DMN: Don't panic Dallas Cowboys fans; it's only one preseason game

[tr1]

Wow, didn't take long for the exuses to pop up.... :laugh:


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/jtaylor/stories/081308dnspocownewsletter.36409a0.html
After one preseason game, it seems most of you think Felix Jones is going to the Hall of Fame and Martellus Bennett should be cut.

My response: Chill out.

Nothing is concrete after one preseason game. We won't even know what either guy is capable of at the end of this season. It takes time, whether you choose to believe that or not.

Different players learn at a different pace. Some rookies are learning to handle real failure for the first time.

Bennett is an athletic freak. Do you think he's been manhandled much in his athletic career? Nope. It takes time to learn how to handle getting your butt kicked, while not letting it affect the next play.

Jones looked terrific in the first game, but he still must learn how to handle the rigors of an NFL season. He must deal with teams game-planning for him once he starts getting special attention.

I expect him to be a good player, but there are no guarantees. Let's stop labeling guys so quickly.

Time will tell. We don't have to guess.
COWBOYS Q&A

Q: Our bad kick-coverage teams are going to kill us this season if they don't improve.

John Trovato

TAYLOR: I think you're right, but I assume they will improve. The first game is usually the worst for the coverage units because you have a bunch of young guys, who are excited, and don't stay in their lanes because they're trying so hard to make a play and earn a roster spot. Let's wait another couple of weeks before all the gloom and doom starts.

Q: Is Tashard Choice better than Felix Jones? I am reading that he is. You should know.

Tom Allen

TAYLOR: Where, my friend, have you been reading that? Choice has been solid during training camp, but Jones has been everything the Cowboys thought he would be when they drafted him. Choice will have a role on this team, but Jones is going to be a significant contributor.
• • •

Q: Could you give us your opinion on Brad Johnson's performance against the San Diego Chargers. I know that it's the first game of preseason, but he didn't seem to be real sharp with his decision-making, especially after his first and second read. We seem to get more pep in the offense when Richard Bartel took over.

Sharp, Los Angeles

TAYLOR: You had me going until you said Bartel looked better than Johnson. Give me a break. Bartel is not even just a guy, though he has improved from last season. Johnson will get some work with the first team in practice or during the game this weekend, so the Cowboys can figure out whether they need him to be the No. 2 or No. 3 quarterback.

The second-team line struggled and that played a role in Johnson looking bad. The Cowboys are trying to figure out how much of that is Johnson and how much of it is the second team.
• • •

Q: The Anthony Fasano trade still bothers me. They gave up a young guy who seemed to be a reliable blocker with good hands, and they drafted Martellus Bennett in his place, who is clearly a project.

Matt Packard, Southlake

TAYLOR: This isn't just directed at you, Matt; it's directed at a lot of people. You guys overreact way too much to one preseason game. It takes some guys longer to develop than others. Fasano didn't do anything in two seasons for you to think he's going to develop into one of the game's best tight ends.

He was OK, but let's not act like he was anything but that. Bennett has struggled, but guys adjust at different rates. Let's wait a season or two before we claim without equivocation that he can't play.
• • •

Q: First-team defense looks ready. However, this stuff about not tackling in camp creates bad form and habits. I would put the second and third teams through the Oklahoma Drill next week.

Chuck Cypert, Plano

TAYLOR: Chuck, that sounds great in theory. But do that, and you might not have enough backups to get through practice. Phillips is trying to figure out how to get his team through training camp without sustaining any injuries. For now, that's the big goal. Thus far, he's been successful with that approach. At the same time, there's no doubt that they were a little bit rusty because they haven't hit much in practice. That shouldn't be as much of an issue in Denver.
• • •

Q: Talking to the incoming coaches here (A&M), they were ecstatic when coach Dennis Franchione decided to leave. They could not figure out how a guy as talented as Martellus Bennett failed to put up any kind of numbers at the NCAA level. Even though Fran was hideously offensive as an offensive coach, that should never have stopped Bennett from getting several throws. He is a nice kid but a horrible player in regards to the bottom line aspects of football.

Bryan Rich

TAYLOR: I have one word in response: whatever. Coach Fran had one of the worst passing offenses in the country, which might be why Bennett is having such a hard time adjusting to the NFL. Maybe, he hasn't had any real coaching about technique since he left high school. You said yourself Coach Fran was hideous. Bennett must not have been too bad since he was drafted in the second round. This is what I call piling on.
• • •

Q: How is Hudson Houck coaching the line in comparison to Tony Sparano? What improvements can we expect with him as the line coach?

