We're still not scoring enough points

[TheItalianStallion]

I'm ECSTATIC that we're 4-1, but we've once again put up a fairly mediocre number of points despite lots of yards. We had over 450 yards of offense against NO, yet we had less than 30 points to show for it. The Arizona game wasn't a huge offensive game for us, so 24 points is acceptable there. But each of the past 2 weeks we've had nearly 400 yards of offense, yet we've gotten 26 and 23 points in each of them. We outgained the Eagles by over 130 yards, yet we beat them by less than a TD.

With the weak schedule that we have over the next few weeks, we have an opportunity to fix that. I'll be happy with wins, but I would really like to see us put up a boatload of points over the next few weeks.

EDIT: Okay, a lot of the people who have replied in this thread have completely misunderstood my point. ALL I'M SAYING is that we're continuing to leave points on the field. Oh and please take note of the first 5 words of this post. Thanks.

[Reic]

Well, we are scoring over 20 points a game, and that was hard to come by last season, so that's a start.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

:)

Look, I'd love to see us blow teams out, but we are dominating them even while getting ****ed by the refs.

Enjoy the win, our team is looking great.

[turbodiesel#44]

We are scoring enough to win. More than the other team. WTF do you want?

[SittingBull]

I have a feeling you'll be satisfied next week.

[TheDoyler23]

I would be great to have had one more TD than FG the last two weeks, but were moving the ball and controlling the clock every game besides the opener.

[beachwoodskinfan]

Look at rhe d's we've played but either way our d is intense so STFU

[occidio]

wow.. close this thread. People just dont know much about football.

[SkinsHokieFan]

It will start to happen. Thomas, Kelly and Davis will get more involved and those FGs will start to turn into TDs

This is only the 5th game of the Zorn O

[Khun Kao]

Let's not forget that despite how we seemed to handle them, the Eagles have one of the best defenses in the league.

[Seabee1973]

As this team gels and get s more comfortable with the offense things will click its not like last year it seems where we would just die or play to get the field goal.

[SKOALSKIN]

yeah no one is scoring on the eagles, cowboys, or Giants.

[jnhay]

I'm still waiting for Fred Davis and Malcolm Kelly to get involved in the redzone. Kelly's been injured, but I think Davis should start getting some practice down there really soon.

[Henry]

We've scored -

The second most points against the Saints this season.
The second most points against the Cardinals this season.
The second most points against the Cowboys this season.
The second most points against the Eagles this season.

It could also be the schedule.

[cmorina69]

Look at the Teams we played. Think before you post.

[playoffsplz]

Sorry dude but this is a really weak point. If you asked me a few weeks ago if we would have scored 20+ in Dallas and Philly I would have laughed at you.

If this team stays focused I'll bet will see a one or two 30+ games in the next few weeks.

[Skinzwelder]

As long as we win who cares how many points we put up?

[Jofizz]

Annnnnnnd cue Debbie Downer.

[jnhay]

wow.. close this thread. People just dont know much about football.

I don't think you need to know much to see that we got 3 field goals instead of TDs. EDIT: To be fair, one field goal was really impressive at the end of the first half.

[Metalhead]

The offense seems to bog down inside the 10. But to me looks like a combination of poor execution and strong timely defense by our opponents.

Against Dallas we had the fade pass to the back corner of the endzone caught, but that pass was late and led the reciever out.

We just need to work out the kinks and score earlier from farther out before the field shortens.

[krisjan76]

i'd like us to put more points up on the board too, but as long as we're scoring more than our opponents i'll be happy :)

[ddub52]

Well, they took away the Devin Thomas TD against AZ
The Portis TD run against dallass
And now the Randle EL TD cuz he wasnt touched and they called him down.
Besides, its not like we are playing easy teams
30 points will come this week against STL

[LD0506]

Look at the Teams we played. Think before you post.

And then don't

[KingGibbs]

Wow, just wow. We've just won four in a row with back to back wins on the road within the division and people are finding something to ***** about. Unfriggin' believable.

[ntotoro]

I'm happy we're winning and these guys are still improving. Trust me, they know they've left points and yards out there. They're still growing.

