Brett Favre IS NOT that important to the NFL.

[sith lord]

Am I missing something? I was listening to the radio last night and the host of a local sports talk show compared Favre's importance to the NFL to Micheal Jordan's importance to the NBA. The difference IMO is that the NFL is way bigger than one player. MJ actually became as big as the NBA. The whole word knows who MJ is. You can't say the same for Favre. It seems as if the media and the NFL is trying to make Favre into something he's not.

With Goodell's involvement, to me that's telling everybody that he is bigger than the league. How many times have a commisioner ever got involved in team transactions like this? I never recalled this ever happening. Now the Packers hire a former White House Press Secretary to deal with the media? Give me a break. When does it end?

[Chief skin]

He is a first ballot hall of famer

[SkinsTerps26]

He is a first ballot hall of famer

so is scotty, ewing, and olajuwann, but those 3 aren't Michael Jordan

Favre 1 SB in what? 17 years or whatever its been.

[zoony]

I'm with you Sith. There have been better QB's to play the game. Much better. He won 1 Superbowl. :jerk:

Good player, great even. But nowhere near as important as the league and media is making him out to be.

....

[sith lord]

He is a first ballot hall of famer

There's a lot of first ballot hall of famers that wouldn't get this treatment.

[PokerPacker]

Football is much more of a team sport than Basketball and one person can't do everything nearly to the same extent that Basketball allows. You really can't compare people across the sports like that.

[Predicto]

I agree with Sith.

[Midnight Judges]

I agree with the sentiment. Favre is obviously a HOF QB, but for some reason I always feel like ESPN is overrating him.

In the opening to the HOF coverage last Saturday, I was a little annoyed that it was becoming the Brett Favre show.

[Henry]

I like Brett Favre but this offseason drama is absolutely ridiculous.

[renaissance]

Brett Favre may be that important to the Packers and their fans, but no way he is THAT important to the NFL. I'm so tired of hearing about his soap opera. He should have just kept playing or retired with class (as it had seemed he was doing).

[ECU-ALUM]

I like Brett Favre but this offseason drama is absolutely ridiculous.


Agreed...he has done a lot for the game, he has a lot records and he is rarely ever boring to watch...however all of this coverage on him...come on the man is coming back to play he is not dying or being given Sainthood. :rolleyes:

[zoony]

I wouldn't even put him in my top 10 of greatest QB's

1-(tie) Joe Montana and Brady
3- Johnny U
4- John Elway
5- Sammy Baugh :D
6- Steve Young
7- Peyton Manning
8- Dan Marino
9- Roger Staubach
10- Jim Kelly

[Predicto]

I wouldn't even put him in my top 10 of greatest QB's

1-(tie) Joe Montana and Brady
3- Johnny U
4- John Elway
5- Sammy Baugh :D
6- Steve Young
7- Peyton Manning
8- Dan Marino
9- Roger Staubach
10- Jim Kelly


He would make my top 10.

1. Steve Young
2. Joe Montana/Johnny Unitas (tied)
4. Tom Brady
5. Brett Favre
6. Peyton Manning
7. Dan Marino
8. Sonny Jurgensen
9. Roger Staubach
10. John Elway

[zoony]

I love sonny and all, but putting him ahead of elway is the ultimate homer move :laugh:

(not that there's anything wrong with that. I'd take him ahead of Elway too, I just didn't want to have to defend it :D )

[Zguy28]

There's a lot of first ballot hall of famers that wouldn't get this treatment.Yep, but they wouldn't make the stink Favre is making either.

NFL just thinks its protecting its PR image.:2cents:

[Thiebear]

sit his ass on the bench for retiring.
check that, keep it going, takes the spotlight off everyone else.

[dfitzo53]

This just in - Brett Favre eats a bowl of Froot Loops™ and cuts a big fart.

In related news, ESPN is contemplating a name change to the BFNN - Brett Favre News Network. All Brett, all the time.
(Although they still plan to run a ticker at the bottom of the screen so you won't miss the top 10 reasons the Cowboys are God's gift to football.)

[Predicto]

I love sonny and all, but putting him ahead of elway is the ultimate homer move :laugh:

(not that there's anything wrong with that. I'd take him ahead of Elway too, I just didn't want to have to defend it :D )


I really believe it. The stats (adjusted for the time they played) bear it out too. Elway was great, but a bit overrated, IMO.

[Zguy28]

This just in - Brett Favre eats a bowl of Froot Loops™ and cuts a big fart.

In related news, ESPN is contemplating a name change to the BFNN - Brett Favre News Network. All Brett, all the time.
(Although they still plan to run a ticker at the bottom of the screen so you won't miss the top 10 reasons the Cowboys are God's gift to football.)I heard John Madden is the new anchor.

[StillUnknown]

but..........he has so much fun playing the game, he's like a kid out there :rolleyes:

[JeffSchmeff]

Favre always threw critical interceptions to lose the game for his team. Look at the latest game when they played the Giants - critical INT in the end of the game. I was watching an NFL Network replay of a playoff game between San Fran and GB in I think 1992 or 93, and Favre threw a critial pick at the end of the game to cost his team the win.

A couple of years ago when they were playing the Eagles (again, in the playoffs) he throws that ball to God knows who for the INT at the end of the game to lose it for his team.

Sense a theme? These are all of the top of my head too.

[#98QBKiller]

Farve's a cool dude and I like him as a player but seriously enough is enough. I'm sick of hearing about him

[Painkiller]

Originally Posted by dfitzo53
This just in - Brett Favre eats a bowl of Froot Loops™ and cuts a big fart.

In related news, ESPN is contemplating a name change to the BFNN - Brett Favre News Network. All Brett, all the time.
(Although they still plan to run a ticker at the bottom of the screen so you won't miss the top 10 reasons the Cowboys are God's gift to football.)



Originaly Posted by Zguy28

I heard John Madden is the new anchor.

:laugh:

Madden has a serious man crush on Favre, no question. I heard that Favre was going to be getting his own Sirius channel. Like Siriously Sinatra, his will be called Furiously Favre. There will be (24) hour coverage of all things Brett Favre.

Oh wait, we already have that channel and it's called ESPN. :D

[edgun88]

I lost all respect for Brett Farve this offseason. He showed me that he is all about himself. I hope he doesn't get his job back.

[sith lord]

I lost all respect for Brett Farve this offseason. He showed me that he is all about himself. I hope he doesn't get his job back.

Now it's been reported that he doesn't want an open competition and would rather be traded.

[Painkiller]

Now it's been reported that he doesn't want an open competition and would rather be traded.

This is what happens when people start believing too much of their own press.

[ECU-ALUM]

Now it's been reported that he doesn't want an open competition and would rather be traded.


:doh: To quote C-3PO..."Oh this will never end."

No player in ANY sport is worth this much drama and attention...this crap has got to stop.

[edgun88]

Now it's been reported that he doesn't want an open competition and would rather be traded.


Really? Well he should be. It really is unfair to Aaron Rodgers.

[zoony]

You know what would be effing great?

If Aaron Rodgers decides he's had enough, and demands a trade. :) Nobody's thought of that yet.

that would leave the dumbasses in the Packers FO with a 55 year old starter for one season and 0 prospects for the future.

:fingersx:

[sith lord]

This is what happens when people start believing too much of their own press.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[Painkiller]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

To borrow from one of my favorite movies, Young Guns II

"BRETT FAVRE...YOU....ARE NOT.......A GOD!!"

[ECU-ALUM]

With Brett being such a drama queen (or king) here...it's no wonder Cameron Diaz picked Ben Stiller over him in "There's something about Mary."

[Redd]

A little offtopic but has Aaron Rodgers played any Exhibition games this season? If so what are his stats? Hopefully he's putting up great numbers because I would love to see Brett Favre humbled having to be his backup. I wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers looks bad in Preseason and Favre looks average at best that Favre will be the starter in the beginning of the regular season.

[edgun88]

You know what would be effing great?

If Aaron Rodgers decides he's had enough, and demands a trade. :) Nobody's thought of that yet.

that would leave the dumbasses in the Packers FO with a 55 year old starter for one season and 0 prospects for the future.

:fingersx:


Wow. That would be epic. :laugh:

[StillUnknown]

Now it's been reported that he doesn't want an open competition and would rather be traded.

and apparently he only wants to go to a team within the division

[JetSkins]

this whole favre saga coverage on ESPN just makes me hate the network even more because of what they have become

[ccsl2]

Brett Favre is good..throws too many INTs for me...The only great thing about him is his wife's looks IMO. That's it, that's the list!

[JeffSchmeff]

You know what would be effing great?

If Aaron Rodgers decides he's had enough, and demands a trade. :) Nobody's thought of that yet.

that would leave the dumbasses in the Packers FO with a 55 year old starter for one season and 0 prospects for the future.

:fingersx:


They drafted Brohm in the 2nd round this past offseason. They are in good shape if they can get rid of Favre.

[FanboyOf91]

A little offtopic but has Aaron Rodgers played any Exhibition games this season? If so what are his stats? Hopefully he's putting up great numbers because I would love to see Brett Favre humbled having to be his backup. I wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers looks bad in Preseason and Favre looks average at best that Favre will be the starter in the beginning of the regular season.

Favre holding the clipboard would be priceless to see. :applause:

And if he bitches, the coach could say Favre needs to "stop undermining the team." :laugh:

[Dictator]

I agree with Sith. I can't believe one man can hold a team hostage like he has. Gb should allow him on their roster, but make him ride the bench if that's what the coaches want. If he doesn't like it, Tough ****.

[Stophovr6]

My problem is that they are making him bigger than the game, than the league. I fault ESPN mostly for this. But it still stands to reason that starting off HOF ceremony's and games talking about Brett is ridiculous. I'm so sick of Brett Favre right now, I just can't respect him.

[ccsl2]

Does anyone remember the Monday Night game last year when GB played Denver, and Brett Favre's wife did the intro along the lines of "Why we love Brett".

After it was over, TK, Jaws, and Tirico were like "That intro brought tears to my eyes". ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME!!!!! I couldn't believe it.

Am I the only one who remembers this?

[Fletch_Lives59]

Favre will go to Minnesota~calling it....

[jthor99]

Am I missing something? I was listening to the radio last night and the host of a local sports talk show compared Favre's importance to the NFL to Micheal Jordan's importance to the NBA. The difference IMO is that the NFL is way bigger than one player. MJ actually became as big as the NBA. The whole word knows who MJ is. You can't say the same for Favre. It seems as if the media and the NFL is trying to make Favre into something he's not.

With Goodell's involvement, to me that's telling everybody that he is bigger than the league. How many times have a commisioner ever got involved in team transactions like this? I never recalled this ever happening. Now the Packers hire a former White House Press Secretary to deal with the media? Give me a break. When does it end?

I agree with you that he's not bigger then the league itself.

But, I think you can argue that essitentally when anyone talks about the Packers the first 2 people you think of is : Brett Favre, and Lombardi. Not sure if it's my age, and likely it is, but I always think of Favre when mentioning the GB Packers.

I personally have been getting sick of hte national media this story has gotten, but I also think the Packers themselves (Ted Thompson) have handled this situation poorly.

The fact that they sent that weasel who has only by employed by the Packers since Dec 07 to basically try to buy Brett Favre into retirement just made this situation alot worse. To me that was almost a smack in the face. They were willing to pay the guy 20 to 25M over 10 years to stay away.

What about making your football team BETTER and allowing him to come back?

That's where my confunsion on the matter is. Remember the only question the Packers should be asking themselves is Does Brett Favre give this team the best chance to win?

[jthor99]

I agree with Sith. I can't believe one man can hold a team hostage like he has. Gb should allow him on their roster, but make him ride the bench if that's what the coaches want. If he doesn't like it, Tough ****.

Hold a team hostage?

Brett Favre has certainly looked bad in this situation don't get me wrong. But, Ted Thompson hasn't looked much better. The whole way he went about this was bushleague.

First you want to move on with Aaron Rodgers, and I get all of that. But, if thats the case and you feel that Rodgers is the better QB for the team then why not trade Brett or cut him?

Essientally your saying that Rodgers is the better man for the football team, so why would it matter where Brett Favre ended up if the "better" QB is on YOUR roster?