Doug Heard

TAYLOR: Not much has changed. The Cowboys still use a combination of man-to-man and zone blocking. If there is one difference, it's that the Cowboys use more plays designed to run downhill to take advantage of their size on the offensive line.
• • •

Q: How do you see the competition between offensive tackles Pat McQuistan and Doug Free working out? Is it possible they keep both? Are you of the mind-set that they'll let Marc Colombo go in free agency instead of pay him?

Tommy Hamilton, Arlington

TAYLOR: McQuistan is more versatile because he can play guard, but Free is coming along better at tackle. They both make the team because one of them needs to take over for Colombo next season.
• • •

Q: What is the reason injured players do not travel with the team? I would think the guys should all be together, no matter what.

Erick Jaeger, Cable Wis.

TAYLOR: Sometimes, it makes more sense for a guy to stay in Dallas or training camp and get around-the-clock treatment for his injury. The idea is to get back on the field as quickly as possible. You can't always do that being on the road with the team.
• • •

Q: I haven't heard much about Marcus Dixon. How is he doing?

Rob Daubert

TAYLOR: Dixon has a back injury that has kept him out of practice for a few days. As an undrafted free agent, he needs to get back into the mix as soon as possible.

[Califan007]

You had me going until you said Bartel looked better than Johnson. Give me a break. Bartel is not even just a guy, though he has improved from last season. Johnson will get some work with the first team in practice or during the game this weekend, so the Cowboys can figure out whether they need him to be the No. 2 or No. 3 quarterback.

The second-team line struggled and that played a role in Johnson looking bad. The Cowboys are trying to figure out how much of that is Johnson and how much of it is the second team.
Ok, I'm trying to follow the logic here...

It's laughable to think that Bartel looked better than Johnson...yet the Cowboys are gonna put Johnson with the starters...to "figure out" whether he should be the No. 2 or No. 3 quarterback??..???...


TAYLOR: I have one word in response: whatever. Coach Fran had one of the worst passing offenses in the country, which might be why Bennett is having such a hard time adjusting to the NFL. Maybe, he hasn't had any real coaching about technique since he left high school. You said yourself Coach Fran was hideous. Bennett must not have been too bad since he was drafted in the second round. This is what I call piling on.
This guy must post here in ATN lol :laugh:..."Whatever" lol..."piling on" lol..."he was picked in the 2nd round so he can't be too bad" :laugh: :laugh:....hard to argue against that type of logic lol...

[slogriff]

Ok, I'm trying to follow the logic here...

It's laughable to think that Bartel looked better than Johnson...yet the Cowboys are gonna put Johnson with the starters...to "figure out" whether he should be the No. 2 or No. 3 quarterback??..???...


They want to put Johnson with the starters to figure out whether he can be a productive enough starter if Romo goes down. To determine this they need to have Johnson put in more game time with the #1 OL.

If they don't think he could effectively lead the team as the starter, then they will have to diligently try to bring in someone who can be the #2 QB. Bartel will not be the #2. I doubt they will even carry him as a #3 QB.

[Califan007]

They want to put Johnson with the starters to figure out whether he can be a productive enough starter if Romo goes down. To determine this they need to have Johnson put in more game time with the #1 OL.

If they don't think he could effectively lead the team as the starter, then they will have to diligently try to bring in someone who can be the #2 QB. Bartel will not be the #2. I doubt they will even carry him as a #3 QB.
So if Johnson performs poorly with the starters, they may just cut him loose, and then try and find a #2 elsewhere instead of promoting Bartel?...And they might not keep Bartel, either?

[slogriff]

So if Johnson performs poorly with the starters, they may just cut him loose, and then try and find a #2 elsewhere instead of promoting Bartel?...And they might not keep Bartel, either?

The Boys have big expectations for this year. Everyone wants to talk about what happens if T.O. goes down when the more damaging scenario is what happens if Romo goes down. They need to feel that they have someone who can come in and "manage" the team well enough to still give them a chance at the playoffs and possibly further.

Johnson has two known strikes against him, poor arm strength and immobility. He didn't look great in the 1st pre-season game and many (fans at least) have great concerns in his ability to be that QB. They need to give him more time with the 1st team to reassure themselves they have the right guy.

Johnson will be the #2 but I expect/hope Jerry will cut Bartel (a very raw project) and bring in another vet QB to be the #3 QB and capable of competing with BJ to take over as starter if Romo were to go down. If BJ looks poorly with the 1st team it obviously increases the likelihood of this scenario.

