2008 Draft stance Poll

[Bonez3]

Get on board now.

It's easy to say that we shoulda drafted this or I said so-and-so would be a beast.

Two choices; you like the WR/WR/TE move or you wanted a DE and name the guy that was available. (Either @ 21 or the 3 second round spots)

No middle ground. If you wanted a DE/OL/other with any of those 2 or 3 picks, state who in a post.

I don't wanna hear in week 13 that we shoulda got this guy.

No opinions, just vote and if you disagree, write the player you like. Maybe this will be the official retro thread/poll we can refer to at the end of the season and further.

[Teller]

Good thread idea, man.


I LOVE THIS DRAFT.

Devin Thomas was the guy I wanted from the start, and when we traded down, I was pissed. I figured no way in hell he drops to us in the 2nd.

I hope Malcolm Kelly will become a more productive version of Darnerian McCants; a guy that just goes up in the end zone and gets the ball.

Fred Davis gives us a metric ton of options, and is a GREAT insurance policy for Cooley. Chris is such a vital part of our offense that we almost have to have a bigtime guy who can step in if (God forbid) he would get hurt.

I like the choices of Durant Brooks and Colt Brennan too. Brooks, I expect, will win the job. And we all know how critical field position is. Brennan is a good project. If he develops into an NFL-calibre talent, we've got a solid backup for Jason for a long time.

From everything I hear, J.T. Tryon is a helluva ballplayer too. I admit I don't know much about him, but I'm looking forward to watching him compete.

This front office did a GREAT job this spring/summer, and I'm onboard 100%.

(Damn it feels good to be able to say that finally.) :)

[Hitman#21]

I wouldnt change anything about this past years draft..

[kvarlo12000]

drafting bpa is the best way to draft.

[McD5]

Calais Campbell instead of Davis for starters.

[Hitman#21]

Calais Campbell instead of Davis for starters.

I could see that, but if we run alot of 2 te sets the davis pick is gonna look brilliant.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

No, I don't agree with the first three selections. I was fine with the trade down until Antoine Cason and Lawrence Jackson went off the board at numbers 27 & 28 respectively. I really believe that we needed to go.... DE, CB, WR. At that point I really wanted them to select Jordy Nelson as the WR with the first selection , and then basically couldn't have cared much less what they did with the other two picks because there wasn't going to be anyone that I really wanted available at the positions we still had need for. Unfortunately the team decided to use all three picks on the same position, and essentially doom this team to another year of ineptitude.

[McD5]

Quentin Groves over Davis would have been fine too.

[Vicious]

Yes, I agree with the draft. What occurred with Daniels is why we went out and got James. Lets hope nothing serious happened to Daniels however.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Yes, I agree with the draft. What occurred with Daniels is why we went out and got James. Lets hope nothing serious happened to Daniels however.

So we got an underachieving, injury-prone malcontent from Minnesota to back up an injury-prone, underachieving, team player? REAL BRIGHT MOVE. Especially since we now don't know if EITHER of them will be able to even participate in training camp.

[PlayAction]

Get on board now.

It's easy to say that we shoulda drafted this or I said so-and-so would be a beast.

Two choices; you like the WR/WR/TE move or you wanted a DE and name the guy that was available. (Either @ 21 or the 3 second round spots)


Trading down from 21 was a great tactic IMO. I have no problem with Devin Thomas. I have no problem with Kelly. If I had to pick exactly where the Skins picked Fred Davis then I think they did OK. BUT, the draft is not static. You don't have to stick with your picks if Philip Merling was already gone and you thought Philly might take Trevor Laws ahead of the Skins. Skins could have moved up ahead of Philly to take DT Laws. Skins took their chances and didn't get the DL help. On the other hand they were pleasantly surprised at the WR/TEs that were available when they did pick. bottom line is that the Skins need to make the most of what they got.

[box8276]

By trading down the Skins got 3 TALL receivers with a 1st round grade. Impressive, and it was the best way to inject life into a frustrating O. The Skins kept their picks and addressed as many needs as they felt they could.

[SnyderMustGo]

Devin Thomas - Excellent pick. Get the best WR in the draft in the 2nd round. It would have been a great pick if we took him in the first. Excellent pick in the 2nd. A++++

Fred Davis - Pretty good pick. He looks like a very nice and solidifies TE. B+

Malcolm Kelly - God awful stupid moronic pick. Teams had taken Kelly off the board because of his knee problems and drive. Red flags all over the place with this kid the way he handled the combine/workouts. There were some reports that his knees were so bad he wouldn't last more than a couple of seasons. He did not get separation and didn't do squat for YAC. It would have been a average to bad pick IF we had not drafted Thomas and Davis just a few picks earlier. However, after taking Thomas and Davis, to spend a pick that pick on Kelly was STUPID STUPID STUPID. Jason Jones would have been a better pick there. FAIL.

[box8276]

So we got an underachieving, injury-prone malcontent from Minnesota to back up an injury-prone, underachieving, team player? REAL BRIGHT MOVE. Especially since we now don't know if EITHER of them will be able to even participate in training camp.



Daniels is a top 3 run stuffing DE in the league. How many times did you hear bithching about him getting run over like AC a couple of years ago? Never. I cant remember this injury prone player you speak of either.Your ignorance is laughable....yet sad.

[Shilsu]

I'm willing to give passes on the WR's, but I really, really disagree with the Fred Davis pick.

A second TE is not as important as a second DE.

I would have taken either Calias Campbell or Quentin Groves, whoever was graded higher.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

By trading down the Skins got 3 TALL receivers with a 1st round grade. Impressive, and it was the best way to inject life into a frustrating O. The Skins kept their picks and addressed as many needs as they felt they could.

WTF?!?!?!

Addressed as many needs as they felt they could?!?!? They addressed ONE need and ONE need ONLY! They did it with THREE PICKS that could have been used on DE's, CB's, O-Line, LB's etc.... Instead they used them all on one position, and I'd be willing to bet that NONE of those players are in the starting lineup that Thursday night at Giant Stadium.

[CapitalDefense]

Ok the 3-2nd rounders


1. I agree with the Devin Thomas pick, he was the best WR in the draft, a steal in the 2nd round.

2. DE Quentin Groves, this guy is a small edge rusher if we had him right now nobody would be sweating Phillip Daniels injury

3. CB Patrick Lee, Springs is approaching 100 and Rogers can't stay healthy. Not a value pick and if it was me I would have traded down here and maybe got the DT Harrison from Arkansas in the 3rd.

[skinzzfan25]

The trade with Atlanta was a fleecing, I'd do it every time.

I loved the Thomas pick, most were projecting him to go around 11 to Buffalo. To get him in the 2nd was a huge steal. The Davis pick seemed like a luxury selection. Cooley and Yoder made a sufficient combination. Calais Campbell would have been an excellent project pick there. He probably won't do much this year in the NFL but with the right training and technique he can be great. The Kelly pick was alright, I guess.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Daniels is a top 3 run stuffing DE in the league. How many times did you hear bithching about him getting run over like AC a couple of years ago? Never. I cant remember this injury prone player you speak of either.Your ignorance is laughable....yet sad.

Sorry but I expect a lot more out of 12 year veteran DE's than just being able to play against the run. I had thought he'd been more injury prone. I just looked and realized he wasn't... which makes the fact that he fades away into nothing on the field when it counts even more humorous in my mind.

[NattyLight]

I thought it was a very smart draft. I would have liked more corn-fed brick ****-houses from Northern Iowa with the second pick, but I think the Skins picked up the best players / athletes available at the time.

I'm still in the "glad the skins didn't get a DL just to get a DL" camp. You guys will see soon enough, Calais Campbell won't amount to a hill of beans.

EDIT: I'm also excited about seeing the Tryon kid. I doubt he'll do much, but I'm hoping for the best.

[skinfan2k]

Why would we draft Calais Campbell when we have his former D line coach here? If his old DL coach didn't want him, why would the redskins reach for him?

[HailGreen28]

Overall, drafting BPA is good.

Trading down this time seems good. Haven't seen any indication so far that we passed on an obvious Laron Landry type player in doing so.

Drafting high for a TE when we already have a young Probowler is dumb.

Drafting high for two WRs (with Moss and ARE still around) when we have a big need for DE, (and other needs as great as WR like CB, LB, OL) seems dumb. They better have really been BPA by a long shot.