Ted Thompson has had just as many blunders in this situation as Favre

As Mosley said " No matter how bad Favre has looked in this whole thing -- and he's looked awful -- he still gives this team the best chance to win a Super Bowl in 2008. "

[pjfootballer]

I agree with the sentiment. Favre is obviously a HOF QB, but for some reason I always feel like ESPN is overrating him.

In the opening to the HOF coverage last Saturday, I was a little annoyed that it was becoming the Brett Favre show.

Not to mention that they cut away to his plane landing and then him and his hot wife getting off the plane. I thought that was overkill (except the hot wife part. :D ).

[China]

The Favre saga is getting way too much attention from the press. There are other teams with various things going on (injuries, suspensions, etc.) that barely get any coverage. I'm more curious who'll be starting in Baltimore. I'm guessing Troy Smith.

I'm not going to rate my top 10, but Favre would probably make it. The thing about him is he's a big risk taker, and we all saw a couple of years ago when the team around him wasn't so good that he tried to carry the team and ended up throwing alot of INTs.

[Bang]

Whether he's that big or not is irrelevant. The situation is a big steaming pile of **** the Packers have to swallow, and even while being shown that they hav e no choice, they would just as soon cut off their own nose to spite their face.

Their options are limited, and there is no longer any sense in whining over the waste that Rodgers has been forced to become. (Guess what.. Aaron Rodgers = Jay Fiedler, .. Brian Griese.. Danny White,, Mark Malone.. get it? Follow a legend, you're going nowhere. It's just the way it is. Steve Young did it, but he's an HOFer in his own right and his talent was well known before SF ever picked him up. Aaron Rodgers ain't no Steve Young.)

They should do three things to make the entire situation go away.

1. Put Favre on the field. He's back, there's nothing they can do about it. He's the best QB in the entire division, hands down.
2. Tell Rodgers he's sitting. This idea of an open competition is a joke.
3. Ignore any more nonsense from the media over it and continue along as if he'd never retired. Begin grooming Brohm.


Top ten field generals to win a game (Guys who played in my time of watching)
Dan Marino
John elway
Joe Montana
Tom Brady
Roger Staubach
Brett Favre
Ken Stabler
Jeff Garcia (believe it or not. Never ever count that guy out of a game. this is a guy who TRUCKED Brian Dawkins to get into the end zone in a furious comeback he led while in Cleveland. Anyone who can man up and truck Dawkins earns respect.)
Phil Simms
Joe Theismann

~Bang


~Bang

[pjfootballer]

My top 10 to win ballgames and be a field general

1. Montana
2. Unitas
3. Elway
4. Marino
5. Brady
6. Manning
7. O.Graham
8. Young
9. Fouts
10. Favre/Baugh/Jurgenson/Staubach

[Bang]

If ever a situation called for a cartoon.......
the timing is off for me this week..
I put one up last week that is sort of about it
www.bangcartoon.com/2007/oldflame.htm

But I'm heading out of town this week and then re-desiging the site to get ready for the season when I get back. By the time i'm set to make a toon it will have died down, I'm sure.

~Bang

[ccsl2]

If Brett Favre had just said "I am coming back" instead of that fake ass crying and crap in the press conference when he "retired", he would be back as thre starter by now.

The Packers moved on and 2 weeks before camp Brett wants to come back. Brett put them in a bad spot. Not to mention that last couple of years he had been hemming and hawwing about coming back. Brett made this bed, not the Packers have to do what is best for the Packers. This is a business.

[Dictator]

If Brett Favre had just said "I am coming back" instead of that fake ass crying and crap in the press conference when he "retired", he would be back as thre starter by now.

The Packers moved on and 2 weeks before camp Brett wants to come back. Brett put them in a bad spot. Not to mention that last couple of years he had been hemming and hawwing about coming back. Brett made this bed, not the Packers have to do what is best for the Packers. This is a business.

Yup. and what's best, in the short term, is for Favre to be the QB. BUT, it'll hurt them in the long term. So what's more important: Winning now, or winning later.
There's no guarantee they'll win now OR later.

[jthor99]

If Brett Favre had just said "I am coming back" instead of that fake ass crying and crap in the press conference when he "retired", he would be back as thre starter by now.

