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JMS
October-7th-2008, 10:29 AM
Tarantino's movies, are always good. This headline is a little bit to much like an Oliver Stone movie for my taste. I think the difference between Tarantino and Oliver Stone is: Tarantino makes fictional entertainment, controversial but respected within his genre and by the box office... Stone makes bad fiction, and trys to pass it off as history.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1027043.html


The Holocaust, Tarantino-style: Jews scalping Nazis http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/images/0.gifBy Assaf Uni (assafu@haaretz.co.il) http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/images/0.gifTags: Israel News (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/tags/index.jhtml?tag=Israel+News), Holocaust (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/tags/index.jhtml?tag=Holocaust) http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/images/tags/tag_arrow1.gif
BERLIN - For weeks, Germany's tabloids and culture pages have been preoccupied with Quentin Tarantino's film "Inglorious Bastards," slated to start filming next week in Germany.

While the tabloids are drooling over the movie's star, Brad Pitt, who is moving with his wife Angelina Jolie and their children to a villa close to Berlin ("The most beautiful couple in Wannsee," one headline declared), the serious media is focusing on another angle: Is Germany ready for a Tarantino-style treatment of World War II?

G.A.C.O.L.B.
October-7th-2008, 10:31 AM
And Brad Pitt is a great actor. Seriously.

Should be good.

USS Redskins
October-7th-2008, 10:37 AM
Been waiting for this one for years.... I was not a big fan of Kill Bill. After this I wish he would get on to the Vega Brothers movie.
Two of my favorite genre's: WW2 & Tarantino. Reservoir Dogs meets The Dirty Dozen. Awesome.

ACW
October-7th-2008, 10:59 AM
I was not a big fan of Kill Bill.Fail.

Rocky21
October-7th-2008, 11:37 AM
The difference between Tarantino and Oliver Stone is Tarantino churns out genre movies that are unoriginal and Stone is a great filmmaker with a far left leaning viewpoint.

#98QBKiller
October-7th-2008, 11:43 AM
Tarantino is hands-down my favorite director/producer/writer.

I have everything he has been involved with on DVD including 4 Rooms (VHS for that one).

But yeah, I'm excited as hell about this one. Kill Bill was his best work other than Pulp Fiction....can't wait.

zoony
October-7th-2008, 11:57 AM
This should be good

And imo, the Germans should get over it. If they can't stand the time they shouldn't have done the crime.

McMetal
October-7th-2008, 12:00 PM
I thought he was working on a remake of "Faster Pussycat..." - whew.

Heisenberg
October-7th-2008, 12:02 PM
This should be good

And imo, the Germans should get over it. If they can't stand the time they shouldn't have done the crime.


While I agree the Germans should get over it, there have been many times where I have seen posters on this board say they're tired of being blamed for . . . on second thought, nevermind. :cheers:

Henry
October-7th-2008, 12:14 PM
The thought of Tarantino making a movie about the Holocaust makes me cringe.

zoony
October-7th-2008, 12:29 PM
The thought of Tarantino making a movie about the Holocaust makes me cringe.


I'm remembering an interview done by Tarantino- where he basically said he took statements such as yours as a real compliment.

The reason? - Because his movies are NOT violent. It's just that he does violence very well. (this was an interview done around the time of Pulp Fiction, not Kill Bill, lol). Anyways- I think there was only 1 person that died in Pulp Fiction... and there were a few fist fights. By any standard you couldn't call that violent. But everyone who left the theater came away thinking they'd just watched a very violent movie. The reason? He does violence so well- hence, the compliment.


So I expect this to be similar. Probably narrow in scope but extremely intense. And that's not been done in a movie about the Hollocaust. I guess you could argue either way about whether it should be shown- but when you read about guys like Dr. Mengele, and the relative kid gloves that Hollywood has treated these monsters with- it is at least something to consider that the world might deserve to really know - similar to what, imo, was a breakthrough movie with Gibson's Passion.

Heisenberg
October-7th-2008, 12:31 PM
I'm remembering an interview done by Tarantino- where he basically said he took statements such as yours as a real compliment.

The reason? - Because his movies are NOT violent. It's just that he does violence very well. (this was an interview done around the time of Pulp Fiction, not Kill Bill, lol). Anyways- I think there was only 1 person that died in Pulp Fiction... and there were a few fist fights. By any standard you couldn't call that violent. But everyone who left the theater came away thinking they'd just watched a very violent movie. The reason? He does violence so well- hence, the compliment.


So I expect this to be similar. Probably narrow in scope but extremely intense. And that's not been done in a movie about the Hollocaust. I guess you could argue either way about whether it should be shown- but when you read about guys like Dr. Mengele, and the relative kid gloves that Hollywood has treated these monsters with- it is at least something to consider that the world might deserve to really know - similar to what, imo, was a breakthrough movie with Gibson's Passion.

To be fair . . . Kill Bill DID have people chopping off like 1,000 limbs and blood spraying everywhere.

Although it was so fake it was pretty much funny.

zoony
October-7th-2008, 12:32 PM
To be fair . . . Kill Bill DID have people chopping off like 1,000 limbs and blood spraying everywhere.

Although it was so fake it was pretty much funny.


you didn't read my post. Bonus points if you find the part of my post that makes your point irrelevant :)

Heisenberg
October-7th-2008, 12:35 PM
you didn't read my post. Bonus points if you find the part of my post that makes your point irrelevant :)


Not sure which part you are referring to so I don't receive any bonus points.

However, I wasn't directly disagreeing with you just when you watch that scene it's kind of funny to then come back and read he doesn't do violence.

JMS
October-7th-2008, 12:46 PM
The difference between Tarantino and Oliver Stone is Tarantino churns out genre movies that are unoriginal and Stone is a great filmmaker with a far left leaning viewpoint.

Stone's viewpoint is based on the tin foil hat society.... He doesn't do history; he collects rumors and innuendo and no matter how false, he reports the most salacious...

Tarantino doesn't report history. He makes entertaining original films with varying degrees of success with widely varying budgets.

JMS
October-7th-2008, 12:59 PM
Anyways- I think there was only 1 person that died in Pulp Fiction... and there were a few fist fights. By any standard you couldn't call that violent. .


You might want to review that film on cable tonight.... I can rattle off nine guys who died violently in that film and I haven't seen it in a decade.

(1) The guy with the TASTEE burger and his two buddies.
(2) Vince machine gunned in the toilet.
(3) Zedd, The redneck, and maybe the gimp.
(4) The guy bruce willis killed in the ring.
(5) The guy who's brains they were picking out of the back seat of the car.

I must also say the anal rape sceen involving Ving Rames was among the more shocking and disturbing scenes in modern cinomotography. That was probable worse than the murders.

#98QBKiller
October-7th-2008, 12:59 PM
Anyways- I think there was only 1 person that died in Pulp Fiction...


Quite a few people died in Pulp Fiction...the guy they took the briefcase from and shot to death, Marvin who was shot in the back of their car, Zed and the rapist guy, the boxer that Bruce Willis killed in the ring, John Travolta died, I guess technically Uma Thurman died and then was revived...there may be more...

#98QBKiller
October-7th-2008, 01:00 PM
Lol JMS you beat me to it you bastard!

Henry
October-7th-2008, 01:27 PM
I'm remembering an interview done by Tarantino- where he basically said he took statements such as yours as a real compliment.

Oh I'm sure he does. In the same way that that kid in the fourth grade would eat paste and then laugh when the girls would tell him how gross he was.

If he wants to make a career out of eating paste, that's fine with me. I just wish he'd leave the Holocaust alone, and stick to showing us all how darn cool gangsters, prostitutes and drug dealers are.

zoony
October-7th-2008, 01:29 PM
You might want to review that film on cable tonight.... I can rattle off nine guys who died violently in that film and I haven't seen it in a decade.

(1) The guy with the TASTEE burger and his two buddies.
(2) Vince machine gunned in the toilet.
(3) Zedd, The redneck, and maybe the gimp.
(4) The guy bruce willis killed in the ring.
(5) The guy who's brains they were picking out of the back seat of the car.

I must also say the anal rape sceen involving Ving Rames was among the more shocking and disturbing scenes in modern cinomotography. That was probable worse than the murders.



You're right, I forgot about the opening scene and Marvin.

But you're wrong about the redneck and the gimp. They're fates were undetermined. And (4) doesn't count either, because it was simply discussed, never shown.


despite your post, my point remains. We have a body count of 5. Compare it to say, Rambo.

#98QBKiller
October-7th-2008, 01:35 PM
despite your post, my point remains. We have a body count of 5. Compare it to say, Rambo.

A low body count still doesn't make it "not violent."

The rape scene, the OD scene, the fight scene, cleaning brains/blood out of the back of a car, etc. all still make it a violent movie.

zoony
October-7th-2008, 01:37 PM
A low body count still doesn't make it "not violent."

The rape scene, the OD scene, the fight scene, cleaning brains/blood out of the back of a car, etc. all still make it a violent movie.


That's because the violence he has, he does well :)

#98QBKiller
October-7th-2008, 01:43 PM
That's because the violence he has, he does well :)


I don't think anyone can argue that one

Prosperity
October-7th-2008, 05:32 PM
The reason? - Because his movies are NOT violent. It's just that he does violence very well. (this was an interview done around the time of Pulp Fiction, not Kill Bill, lol). Anyways- I think there was only 1 person that died in Pulp Fiction... and there were a few fist fights.

you must have seen the lifetime version, the black mob guy was getting raped, literally that's pretty violent

it's true that he does violence better, but violence is also a more central component of the movie

Kill Bills are both ultra violent
True Romance is not THAT violent, but still lots of people die
that car movie was very violent as well