Great quote from Phillip Daniels

[SteveFromYellowstone]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=BF501D6D4ED44A2ED85715E8CD4CA45E? id=09000d5d80957902&template=with-video&confirm=true


"A lot of people don't know if we made the right decision, but I think we did," defensive end Phillip Daniels (http://www.nfl.com/players/phillipdaniels/profile?id=DAN576866) said. "Everything Jim tells us is positive. I like the way he thinks. I like the way he says that if we get it in the red zone, we're going to score every time. We don't want to be conservative and kick field goals. He's totally different in that aspect."


I hope this is a theme of the Zorn era of the Redskins. Lets hope this actually gets done.

[Fifty Gut]

*waves goodbye to our jumbo package 20 yards from the end zone*

[RocketCitySkins]

Well, that quote just made the next 2 weeks crawl by. :silly:

I'm ready. Bring it on. :applause:

[STBonecrusher21]

Praisah thah Lordah!!!!!!

[909997]

Gibbs redzone plays

1.1WR SET jumbo Run up middle
2.Same play
3.1WR 2TE "Throw it to cooley or out of bounds"
4.FG

[rm8899]

Nice quote coming from a DE.

[BigMike619]

Nice quote coming from a DE.

I was thinking that too but then again he probably has been watching the O as well so you cant say theres no way he doesnt know.

either way its refreshing to hear the team is behind him.

[Truant]

*waves goodbye to our jumbo package 20 yards from the end zone*

:applause: :cheers:

[thesubmittedone]

lol @ telling Cooley not to wear short shorts to practice anymore... I wonder how that conversation went.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Gibbs redzone plays

1.1WR SET jumbo Run up middle
2.Same play
3.1WR 2TE "Throw it to cooley or out of bounds"
4.FG
I would love to get some players behind closed doors and ask them what they really thought of Gibbs' offense. :(

[Hubbs]

Aggression is almost always better than conservatism over the long run. I hope Philip's not just saying what sounds good.

[GlennBrenner]

Why is it that whenever we get a new coach, everyone starts magnifying the last coach's faults and acting like the new coach is so much more in-touch and wiser, etc? Wouldn't it be better to wait and see what we actually get with Coach Zorn and then compare him to his predecessors? Also, to be fair, Coach Gibbs was pretty accommodating of his veteran players, especially Daniels. Is it too much to ask of them to not take backhanded shots at him after he's gone? As much as I respect Daniels, it would have been better if he kept this sentiment to himself at this point. From a personal standpoint, I don't really see it as a "great" quote from him.

[Vicious]

I would love to get some players behind closed doors and ask them what they really thought of Gibbs' offense. :(


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[moviedude25]

Words mean nothing, its all in the execution. If we get in the Red Zone and JC throws stupid INT's like hes done in the past then we will regret the approach of being more aggressive. I think that Gibbs approach had more to do with his fear of coming away with no points and his mistrust of JC more then anything. If JC can show he's a red zone QB then the more aggressive approach works. If he can avoid the mistakes its a nasty situation, but he's yet to show he can do that. Don't hate on Gibbs, the man might be onto something there

[HailGreen28]

Why is it that whenever we get a new coach, everyone starts magnifying the last coach's faults and acting like the new coach is so much more in-touch and wiser, etc? Wouldn't it be better to wait and see what we actually get with Coach Zorn and then compare him to his predecessors? Also, to be fair, Coach Gibbs was pretty accommodating of his veteran players, especially Daniels. Is it too much to ask of them to not take backhanded shots at him after he's gone? As much as I respect Daniels, it would have been better if he kept this sentiment to himself at this point. From a personal standpoint, I don't really see it as a "great" quote from him.

Agreed. This is like the bad old days of the Snyder regime when everybody who left the skins (Schottenheimer, Brian Mitchell, LaVar Arrington, Stephen Davis, Antonio Pierce, more recently Gregg Williams) got bad-mouthed.