The Packers moved on and 2 weeks before camp Brett wants to come back. Brett put them in a bad spot. Not to mention that last couple of years he had been hemming and hawwing about coming back. Brett made this bed, not the Packers have to do what is best for the Packers. This is a business.

Fake crying? Give me a break. That has nothing to do why Brett Favre isn't back right now. He isn't back because the Ted Thompson's first pick was Aaron Rodgers, and he can't stand the fact that Brett Favre and this rest of the nation can't understand that.

Ted Thompson is putting all his chips on the table at the moment. He's either going to be flush or bust. I have a feeling its going to be bust

And by the way if it's a business then why not bring Brett Favre back? Brett Favre gives the Packers business. They were one game away from the Superbowl last year, and now all of a sudden "We've moved on from Brett and Aaron is our guy".

Thompson is nothing more than a coward. Since he wasn't man enough to do it himself he told the owner to try to lure Brett with cash in order to keep him retired. The fact that Brett said 'Nope" to that choice even makes Thompson and the Packers organization look worse. Thompson has created his PR nightmare by not allowing the greatest player in this history of your franchise back to lead the helm.

The only question Ted Thompson neesd to ask himself is does Brett Favre make this football team better? Very simple

[sith lord]

Fake crying? Give me a break. That has nothing to do why Brett Favre isn't back right now. He isn't back because the Ted Thompson's first pick was Aaron Rodgers, and he can't stand the fact that Brett Favre and this rest of the nation can't understand that.

Ted Thompson is putting all his chips on the table at the moment. He's either going to be flush or bust. I have a feeling its going to be bust

And by the way if it's a business then why not bring Brett Favre back? Brett Favre gives the Packers business. They were one game away from the Superbowl last year, and now all of a sudden "We've moved on from Brett and Aaron is our guy".

Thompson is nothing more than a coward. Since he wasn't man enough to do it himself he told the owner to try to lure Brett with cash in order to keep him retired. The fact that Brett said 'Nope" to that choice even makes Thompson and the Packers organization look worse. Thompson has created his PR nightmare by not allowing the greatest player in this history of your franchise back to lead the helm.

The only question Ted Thompson neesd to ask himself is does Brett Favre make this football team better? Very simple

This just in. Brett Favre leaves camp. :doh:

[codeorama]

Yikes, I can't believe I'm typing this... I agree with Sith... :paranoid:


I'm sick of the Favre thing, I really hope he bombs this year. That would be hilarious in my opinion.

[Dictator]

Fake crying? Give me a break. That has nothing to do why Brett Favre isn't back right now. He isn't back because the Ted Thompson's first pick was Aaron Rodgers, and he can't stand the fact that Brett Favre and this rest of the nation can't understand that.

Ted Thompson is putting all his chips on the table at the moment. He's either going to be flush or bust. I have a feeling its going to be bust

And by the way if it's a business then why not bring Brett Favre back? Brett Favre gives the Packers business. They were one game away from the Superbowl last year, and now all of a sudden "We've moved on from Brett and Aaron is our guy".

Thompson is nothing more than a coward. Since he wasn't man enough to do it himself he told the owner to try to lure Brett with cash in order to keep him retired. The fact that Brett said 'Nope" to that choice even makes Thompson and the Packers organization look worse. Thompson has created his PR nightmare by not allowing the greatest player in this history of your franchise back to lead the helm.

The only question Ted Thompson neesd to ask himself is does Brett Favre make this football team better? Very simple

Actually, Ted needs to be concerned with the future of this franchise as well. Is starting Favre the best thing for the all around health of the Packers?

Slam TT all you want, it doesn't negate the fact that Favre, is wishy-washy and acting like a spoiled brat.

[Stophovr6]

I hope the packers trade him to a horrible team for a ham sandwich.

[ccsl2]

Fake crying? Give me a break. That has nothing to do why Brett Favre isn't back right now. He isn't back because the Ted Thompson's first pick was Aaron Rodgers, and he can't stand the fact that Brett Favre and this rest of the nation can't understand that.

Ted Thompson is putting all his chips on the table at the moment. He's either going to be flush or bust. I have a feeling its going to be bust

And by the way if it's a business then why not bring Brett Favre back? Brett Favre gives the Packers business. They were one game away from the Superbowl last year, and now all of a sudden "We've moved on from Brett and Aaron is our guy".

Thompson is nothing more than a coward. Since he wasn't man enough to do it himself he told the owner to try to lure Brett with cash in order to keep him retired. The fact that Brett said 'Nope" to that choice even makes Thompson and the Packers organization look worse. Thompson has created his PR nightmare by not allowing the greatest player in this history of your franchise back to lead the helm.

The only question Ted Thompson neesd to ask himself is does Brett Favre make this football team better? Very simple


Brett left camp. Now what?? He didn't want to compete for his job?

They moved on because he RETIRED!!!!!! If he had stayed, Aaron Rodgers would still be the back up. He retired, they moved on. Then he waits 4 months to say I want to come back. If you subsitute TO in for brett Favre, ESPN would be burying him. ESPN is too busy kissing Favre's butt to see that players don't run the organization.

[DCMONEY]

While I think Favre's timing in this whole thing is bad, I don't totally blame him either. I mean the Packers can just release him if he's so much trouble. Evidently he must not be. I don't see whats the problem. This is a business. The Packers if they want to contend this year, the odds are that they need to start Favre. :2cents:

[codeorama]

Let me ask, didn't Favre's return have serious salary cap implications? To me, once he said he was retiring, I'm sure the team made financial decisions... now what? Who gets cut, who's going to restructure their contracts?

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Lists are dumb.

Anyway, here is how I explain Brett Favre. Your typical sportswriter is 57-year-old white man who grew up worshipping Mickey Mantle. And all they knew about the Mick was that he was good looking, had a fun accent, and could crush a baseball. They didn't know that he was an alcoholic whore-monger.

So, they reached an ager where they realized that pretty much every pro athlete is an alcoholic whore-monger. And that depressed them.

But then here comes Favre. He has a goofy accent. He's a big kid like the Mick. He throws the ball a country mile. (Andmaybeheisapillheadbutwedon'tneedtotalkabouttha t).

So, they've recreated their childhood crush in the Mick in Favre.

And here we are.

And that begs the question: Where the hell is Billy Martin now that we really need him?

[ccsl2]

While I think Favre's timing in this whole thing is bad, I don't totally blame him either. I mean the Packers can just release him if he's so much trouble. Evidently he must not be. I don't see whats the problem. This is a business. The Packers if they want to contend this year, the odds are that they need to start Favre. :2cents:


Not if Brett has value. I wouldn't release him without getting some back in return.

[ccsl2]

Lists are dumb.

Anyway, here is how I explain Brett Favre. Your typical sportswriter is 57-year-old white man who grew up worshipping Mickey Mantle. And all they knew about the Mick was that he was good looking, had a fun accent, and could crush a baseball. They didn't know that he was an alcoholic whore-monger.

So, they reached an ager where they realized that pretty much every pro athlete is an alcoholic whore-monger. And that depressed them.

But then here comes Favre. He has a goofy accent. He's a big kid like the Mick. He throws the ball a country mile. (Andmaybeheisapillheadbutwedon'tneedtotalkabouttha t).

So, they've recreated their childhood crush in the Mick in Favre.

And here we are.

And that begs the question: Where the hell is Billy Martin now that we really
need him?

good analogy

[dcnativenerd]

Exactly! No one is saying Farve isn't a great quarterback, but he is, in no way, BIGGER than the NFL. NO ONE is bigger than the NFL.

[zoony]

I can't believe some of you are putting the NFL's greatest Interception machine of all time into your top 10 for all time.


And Bang, you seem to not think very highly of Rodgers. How do we know? He looked great last season against the Cowboys.

[codeorama]

I can't believe some of you are putting the NFL's greatest Interception machine of all time into your top 10 for all time.


And Bang, you seem to not think very highly of Rodgers. How do we know? He looked great last season against the Cowboys.

Excellent points... Favre has lost as many games as he's won with his arm.

How did the Packers fail in the end last year?? Favre INT.

[zoony]

I can't believe some of you are putting the NFL's greatest Interception machine of all time into your top 10 for all time.


And Bang, you seem to not think very highly of Rodgers. How do we know? He looked great last season against the Cowboys.


Oh, and he has as many SB wins as Trent Dilfer. He's probably singlehandedly cost the Packers as many games as he's singlehandedly won for them.

People love the wild and crazy gunslinger I guess.

[F Landry]

You know what would be effing great?

If Aaron Rodgers decides he's had enough, and demands a trade. :) Nobody's thought of that yet.

that would leave the dumbasses in the Packers FO with a 55 year old starter for one season and 0 prospects for the future.

:fingersx:
Uhh...no offense but you are completely wrong with the "0 prospects for the future" statement.

I don't mean to take a dump on your little anti-Favre parade; but in this years draft alone they drafted Brian Brohm (widely regarded as one of the TOP QBs in the draft), and Matt Flynn as a late-round pick (who was no slouch at LSU, either).

:laugh: :laugh:

[zoony]

Uhh...no offense but you are completely wrong with the "0 prospects for the future" statement.

I don't mean to take a dump on your little anti-Favre parade; but in this years draft alone they drafted Brian Brohm (widely regarded as one of the TOP QBs in the draft), and Matt Flynn as a late-round pick (who was no slouch at LSU, either).

:laugh: :laugh:


I'm trying to figure out why you're laughing

:laugh: :laugh:

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

First you want to move on with Aaron Rodgers, and I get all of that. But, if thats the case and you feel that Rodgers is the better QB for the team then why not trade Brett or cut him?
Because Brett Favre is better then Rex Grossman, Jon Kitna, and Tavaris Jackson. And the Packers have to compete with their teams for the division and play them at least twice this year.

[F Landry]

I'm trying to figure out why you're laughing

:laugh: :laugh:
I find it funny that people like to throw out random statements that aren't backed up by fact.

Opinions can be easily disproved.

:)

[DieselPwr44]

How do we know? He looked great last season against the Cowboys.

After Dallas was up big and "called the dogs off" on D.

What do we know of Rodgers? The guy can't stay on the field. Heck, he even got injured in the Dallas game.

What was Gregg Williams' mantra here?? Availabilty counts for alot. That's what hurts Rodgers.

But, look at the bright side of all of this: The road to the playoffs just got easier with Favre out of the picture in Green Bay.

They'll go 6-10 with Rodgers behind center.

[jthor99]

Brett left camp. Now what?? He didn't want to compete for his job?

They moved on because he RETIRED!!!!!! If he had stayed, Aaron Rodgers would still be the back up. He retired, they moved on. Then he waits 4 months to say I want to come back. If you subsitute TO in for brett Favre, ESPN would be burying him. ESPN is too busy kissing Favre's butt to see that players don't run the organization.

Oh give me a break. Were the Packers really niave enough to think Brett Favre was actually going to stay retired. There is more this than many of use know. This realtionship between Brett and Ted Thompson has been growing sour for sometime now.

And the fact that McCarthy keeps pulling out the PR BS of "Aaron Rodgers is our starting QB and we have moved on"...Please knock that crap off. Seriously, you're going to make the best QB in the history of your franchise and one of the best QB's EVER compete for the starting job?

Let me ask you think if Barry Sanders would of come back to the Lions the year after he retired do you think the Lions would of allowed him to "compete" for the starting RB job? It's almost a laughable question.

Ted Thompson job as a General Manager is to put the best team out on the football field to WIN. Period

If any of you or the Packers can honestly sit here and say that Rodgers gives them the Best chance to win. Then you obviously don't know much about football.

You know why Brett Favre is getting his butt kissed by ESPN? Because he been more classy in his whole career then 90% of this league. Now, that the man wants to come out of retirment (which by the way ANYONE is allowed the choice to do, but yet Brett Favre is considered some selfish prick.) if sudenly becomes everyone saying "Brett Favre is selfish blah, blah, blah".

If Ted Thompson has such a hard on for Aarod Roders then why did he draft 2 QB's, and if that doesn't satifsy him enough then RE SIGN HIM long term.

[81artmonk]

Obviously I am not a Greenbay fan, but I don't get this facination with Favre.

Hasn't he retired twice now?? Everytime I have watched him play, he has thrown more INT's than Td's. He is a loose cannon with talent who took too many risks when he should have been smart and has luckily benefited from it.