[VCDefectors]

So if Johnson performs poorly with the starters, they may just cut him loose, and then try and find a #2 elsewhere instead of promoting Bartel?...And they might not keep Bartel, either?

At this point, I am not impressed with either one, especially ol' noodle arm Johnson. I agree with the naysayers on this one. If Romo goes down, the Cowboys are screwed.

[Bware_Dware]

Great article TR. Though when you highlighted the Question, you may have wanted to use your expertise at color schemes to highlight the answer, since it pertains to most people here in the ES.

As for Brad Johnson, he will be cut if he still shows he sucks behind the #1 O-line. I think the Cowboys are waiting for a vet to be released to sign him on, Simms comes to mind. I wanted Culpepper until I noticed it seems he wants to compete for the starting role. If he comes to reality, I hope the Cowboys pick him up for a #2 role.

[paloosa]

What is such a big deal about Dallas? According to the media lovefest and the Cowboy faithful, they are loaded with talent in every position and are the odds on favorites for the Super Bowl. Now there are questions about TO and that there isn't any good talent behind him. Behind Romo, Brad Johnson and Bartel aren't good enough to take over if he goes down. Questions about Martellus Bennett and whether or not he is good enough or better than Fasano. Then there are questions about two OLine projects that are there to take over next year for Columbo. Then there is this big praise about Felix Jones, the only bright spot in their only preseason game. So what does all this mean? Nothing but a reality check. The Cowboys aren't as good as everyone says they are.

I can remember that one article (Can't remember when or who wrote it and don't have a link to verify it) said that the Cowboys were the best team in the NFL with the most talent. I am sure if I were to search for it I would be able to find the article and add it as a link. But the point is they have just as many questions as any other team and maybe more. Just because everyone says you are good doesn't mean you are. Having a Hall of Fame Basketball player address your team won't make you play great. And Having your owner place you in a reality TV series called, "Hard Knocks: Training Camp with the Dallas Cowboys" won't make you a better team or make everyone love you. So welcome to reality.

[slogriff]

What is such a big deal about Dallas? According to the media lovefest and the Cowboy faithful, they are loaded with talent in every position and are the odds on favorites for the Super Bowl. Now there are questions about TO and that there isn't any good talent behind him. Behind Romo, Brad Johnson and Bartel aren't good enough to take over if he goes down. Questions about Martellus Bennett and whether or not he is good enough or better than Fasano. Then there are questions about two OLine projects that are there to take over next year for Columbo. Then there is this big praise about Felix Jones, the only bright spot in their only preseason game. So what does all this mean? Nothing but a reality check. The Cowboys aren't as good as everyone says they are.

I can remember that one article (Can't remember when or who wrote it and don't have a link to verify it) said that the Cowboys were the best team in the NFL with the most talent. I am sure if I were to search for it I would be able to find the article and add it as a link. But the point is they have just as many questions as any other team and maybe more. Just because everyone says you are good doesn't mean you are. Having a Hall of Fame Basketball player address your team won't make you play great. And Having your owner place you in a reality TV series called, "Hard Knocks: Training Camp with the Dallas Cowboys" won't make you a better team or make everyone love you. So welcome to reality.

I would say the answer is the questions you mention are all about backups. Unlike most teams, there are very few questions/concerns about the quality of the Cowboys starters.

Every team will have concerns if they begin having injuries. Especially if you expect to have backups that are as good as pro-bowl starters like T.O. or Romo. Just as I would think there would be concerns if Brady or Moss went down for the Pats.

[Terence Newman 41]

So if Johnson performs poorly with the starters, they may just cut him loose, and then try and find a #2 elsewhere instead of promoting Bartel?...And they might not keep Bartel, either?

Believe me man, the logic behind it is as retarded as it sounds. I am with you, it sounds just plain dumb.

I don't think there is a fan out there that thinks Brad Johnson has anything left. His play now is just horrible. Why Jerry and co. want to keep him around for anything more then a 3rd string QB is beyond me.

[tr1]

Great article TR. Though when you highlighted the Question, you may have wanted to use your expertise at color schemes to highlight the answer, since it pertains to most people here in the ES.

When I saw a question that actually takes reality into account, and it comes from a puke fan, it's worthy of highlighting.

My puke fan friends are so much more in touch with reality than any puke fan posters here in ATN. I suspect their more in line with posters on CZ.

[tr1]

I would say the answer is the questions you mention are all about backups. Unlike most teams, there are very few questions/concerns about the quality of the Cowboys starters.


