished first or second in almost every defensive stat in the NFC East in 07
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 02:41 PM
How many playoff games did the Redskins win last year?
as many as the Pokes
without the advantages the pokes had
phatSkins27
June-27th-2008, 02:52 PM
The question was Who Has The Best Offense In The NFC EAST?
Are you saying that the Cowboys don't? What does tha thave to do with love for the Cowboys? Many Cowboys' haters that are not Redskins' fans would say tha tthe Cowboys have the best offense in the NFC East.
The question was Who Has The Best Defense In The NFC EAST?
You got variable opinions in that one.
No i do not think Dallas has the best offense in the world or in the division
and i know the Skins have the best defense in the NFC east.
but my comment was more on the love fest for the cowboys and blanant disrespect for the redskins and the lack credibility the Scouts Inc brings to the table
BoRnAndRaiSedSkinsFan
June-27th-2008, 02:53 PM
Haha just some more bull**** to laugh at.... Can't wait to prove them wrong.
phatSkins27
June-27th-2008, 02:56 PM
virtually tied for 1st place
But the Skins actually where better per play avg. 4.8 to 5.0( 1st)
1st in points allowed
1st against the run
1st in avg yard per pass
the Skins finished first or second in almost every stat in the NFC East in 07
I was wondering how having identical or better stats we are behind the giants on defense?
lupin_iv
June-27th-2008, 03:16 PM
ESPN treats the Cowboys like the Red Sox...they absolutely LOVE THEM.
Oh yea, Dallas didnt win a single playoff game last year...but go ahead and crown them kings yet again this year.....DALLAS COWBOYS 2008 S.B. Champs..................surely.
Ed Werder must be on the Cowboys payroll....as much as boasts about them.
How many playoff games did the Redskins win last year?
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/lupin_v/cowsmack.jpg
Flycoach
June-27th-2008, 03:32 PM
Mostly Redskin basing...some warranted, others not so. Typical ESPN stuff. But thanks for the post.
I couldn't of said it better myself.
AllAboutSkins08
June-27th-2008, 03:37 PM
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/lupin_v/cowsmack.jpg
:laugh:
theTruthTeller
June-27th-2008, 03:50 PM
I was wondering how having identical or better stats we are behind the giants on defense?
To be fair, half the season was played with Sean Taylor. So while "the entire starting defense is coming back", the best player on the team, if not the league, is not.
Defensively, the NFCE teams are ridiculously close, and all good. Its hard to call anyone the best defense.
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 04:28 PM
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s10/lupin_v/cowsmack.jpg
bada bing
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 04:35 PM
To be fair, half the season was played with Sean Taylor. So while "the entire starting defense is coming back", the best player on the team, if not the league, is not.
Defensively, the NFCE teams are ridiculously close, and all good. Its hard to call anyone the best defense.
considering that the loss of ST was due to his untimely tragic death, Doughty became the starter.... and the stat included the same number of games without ST as with
JBond
June-27th-2008, 04:43 PM
Is any of this a surprise? The Giants won the Superbowl based on dominant defense in the post season. The Cowboys should have been there (I already have 2 all expenses paid trips to Cabo ready to send to Tony Romo). The Eagles are in their 8th? (or somewhere around that) season under Andy Reid and have Donovan McNabb returning healthy. The Skins on the other hand are coming in with a new Head Coach, unproven QB, rookie WR's and an aging defense with a number of question marks. I'm a huge Skins fan but I can't imagine that we will get much love going into the season. Look for a number of "experts" to pick us last in the division. And on that happy note.......
Sounds about right. Just being realistic.
theTruthTeller
June-27th-2008, 04:59 PM
considering that the loss of ST was due to his untimely tragic death, Doughty became the starter.... and the stat included the same number of games without ST as with
I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying that losing Taylor won't hurt the defense? I don't think I'm buying that.
cphil006
June-27th-2008, 05:08 PM
They write us off... good... let's surprise them...
bubba9497
June-27th-2008, 05:15 PM
I'm not sure what your point is. Are you saying that losing Taylor won't hurt the defense? I don't think I'm buying that.
no I am saying even with out ST, the Skins defense was very good, able to mantain those stats and that Doughty is considered a returning starter... starting 8 games
would we be better with ST... yes.. but that's not possible... but will we be good without ST ...yes
dblE
June-27th-2008, 05:31 PM
the cowgirlz have a tougher schedule this year and probably won't make it to the playoffs this year. approximately 70% of the games are playoff teams/contenders and will give them a run for their money. we are closer to bottom feeders as we would all like, but i think the 'girlz are not far behind, especially since our early off season was not the greatest. however, please tell me i'm wrong about the redskins i really hope they do well.
also bomo is not a true football guy and will never win a playoff game. he needs to leave the nfl and tighten up his golf game. the guy that will have a good year will be adam jones. he's a gamer, IF he can get on the field.
Waldo da Magnificent
June-27th-2008, 07:13 PM
the cowgirlz have a tougher schedule this year and probably won't make it to the playoffs this year. approximately 70% of the games are playoff teams/contenders and will give them a run for their money. we are closer to bottom feeders as we would all like, but i think the 'girlz are not far behind, especially since our early off season was not the greatest. however, please tell me i'm wrong about the redskins i really hope they do well.
also bomo is not a true football guy and will never win a playoff game. he needs to leave the nfl and tighten up his golf game. the guy that will have a good year will be adam jones. he's a gamer, IF he can get on the field.
Schedule is tougher, but we have basically the same as Dallas. Just two teams are different (GB/TB for Dallas, NO/Det for Washington).
theTruthTeller
June-27th-2008, 07:22 PM
Schedule is tougher, but we have basically the same as Dallas. Just two teams are different (GB/TB for Dallas, NO/Det for Washington).
That's kind of a break for Dallas - they get GB after Favre retires and the Skins get NO with McAllister coming back.
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