I really don't see him as this great QB that the sports media has made him out to be.

I think the fact driving this whole fiasco is there aren't any Montanas, or aikmans or jergensens out there right now, so favre is the closest thing we have to a good QB to try and imortalize.

Personally, I think he is a joke. He retires than comes back and than retires and than wants to come back. I mean c'mon dude. **** or get off the pot!!!

[FlyinO]

I wouldn't even put him in my top 10 of greatest QB's

1-(tie) Joe Montana and Brady
3- Johnny U
4- John Elway
5- Sammy Baugh :D
6- Steve Young
7- Peyton Manning
8- Dan Marino
9- Roger Staubach
10- Jim Kelly

John Elway is way too high on your list. He once held the record for the worst Super Bowl performance by a QB (QB-rating wise) until Kerry Collins made it to a Super Bowl. As a matter of fact, from what I read in a post in ATN, he also had the glorious claim of second worst QB-rating ever in a Super Bowl. Top that off with a career QB-rating of 79...Elway played in the AFC when the AFC was :pooh: .

[ccsl2]

Obviously I am not a Greenbay fan, but I don't get this facination with Favre.

Hasn't he retired twice now?? Everytime I have watched him play, he has thrown more INT's than Td's. He is a loose cannon with talent who took too many risks when he should have been smart and has luckily benefited from it.

I really don't see him as this great QB that the sports media has made him out to be.

I think the fact driving this whole fiasco is there aren't any Montanas, or aikmans or jergensens out there right now, so favre is the closest thing we have to a good QB to try and imortalize.

Personally, I think he is a joke. He retires than comes back and than retires and than wants to come back. I mean c'mon dude. **** or get off the pot!!!

I totally agree. If you know you can still play then why retire?

[ccsl2]

Oh give me a break. Were the Packers really niave enough to think Brett Favre was actually going to stay retired. There is more this than many of use know. This realtionship between Brett and Ted Thompson has been growing sour for sometime now.

And the fact that McCarthy keeps pulling out the PR BS of "Aaron Rodgers is our starting QB and we have moved on"...Please knock that crap off. Seriously, you're going to make the best QB in the history of your franchise and one of the best QB's EVER compete for the starting job?

Let me ask you think if Barry Sanders would of come back to the Lions the year after he retired do you think the Lions would of allowed him to "compete" for the starting RB job? It's almost a laughable question.

Ted Thompson job as a General Manager is to put the best team out on the football field to WIN. Period

If any of you or the Packers can honestly sit here and say that Rodgers gives them the Best chance to win. Then you obviously don't know much about football.

You know why Brett Favre is getting his butt kissed by ESPN? Because he been more classy in his whole career then 90% of this league. Now, that the man wants to come out of retirment (which by the way ANYONE is allowed the choice to do, but yet Brett Favre is considered some selfish prick.) if sudenly becomes everyone saying "Brett Favre is selfish blah, blah, blah".

If Ted Thompson has such a hard on for Aarod Roders then why did he draft 2 QB's, and if that doesn't satifsy him enough then RE SIGN HIM long term.

Here's the thing about Barry Sanders: He retired and STAYED retired. He didn't waffle 2 years in a row talking about "This might be my last game!" You do that two years in a row, and then the 3rd year you finally say "I'm retired", that would mean to me that he has had enough.

Favre knew at that press conference that he could still play. So if you know you can play still, then why retire? If he comes back the job is his. But no, he had to wait 4 months and then say I wanna come back. After the Packers have worked with Rodgers from March to now. And now all of a sudden they are suppsoed to just up and say, "Ok Brett it's your job". Then when they say you gotta compete, he says no I don't wanna compete, trade me, but trade me where I wanna go. He is trying to be GM and QB. People are actigj liek they won thew Super Bowl Last year. The year before he had damn near 30 INTs. Brett made his bed, now he has to lay in it.

[zoony]

I find it funny that people like to throw out random statements that aren't backed up by fact.

Opinions can be easily disproved.

:)




You need to look up the definition of opinion. Besides, you disproved nothing, only that you think Brohm is the second coming and that you have a man crush on Favre. See, that's your opinion. And I can't disprove it. Because I, unlike you, know what opinion means.




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