[TheREALJBird]

Seriously? Some people just wanna ***** 24/7

[PortisFan123]

I don't know but the game between the Eagles and Cowpukes was a huge score fest..unbelievable. But heck we are on road, and playing pretty stout D's so I am happy.

[jnhay]

Wow, just wow. We've just won four in a row with back to back wins on the road within the division and people are finding something to ***** about. Unfriggin' believable.

I don't think it's bitching, it's more like seeing potential. We can get better as the season goes along, and people should expect that. How is that wrong?

[HigSkin]

Last year if we had scored this many points, we'd won several more games. I'll take this years scoring and a top 10 D anytime.

[Oldskool]

Points scored is often the last measure of how well a team knows and can execute the offense. As the season progresses, and especially against the milktoast defenses of our next 3 opponents, the points will come.

[jrfriedm]

Mid to upper 20's is fine by me.

[beachwoodskinfan]

you are are an idiot go watch baseball

[jnhay]

Points scored is often the last measure of how well a team knows and can execute the offense. As the season progresses, and especially against the milktoast defenses of our next 3 opponents, the points will come.

I don't think he's criticizing the team for getting 21+ points a game, but rather just seeing that we could have gotten more.

[ArsheimSkins]

We've played phenomenal so far. Only game under 20 was the Debacle in the Meadowlands.

Also, when you score at least 1 more point than your opponent, you're definitely scoring enough points :)

[shakinaiken]

why is everyone pissed about this thread? its a valid argument in some ways.... we seem to dominate the teans we play, but dont have that many points to show for it. obviously not a big deal as we are winning these games...but i dont see why it cant be borught up as a problem and something to fix

[ALLWORLD]

this team is doing enough to beat their opponents, so if they have a low "ppg" so be it. They're doing what it takes to win games and when it is all said and done, the losers look at stats, the winners look at the wins!

[WorldBFree76]

LOL, some people are never satisfied. The Redskins have played some tough teams, hopefully they will blow out the next few teams so we'll have no haters :D

[Oldskool]

I don't think he's criticizing the team for getting 21+ points a game, but rather just seeing that we could have gotten more.

Which goes to what I just posted. Execution of the offense to a greater degree will result in more than 21+ per game.

As everything else this season, as long as we play well, things will come in time.

[Painkiller]

I do understand the original post, but we have played many of the NFL's elite defenses so far this season. We haven't had one game against a defensively challenged team. Yes, I would like to see more touchdowns when we are in the red zone. Does anybody know those stats. How many times we have been in the red zone this season, and only come away with a field goal or no points?

[Dallsux]

I'm ECSTATIC that we're 4-1, but we've once again put up a fairly mediocre number of points despite lots of yards. We had over 450 yards of offense against NO, yet we had less than 30 points to show for it. The Arizona game wasn't a huge offensive game for us, so 24 points is acceptable there. But each of the past 2 weeks we've had nearly 400 yards of offense, yet we've gotten 26 and 23 points in each of them. We outgained the Eagles by over 130 yards, yet we beat them by less than a TD.

With the weak schedule that we have over the next few weeks, we have an opportunity to fix that. I'll be happy with wins, but I would really like to see us put up a boatload of points over the next few weeks.



Are you serious? :doh: Boatload of wins is all I care about. I could care less about whether we score 3 or 50 points, as long as we have more points than our opponents.

Jeez, gimme a break. :rolleyes:

[TheItalianStallion]

why is everyone pissed about this thread? its a valid argument in some ways.... we seem to dominate the teans we play, but dont have that many points to show for it. obviously not a big deal as we are winning these games...but i dont see why it cant be borught up as a problem and something to fixExactly. The negative responders here also seem to have overlooked the fact that I said that I was "ecstatic about being 4-1."

[LilSkinnette]

Amazing how no matter what --- some people will never be satisfied. Sad.

[TheLongshot]

I look at things this way: The offense has a lot of room to get even better. We haven't topped out yet.

Jason

[TheItalianStallion]

LOL, some people are never satisfied. The Redskins have played some tough teams, hopefully they will blow out the next few teams so we'll have no haters :DWho said anything about not being satisfied? I said I was ECSTATIC. I'm just pointing out a potential issue that we have to take a look at.