This kinda stuff doesn't seem to have bothered the Giants recently, but I like the Redskins being better than that. Used to, I didn't hear about internal crap like for example: Doug Williams Vs. Jay Schroeder till long after it was over.

[wilsonian]

I can't wait to see Malcolm Kelly run a fade route and catch a jump ball in the end zone for six. With so many big targets to throw to now, I don't think we will be relying on the inside draw for goal line situations anymore.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Words mean nothing, its all in the execution. If we get in the Red Zone and JC throws stupid INT's like hes done in the past then we will regret the approach of being more aggressive. I think that Gibbs approach had more to do with his fear of coming away with no points and his mistrust of JC more then anything. If JC can show he's a red zone QB then the more aggressive approach works. If he can avoid the mistakes its a nasty situation, but he's yet to show he can do that. Don't hate on Gibbs, the man might be onto something there
If everything you say about Jason is true then tell me why Gibbs ran the same conservative offense with Brunell?

I'll answer the question for you:It was Gibbs...not his QB. Gibbs 2.0 was more concerned with "losing" the game than going out and "winning" it.

"Oh, Jason might throw an interception" etc. Well, you know what?
He might throw a touchdown as well. But you have to actually let the man throw.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Nice quote coming from a DE.

I was thinking something very similar. Why the hell are we listening to quotes about the OFFENSE from a Defensive End? Shouldn't the reporter be asking him about the DEFENSE, not the Offense?

[Califan007]

I was thinking something very similar. Why the hell are we listening to quotes about the OFFENSE from a Defensive End? Shouldn't the reporter be asking him about the DEFENSE, not the Offense?
Isn't it possible that he asked Daniels about BOTH?...As well as asked him about Zorn? Asked about the differences he's noticed so far? Asked about what may have stood out at him so far this offseason and during OTAs?

Is any of that even a slight possibility in your head?

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Isn't it possible that he asked Daniels about BOTH?...As well as asked him about Zorn? Asked about the differences he's noticed so far? Asked about what may have stood out at him so far this offseason and during OTAs?

Is any of that even a slight possibility in your head?

Yes it's a definite possibility. Especially with the low quality of reporters out there these days. Asking a defensive player in the NFL about the team's offense would be like asking me about astro-physics. Not only don't I know anything about it; I'm probably too stupid to understand it even if I did.

BTW - The same goes for asking offensive players about the defense in my mind.

[Califan007]

Yes it's a definite possibility. Especially with the low quality of reporters out there these days. Asking a defensive player in the NFL about the team's offense would be like asking me about the Redskins and football. Not only don't I know anything about it; I'm probably too stupid to understand it even if I did.

BTW - The same goes for asking offensive players about the defense in my mind.
Fixed it lol :thumbsup:...

But seriously, I can't believe we're trying to find fault in having a 13 year NFL veteran giving his initial impressions of his new coach and his football philosophy. They're not quoting the freakin' waterboy. I'd trust Daniels' opinion about the offense a million times more than ANYONE on this site, including me lol....If Daniels doesn't know enough to voice a valid opinion about the offense, then everyone on Extremeskins should definitely keep their mouths shut forever.

[Sticksboi05]

So hopefully we will never have to experience a "LaDell and Clinton are interchangeable" moment.

[Laxpunk2006]

Yes it's a definite possibility. Especially with the low quality of reporters out there these days. Asking a defensive player in the NFL about the team's offense would be like asking me about astro-physics. Not only don't I know anything about it; I'm probably too stupid to understand it even if I did.

BTW - The same goes for asking offensive players about the defense in my mind.

I think it's safe to ask a professional football player his opinion on the new offensive philosophy ofhis team. It's not like they're asking him to critique modern art.

[skinsince72]

I hope Zorn is merciless when he gets a lead. Just like Gibbs I. You know, when he had Clark, Monk, Sanders, Rypien, Riggo, Charlie Brown. I hated the fact he got conservative with a rookie QB and 5'10" WR's. All he wanted to do is run the ball!

