View Full Version : How to stop the Eagles offense.....
NoCalMike
October-4th-2008, 03:30 PM
Similar to Dallas's defense, Philly loves to take deep shots down the field. If the Week 2 matchup between these two teams did anything positive for the rest of the league, it provided a blueprint on how to beat them and how to attack them.
Unlike Dallas, Philly is going to get the ball into Westbrook's hands a bunch of times. Whether they are down by more than one score or not, Westbrook is still going to get his touches. I would have Rocky McIntosh shadow Westbrook. When he moves, McIntosh moves. Most of the time Westbrook is catching short yardage passes in which is ok for the completion to take place, as long as he is tackled right away. If we can tackle Westbrook as he is catching the ball, the Eagles will be in store for a lot of 3rd & Longs.
As far as the deep passing game. The Eagles don't have anyone as dangerous as T.O. but their rookie does have some jets on him. The strategy there is obvious, don't let him get behind you. I would take a similar approach, Man-Press coverage with a safety over the top.
Pressure McNabb. McNabb has a great deep ball when he has the time to stand, plant and throw, but get him on the run and he often starts to one-hope throws to his targets and makes mistakes.
The biggest thing though is to stop their big play ability. We all saw the frustration in Dallas's eyes because they couldn't throw the deep ball on our defense. I think if our defense can do the same thing this week(Will be a lot harder if Springs is out) then we can win this game.
Redskins:Victory_or_Death
October-4th-2008, 03:35 PM
Excellent Strategy... :applause:
Pressure McNabb all day. I'd say use Chris Wilson as an option for a speed rush and keep the Eagles OL guessing.
zskins
October-4th-2008, 03:40 PM
Westbrook is still listed as probable on Nfl.com so really he is not 100% or is going to be by tomorrow. Have LL scare the crap out of the rookie Jackson and he will start making mistakes quickly.
We need to be more concerned about protecting JC and giving him time to throw.
Voice_of_Reason
October-4th-2008, 03:41 PM
Something to keep in mind: Philly's offense is VERY SIMILAR to the 'Skins offense. Reid and Zorn are both off of the Holmgren tree. The 'Skins defense should be very used to this offensive strategy because they have been practicing against it for months. (NOTE: the reverse is also true, Philly's D has been practicing against something similar to our offense as well.)
I think that the battle at the line of scrimiage is going to be HUGE. Literally. Philly has the largest line in the NFL. The way you beat size is with speed. Pity Jason Taylor is not suiting up for this game, but I think that you rush with speed often, blitz often, and try and stick it to them up front. If you do that, the secondary can relax a bit and play lose.
STBonecrusher21
October-4th-2008, 03:42 PM
Kidnap their entire team?
Redskins:Victory_or_Death
October-4th-2008, 03:49 PM
I think that the battle at the line of scrimiage is going to be HUGE. Literally. Philly has the largest line in the NFL. The way you beat size is with speed. Pity Jason Taylor is not suiting up for this game, but I think that you rush with speed often, blitz often, and try and stick it to them up front. If you do that, the secondary can relax a bit and play lose.Exactly why I think you use Chris Wilson as much as possible. Toss in a Landry safety blitz several times as well. Make the Eagles OL account for EVERYONE.
Redskins:Victory_or_Death
October-4th-2008, 03:50 PM
Kidnap their entire team?http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_02/taserST2006_468x342.jpg
Voice_of_Reason
October-4th-2008, 03:52 PM
Exactly why I think you use Chris Wilson as much as possible. Toss in a Landry safety blitz several times as well. Make the Eagles OL account for EVERYONE.
Can't quibble with that.
Darth Tater
October-4th-2008, 03:55 PM
Well, one big thing similar to our strategy last week, get them off the field and keep them off the field. Make tackles and don't let them beat you over the top. DO NOT LEAVE POINTS ON THE FIELD.
Voice_of_Reason
October-4th-2008, 04:08 PM
One more thought: Do what you did in Dallas: win time of possession 2-1. If McNabb is on the sideline, his completions don't count.
Park City Skins
October-4th-2008, 04:36 PM
Keep in mind that Donovan can be dangerous outside of the pocket. In other words, when pressured. Something the defensive backfield will want to keep in mind during those times when they may be covering those receives for a bit longer than usual.
LoudMouth12thMan
October-4th-2008, 04:57 PM
They could use a similar strategy on Philly that they used against the Pokes, but they may play straight up man to man, cover 2 (with a single high i.e. Landry) and use one guy to double, blitz, or play in a certain zone. Westbrook doesn't scare me this game, so I think that you'll see Blache play pretty straight up and surprise Philly once in a while with a 5th man coming on occasion. Otherwise, I think that they'll contain McNabb in the pocket and try to force him to throw the ball quick by getting pressure. Pressure doesn't have to mean sacks as was evident in the Dallas game. The Eagles have a terrible running game, but I hope Blache talks to these guys about being prepared for Reid to call more runs to catch us off guard i.e. Arizona. :2cents:
dfitzo53
October-4th-2008, 05:07 PM
Exactly why I think you use Chris Wilson as much as possible. Toss in a Landry safety blitz several times as well. Make the Eagles OL account for EVERYONE.
Horton had some nice plays blitzing in preseason as well. Always tough to tell how preseason play translates to the regular season, but I've been waiting for him to get another shot at the QB.
GSF
October-4th-2008, 07:32 PM
I don't think the Skins will blitz much. I expect them to play a lot of tight coverage and try to make McNabb run through his progressions.
dfitzo53
October-4th-2008, 07:47 PM
I don't think the Skins will blitz much. I expect them to play a lot of tight coverage and try to make McNabb run through his progressions.
You think? McNabb is good at spreading the ball around and if you don't pressure him it makes his job that much easier.
Having somebody on his heels is going to be important.
Sebowski
October-4th-2008, 07:57 PM
It is crazy to think that 5 games into his career Desean Jackson is comanding double coverage.
Thinking Skins
October-4th-2008, 08:07 PM
Excellent Strategy... :applause:
Pressure McNabb all day. I'd say use Chris Wilson as an option for a speed rush and keep the Eagles OL guessing.
And it'd be nice to get something from Erasmus James.
Redskins:Victory_or_Death
October-4th-2008, 08:09 PM
You think? McNabb is good at spreading the ball around and if you don't pressure him it makes his job that much easier.
Having somebody on his heels is going to be important.Exactly. He's no different than Tom Brady in the SuperBowl. You pressure him. You make him make hurried throws and poor decisions. You get in his face and you sack him when you can. That's how you disrupt McNabb.
Thinking Skins
October-4th-2008, 08:12 PM
It is crazy to think that 5 games into his career Desean Jackson is comanding double coverage.
I don't think he is. He's gone up against some crappy secondaries that makes him look good. I mean St Louis, Dallas, Pitt, and Chicago don't have great secondaries. And so its easy to put up numbers against their secondaries if the QB can get time, especially with Dallas Pitt and Chicago (St Louis is just crap).
I think Springs, Rogers or Smoot could handle him. Torrence maybe for a play or two. I don't think I trust Tyron with him yet.
Redskins:Victory_or_Death
October-4th-2008, 08:16 PM
It is crazy to think that 5 games into his career Desean Jackson is comanding double coverage.It helps that the rest of the Eagles recievers are average at best even when healthy and don't deserve double coverage.
Ray Brown
October-4th-2008, 08:18 PM
I don't think he is. He's gone up against some crappy secondaries that makes him look good. I mean St Louis, Dallas, Pitt, and Chicago don't have great secondaries. And so its easy to put up numbers against their secondaries if the QB can get time, especially with Dallas Pitt and Chicago (St Louis is just crap).
I think Springs, Rogers or Smoot could handle him. Torrence maybe for a play or two. I don't think I trust Tyron with him yet.
He's gone up against mediocre secondaries THIS YEAR. McNabb has been an all pro almost every year he's been healthy. to say he isn't good at spreading the ball around is moronic. He went to 3 straight NFC champ games with an awful receiving corps, and is one of the top qb's in the leauge when healthy. to think he isn't capable of spreading the ball around is foolish.
Thinking Skins
October-4th-2008, 08:24 PM
He's gone up against mediocre secondaries THIS YEAR. McNabb has been an all pro almost every year he's been healthy. to say he isn't good at spreading the ball around is moronic. He went to 3 straight NFC champ games with an awful receiving corps, and is one of the top qb's in the leauge when healthy. to think he isn't capable of spreading the ball around is foolish.
nah, that was a mistake. I quoted the wrong guy. I meant to make that about Deshaun Jackson, the rookie. Then my post makes sense. I'm gonna make that change.
Redskins:Victory_or_Death
October-4th-2008, 08:24 PM
He's gone up against mediocre secondaries THIS YEAR. McNabb has been an all pro almost every year he's been healthy. to say he isn't good at spreading the ball around is moronic. He went to 3 straight NFC champ games with an awful receiving corps, and is one of the top qb's in the leauge when healthy. to think he isn't capable of spreading the ball around is foolish.But we don't have to worry about him spreading the ball around if we are spreading him all over the turf.
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GSF
October-4th-2008, 09:44 PM
You think? McNabb is good at spreading the ball around and if you don't pressure him it makes his job that much easier.
Having somebody on his heels is going to be important.
I could be completely wrong, but I think they'll try to get the best pressure they can with the front 4, play good coverage, and force McNabb to be accurate and find 3rd and 4th receivers. McNabb has always killed us scrambling away from the blitz.
zskins
October-4th-2008, 09:50 PM
Kidnap their entire team?
Planning on getting banned from Iggles stadium as well until 2021. :laugh:
Redskins:Victory_or_Death
October-4th-2008, 09:59 PM
Planning on getting banned from Iggles stadium as well until 2021. :laugh:Actually in order to do that, STB21 would have to do something to an Eagles fan that was crude and unaturally sexual....
Ewwww....
zskins
October-4th-2008, 10:03 PM
Actually in order to do that, STB21 would have to do something to an Eagles fan that was crude and unaturally sexual....
Ewwww....
That shouldn't be too hard for STB21. :silly::laugh:
dfitzo53
October-4th-2008, 10:11 PM
I could be completely wrong, but I think they'll try to get the best pressure they can with the front 4, play good coverage, and force McNabb to be accurate and find 3rd and 4th receivers. McNabb has always killed us scrambling away from the blitz.
I could be wrong too, I just think that McNabb is going to have all the time he wants if we only send four. We didn't really put all that much pressure on Romo and McNabb is definitely more of a threat.
Thinking Skins
October-4th-2008, 10:13 PM
I could be wrong too, I just think that McNabb is going to have all the time he wants if we only send four. We didn't really put all that much pressure on Romo and McNabb is definitely more of a threat.
yeah, I'd say you're wrong on that. We didn't have the sacks, but we had the pressure.
str8jacket
October-5th-2008, 05:26 AM
I say knock the hell out of mcnabb and westbrook early and often and remind them of those injuries. They will have to take some kind of a toll. Not like Buckhalter can't play good but he's not westbrook. Hope we can get some pressure with taylor out.
paloosa
October-5th-2008, 06:37 AM
This game will be a good one and if we can get on top early then we have a better chance to win. Westbrook isn't a 100% but that doesn't mean he isn't dangerous. DeShawn Jackson has speed but is still a rookie and will make mistakes. Keep him in front of you and don't give up the big play. If LaRon Landry can get a good clean hit on him he will think a little bit more before going into his area. Pressure McNabb and he will make mistakes because he isn't as mobile as he was in past years so he has to rely on his arm more. Shut down Westbrook or limit his impact and we will win this game. Give Portis the ball and control the clock like we did in Dallas. That is the recipe for success.
Stiggs
October-5th-2008, 06:48 AM
I always worry about the tackling, i hate seeing flailing arm tackles to the point the guy being tackled looks like he has left a trail behind him. If we can stop YAC ect with solid tackles it will do allot..
TheShredder
October-5th-2008, 07:51 AM
I think we should dog pile on Westbrook and someone twist his ankle like in those old school wrestling!
No, I'm serious! A lot goes on in that pile...
Then, we don't need sacks to hurt McNab, just hit him hard every chance we get and fall on him with all the weight and momentum you can provide... His chest is hurting and that's all you need to tweak it enough to get him to throw a pic or into the ground a few times on 3rd down.
LL needs to take a penalty and a fine and send a message early!
That's how these games go...
Last.... Never give up!
:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck
:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:
dfitzo53
October-5th-2008, 08:31 AM
That's certainly the classy approach. :rolleyes:
Park City Skins
October-5th-2008, 08:36 AM
I think we should dog pile on Westbrook and someone twist his ankle like in those old school wrestling!
No, I'm serious! A lot goes on in that pile...
Then, we don't need sacks to hurt McNab, just hit him hard every chance we get and fall on him with all the weight and momentum you can provide... His chest is hurting and that's all you need to tweak it enough to get him to throw a pic or into the ground a few times on 3rd down.
LL needs to take a penalty and a fine and send a message early!
That's how these games go...
Last.... Never give up!
:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck:eaglesuck
:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:
Ummm. Okay. Maybe making that switch to decaf now would be a good idea.
bertoskins
October-5th-2008, 08:50 AM
yes. they have weapons. their cocky rookie wr has speed. laron landry should bust his lips on the first couple of plays so that he will think of doing it again. of course westbrook and mcnabb should not be taken for granted.
The Fourth King
October-5th-2008, 10:17 AM
The problem is Philly can't go deep on us. We have Landry ready to blow some tiny ass recievers up, and we have Horton ready to intercept anything that goes his way.
We have to worry about Westbrook. He is going to get so many screens and short passes.
Idaho fan
October-5th-2008, 10:44 AM
Stopping this offense would have been easier with Taylor and Springs in the line up. They have Westbrook back - if the Skins can stop him they will stop this Offense IMO.
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