[Tom10Y]

we've been playing teams with good defense. Are you crazy? This isn't basketball.

[Tom10Y]

You just can't satisfy everybody...sad...

[HighOnHendrix]

Instead of just a raw increase in points, I'd just like to see a higher percentage of our scores as TDs instead of FGs.

[Taylor4Life]

For me, the only stat that matters in divisional road games is W/L. We are kicking ass in the trenches, and there is nothing a home crowd can do about THAT.

[kingfish50]

It's going to get better, be patient. When ARE stops dropping the ball, Rabach not getting called on non penalties and the Refs blowing the whistle 10 seconds after a play when ARE was never touched and was on his way to score another TD......

[Painkiller]

Instead of just a raw increase in points, I'd just like to see a higher percentage of our scores as TDs instead of FGs.

That's all I think the original post was trying to say. Ease up a bit guys. As good as we are, yes that is an area where we could use some improvement.

[2cents]

I agree we are still leaving too many points on the field with field goals, and we do need to fix that. I am not complianing, that is a fact that could hurt us soon. But you have to like the fact we are trying to score in the Red zone, as opposed to settling for field goals is better.

[G-Prime]

this thread fails.. NNT please

[ciresolstice]

Well in Gibbs 2nd time around had we scored 21 pts a game they would have been 14-2 probably. lol The Offense is still a work in progress...the key is they are wining while they are getting it right. It will only get better.

[WorldBFree76]

Who said anything about not being satisfied? I said I was ECSTATIC. I'm just pointing out a potential issue that we have to take a look at.
"We're still not scoring enough points" That doesn't sound like a satisfied person to me...

You're acting as if these were cupcake teams that we couldn't roll over. Now if we struggle to score touchdowns against the next three opponents, we'll have something to worry about.

You also have to take into account the number of scores we lost due to some dumb mistakes, namely the two touchdowns we lost against Dallas due to Rabach's two penalties, and the Devin Thomas touchdown that was lost that could have made these games look like bigger wins than they actually were.

I don't think it's a big issue right now, to be honest. You can see that the team can move the ball against different defenses and can come back from a variety of tough circumstances, in the toughest environments.

[bleedburgundyandgold]

kill this idiot thread now!!!

[Henry]

We outgained the Eagles by over 130 yards, yet we beat them by less than a TD.

But see, this is why it looks like you are looking for reasons to complain. I'd expect someone with a truly critical eye to recognize that our offense outscored their offense by 13 points, which is consistant with the yardage differential.

[jileib]

remember the other teams get paid too; also, remember who we played the last two weeks (ON THE ROAD)!

[TheItalianStallion]

"We're still not scoring enough points" That doesn't sound like a satisfied person to me...

You're acting as if these were cupcake teams that we couldn't roll over. Now if we struggle to score touchdowns against the next three opponents, we'll have something to worry about.

You also have to take into account the number of scores we lost due to some dumb mistakes, namely the two touchdowns we lost against Dallas due to Rabach's two penalties, and the Devin Thomas touchdown that was lost that could have made these games look like bigger wins than they actually were.

I don't think it's a big issue right now, to be honest. You can see that the team can move the ball against different defenses and can come back from a variety of tough circumstances, in the toughest environments.You're missing the point. They were tough teams, yes. But we still moved the ball against them. My concern isn't how we're moving the ball; it's that, despite moving the ball well, we don't have a huge amount of points to show for it.

[gutlead74]

e·nough /ɪˈnʌf/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-nuhf] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. adequate for the want or need; sufficient for the purpose or to satisfy desire: enough water; noise enough to wake the dead.
–pronoun 2. an adequate quantity or number; sufficiency.
–adverb 3. in a quantity or degree that answers a purpose or satisfies a need or desire; sufficiently.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/enough
well by the definition of the word we are.

[TheItalianStallion]

But see, this is why it looks like you are looking for reasons to complain. I'd expect someone with a truly critical eye to recognize that our offense outscored their offense by 13 points, which is consistant with the yardage differential.True, but 23 points isn't a lot for a team that gained 388 yards.

I was one of the ESers who was very fed up with all the negativity after the loss to the NYG, and after our 2 preseason losses. I was defending the skins and JC during that time. I might not've picked the ideal words to describe my feelings in this thread, but I am NOT looking for things to complain about.