[rcl6h]

Let's see, we've had zero preseason games, zero training camps, zero regular season games and suddenly Zorn is an offensive genius! Talk is cheap.(Look at Spurrier during
the '02 preseason). It's great to be enthusiastic, but there's a LONG way to go!

[Califan007]

Let's see, we've had zero preseason games, zero training camps, zero regular season games and suddenly Zorn is an offensive genius! Talk is cheap.(Look at Spurrier during
the '02 preseason). It's great to be enthusiastic, but there's a LONG way to go!
Gee, we would have never known that had you not posted it. Thanks! :thumbsup:

[steamroller#99]

I was thinking something very similar. Why the hell are we listening to quotes about the OFFENSE from a Defensive End? Shouldn't the reporter be asking him about the DEFENSE, not the Offense?

Daniels was in the team meeting like all the offensive players listening to the same thing. It was a whole team meeting. Philip wasn't breaking down what the play calling would be like in the red zone. He was just saying he likes the fact that the offense is going to aggresively go after 6 points. I think a defensive player can appreciate playing with a lead.

[skinthemboys]

I will have to wait and see. Being as this will be Zorns 1st time ever as a head coach of a professional football team, his approach in the red zone could drastically change in a real game situation. The enthusiasm is great, but sometimes the 3 points are better than the zero.

[RandyHolt]

*waves goodbye to our jumbo package 20 yards from the end zone*

I think I will jump out the window if I see that pathetic heavy jumbo i mean red zone package again this year. Yoder Alexander Thrash Iron Mike and Betts

:doh:

[fuadsaif123]

*waves goodbye to our jumbo package 20 yards from the end zone*

amen :doh:

[MidwayMonster31]

I will have to wait and see. Being as this will be Zorns 1st time ever as a head coach of a professional football team, his approach in the red zone could drastically change in a real game situation. The enthusiasm is great, but sometimes the 3 points are better than the zero.I think a lot of that rests on Campbell's decision making. If he knows when to throw the ball away, instead of making a risky throw into double coverage for a pick, the offense will work well, if not...
I would hope that his offense is more balanced and gives the defenses more things to worry about.

[Warhead36]

I don't know. The Offense was very aggressive when Todd Collins was named the starter. We scored 22+ points in all four of those games.

It's all going to come down to Jason Campbell...

[Vicious]

That's because the play calling was different. It was clear as day.

[downbeat87]

the plays were obviously different indeed.

i dont see why a vet and leader like phillip daniels cant be taken seriously because he plays defense. there is no logic to some one who studies defending offenses to not know how an offense works. they do have to defend them.

if hes not being told what to say or act or whatever, then hes a great person to hear from about the redskins. hes a team leader.

[Longbomb]

I hope they whip everyone's ass this year. I'm so sick of hearing these so called experts talking S--t about how they're going to struggle with a new coach. THE WHOLE TEAM IS RETURNING basically. Them jerks that do the "Moving the chains" on Sirius friday were saying the Redskins will be lucky if they're 2-2 after the first four games of the season. Why? because they have to play the Giants ( I don't think they're that great) Defending champs...whatever, they were the Rudy of the NFL, I was even rooting for them. They were saying how Dallas should or thought they should have been in the superbowl and how the Eagles are goingto be soooo much better.

Nobody EVER gives the Skins any respect. Riggo earlier last month said he could see the Skins going 16-0 under Zorn. There seems to be a great comaradery(sp) with his team that hasn't been seen in years. That's coming from Riggo and he usually is one to bash the Skins. I hope he's right because I would love to see them (so called experts) looking stupid around eek 12. I might even waste my time calling and saying "Look at you...jumping on the bandwagon, huh" Loser:applause:

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

gibbs in the redzone was one of the most painful things to watch. somehow the offense had no trouble moving from 20 to 20, but once it got down to the wire, our offense went into hibernation. hopefully thats completely different this year.

[Titaw]

Watch the video on the side. CP is funny as hell, he sounds like he blazed up right before that spot.