Roy Williams? Nose tackle isn't settled. Henry is adequate, but hardly the answer. On offense, MB has not been a feature back...and he's looked awful in TC.

And that o-line will not repeat that performance of the firs 12 games of last year...ain't gonna happen.

So, go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.

[doncherry]

MB has not been a feature back...and he's looked awful in TC.



Link? Or are you hearing this from your "Puke friends"?

[tr1]

Link? Or are you hearing this from your "Puke friends"?

I read the training camp reports. Give it a try. And, I listen to my puke fan friends.

[slogriff]

Roy Williams? Nose tackle isn't settled. Henry is adequate, but hardly the answer. On offense, MB has not been a feature back...and he's looked awful in TC.

And that o-line will not repeat that performance of the firs 12 games of last year...ain't gonna happen.

So, go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.

You submit an O-line that has played together for two years sending 3 to the PB & 2 other PB players as concerns.

Thanks for reaffirming my point.

Have you seen MB look awful or are you still hearing those voices?

[tr1]

You submit an O-line that has played together for two years sending 3 to the PB & 2 other PB players as concerns.

Thanks for reaffirming my point.

Have you seen MB look awful or are you still hearing those voices?

It will be so much fun when the pukes are 9-7 or worse, and I revive these threads. :laugh:

You may not have noticed, but that o-line was awful at the end of last year...well after PB voting.

[slogriff]

I read the training camp reports. Give it a try. And, I listen to my puke fan friends.

Im not sure which I believe less---the existence of reports saying MB has looked awful or you actually having Cowboy friends (brothers excluded).

You hearing imaginary Boys fans seems the most likely. I too had imaginary friends. They moved away when I was about 4 yrs old.

[Terence Newman 41]

Im not sure which I believe less---the existence of reports saying MB has looked awful or you actually having Cowboy friends (brothers excluded).

You hearing imaginary Boys fans seems the most likely. I too had imaginary friends. They moved away when I was about 4 yrs old.

I think he is referring to the few balls Barber fumbled and got stuffed in the hole by Ratty.

But I guess that some how accumulates that Barber is having a bad camp some how.

Why not ask, Tearrius George how Barber is doing.

[tr1]

I think he is referring to the few balls Barber fumbled and got stuffed in the hole by Ratty.

But I guess that some how accumulates that Barber is having a bad camp some how.

Why not ask, Tearrius George how Barber is doing.


TNew, you started this post so well...and then you brought up Tearrius George!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Tearrius George!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Westbrook36]

Sounds like this TE who they took over many good WR prospects in the 2nd round is going to turn out to be a grade A bust.

[tml6157]

Sounds like this TE who they took over many good WR prospects in the 2nd round is going to turn out to be a grade A bust.

Wow Westy and I agree, its a miracle. :laugh:

But he is right. All the things I heard about Bennett is that he has been having a not so good camp. Thats what you get when your as smart as Jerrah! :laugh:

[tml6157]

You submit an O-line that has played together for two years sending 3 to the PB & 2 other PB players as concerns.

Thanks for reaffirming my point.

Have you seen MB look awful or are you still hearing those voices?

OL has to be the worse position for PB overratedness. How many people who aren't diehard fans vote. Do they actually take into account who is dominating at OL during the season. No. They look at the ballot and say "Oh the Cowboys I heard of them before so lets pick a T, G and C from their team because I don't know anyone famous who plays that spot"

[TEK2000]

If our 2nd round TE is the only player that turns out to be a bust... then we had one hell of a good draft!!!

[Westbrook36]

If our 2nd round TE is the only player that turns out to be a bust... then we had one hell of a good draft!!!

Who says he'd be the only one? All we stated was that early evidence doesn't look so good. The jury is still out on the rest of your draft class.

[tml6157]

If our 2nd round TE is the only player that turns out to be a bust... then we had one hell of a good draft!!!

your second round TE should be the least of your worries.

[tml6157]

Who says he'd be the only one? All we stated was that early evidence doesn't look so good. The jury is still out on the rest of your draft class.

the jury is out for basically anyone who isnt a starter for the cowboys

[TEK2000]

Who says he'd be the only one? All we stated was that early evidence doesn't look so good. The jury is still out on the rest of your draft class.

Nobody said he'd be the only one.. I said IF he's the only one, then we had a good draft.

[doncherry]

I read the training camp reports. Give it a try. And, I listen to my puke fan friends.

Sure thing, why don't you do your thing where you post these apparent reports and highlight the relevant passage. I would really look forward to reading these training camp reports. I've been reading quite a few and have yet to read anything close to reporting that MB is having a poor camp.

