Vegas 2-0 on Skins so far....Skins favored by 3 over the Cards.

[McD5]

Early, 3 point favorites this week.

[Fede]

Home game right? So they are just hedging their bet right now as you get +3 for home field advantage.

[Ray Brown]

yeah its a home game. 3 points is average for Home field advantage i'm pretty sure. this spread probably stays the same throughout the week.

[dfitzo53]

People are just as likely to bet on Arizona as they are on us, given Arizona's record. I agree that this spread isn't likely to go anywhere.

[FunBunch7]

Arizona = New Orleans...but AZ doesn't have Reggie Bush to contend with.

Don't be fooled by Arizona's fast start...people her ein Phoenix are tlaking NFC Championship with this team...yeah right...

Warner is a turn over MACHINE!!!! We'll get 2 picks and if we curse at him loud enough he'll fumble the ball too!

[phishisthegreatstuff]

Arizona is pretty similar to the Saints. They have a good passing game but avg run game. Their Defense is about the same also.

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

We had a close game last year. This is going to be a close one to bet on for me.

[Ray Brown]

Arizona is pretty similar to the Saints. They have a good passing game but avg run game. Their Defense is about the same also.

I'm not worried about their running game. I think edge has had 100 yds each game but against awful defenses. The passing game worries me, big time. We MUST have pressure on Kurt Warner all day so those recivers don't have time to get open. Also their defense is better than the Saints. They have 2 good safties and quick LBs. Also they run a 3-4, and if you remember we struggled against the only 3-4 we've seen so far, the Jets.

[TheDoyler23]

That's a home team bounce.

[HawaiianTime]

Arizona = New Orleans...but AZ doesn't have Reggie Bush to contend with.

Don't be fooled by Arizona's fast start...people her ein Phoenix are tlaking NFC Championship with this team...yeah right...

Warner is a turn over MACHINE!!!! We'll get 2 picks and if we curse at him loud enough he'll fumble the ball too!


Sorry, but maybe you should look at the replays as many of those fumbles were caused by an inexperience/hurt line. This year they are definitely a lot better. They been protecting Kurt better and they have a big back in Hightower. Our D needs to be at the top of their game as Boldin wants to have a stellar year since he isn't planning on re-signing with the Cards. The Cards have a very balanced attack, not something to just blow off, especially after a win.

[illone]

Hopefully the public will be all over the AZ Cinderellas getting points and bet the line down so I can pounce on a 2 or 1 number.

The cards are a different team on the road;).

[DallasBlowsBig]

Does anyone know how AZ O-line compares to the Saints O-line ?? that's probably going to be a huge factor in this game.

[RalphZero]

Hopefully the public will be all over the AZ Cinderellas getting points and bet the line down so I can pounce on a 2 or 1 number.

The cards are a different team on the road;).

I assume you actually do live in Arizona. That is the best place to bet against the Cardinals. Plenty of homers betting on the lacal team drives the number up.

In Arizona, it Redskins -1. In Wash DC, it will be the Redskins -4.5.

What would be nice to get the Redskins -1 in Arizona and get the Cards -4.5 in DC. Hoping the Redskins win by 3. You win both.

[RalphZero]

The Over/Under is 42.

I am taking the Cards +3 and the Over.

Final score will be:

Cardinals 27
Redskins 20

[PiLfan]

Arizona = New Orleans...but AZ doesn't have Reggie Bush to contend with.

Don't be fooled by Arizona's fast start...people her ein Phoenix are tlaking NFC Championship with this team...yeah right...

Warner is a turn over MACHINE!!!! We'll get 2 picks and if we curse at him loud enough he'll fumble the ball too!


All the same, if not for a missed FG Warner would've beaten us last year with one arm.

He's healthy this time. This will be no cake walk. And with the Cowboys and Eagles coming up, it almost smells like a trap game.

Proceed with caution.

[RalphZero]

All the same, if not for a missed FG Warner would've beaten us last year with one arm.

He's healthy this time. This will be no cake walk. And with the Cowboys and Eagles coming up, it almost smells like a trap game.

Proceed with caution.

Good point. Two factors: 1) The Redskins are coming off a nice win in their home opener after a road loss to a good team and 10 days rest. I am interested to see how Zorn and the Redskins get emotionally and mentally prepared for a game when everyone's patting them on the back. And 2) the Redskins have a big division Road game on the following week. They might be looking past the Cardinals to the Cowboys.

[ouvan59]

All the same, if not for a missed FG Warner would've beaten us last year with one arm.

He's healthy this time. This will be no cake walk. And with the Cowboys and Eagles coming up, it almost smells like a trap game.

Proceed with caution.

There were a lot of ifs and buts in that game and they all went for the Cardinals except for the missed FG, a 55-yarder I might add. We were up 21-6 until Joe Gibbs went into run, run, pass, punt mode and let them back in it. And then they needed an onside kick recovery to even have a shot at the 55 yarder. So let's not pretend that it was a back and forth affair where we just had the last break. We were winning the game by a sizable margin most of the game and let them back in it by turtling.

I do agree that this won't be an easy matchup. We should be able to contain their running game but they obviously have some serious firepower at receiver. Their defense is coming on as well.

[Cooley4President]

I don't bet on the Skins, but if the over/under is 42, I'll take the over.

[NattyLight]

This game has pass written all over it to me, slight lean to the over. If the secondary can be as focused as it was against NO, the Skins have a chance to win this game. If the defense line can bring a moderate of pressure and continue to get their hands up, the Skins have a chance to win this game. If the offense plays pretty much exactly like it did against the Saints, they have a chance to win this game.