Seriously though, If we jump out to a fast start something like: @NY - W (crucial), vs Saints W, vs Cards W, @ Dallas L (I prefer a W), @ Philthy W our team could be contending for that #1 spot. Realistically I see: @NY - L (close), vs Saints W, vs Cards W, @ Dallas L, @ Philly L. This would still set us up pretty decently but 3 losses in the division will be tough to overcome. If we can win 1, 2 or all 3 we would be in great shape.

Barring major injuries this team does have the potential to give FedEx its first playoff game in a while aybe even a BYE. This is because the scedule is EXTREMELY favorable to our boys. The first half will be tough, but the second half is gonna be fun.

[IHOPSkins]

That's because the play calling was different. It was clear as day.Maybe Gibbs was overly concerned with the pick

OR

Maybe JC gave a Hall of Fame Coach (who got to 4 SBs with 3.5 Qbs) something to be concerned about?

Tampa Bay comes to mind.....(2 chances, 2 picks)

Ramsey was YANKED for such as these

[IHOPSkins]

Different Coaches....Different Philosophy

Whats important is will the Team BUY IT
And
Can it be successful

It appears the Players are buying it....thats good

BUT

GIBBS sold his Philosophy and WON
Zorn appears to be HALFWAY there

HTTR

[Taylor 36]

Why is it that whenever we get a new coach, everyone starts magnifying the last coach's faults and acting like the new coach is so much more in-touch and wiser, etc? Wouldn't it be better to wait and see what we actually get with Coach Zorn and then compare him to his predecessors? Also, to be fair, Coach Gibbs was pretty accommodating of his veteran players, especially Daniels. Is it too much to ask of them to not take backhanded shots at him after he's gone? As much as I respect Daniels, it would have been better if he kept this sentiment to himself at this point. From a personal standpoint, I don't really see it as a "great" quote from him.:applause: I agree 110%

[Mass_SkinsFan]

I think it's safe to ask a professional football player his opinion on the new offensive philosophy ofhis team. It's not like they're asking him to critique modern art.

Nothing personal but I'd rather have his opinion on Modern Art.


Daniels was in the team meeting like all the offensive players listening to the same thing. It was a whole team meeting. Philip wasn't breaking down what the play calling would be like in the red zone. He was just saying he likes the fact that the offense is going to aggresively go after 6 points. I think a defensive player can appreciate playing with a lead.

Ah, so this was all based on a MEETING with the coach. Not on actually seeing the offense. Makes the comment even LESS useful in my mind. Talk is CHEAP. Let's see them actually GET IT DONE.

[redman]

Why is it that whenever we get a new coach, everyone starts magnifying the last coach's faults and acting like the new coach is so much more in-touch and wiser, etc? Wouldn't it be better to wait and see what we actually get with Coach Zorn and then compare him to his predecessors? Also, to be fair, Coach Gibbs was pretty accommodating of his veteran players, especially Daniels. Is it too much to ask of them to not take backhanded shots at him after he's gone? As much as I respect Daniels, it would have been better if he kept this sentiment to himself at this point. From a personal standpoint, I don't really see it as a "great" quote from him.

There's some truth to this, but I don't read Daniels as being a vindictive guy, so I interpret this quote as being made out of enthusiasm for a new approach rather than as a shot at Gibbs, who by all accounts was universally respected in the locker room.

It's also valid, given that to the extent Gibbs had "lost his fastball" when comparing this last go-round to his first tenure, it had come from his aversion to taking risks on offense. Gibbs I was only "Martyball" during the Riggo years, but that was more than justified by the freakish and revolutionary offensive line, and he still had an all-time great offense in 1983.

Gibbs realized IMHO early on in 2004 that the game had developed a long way beyond where it was when he'd left it from a scheme standpoint, and I believe he developed an oversensitivity to that that made him cautious. He provided us good service as fans by restocking the roster and rebuilding the locker room and redirecting the organization towards winning, but he'd reached his limits as an on-field leader and I think he knew that deep down, and that contributed to his decision to retire.