[slogriff]

OL has to be the worse position for PB overratedness. How many people who aren't diehard fans vote. Do they actually take into account who is dominating at OL during the season. No. They look at the ballot and say "Oh the Cowboys I heard of them before so lets pick a T, G and C from their team because I don't know anyone famous who plays that spot"

I guess being the driving force behind the #3 best offense in yardage or #2 scoring offense had nothing to do with their being selected.:)

I think it was probably just people not knowing who to vote for and liked the Cowboys' uniforms.

[Bware_Dware]

I read the training camp reports. Give it a try. And, I listen to my puke fan friends.

Your "friends" been at all the training camps watching this unfold with MBIII or are they reading it as well?

[Bware_Dware]

Who says he'd be the only one? All we stated was that early evidence doesn't look so good. The jury is still out on the rest of your draft class.

The Jury is out on EVERY SINGLE ROOKIE this year.... geez people It's been 1 pre-season game and 1 TC for these Rookies and we are already declaring BUSTS? WOW! I have a feeling with this hidden talent some of you have for analyzing talent in the NFL, you may be getting serious phone calls from teams to join their scouting dept! :doh: :doh: :doh:

Get a grip. Give it 2-3 years. Then we will talk about this years draft class.

[tr1]

The Jury is out on EVERY SINGLE ROOKIE this year.... geez people It's been 1 pre-season game and 1 TC for these Rookies and we are already declaring BUSTS? WOW! I have a feeling with this hidden talent some of you have for analyzing talent in the NFL, you may be getting serious phone calls from teams to join their scouting dept! :doh: :doh: :doh:

Get a grip. Give it 2-3 years. Then we will talk about this years draft class.

Oh, I hope you carry this guy like you've been carrying Carpenter. Nothing like a wasted spot.

[Bware_Dware]

Oh, I hope you carry this guy like you've been carrying Carpenter. Nothing like a wasted spot.

Yup, ill put him right up on my shoulders and show him all the support he needs.... after all, he is only a rookie. again, we'll see how he turns out in 2-3 years.

[HeHateMe]

I read the training camp reports. Give it a try. And, I listen to my puke fan friends.

Please share these camp reports with the rest of the Dallas fan base, which you are a huge part of I might add.

[tr1]

Please share these camp reports with the rest of the Dallas fan base, which you are a huge part of I might add.

Oh, I get it.... :rolleyes:

You should pay attention. I've been sharing. You just fail to absorb.

[ArmchairRedskin]

Bennett looks like he's got a bad case of the lazies. He looks like he's headed in the wrong direction going by what Hard Knocks showed of him.

[HeHateMe]

Oh, I get it.... :rolleyes:

You should pay attention. I've been sharing. You just fail to absorb.

Yes, you have been sharing, and I thank you.

I just can't find the ones that are reporting MBIII is having an awful camp.

Know where they are?

[HeHateMe]

Bennett looks like he's got a bad case of the lazies. He looks like he's headed in the wrong direction going by what Hard Knocks showed of him.

It's times like that, where I miss Parcells the most.

I would've LOVED to see what Parcells would do to this kid based upon what he's shown so far.

[ArmchairRedskin]

It's times like that, where I miss Parcells the most.

I would've LOVED to see what Parcells would do to this kid based upon what he's shown so far.



You would think a rookie would be more willing to please. I mean, it's not like he showed up on gameday either, so he's really got no room to dismiss coaching. You see how long it took him to put on his helmet after being told? Like a little kid.

[bubba9497]

Parcell's wouldn't have drafted Bennett

[ArmchairRedskin]

Parcell's wouldn't have drafted Bennett



Bubba, you see that 90 year old Garrett talking up his receiver? "Who cares if you look like the worst football player ever? You're a great athlete!" That was pretty hilarious. I can only imagine that JJ will turn into that guy later on.

[tml6157]

Oh, I hope you carry this guy like you've been carrying Carpenter. Nothing like a wasted spot.

And Fasano :laugh:

[tml6157]

The Jury is out on EVERY SINGLE ROOKIE this year.... geez people It's been 1 pre-season game and 1 TC for these Rookies and we are already declaring BUSTS? WOW! I have a feeling with this hidden talent some of you have for analyzing talent in the NFL, you may be getting serious phone calls from teams to join their scouting dept! :doh: :doh: :doh:

Get a grip. Give it 2-3 years. Then we will talk about this years draft class.

Get real you are the first one to rip someone when they show an ounce of anything besides all pro tendencies no matter what team they are on.