That's a couple of if's right there, I am not confident, but not doubtful either.

[kleese]

It's a pretty 50-50 game and I think the spread reflects that.

I picked the Cards to win the West this year, and right now, they'd have to REALLY mess things up to not do that. The 49ers and Rams stink and I think the Seahawks have 7-9 (at best) written all over them.

It won't take a herculian effort from AZ to get it done this year-- 9-7 should do the trick.

Warner totally stabalizes that offense. I have doubts about their running game, but their tremendous passing game helps offset that.

Defensively, the Cards are better than people think-- although, they certainly aren't great. They have a VERY strong secondary.

Getting a win this week won't be easy, but it would be nice because I think we're on par with teams like the Saints and Cardinals-- and I'd like to be 2-0 against those types of teams.

[NattyLight]

I have doubts about their running game.

Doubts? That's a little modest kleese. They have no running game. That's why out secondary has to play like last sunday.

[kwitt]

Hopefully the public will be all over the AZ Cinderellas getting points and bet the line down so I can pounce on a 2 or 1 number.

The cards are a different team on the road;).

Not happening. The public is actually on the Skins 53% right now. Besides, is takes a LOT of money coming in to move that line off of 3.

[bnewbs]

How's the Cards O-line? If we can get as much d line pressure on Warner as we had on Brees we can do good. Springs/Smoot on Boldin and Rogers with Landry help on Fitzgerald could be nice.

[Godfather151981]

Home game right? So they are just hedging their bet right now as you get +3 for home field advantage.

Yeah but I think that the +3 is figured into that point spread when it's published. So what they're saying is that if the game was in Arizona it would be a "pick 'em" in favor of the Skins.

Not that it really matters because Arizona has next-to-no homefield advantage to begin with. I was out there for business in April, and I saw no Cardinals or D-Backs stuff in the stores. The only home team that was represented well was the Suns. It's well known that the Skins enjoy a "home away from home" atmosphere each time they travel to Arizona, as do a lot of other teams. I think the Steelers played there last year and at one point the Cardinals had to go to a silent snap count because the Steeler fans were making so much noise. We might get our share of out-of-towners at FedEx as well, but the Redskins have never had to resort to that!

[[[ghost]]]

They're just as good a team as the Saints. Two ELITE WRs, a quality QB, and a Secondary which won't include rookies and 4th stringers like last week.

More than anything else, our lines have to play well, and we have to give our offense good field position. Turnovers and Portis need to be crucial.

[chaught76]

This is going to be a brutal game.

Some discussion points about the match-up that I see are:

1) Phoenix has yet to play against a team with an above average offense or a good defense. They are 2-0 and I'm not trying to take anything away from that, but they beat a 49ers team where their primary worries were stopping Gore and Davis and they beat Miami (who has done what exactly)? Granted, SF defense is pretty good, but spotty at best with its talent on defense.

2) Washington needs to pressure and hit Warner. There is no way Springs and Rogers can hang with Fitz and Boldin. That is just a fact. But there are 2 sides to every coin, so we attack the other side; which is destroy Warner. The less personnel we need to generate pressure, the more effective we can be in our coverage packages. I expect to see a notable amount of blitzing.

2b) We need to effectively stop the run with only our front 4 and 2 LBs. If we can do this, we can negate their strength which is their passing game. Make no mistake about, they are a very balanced offense and their line is much improved since last we met, but their strength still lies in the passing game.

3) Attack the left side of the D-line (avoid Dockett and Dansby). If we can establish the run to the right, it will open up alot we can do on offense.

4) Continue to spread the field. We can't afford to play a base offense against the Cards. Adrian Wilson will walk up into the box and kill our run game and short to medium pass game. If we get the notion to try something like this, it better be a 2 TE set.

Just my :2cents:. Here is a healthy game for both teams.

:helmet:HTTR!:logo:

Peace.

[REDSKINS3000]

This is going to be a brutal game.

Some discussion points about the match-up that I see are:

1) Phoenix has yet to play against a team with an above average offense or a good defense. They are 2-0 and I'm not trying to take anything away from that, but they beat a 49ers team where their primary worries were stopping Gore and Davis and they beat Miami (who has done what exactly)? Granted, SF defense is pretty good, but spotty at best with its talent on defense.

2) Washington needs to pressure and hit Warner. There is no way Springs and Rogers can hang with Fitz and Boldin. That is just a fact. But there are 2 sides to every coin, so we attack the other side; which is destroy Warner. The less personnel we need to generate pressure, the more effective we can be in our coverage packages. I expect to see a notable amount of blitzing.

2b) We need to effectively stop the run with only our front 4 and 2 LBs. If we can do this, we can negate their strength which is their passing game. Make no mistake about, they are a very balanced offense and their line is much improved since last we met, but their strength still lies in the passing game.

3) Attack the left side of the D-line (avoid Dockett and Dansby). If we can establish the run to the right, it will open up alot we can do on offense.

4) Continue to spread the field. We can't afford to play a base offense against the Cards. Adrian Wilson will walk up into the box and kill our run game and short to medium pass game. If we get the notion to try something like this, it better be a 2 TE set.

Just my :2cents:. Here is a healthy game for both teams.

:helmet:HTTR!:logo:

Peace.

Great assessment...:applause:

[SavannahP]

Hopefully vegas will right this week and be very wrong next week .... they have us as 10.5 underdogs in dallas