Hope I'm proven wrong, but I think our draft was so-so at best.

If I could re-do things we'd have Campbell instead of Davis, and Jason Jones or Brian Brohm instead of Kelly, whichever is BPA. We need depth at DE more than WR, and since Collins out-performed Campbell last season, I think we need to plan for life after Jason, now or a couple years down the road.

I like drafting Brooks, the rest I don't enough to even comment.

[NattyLight]

Sorry but I expect a lot more out of 12 year veteran DE's than just being able to play against the run. I had thought he'd been more injury prone. I just looked and realized he wasn't... which makes the fact that he fades away into nothing on the field when it counts even more humorous in my mind.

They addressed the needs for Jim Zorn's offense. Period. There's only one way to be relevant in football: score points. And it's hard to score point sans big athletic receivers against some of the shut down corners in the league.

These guys should all prove to have some value and we get into the season. I'm excited about some preseason to watch what these kids have; they should see a lot of time. 2 weeks and counting.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

They addressed the needs for Jim Zorn's offense. Period. There's only one way to be relevant in football: score points. And it's hard to score point sans big athletic receivers against some of the shut down corners in the league.

LOL. Until this team gets a real quarterback we could have Rice, Monk, and Largent as our starting WR's and it won't make the first bit of difference. All we've done is change the guys whose names will be attached to... "Incomplete pass intended for ....." this season.


These guys should all prove to have some value and we get into the season. I'm excited about some preseason to watch what these kids have; they should see a lot of time. 2 weeks and counting.

I don't believe that more than one of these three will even make more than a handful of starts all season for us. We threw away an entire draft on guys who are not even going to have an impact this year.

[Oldskool]

Calais Campbell instead of Davis for starters.

Campbell is a 3-4 DE and a project. Too slow to be an effective 4-3 DE.

Nice try but we passed on him for a reason.


Quentin Groves over Davis would have been fine too.

A smaller DE who is inconsistent and has little motor? No thanks.

[McD5]

Why would we draft Calais Campbell when we have his former D line coach here? If his old DL coach didn't want him, why would the redskins reach for him?




Come Again??


Now we can offer a first for one to two years tops of Jason Taylor.

Where do these people come from?

[skinfan2k]

Come Again??


Now we can offer a first for one to two years tops of Jason Taylor.

Where do these people come from?

We have his former Dline coach. He performed his best under him. He talked about him before the draft and etc. IF we wanted him, we would have taken him

[IbleedBnG83]

I think this thread is bad timing. We lose to DE's so of course it will be a bit scewed. There is no doubt that any of the three players (Kelly, Thomas, and Davis) we chose can and probably will be better pros than other DE's that were available. Yeah, I'm still very happy. We need more help offensively. Everything is 20/20 in hind sight.

[Hunter_R]

I wanted Calais Campbell over Davis or Kelly. I'd probably prefer Davis over Kelly with the third pick. Being slow, and having a degenerative knee condition doesn't sit well with me, personally.

[McD5]

We have his former Dline coach. He performed his best under him. He talked about him before the draft and etc. IF we wanted him, we would have taken him

Bro......D line is our weakest position.

Even before the events of today.

You can't just sit there and wait for a pro bowler to drop to you.....if not, screw it.

You can't just sit back and neglect our most important need, (according to even Vinny.)

D-line was our most important concern.

We didn't address it.

Therefore, we failed. Draft grade C to C-.

All the other stuff is just fluff.

[NattyLight]

Bro......D line is our weakest position.

Even before the events of today.

You can't just sit there and wait for a pro bowler to drop to you.....if not, screw it.

You can't just sit back and neglect our most important need, (according to even Vinny.)

D-line was our most important concern.

We didn't address it.

Therefore, we failed. Draft grade C to C-.

All the other stuff is just fluff.

I think this whole "d-line is a biggest weakness" is a crock of ****. Sure, it's not ridiculous or anything, but our rush defense was 4th in the league last year. We have a couple of X-factors in Golston, Montgomery, and Wilson but if any two of those players prove to be above average players the line will be completely respectable.

MSF, I see what you mean by having a QB, but I'm not going to make any final assertions on Campbell until game 5 of this year.:cheers: