New McCain ad slams "The Divine Obama".

[Oldskool]

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=143513

:laugh: I thought this one was spot on with Obama's cult of personality image that he loves to cultivate.

This ad will probably only run in the south and in states where polls show a decent split.

[DarrellsMyHero28]

Heres my issue with this ad.

A) They took the 'symbol' comment out of context--as discussed here on ES he said "Its not about me..." right before he said that--which changes the statement entirely

B) It doesn't speak to a single issue in this campaign. No mention of any type of policy.

C) Its not even really an attack on Obama, its an attack on his supporters. No one in their right mind thinks he's the second coming--but charismatic speakers have a tendency to inspire alot of excitement in their followers. Obama has inspired many college-age voters who are easily riled up. It makes McCain seem like an old man bitching about how loud the young people are. Sure some of them are naive and just like Obama from his speeches but guess what? Its their right to vote for whomever they please for whatever reason they choose, and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. I'm just as annoyed that there are hard-line conservatives that won't vote for Obama because he's black or because they think he's Muslim etc.

D) Its just more negative mudslinging from McCain, who said he would stay away from that.


Again, I'll argue policy all day. I take issue with many of Obama's stances on certain topics, but I still support him and his overall platform. If McCain wants to put out ads that talk about that, I'm all for it.

[Zguy28]

Vote third party.




Oh yeah, and bacon is pretty tasty too. :)

[Oldskool]

Heres my issue with this ad.

A) They took the 'symbol' comment out of context--as discussed here on ES he said "Its not about me..." right before he said that--which changes the statement entirely

B) It doesn't speak to a single issue in this campaign. No mention of any type of policy.

C) Its not even really an attack on Obama, its an attack on his supporters. No one in their right mind thinks he's the second coming--but charismatic speakers have a tendency to inspire alot of excitement in their followers. Obama has inspired many college-age voters who are easily riled up. It makes McCain seem like an old man bitching about how loud the young people are. Sure some of them are naive and just like Obama from his speeches but guess what? Its their right to vote for whomever they please for whatever reason they choose, and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. I'm just as annoyed that there are hard-line conservatives that won't vote for Obama because he's black or because they think he's Muslim etc.

D) Its just more negative mudslinging from McCain, who said he would stay away from that.


Again, I'll argue policy all day. I take issue with many of Obama's stances on certain topics, but I still support him and his overall platform. If McCain wants to put out ads that talk about that, I'm all for it.

A. The whole ad was about Obama and his symbolism, not about what he said to try to justify having it in the 1st place.

B. It's not meant to speak to issues other than his rhetoric.

C. See A and B.

D. This really isn't mudslinging per se. This is the old tactic of using your opponents words against them. You see this every time the left attack Bush or when you have a sound byte of McCain and the "1000 year occupation" speech. None of this is dirty pool.

[Predicto]

D. This really isn't mudslinging per se. This is the old tactic of using your opponents words against them.


Or at least part of them. :)

[DarrellsMyHero28]

A. The whole ad was about Obama and his symbolism, not about what he said to try to justify having it in the 1st place.

B. It's not meant to speak to issues other than his rhetoric.

C. See A and B.

D. This really isn't mudslinging per se. This is the old tactic of using your opponents words against them. You see this every time the left attack Bush or when you have a sound byte of McCain and the "1000 year occupation" speech. None of this is dirty pool.

But it takes most of the comments out of context.

I see it as more of an attack on his supporters than Obama himself.

Its still a negative attack, which again McCain repeatedly said he was going to stay away from.

[Buford]

Vote third party.




Oh yeah, and bacon is pretty tasty too. :)


I agree on both fronts.

Oh yeah. Point #3. I think McCain is killing himself with these ads. With everyone, its easier to say he's doing what Bush did in 2000 and 2004. Something he was trying very hard to get away from.

[Smoot Point Really]

I'd rather have zero issues discussion than a lot of proposed issues that I can't freaking stomach... Senator Obama's energy policy comments have been mind-numbingly stupid, only trumped in stupidity by his economic policy...

I mean, McCain is attacking, but the attacks aren't brutal... He's basically calling it as it is... Obama has very few credentials to become President, and he has risen to "American Idol" status very quickly. The ads just point out the obvious that others have been saying.

[Duckus]

This ad is not going on the air. It is just for online.

I am really interested to see what effect this stuff has. Going negative usually ALWAYS works. But this is not really negative; it is straight up whining like a baby. I am not sure that always works. We will see.

[DarrellsMyHero28]

I mean, McCain is attacking, but the attacks aren't brutal... He's basically calling it as it is... Obama has very few credentials to become President, and he has risen to "American Idol" status very quickly. The ads just point out the obvious that others have been saying.

It doesn't really matter what you can stomach.

Campaigns should be about issues, not about how alot of people really like a particular candidate and the media treats him like a celebrity.

[Thanos]

I agree on both fronts.

Oh yeah. Point #3. I think McCain is killing himself with these ads. With everyone, its easier to say he's doing what Bush did in 2000 and 2004. Something he was trying very hard to get away from.

I agree

[Larry]

I'm also surprised that these negative ads are being released under McCain's name.

Usually, the formula is to have some deniable ally do the negative stuff. That way the enemy gets smeared, and the candidate can regretfully disapprove of what these people who he can't control are doing.

Maybe I'm weird, but to me, having McCain's name on these ads makes me think he's more honest. He's doing something I dislike, but at least he's being honest about it.

[Thanos]

Team McCain is using a dtated playbook,that will have some blowback.If I'm out of work and drowning in debt ,I want a way out not a scapegoat.

[Zguy28]

I'm also surprised that these negative ads are being released under McCain's name.

Usually, the formula is to have some deniable ally do the negative stuff. That way the enemy gets smeared, and the candidate can regretfully disapprove of what these people who he can't control are doing.

Maybe I'm weird, but to me, having McCain's name on these ads makes me think he's more honest. He's doing something I dislike, but at least he's being honest about it.Me too.

I can't stand the Ludacris way.

[heyholetsgogrant]

I snored half way throgh that ad...

-Grant

[DarrellsMyHero28]

Me too.

I can't stand the Ludacris way.

I'd bet my humble hourly wage that Obama had nothing to do with Ludacris' song.

[Zguy28]

I'd bet my humble hourly wage that Obama had nothing to do with Ludacris' song.Who knows? I'm sure he probably didn't.

But it still fits into Larry's negative-by-proxy model.

[DarrellsMyHero28]

Who knows? I'm sure he probably didn't.

But it still fits into Larry's negative-by-proxy model.

Maybe, but the attacks normally come from a group that will actually draw some media attention and will put out political ads.

Ludacris is too easily written off by both sides.

[difleha]

This is a great ad! How can McCain slams Obama in other ways if Obama doesn't propose issues which people aren't familiar with? McCain can only slam him on account of his character because that is what people are drawn to Obama for.

[difleha]

Next, McCain will seize the perfect opportunity to slam his economic policy.

[81artmonk]

I acually found this ad to be quite funny. My take on it was they were having fun with the way the media and others have made him out to be the black messiah.

I found the moses part to especially humorous!

[Smoot Point Really]

It doesn't really matter what you can stomach.

Campaigns should be about issues, not about how alot of people really like a particular candidate and the media treats him like a celebrity.

Character is an issue... Experience is an issue... The issues that are being talked about by both candidates, haven't been that important. Obama himself has been talking about "distractions" of his own making for almost a year (it's his favorite word). None of them have been concentrating on issues, and when Barack Obama opens his mouth to talk about an issue it's always about enlarging the federal government and raising taxes on the rich, then raise them again on everyone by taking from corporations who will be forced to increase their prices in order to maintain their margins so the harm done to their shareholders is minimized. He is also filled with just stupid ideas... incredibly stupid ideas. I'd rather have someone who doesn't have a single idea than someone who has a mouth that spews radically stupid ideas.

[Vicious]

Didn't bush say God put him in office? So who really is the divine one here.

[Ignatius J.]

i thought the add was great. Is obama ready to lead? !@#% yeah. do you see how many people were listening when he was talking? How many people are willing to make sacrifices to achieve the vision for this country that Barack has outlined? you may not like where he's leading, but he is a born leader. That's what a leader is. McCain can't lead his way out of a paper bag. Talk issues all you want, and maybe Obama is a little far left, but if you turn this into a question about who has the vision, power, and energy to lead this country, McCain is going to be destroyed.

[JimboDaMan]

I'm stunned that McCain actually signed his name to this. On the one hand, like Larry said I can give him style points for claiming "credit" for this. On the other hand, a rectum is a rectum, and with this video McCain is a proud little rectum.

[81artmonk]

i thought the add was great. Is obama ready to lead? !@#% yeah. do you see how many people were listening when he was talking? How many people are willing to make sacrifices to achieve the vision for this country that Barack has outlined? you may not like where he's leading, but he is a born leader. That's what a leader is. McCain can't lead his way out of a paper bag. Talk issues all you want, and maybe Obama is a little far left, but if you turn this into a question about who has the vision, power, and energy to lead this country, McCain is going to be destroyed.

So, as long as you have vision, power and energy to lead, your policy doesn't matter? Your policy could bankrupt the country, or even be horrible, but as long as you have leadership quality, your the man.

Sounds like an Obama supporter.

[Buford]

If this race is about character. McCain is hurting himself worse than Obama is.

His character should be proudly talking about what he's for. If you can't do that, and only slam the other guy. Then there is a nice trail of your character as being a hater rather than a leader.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

I acually found this ad to be quite funny. My take on it was they were having fun with the way the media and others have made him out to be the black messiah.
The black messiah?

I don't know how to respond to that comment. At least not in a way that won't get me banned. :)

[Thiebear]

The black messiah?
I don't know how to respond to that comment. At least not in a way that won't get me banned. :)

Haven't all of the Messiah's been black? Or at a minimum a Terraza Blend?
Well-balanced and boasting caramel flavors, this
light-bodied coffee is refreshing over ice.?(Starbucks)

:cool:

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Haven't all of the Messiah's been black? Or at a minimum a Terraza Blend?
Well-balanced and boasting caramel flavors, this
light-bodied coffee is refreshing over ice.?(Starbucks)

:cool:

:laugh: You got me there. :cheers:

[JimboDaMan]

So, as long as you have vision, power and energy to lead, your policy doesn't matter? Your policy could bankrupt the country, or even be horrible, but as long as you have leadership quality, your the man.

Sounds like an Obama supporter.I would presume that everyone here, including you, is well aware that he didn't say that. Just vote for McCain and be done with it. Its certainly not going to sway anybody else's vote to make stuff up, and then argue with the guy over stuff he didn't say. Seems to me he said:

1) Leadership is important.
2) Obama has leadership qualities.
3) McCain does not.
4) Obama's policies are "a little" different from what the poster prefers.
5) If the election becomes about who is the better leader, Obama wins easily.

Anything more is putting words in the guy's mouth. You might honestly believe that's what the poster meant. But anyone with eyes knows that's not what he said.