[jnhay]

Amazing how no matter what --- some people will never be satisfied. Sad.

You know who isn't satisfied? Jim Zorn, Clinton Portis, Jason Campbell and the rest of the team. There's nothing wrong with high standards as long as you recognize what the team has done well, which the OP has.

There are some of you that will go nuts after a loss. I don't see why this thread is all of a sudden crazy to see.

[squatch66]

As long as we win who cares how many points we put up?

thank you.:notworthy

[Dallsux]

You're missing the point. They were tough teams, yes. But we still moved the ball against them. My concern isn't how we're moving the ball; it's that, despite moving the ball well, we don't have a huge amount of points to show for it.



:doh: :doh::rolleyes::doh:


Valid point, bad timing. Wait until mid-week to start whining about **** that doesn't matter. I can't believe, in the midst of celebrating beating the 2 toughest opponents we have to face every year ON THE ROAD, you come in here & are like, "Wait! Let's calm down. We're not scoring enough." That's like taking the hottest girl to the dance (& she promises you sex afterward) & your complaining that her dress is too long. :doh:

[ncsuapex]

The only game we didn't score enough points was the giants game. What a dumb thread.

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

I am still scared Dallas and Philly are just two overrated teams we beat.

But i am happy.

[Bacon]

We've scored enough points to be 4-1 right now...

[Skinsfan1311]

Jesus Christ! I hate these threads. Give it a break. Please?

[W1N_SKINS]

Well, we are scoring over 20 points a game, and that was hard to come by last season, so that's a start.

yeah thats definitely true

[TheItalianStallion]

:doh: :doh::rolleyes::doh:


Valid point, bad timing. Wait until mid-week to start whining about **** that doesn't matter. I can't believe, in the midst of celebrating beating the 2 toughest opponents we have to face every year ON THE ROAD, you come in here & are like, "Wait! Let's calm down. We're not scoring enough." That's like taking the hottest girl to the dance (& she promises you sex afterward) & your complaining that her dress is too long. :doh:(highlighting mine)

Anything beyond that highlighted statement is irrelevent. This is a discussion board, not a celebration board.

[NomadicSkinFan]

I'm ECSTATIC that we're 4-1, but we've once again put up a fairly mediocre number of points despite lots of yards. We had over 450 yards of offense against NO, yet we had less than 30 points to show for it. The Arizona game wasn't a huge offensive game for us, so 24 points is acceptable there. But each of the past 2 weeks we've had nearly 400 yards of offense, yet we've gotten 26 and 23 points in each of them. We outgained the Eagles by over 130 yards, yet we beat them by less than a TD.

With the weak schedule that we have over the next few weeks, we have an opportunity to fix that. I'll be happy with wins, but I would really like to see us put up a boatload of points over the next few weeks.

Agreed, but you also must recognize that we are getting big chunks of yards the last drive of the game where we are running out the clock. This team has been incredible at TOP this year. We've managed to run out 7+ minutes to seal the game multiple times now. That's just incredible.

[Meskeet21]

cmon homeslice, look at the defenses we have played. you wont be saying this come next 3 weeeks, when the points really roll in, just relax. :cheers:

[Henry]

True, but 23 points isn't a lot for a team that gained 388 yards.

So ... when we get the ball on our own three yard line and go 67 yards, eat up 8:19 off the clock and score a FG ... is that not a good drive?

What about the following drive, going 50 yards in less than a minute for a FG with 7 seconds left in the half ... that should have been a TD?

That's a 117 yards of offense and only 6 points. Should I look at the stat line and be disappointed? Or is there more going on than just stats?

At this stage in the season, a non-offensive TD (INT, punt return ... whatever) really skews a team's scoring average. Each one right now is adds over a point per game to that average. Of the 11 teams that haven't scored one of these types of TDs, we are second in points scored, to Arizona, who scored about 30 garbage-time TDs last week.

Given the teams we've played so far, I'm not too worried about our offense's output.

[Peregrine]

Once again, I wouldnt worry about it. First, we put up a lot of points CONSIDERING who we were playing and where. Not every NFL game is equal. Second, this is Zorn's offenses 5th game. The team has really moved the ball well, and now as it matures, it just needs to finish a little better. One more TD instead of FG every game puts this team in elite offense territory. Just be a little patient.

[Dallsux]

(highlighting mine)

Anything beyond that highlighted statement is irrelevent. This is a discussion board, not a celebration board.


:rolleyes:

Ok...whatever. I'm apparently the only one who sees it that way, right?


BTW, you obviously haven't been here very long, so I'll help you out a little. We tend to "celebrate" here after a win. I know it's not a "celebration" board, but us REDSKINS fans like to "celebrate" when we do well. And by doing well, I mean, winning, not just scoring outrageous amounts of points. Complaining after a win will always attract negative responses...just so ya know. It is, however, more acceptable on the Eagles boards. Maybe you should try posting this thread over there. :2cents:

:eaglesuck

[TheItalianStallion]

So ... when we get the ball on our own three yard line and go 67 yards, eat up 8:19 off the clock and score a FG ... is that not a good drive?

What about the following drive, going 50 yards in less than a minute for a FG with 7 seconds left in the half ... that should have been a TD?

That's a 117 yards of offense and only 6 points. Should I look at the stat line and be disappointed? Or is there more going on than just stats?

At this stage in the season, a non-offensive TD (INT, punt return ... whatever) really skews a team's scoring average. Each one right now is adds over a point per game to that average. Of the 11 teams that haven't scored one of these types of TDs, we are second in points scored, to Arizona, who scored about 30 garbage-time TDs last week.

Given the teams we've played so far, I'm not too worried about our offense's output.As I said before, it's not the offense's ability to move the ball that I'm concerned about. It's the fact that, despite moving the ball as well as they have, they don't have a whole lot of points to show for it. I was very happy that they were able to move the ball as well as they have against these tough opponents. But despite doing so, they didn't put up a whole lot of points. I do feel that we'll get better at finishing drives as the year goes on, but until we do, it'll remain a concern of mine.

[TheItalianStallion]

:rolleyes:

Ok...whatever. I'm apparently the only one who sees it that way, right?


BTW, you obviously haven't been here very long, so I'll help you out a little. We tend to "celebrate" here after a win. I know it's not a "celebration" board, but us REDSKINS fans like to "celebrate" when we do well. And by doing well, I mean, winning, not just scoring outrageous amounts of points. Complaining after a win will always attract negative responses...just so ya know. It is, however, more acceptable on the Eagles boards. Maybe you should try posting this thread over there. :2cents:

:eaglesuckDon't talk down to me. I've been here for a year, and I've been reading for several years. If you want to celebrate, that's fine, but celebration and substantive discussion don't have to be mutually exclusive on this board. If you'd rather celebrate than engage in a discussion of a potential concern (ie-NOT a "complaint"), then do so in another thread.

[Henry]

As I said before, it's not the offense's ability to move the ball that I'm concerned about. It's the face that, despite moving the ball as well as they have, they don't have a whole lot of points to show for it. I was very happy that they were able to move the ball as well as they have against these tough opponents. But despite doing so, they didn't put up a whole lot of points. i do feel that we'll get better at finishing drives as the year goes on, but until we do, it'll remain a concern of mine.

I'm still not seeing it. Again, against every team except the Giants our scores have been high relative to our opponents. It was noted during the game today that the Eagles hadn't given up a TD at home all season long before today. We scored two. That's GOOD, not a point of concern, in my opinon.

[Robbynice]

When you outscore your opponent in a given game then IMO you score enough. It is as simple as that.

[Blondie]

When asked of Abraham Lincoln; "How long should a mans legs be? He replied; "Long enough to reach from his body to the floor".

When asked "How many points should be scored in a game? the answer should be "enough for the win".

Pretty wins with many points margin and ugly wins with a 1 point margin are the same in the end.

Still go in the win column.

This was a good game.

The offense was moving. JC is coming into his own game.

[skinsfan07]

Well, we are scoring over 20 points a game, and that was hard to come by last season, so that's a start.

exactly. I think we'll score over 30 the next 3 weeks though. lol

[zskins]

But we are wining games. You don't do this by not scoring enough points.