[Bware_Dware]

Get real you are the first one to rip someone when they show an ounce of anything besides all pro tendencies no matter what team they are on.

Please explain, I am curious for this comment. Or are you pulling this out of your ass?

[Bware_Dware]

You would think a rookie would be more willing to please. I mean, it's not like he showed up on gameday either, so he's really got no room to dismiss coaching. You see how long it took him to put on his helmet after being told? Like a little kid.

I thought the same thing, the kid pretty much has the best opportunity for a TE in the NFL. He gets to slowly come along and learn from arguably the best TE in football. I really think the transition from college to pro is taking its toll mentally and physically on this kid. The system ran at A&M was probably very very basic. I think reality is setting in on him of how much time you not only have to practice that, and then after the physical portion, he now has to study for multiple hours per day, something im pretty sure he has never had to do before. It's obvious the athletic ability he has, and that is why Jerry and Wade and John have worked with him so much, to get past his immaturity and dig into that potential. I think it's going to come down to a serious talk from a vet or from JJ himself to make him realize the opportunity that is in front of him.

[Bware_Dware]

Yes, you have been sharing, and I thank you.

I just can't find the ones that are reporting MBIII is having an awful camp.

Know where they are?

You will be waiting for a while....

[ArmchairRedskin]

I thought the same thing, the kid pretty much has the best opportunity for a TE in the NFL. He gets to slowly come along and learn from arguably the best TE in football. I really think the transition from college to pro is taking its toll mentally and physically on this kid. The system ran at A&M was probably very very basic. I think reality is setting in on him of how much time you not only have to practice that, and then after the physical portion, he now has to study for multiple hours per day, something im pretty sure he has never had to do before. It's obvious the athletic ability he has, and that is why Jerry and Wade and John have worked with him so much, to get past his immaturity and dig into that potential. I think it's going to come down to a serious talk from a vet or from JJ himself to make him realize the opportunity that is in front of him.



What, you don't think Magic Johnson got thru to him? :laugh:

[HeHateMe]

You would think a rookie would be more willing to please. I mean, it's not like he showed up on gameday either, so he's really got no room to dismiss coaching. You see how long it took him to put on his helmet after being told? Like a little kid.

I would've sent him right home. Complete baby who has never been told what to do.

Needs a major league wakeup call.

[HeHateMe]

You will be waiting for a while....

Still waiting....

[tr1]

You will be waiting for a while....

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Typical.

MB has been stuffed regularly at the LOS.

Try to read some of the TC articles. I've been quite diligent in posting them.

:laugh:

[tr1]

Still waiting....

Take a look at what Terrance Newman, a regular puke fan poster, posted earlier in this thread.

You can do that, can't you?

:laugh:

[tr1]

BTW, I'm in Estes Park, CO, and the local Denver stations are laughing out loud at your 'circus.'

It's really funny.

[HeHateMe]

BTW, I'm in Estes Park, CO, and the local Denver stations are laughing out loud at your 'circus.'

It's really funny.

Oh man! They are? We're doomed!

[HeHateMe]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Typical.

MB has been stuffed regularly at the LOS.

Try to read some of the TC articles. I've been quite diligent in posting them.

:laugh:

I've read all the DC Training Camp articles you've posted.

Still havent found a one that says MB3 is having an awful camp.

[tr1]

I've read all the DC Training Camp articles you've posted.

Still havent found a one that says MB3 is having an awful camp.
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[tml6157]

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Wow is that HeHateMe himself?

[HeHateMe]

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I think below is a good definition of "owned".

Courtesy of 3 writers who have been assigned to report on anything and everything at Cowboys camp. See DallasCowboys.com


WILLIAM MARSHALL, PERRY, GA: I haven't read much about Marion Barber and his progress during training camp. He is our feature back, and often times it comes off like he is being overlooked. How is he doing?

Rob: No one's overlooking The Barbarian. He's had a great camp and maintains a strong work ethic; on those one-practice days in Oxnard, he hit the field two hours early for some one-on-one conditioning work with Cowboys strength coach Joe Juraszek. If Felix Jones and Tashard Choice can be as productive behind Barber as they were against San Diego, the Cowboys' running game should be much improved from last season.

Mickey: Who is he being overlooked by, the media? That is not an indication of what the team thinks of their feature back. Barber is doing just fine, as evidenced in that first preseason game. And remember, since he is highly reluctant to do interviews, it's pretty hard to hear much about him.

