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jpyaks3
September-22nd-2008, 04:50 PM
By BEN SMITH | 9/22/08 3:58 PM EDT

Sen. John McCain’s top campaign aides convened a conference call today to complain of being called “liars.” They pressed the media to scrutinize specific elements of Sen. Barack Obama’s record.

But the call was so rife with simple, often inexplicable misstatements of fact that it may have had the opposite effect: to deepen the perception, dangerous to McCain, that he and his aides have little regard for factual accuracy.

The errors in McCain strategist Steve Schmidt’s charges against Obama and Sen. Joe Biden were particularly notable because they seemed unnecessary. Schmidt repeatedly gilded the lily: He exaggerated the Biden family's already problematic ties to the credit card industry; Obama’s embarrassing relationship with a 1960s radical; and an Obama supporter’s over-the-top attack on Sarah Palin when — in each case — the truth would have been damaging enough.

“Any time the Obama campaign is criticized at any level, the critics are immediately derided as liars,” Schmidt told reporters.

But as he went on to list a series of stories he thought reporters should be writing about Obama and Biden, in almost every instance he got the details wrong.

Schmidt criticized the press for the relatively sparse coverage of the fact that one of Biden’s sons, Hunter, is a registered federal lobbyist.

“His son is a lobbyist for the credit card and banking industry,” Schmidt said.

But Hunter Biden’s lobbying clients don’t include any banks or credit card companies. He did work, as a vice president and then as a consultant, for MBNA, a Delaware-based bank and credit card giant to which Biden had close ties. But he does not appear to have lobbied for the firm.

“Steve Schmidt lied — or just got it flat wrong," said Biden spokesman David Wade. "Hunter Biden has never — never — been a lobbyist for the credit card or banking industry."

Schmidt attacked Obama for his ties to William Ayers, who has spoken of his role in 1960s anti-war bombings committed by the Weather Underground.

"What we know for sure, and is beyond debate and argumentation is this: Senator Obama said that William Ayers is a guy that lives in his neighborhood. We know that that is a disingenuous and untruthful answer,” Schmidt said.

“Senator Obama began his political career in its early stages raising money at Ayers’ house,” he said.

Obama did hold a 1995 campaign event at Ayers’ house. It was not, however, a fundraiser, and Ayers did not contribute money to Obama’s first campaign, according to Illinois records.

Schmidt also complained of Obama backers’ attacks on McCain’s running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

“As soon as Gov. Palin was nominated, one of … Obama’s chief campaign surrogates, [Florida Rep.] Robert Wexler, went out and accused her of being a Nazi sympathizer,” Schmidt said. “Where is the outrage to that aspersion on the part of some of the biggest newspapers in the country?”

But Wexler didn’t call Palin a Nazi sympathizer. He called former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan a Nazi sympathizer, and attacked Palin for allegedly having endorsed him.

“John McCain's decision to select a vice presidential running mate that endorsed Pat Buchanan for president in 2000 is a direct affront to all Jewish Americans. Pat Buchanan is a Nazi sympathizer with a uniquely atrocious record on Israel,” Wexler said.

(Wexler was apparently wrong: Though Buchanan claimed that Palin had supported him, she said she backed Steve Forbes in 1996 and 2000, and no evidence has emerged to the contrary.)

Asked about the series of errors, McCain aides could not provide evidence to back up Schmidt’s assertions.

One McCain aide, Michael Goldfarb, said Politico was “quibbling with ridiculously small details when the basic things are completely right.”

Another, Brian Rogers, responded more directly:

“You are in the tank,” he e-mailed.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13747.html

I don't know what the hell the McCain camp was thinking, to call a press conference to push back on Obama's assertion that they are lying and then turning around stretching the truth in that very press conference can not help their cause. I honestly think things like this is why the media seems to be turning against the McCain camp, complaining about being called a liar then lying in that very press conference is a good way to turn people against you.

Burgold
September-22nd-2008, 05:11 PM
"Why won't anyone believe my lies anymore! It's unfair. I will continue to lie until I find something that will stick. I'm John McCain and I approve this strategy."

Honestly, is it the whiniest thing you've ever heard that they are complaining about being called out on their lies and then whining that they're being picked on because their accusations were found not to be true.

Yusuf06
September-22nd-2008, 05:26 PM
...complaining about being called a liar then lying in that very press conference is a good way to turn people against you.
This was precisely the type of thing that was brought up in the articles I posted in my thread last week, i.e. they lie and when caught in the lies respond by continuing to repeat them. At least they're consistent.

I could do without the whining routine though.

mjah
September-22nd-2008, 07:53 PM
Is anyone else reminded of that old Mormon musical PSA that used to air on Saturday morning cartoons?

"When you tell one lie, it leads to another..."

Burgold
September-23rd-2008, 05:17 AM
I don't think the title is completely accurate. An error implies a mistake. These guys aren't making mistakes. They are intentionally lying.

Not the OP's fault, but I just wanted to point it out.

I really did have a better opinion of McCain once. He is not the person I thought he was or he has lost total control of his campaign.

Smoot Point Really
September-23rd-2008, 06:24 AM
Isn't this a rip-off of a Ben Smith article? Maybe I'm wrong... Anyway, if it is then it should be cited.

OK, as for the "lying" that has been done...

First... What "Campaign Event" isn't done with the notion that you will "raise money"...

Second... Obama has lied (or tried hiding the truth) about his relationship with William Ayers.

Third... The only McCain Ad that is questionable was his Spanish Ad... No matter what Obama says he believed the Sex Ed bill was about, I firmly believe that if the bill was only about predators and touching that it would've sailed through without opposition and become law instead of getting killed after Obama supported it.

ccsl2
September-23rd-2008, 06:33 AM
Sniff Sniff...I smell desperation.

Peeping Wizard
September-23rd-2008, 08:15 AM
Sniff Sniff...I smell desperation.

If anybody is desperate it is Obama. By all accounts the annointed one should be blasting McCain in the polls and it just isn't happening. More people are waking up to the fact that he does not stand for anything remotely resembling change, just more of the same.

Destino
September-23rd-2008, 08:54 AM
If anybody is desperate it is Obama. By all accounts the annointed one should be blasting McCain in the polls and it just isn't happening. More people are waking up to the fact that he does not stand for anything remotely resembling change, just more of the same.

Most of us realize McCain is a worthy opponent and understand that unless something big happens this race will be close. Feel free to continue acting like pathetic little highschool emos with lines like "the annointed one" to write off the fact that Obama is much more popular than you'd like. I would be bitter too if my candidate could draw a crowd large enough to fill a 7-11 while the other is filling stadiums.

Tulane Skins Fan
September-23rd-2008, 08:55 AM
If anybody is desperate it is Obama. By all accounts the annointed one should be blasting McCain in the polls and it just isn't happening. More people are waking up to the fact that he does not stand for anything remotely resembling change, just more of the same.

what polls are you looking at?

alexey
September-23rd-2008, 09:10 AM
If anybody is desperate it is Obama. By all accounts the annointed one should be blasting McCain in the polls and it just isn't happening. More people are waking up to the fact that he does not stand for anything remotely resembling change, just more of the same.
Do you mean the elected one? Are you talking about the one that represents a much needed change from R to D?

ccsl2
September-23rd-2008, 10:06 AM
If anybody is desperate it is Obama. By all accounts the annointed one should be blasting McCain in the polls and it just isn't happening. More people are waking up to the fact that he does not stand for anything remotely resembling change, just more of the same.

Yeah right. The "annointed one". That is pretty funny. What's even funnier is that he is being "mocked" for being so popular.

Burgold
September-23rd-2008, 10:13 AM
I think more funny is you can tell the players by the verbs, adjectives, and Adverbs. I don't think anyone in the Obama camp or even amongst his supporters ever call him the "Annointed One'

I guess you could call that one of McCain's errors.

ccsl2
September-23rd-2008, 10:18 AM
I think more funny is you can tell the players by the verbs, adjectives, and Adverbs. I don't think anyone in the Obama camp or even amongst his supporters ever call him the "Annointed One'

I guess you could call that one of McCain's errors.

Whats even funnier is that the McCain camp actually made a "Rock Star "commercial and a "Annointed One" Commercial for Obama. I mean with Moses and Paris Hilton in these commercial!!! MOSES AND PARIS HILTON!!

Burgold
September-23rd-2008, 10:29 AM
Breaking news: McCain Camp Announces their Official Campaign Song

(Columbus, OH) Spokesmen for the McCain Camp today announced that after a long search that the McCain Camp has finally chosen its theme song. McCain candidates said that they wanted to pick a song that perfectly exemplifies their candidate and what he stands for.

"There's something about 'The Boxer' by Simon and Garfunkel," said long time friend and advisor Charles Penders, "especially the chorus. Whenever you hear the chorus you immediately think of John McCain."

more...

mjah
September-23rd-2008, 11:38 AM
If anybody is desperate it is Obama. By all accounts the annointed one should be blasting McCain in the polls and it just isn't happening. More people are waking up to the fact that he does not stand for anything remotely resembling change, just more of the same.
Actually, the more interesting question to ask is exactly the opposite of that!

Try this question instead. Here's John McCain: Veteran, POW, torture victim, maverick by reputation, one-time reformer, with a history of taking on the disagreeable elements of Washington on both sides of the aisle. He's certainly the best possible candidate the Republicans could have put up, and his past political stylings suggest that he would stand the best chance of working across the aisle and cleaning up the Republican party at the same time (short of a lost election and party revolution, of course). He has a long record to run on, and he knows his way around Washington. And he claims to be a major change from Shrub. In short, he has absolutely the ideal pedigree for the job, given the significant limitation of being associated with the Republican party.

So, HOW THE HELL COULD HE POSSIBLY BE TIED OR TRAILING against a very young liberal black Senator whom nobody had even heard of 4 years ago?

It boggles the mind. That's how bad a candidate McCain has turned out to be, and how badly his campaign has been run (by the powers to which he has abdicated control). From the Palin pick to the complete lack of honesty from his campaign, he's obviously the desperate one.

In the end, if Obama wins this election (and he's the odds-on favorite at the moment), then people will say this about the way McCain sank: He lied. He surrounded himself with the wrong people, took the wrong advice, and sank himself. Just like Hillary, he lied too much, too often, and then whined and complained about the media when they actually got things right and called a lie a lie.

From direct, obvious lies ("Sex ed for kindergarteners!") to more overarching dishonesty that no honest candidate would tolerate in his own campaign ("Country First" vs. "Palin for VP"), McCain has thrown away everything he used to stand for.

What's left? His party affiliation, and that's about it.