[TheItalianStallion]

I'm still not seeing it. Again, against every team except the Giants our scores have been high relative to our opponents. It was noted during the game today that the Eagles hadn't given up a TD at home all season long before today. We scored two. That's GOOD, not a point of concern, in my opinon.Fair enough. But if we continue to settle for FGs and have promising drives stall over the coming weeks (which are against weak opponents), then I'm sure you'll agree that this is a concern.

[Henry]

Fair enough. But if we continue to settle for FGs and have promising drives stall over the coming weeks (which are against weak opponents), then I'm sure you'll agree that this is a concern.

Sure. But I don't think that's going to happen. Not based on what I've seen so far.

[Taylor 21]

But we are winning the games, so i dont see your point. If we lose then I can understand, but we are winning...

[NewCliche21]

I'd love to score more points.

However, 4-1 is the only core that matters.

[2006Skins]

Lets be real here for a minute, we've held the ball long enough to keep our D off the field. That will equal less points. We're not having 15 possessions a game, we're having 10 or less. Which means we're holding onto the ball and pounding away at the D.

Look at the SB winning teams over the years...

Last year: Giants-with huge running game and good D. Held the ball, not blew away the competition (like the Pats did).
Year before: Colts-didn't win the big one until they learned how to play D and run the ball effectively. Manning didn't win it when he threw 49 tds, he won it when they learned how to hold onto the ball longer than their opponents.
3 years ago: Steelers-pounded the ball and won with TOP battle and great D.

I hope you see a trend here before anyone gets worried. The winners of the SB have lead the turnover battle, TOP battle, played great D, and had a helluva running game.

[DCsFavoriteAirman]

So what.

Did you really expect 30+ points put up on Dallas or Philadelphia? Well, it should have been 33pts in Dallas, but referees make holding calls there that don't exist.

It doesn't matter how many points Washington scores. They've beaten the two best teams in the NFL, the ones that said they were going to the Super Bowl and the ones that were picked to go to the Super Bowl.

They've got the Rams next week. You'll be satisfied.

[TheItalianStallion]

Lets be real here for a minute, we've held the ball long enough to keep our D off the field. That will equal less points. We're not having 15 possessions a game, we're having 10 or less. Which means we're holding onto the ball and pounding away at the D.

Look at the SB winning teams over the years...

Last year: Giants-with huge running game and good D. Held the ball, not blew away the competition (like the Pats did).
Year before: Colts-didn't win the big one until they learned how to play D and run the ball effectively. Manning didn't win it when he threw 49 tds, he won it when they learned how to hold onto the ball longer than their opponents.
3 years ago: Steelers-pounded the ball and won with TOP battle and great D.

I hope you see a trend here before anyone gets worried. The winners of the SB have lead the turnover battle, TOP battle, played great D, and had a helluva running game.The issue is that promising drives have stalled and we've either had to settle for FGs or punt after picking up several first downs. I'm not worried yet, but if we don't put up more points against the upcoming (weak) opponents, then we may have a problem.

[Dallsux]

Don't talk down to me. I've been here for a year, and I've been reading for several years. If you want to celebrate, that's fine, but celebration and substantive discussion don't have to be mutually exclusive on this board. If you'd rather celebrate than engage in a discussion of a potential concern (ie-NOT a "complaint"), then do so in another thread.

Well, my feeling is, if you are going to complain after a win & if you have the right to start a new thread doing so, I have the same right to respond & tell you how silly it is to be complaining after a win, especially under the circumstances. If you want every post to agree with your OP, then try another site or try not complaining after a win.

REGARDLESS of how YOU see it, it appears as though you started a thread complaining about semantics. "Yeah, we won, buuuuut..." kinda thing. I could be wrong, but I don't think I'm alone here.

It would be nice FOR ONCE to come in here after a win & NOT see someone saying something like, "Waaaaa! We're still not scoring ENOUGH!" Enough? When we score MORE then the other team, that's enough. But some people seemingly can't help themselves & always have to see the negative side of everything. Even a win...or 4.

[TomE]

I'm ECSTATIC that we're 4-1, but we've once again put up a fairly mediocre number of points despite lots of yards. blah, blah..

New offense, banged up defense, we outplay Philly at Philly to get a win and all you can post-up is that we're not scoring enough points.

Get a grip, you sound like the whiners during Gibbs1 when the team didn't win "pretty".

Yeah, we left points on the field but we played the game for four quarters.

Don't expect the Skins to be a juggernaut in every game they win.
Zorn was a scrapper when he played and it looks like he’s not changed as a coach, the team is following suit.

[Passizle]

dumb post...
dumber poster...

No offense OP... but WTF? Try enjoying this. No one, including myself, thought the skins would be 4 and 1 with the brutal schedule we had to open the season.

[mi6]

We are a team that is still in learning mode... and, as a consequence we haven't mastered all the offensive plays that are in the play book.

Once we get the O-line comfortable with the blocks/checks, and Jason continues to improve on his reads we will need less help in proctecting him, and thus opening up the offense - 2 TE formations with 3 WRs, or 4 WR sets.

Devin, Malcom, and Fred will get involved in the near future to make the offense that much more potent.


The ONLY thing we need to work on is our PR/KR game. ARE is just cutting it there. His side stepping and dancing around is fooling anyone.

[Smurf85]

We have played a lot of good defensive teams this year. We're putting up 20 + points a week and are winning. I don't think there is much more you can ask for.

[Skinlanta]

you ,my friend, are an IDIOT! can't believe I'm responsding to this.....

[jnhay]

This team is perfect. Yay! Everyone wait until we lose a game to say anything critical at all! Actually, go ahead and say that we need to fire Zorn or something because that's how it usually goes!

[rumpshakers]

Look at our record, 4-1, we held |||NY to 1 TD Defense wins games.

[LuvtheSkins428]

Some people aren't happy when we are losing, and unbeliveably, some aren't happy when we are WINNING.

They are WINNING. Against GOOD teams. It's difficult to blow out good teams by 20+ points and our schedule has been extremely difficult since Game #1. The next three games we should score pretty well.

Be happy for the Skins - they deserve it!!!

[brianm23]

Not sure if anybody's mentioned this, but we were playing one of the top defenses in the NFL. I'm shocked they got 23 to be honest with you. :D All the teams we've played have had good defenses (or improved D's ...aka..Cardinals) with the exception of New Orleans.

[TNSkinsFan]

We are beating the strongest in the league, our own division rivals, and beating them on the road. We are strong, and the crown comes through D.C. if we beat the Giants later on this year.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

I dont remember the last time we scored over 20 points against good teams 4 weeks in a row. I'm happy so far.

[COWBOY-KILLA-]

Seriously, check yourself into a hospital.

[Henry]

I think this pretty much explains why I'm not worried.

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=263382

[shedrick]

I think we are getting better ever week.

[mcarey032]

umm when you score more than 20 and the other team scores less than 20, that is Gibbs philosophy of winning in his first tenure and it seemed to work pretty well. Let's remember that we were going against one of the best defenses in the NFL this week. They hadn't given up a touchdown all year til we got there. So to get 23 in Philly is a great achievement. Like someone said earlier in the post, it is a start. Look at how we had leads and never scored enough. Now we fall behind, but we come back and score more than 20 and hold that team to under 20. I think that we are playing great and that of course there is always room for improvement, but let's not look down at this. If you had told me that we were 4-1 in the first five weeks, I would have called you a total homer. I am so glad that we went in there and showed great poise. It is really refreshing to see that we can go on the road and compete and win.

[Dallsux]

It appears, I'm not alone...

[RAAZ227]

We are scoring enough to win. More than the other team. WTF do you want?


+1

Note we are playing some of the toughest teams in their house. We should have had 30+ except for those bad calls.

[NOVA2Tampa]

We are scoring enough to win. More than the other team. WTF do you want?

+1 Really...WTF??? What part of "4 and 1" does the OP not understand???

[bnewbs]

I'm ECSTATIC that we're 4-1, but we've once again put up a fairly mediocre number of points despite lots of yards. We had over 450 yards of offense against NO, yet we had less than 30 points to show for it. The Arizona game wasn't a huge offensive game for us, so 24 points is acceptable there. But each of the past 2 weeks we've had nearly 400 yards of offense, yet we've gotten 26 and 23 points in each of them. We outgained the Eagles by over 130 yards, yet we beat them by less than a TD.

With the weak schedule that we have over the next few weeks, we have an opportunity to fix that. I'll be happy with wins, but I would really like to see us put up a boatload of points over the next few weeks.

(taken straight from NFL.com)
TOUCHDOWN = 6 POINTS
A touchdown is the biggest single score in a football game. It is worth six points, and it allows the scoring team an opportunity to attempt to get an extra point. To score a touchdown, the ball must be carried across the goal line into the end zone, caught in the end zone, or a fumble recovered in the end zone, or an untouched kickoff recovered in the end zone by the kicking team.


http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/beginnersguidetofootball


We beat the Eagles by 6 points in other words a touchdown.

[Rudechain]

I'm ECSTATIC that we're 4-1, but we've once again put up a fairly mediocre number of points despite lots of yards. We had over 450 yards of offense against NO, yet we had less than 30 points to show for it. The Arizona game wasn't a huge offensive game for us, so 24 points is acceptable there. But each of the past 2 weeks we've had nearly 400 yards of offense, yet we've gotten 26 and 23 points in each of them. We outgained the Eagles by over 130 yards, yet we beat them by less than a TD.

With the weak schedule that we have over the next few weeks, we have an opportunity to fix that. I'll be happy with wins, but I would really like to see us put up a boatload of points over the next few weeks.

Give it time. This offense is still learning to play together under Zorn's scheme.

[terrifNick21]

100% agree! The job is to outscore the opponent, and they've done it 4 weeks in a row now. Don't complain.

[Veretax]

I think the officials took a few points away from us that were there the last few weeks, glad it didn't matter.

[No Excuses]

Yeah but this is the fourth straight week this team has dominated the fourth, ran the clock down and gotten a victory.

I could care less how much they score or not. This is the most effecient Skins offense I have ever seen. When we need a drive of any sorts, we get it. Even better, the 2nd half, where it matters the most is where we dominate.

The crazy thing is were just getting started. Wait till our rookies start producing.

[turbodiesel#44]

I think the officials took a few points away from us that were there the last few weeks, glad it didn't matter.
Good point. Actually, not a good point, but a valid one.

[TheItalianStallion]

Some people aren't happy when we are losing, and unbeliveably, some aren't happy when we are WINNING.

They are WINNING. Against GOOD teams. It's difficult to blow out good teams by 20+ points and our schedule has been extremely difficult since Game #1. The next three games we should score pretty well.

Be happy for the Skins - they deserve it!!!Uhhh...who the hell isn't happy?

[TheItalianStallion]

(taken straight from NFL.com)
TOUCHDOWN = 6 POINTS
A touchdown is the biggest single score in a football game. It is worth six points, and it allows the scoring team an opportunity to attempt to get an extra point. To score a touchdown, the ball must be carried across the goal line into the end zone, caught in the end zone, or a fumble recovered in the end zone, or an untouched kickoff recovered in the end zone by the kicking team.


http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/beginnersguidetofootball


We beat the Eagles by 6 points in other words a touchdown.When people sat "TD," they usually mean 7 points.

[TheItalianStallion]

+1 Really...WTF??? What part of "4 and 1" does the OP not understand???What part of "I'm ECSTATIC about being 4-1" did YOU not understand?

Honestly, after reading some of these replies, I have to wonder whether half the people who replied actually read the thread.

[deejaydana]

The OP does have a point, we can't settle for 3 points like we did in today's first half and expect to come out on top. That said, you still have to be happy w/the progression we're making on offense overall.

[TheItalianStallion]

Sure. But I don't think that's going to happen. Not based on what I've seen so far.It happened. Would you agree that this is a concern now?

[Santana_89]

The issue is that promising drives have stalled and we've either had to settle for FGs or punt after picking up several first downs. I'm not worried yet, but if we don't put up more points against the upcoming (weak) opponents, then we may have a problem.



Now we're barely scoring 7-8 points a game.

[letzgoterps]

Now we're barely scoring 7-8 points a game.
Good bump. Proves that some people on this thread actually watch (or re-watch?) the game and can accurately and fairly critique the game while knowing what they're talking about.