Nick: guess that means he's arrived. The same thing was said about Tony Romo and DeMarcus Ware, too. Barber has looked fine. The thing about practice is that you're not going to get the full effect on Barber because of the way he runs. It doesn't show up until the games. So it's hard to say how great Barber looked in practice because he was just running plays. In the games, he'll run over the defenders, stiff-arm others to the ground and pick up tough yards that didn't seem there. That's when we can see him in full force.

[bubba9497]

here's a link to many articles backing up tr1


all you have to do is read them

Poke training camp articles press here (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=81)

[bubba9497]

What, you don't think Magic Johnson got thru to him? :laugh:

about what HIV/Aids prevention?

[Bware_Dware]

about what HIV/Aids prevention?

classy.

[tml6157]

I think below is a good definition of "owned".

Courtesy of 3 writers who have been assigned to report on anything and everything at Cowboys camp. See DallasCowboys.com


WILLIAM MARSHALL, PERRY, GA: I haven't read much about Marion Barber and his progress during training camp. He is our feature back, and often times it comes off like he is being overlooked. How is he doing?

Rob: No one's overlooking The Barbarian. He's had a great camp and maintains a strong work ethic; on those one-practice days in Oxnard, he hit the field two hours early for some one-on-one conditioning work with Cowboys strength coach Joe Juraszek. If Felix Jones and Tashard Choice can be as productive behind Barber as they were against San Diego, the Cowboys' running game should be much improved from last season.

Mickey: Who is he being overlooked by, the media? That is not an indication of what the team thinks of their feature back. Barber is doing just fine, as evidenced in that first preseason game. And remember, since he is highly reluctant to do interviews, it's pretty hard to hear much about him.

Nick: guess that means he's arrived. The same thing was said about Tony Romo and DeMarcus Ware, too. Barber has looked fine. The thing about practice is that you're not going to get the full effect on Barber because of the way he runs. It doesn't show up until the games. So it's hard to say how great Barber looked in practice because he was just running plays. In the games, he'll run over the defenders, stiff-arm others to the ground and pick up tough yards that didn't seem there. That's when we can see him in full force.

Check out the bold....its a Cowboys writer trying to make excuses as to why he doesnt look that good in practice. You are right it is total ownage.....of yourself :laugh:

[bubba9497]

Check out the bold....its a Cowboys writer trying to make excuses as to why he doesnt look that good in practice. You are right it is total ownage.....of yourself :laugh:



:laugh:


HHM just got :owned:

[tml6157]

yeah its pretty much expected of the puke fans around here to be owned on a constant daily basis :laugh:

[HeHateMe]

"The thing about practice is that you're not going to get the full effect on Barber because of the way he runs. It doesn't show up until the games. So it's hard to say how great Barber looked in practice because he was just running plays. "


Amazing how you equate that to having an "awful" camp, as tr1 has said. Wow, you're just as, well, does it even need to be said?

Back in line clone.

[HeHateMe]

:laugh:


HHM just got :owned:

Bubba, come on man, now I expect better than you. Now I know I riled you up so easily in the other thread, but man, you're not serious are you? :laugh:

[HeHateMe]

here's a link to many articles backing up tr1


all you have to do is read them

Poke training camp articles press here (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=81)

Nope, still havent found a single one reporting how awful MB3 has been this camp.

[tml6157]

"The thing about practice is that you're not going to get the full effect on Barber because of the way he runs. It doesn't show up until the games. So it's hard to say how great Barber looked in practice because he was just running plays. "


Amazing how you equate that to having an "awful" camp, as tr1 has said. Wow, you're just as, well, does it even need to be said?

Back in line clone.

You do you equat that as to having a good camp. Can you read between the lines?

The thing about practice is that you're not going to get the full effect on Barber because of the way he runs. = He hasn't looked that good in camp but im going to say thats because he doesnt look as good as he should.

It doesn't show up until the games = it hasn't shown up in camp

So it's hard to say how great Barber looked in practice because he was just running plays = he isnt looking that good, no one is sure why he isnt looking good.

[tml6157]

Bubba, come on man, now I expect better than you. Now I know I riled you up so easily in the other thread, but man, you're not serious are you? :laugh:

yeah im pretty sure you did.....at my behalf.....your welcome :laugh:

[tml6157]

Nope, still havent found a single one reporting how awful MB3 has been this camp.

How about the quote you keep ignoring?

"The thing about practice is that you're not going to get the full effect on Barber because of the way he runs. It doesn't show up until the games. So it's hard to say how great Barber looked in practice because he was just running plays. "

There is no other way to read this then that he hasn't looked as good as expected so far in camp

[bubba9497]

Now I know I riled you up so easily in the other thread, but man, you're not serious are you?


:rolleyes: more poke fan illusions of grander




btw, you got :owned: :laugh:

[tml6157]

:rolleyes: more poke fan illusions of grander




btw, you got :owned: :laugh:

poor HHM haha :laugh:

[bubba9497]

There is no other way to read this then that he hasn't looked as good as expected so far in camp


he knows, he knows but as per usual for a poke fan

if you ignore it, it will magically disappear :laugh:



and they can't understand why I keep posting the "no evil monkeys" pic after their posts

[tml6157]

he knows, he knows but as per usual for a poke fan

if you ignore it, it will magically disappear :laugh:



and they can't understand why I keep posting the "no evil monkeys" pic after their posts

hahahahaha thanks for explaining that to me

[Ken]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Typical.

MB has been stuffed regularly at the LOS.

Try to read some of the TC articles. I've been quite diligent in posting them.

:laugh:
Typical Skins fan...

Bashing on a guy when he is averaging 5 yards a carry in the preseason...

:doh:

[tml6157]

Typical Skins fan...

Bashing on a guy when he is averaging 5 yards a carry in the preseason...

:doh:

no one was bashing him, its just you puke fans are all the same, someone reports Barber hasnt looked amazing in camp and you discredit it no matter what because it goes against the Cowboys>God mentality

[Bacon]

After last night, this thread's title has become extremely amusing.

[brandymac27]

After last night, this thread's title has become extremely amusing.


:munchout: This is gonna get good soon.

[Bacon]

:munchout: This is gonna get good soon.

In two weeks, the DMN article will read "Don't panic Dallas Cowboys fans; it's only preseason".

[D'KanSkinFan]

In two weeks, the DMN article will read "Don't panic Dallas Cowboys fans; it's only preseason".

There is ALWAYS an excuse for Dallas, now isn't there ;)

Granted, it is "just preseason"~ :silly:

[HeHateMe]

You do you equat that as to having a good camp. Can you read between the lines?

The thing about practice is that you're not going to get the full effect on Barber because of the way he runs. = He hasn't looked that good in camp but im going to say thats because he doesnt look as good as he should.

It doesn't show up until the games = it hasn't shown up in camp

So it's hard to say how great Barber looked in practice because he was just running plays = he isnt looking that good, no one is sure why he isnt looking good.

Convince yourself of that? Good for you.

[HeHateMe]

:rolleyes: more poke fan illusions of grander




btw, you got :owned: :laugh:

Really? :doh:

[HeHateMe]

How about the quote you keep ignoring?

"The thing about practice is that you're not going to get the full effect on Barber because of the way he runs. It doesn't show up until the games. So it's hard to say how great Barber looked in practice because he was just running plays. "

There is no other way to read this then that he hasn't looked as good as expected so far in camp

Getting frustrated I'm ignoring you sad attempts?

Can't really get up for this one. Sorry, you're just completely off the mark.

Continue your back and forth with Bubba, it'll keep you going.

[tml6157]

Getting frustrated I'm ignoring you sad attempts?

Can't really get up for this one. Sorry, you're just completely off the mark.

Continue your back and forth with Bubba, it'll keep you going.

Nope im not frustrated. Its looking bad on your part because add nothing to this conversation but making a fool out of yourself. Way to go buddy! :thumbsup:

[tr1]

Roy Williams? Nose tackle isn't settled. Henry is adequate, but hardly the answer. On offense, MB has not been a feature back...and he's looked awful in TC.

And that o-line will not repeat that performance of the firs 12 games of last year...ain't gonna happen.

So, go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.

Link? Or are you hearing this from your "Puke friends"?

I read the training camp reports. Give it a try. And, I listen to my puke fan friends.

You submit an O-line that has played together for two years sending 3 to the PB & 2 other PB players as concerns.

Thanks for reaffirming my point.

Have you seen MB look awful or are you still hearing those voices?

It will be so much fun when the pukes are 9-7 or worse, and I revive these threads. :laugh:

You may not have noticed, but that o-line was awful at the end of last year...well after PB voting.

I think he is referring to the few balls Barber fumbled and got stuffed in the hole by Ratty.

But I guess that some how accumulates that Barber is having a bad camp some how.

Why not ask, Tearrius George how Barber is doing.


Bumped...because I said I would.

Well, well, well....

I guess I was the first to notice that Barber is a fumbler...and that the offensive line would miss Sparano much more than any puke fan could imagine.

Memory lane can be fun.

:rotflmao: