Sapp on NFL Gameday: "Portis not a good teammate"

[RonBurgundy&Gold]

Watching NFL Gameday this morning on NFLN, they were discussing the addition of Shaun Alexander. When the host asked Sapp whether or not Portis was good teammate or not, he said "No, but he'll help you win on Sunday. You might not wanna hang out with him after the game, but he'll help you win" Something of that nature.

I'm pretty sure Sapp has never been a teammate of Clinton Portis. Sure there is the U affiliation but they never played with one another on the same team. Do you think this is Sapp talking for the sake of talking like he appears to do so frequently, or do you think he knows some things that we the fans dont know?

[benskins26]

He doesn't know ****. It's WArren Sapp, being the thug punk that he is.

[SMOSS89]

If only there were a way to get that to Portis before this game starts......

[Peytskins47]

I am pretty sure he is talking out of his ass like usual. He played the game too long and his playing career lost some of its luster. Now he has to talk like he actually knows something to make himself look better.

[Chachie]

That may have been a reference to the college days or perhaps even to the Clinton Portis pre-Joe Gibbs. I have no reference on what warren is saying but it sure looks as though CP has matured in the last 3-4 seasons to become not only an awesome on-field teammate but a mellower, more cerebral teammate in practice and for the coaches. Portis may have been a late-bloomer when it came to things outside the running game and so Sapp may have had a point if he was referring to that. If Sapp is talking about the Clinton Portis of 2008, he's out of his mind.

[BoomMeetLL]

Talking for the sake of talking. I went to the rams game, and was directly behind the skins bench (dream seats, first row etc..) and clinton was a team player more than i imagined. After every series he would go high five and thank his O line, he would talk to JC and get on the same page...clinton is def. a team player..

[kleese]

I'll defer to Sapp here a bit. Even though they didn't play at the same time, I'm sure they have many common friends, acquantances, etc.. Let's face it, CP has a BIG mouth, even when he's spouting the truth, and I think it was very clear that he upset the OL early this season with his comments.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if CP wasn't exactly Mr. Popular behind closed doors. Having said that, I do think his teammates respect the way he plays.

[Fergasun]

I remember this one time I was hanging with Clinton and we got in some trouble. He was supposed to have my back, but instead it was "dollah bill!". You never know who you will hang with when you go out after the game... Sheriff Gonna Getcha just kills all the mojo...

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

It's ironic that I'm hearing this from a guy that has been called a douchebag by the majority of people that have worked with him on "Dancing with the Stars" :doh:

[Sweet Sassy Molassy]

I feel like he was talking out the side of his neck. He said from what he's heard from other guys. But CP has always seemed to be a favorite teammate of all the guys on our team.

[Friend of the Devil]

the nfl networks crew is awful. they are the people no one else would sign. jamie dukes , rod woodson, sapp and eisen all get on my nerves and often say things that are completely retarded. that blond girl they have on during gameday reads directly off the teleprompter. she is very attractive but very confused.

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

Rod Woodson is good. But James Dukes and Sapp are two loud punks.

[corrupt3d]

It's ironic that I'm hearing this from a guy that has been called a douchebag by the majority of people that have worked with him on "Dancing with the Stars" :doh:



that. Seeing Portis' friendships with the rest of the team, I highly doubt he's a terrible teammate. And he's not a primadonna like Chad, TO, etc

[BigRedskinDaddy]

Who knows and who cares. NFL Network has to be sensational just like every other quote-unquote "news" program on TV these days. It certainly doesn't hurt when their "expert" analysts make statements like that.

We know who CP is, and what he does for this team. 'Nuff said.

[Blondie]

CP gives his ALL every game......and more than once has carried this team on his back. THAT alone, makes him a good teammate. HE WANTS THIS TEAM TO WIN.

And there are guys who hang out with him, and those that do not. THAT is not going to be any different on any team. He doesn't have to be host to the team to be a good teammate.

I don't like SAPP as a commentator......nor did I like him as a player.

His commentary carries no weight as far as I am concerned.

[benskins26]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if CP wasn't exactly Mr. Popular behind closed doors. Having said that, I do think his teammates respect the way he plays.

Having played sports my whole life, that's all that matters. You're not always best friends with your teammates, but if you know you can rely on them, then you don't really care.

[kleese]

CP reminds me a bit of Riggins...both on and off the field.

Riggo rubbed teammates the wrong way quite a bit....he was a notoriously poor practice player, who was often accussed of loafing. Might not be a big deal, but if you're an offensive guard busting your tail in practice, and you see Riggo show up to work hungover and not ready to practice, it might irk you a bit. Sure, Riggo was able to make up for it with his performance on Sunday, but it still probably didn't sit well with many of his teammates.

CP whined and cried about having to play in pre-season, and he kind of threw the coaching staff under the bus when he got hurt in that Bengals game. But what choice did they have? They can't sit all 22 starters for every snap of the pre-season games. I'm sure many teammates agreed with his general assetion that pre-season was stupid, but probably didn't like how he was putting himself on an island in that regard.

Then, the one thing that REALLY bothered me was when he threw Gibbs under the bus in that infamous radio interview after the 2006 season. Much of what he said was 100% correct, but it showed a lot of disrespect to Gibbs...that probably didn't sit well with his teammates either,

Portis brings it on Sunday....he's a beast....in the end, that's all I really care about. But no, I wouldn't be surprised if he ruffled some feathers in the lockeroom.

[benskins26]

His commentary carries no weight as far as I am concerned.

Yeah, all his weight is in his gut.

[herb mul-key]

Talking for the sake of talking. I went to the rams game, and was directly behind the skins bench (dream seats, first row etc..) and clinton was a team player more than i imagined. After every series he would go high five and thank his O line, he would talk to JC and get on the same page...clinton is def. a team player..

good info

[Park City Skins]

:yawnee: Whatever. It would be a reach,imho, to think that everyone on any football team,(or any sports team for that matter), is going to get along,hang out, and be friends and such. It's quite possible that there are a few who don't like C.P. all that much and it may be those guys who Sapp is referencing. Which makes this statement by Sapp careless at best. Being that personal likes or dislikes are personal and don't,(by themselves),make one a good or bad teammate.

[Mad Mike]

I've said it for years. I love the way CP plays. But his mouth and his childish reactions to adversity are a liability. When he got injured in preseason because HE decided to try to put a giant hit on someone in a meaningless game, he threw Joe Gibbs under the bus. That was total BS. He's quick to point fingers at others. That is NOT being a good teammate.

And don't get me started on his stupid characters. Every time he pulls that stunt he looks and sounds like he's mentally "challenged" (to use a polite term). It's embarrassing. :doh:

[Vi]

I've never seen anything to imply that's the case. What reasoning did he have? I mean, I don't doubt that Clinton has ruffled some feathers (he has a bit of a big mouth, sure) but he plays at 100% and seems to generally have a good relationship with his teammates. Being outspoken and being a bad teammate are two totally different things.

[Blondie]

I see many talking about CP and his previous behaviors.

But all of those things that are said he did, is the FANS perception of the situation.

If he were not a good teammate, I believe we would hear it. I KNOW I would hear it.

Never, have I heard anything about there being anything but solid relationships there.

[United_Caps_Skins_Fan]

Who knows and who cares. NFL Network has to be sensational just like every other quote-unquote "news" program on TV these days. It certainly doesn't hurt when their "expert" analysts make statements like that.

We know who CP is, and what he does for this team. 'Nuff said.

What he said.

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

I've never seen anything to imply that's the case. What reasoning did he have? I mean, I don't doubt that Clinton has ruffled some feathers (he has a bit of a big mouth, sure) but he plays at 100% and seems to generally have a good relationship with his teammates. Being outspoken and being a bad teammate are two totally different things.

None of these Miami U guys are great teammates. Taylor, Portis and Moss were great players. But you don't get Miami players if you want a pure team like the Patriots. They are individual cats. Thats how they grew up in Miami during that era. Its the U and everyone else.

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

I see many talking about CP and his previous behaviors.

But all of those things that are said he did, is the FANS perception of the situation.

If he were not a good teammate, I believe we would hear it. I KNOW I would hear it.

Never, have I heard anything about there being anything but solid relationships there.


LOL. We do hear it. The athletes talk behind the scenes. Its in the papers. Veterans on the team don't take him seriously.

There were articls about veterans blaming Gibbs for letting Portis skip pratices and act up.

The man can play and help you win games. But he acts up too much. He even admitted on the John Thompson show he has taken football more seriously this year.

[laurent]

Not saying this because of the Portis comment, but those jocks are making this NFL Gameday show pretty hard to watch. Faulk is ok and seems to be the only one of the three with even a hint of professionalism, but Sapp and Deion are just awful.

Both of them are incoherent mumbling fools that bring absolutely nothing to the table.

[DieselPwr44]

Riggo rubbed teammates the wrong way quite a bit....he was a notoriously poor practice player, who was often accussed of loafing. Might not be a big deal, but if you're an offensive guard busting your tail in practice, and you see Riggo show up to work hungover and not ready to practice, it might irk you a bit. Sure, Riggo was able to make up for it with his performance on Sunday, but it still probably didn't sit well with many of his teammates.

Yeah, it irked his teammates so much that they all joined the 5 o'clock club out at the maintenance shed and drank beer after practice. :rolleyes:

[Park City Skins]

None of these Miami U guys are great teammates. Taylor, Portis and Moss were great players. But you don't get Miami players if you want a pure team like the Patriots. They are individual cats. Thats how they grew up in Miami during that era. Its the U and everyone else.
Yeah. Pure teams like the Patriots would never draft guys like Vince Wilfork,Brandon Meriweather, or anyone else from Miami...oh wait.

[HailGreen28]

How is not wanting to play in pre-season, throwing the coaching staff under the bus?

Link to the radio interview you're talking about, please.



CP reminds me a bit of Riggins...both on and off the field.

Riggo rubbed teammates the wrong way quite a bit....he was a notoriously poor practice player, who was often accussed of loafing. Might not be a big deal, but if you're an offensive guard busting your tail in practice, and you see Riggo show up to work hungover and not ready to practice, it might irk you a bit. Sure, Riggo was able to make up for it with his performance on Sunday, but it still probably didn't sit well with many of his teammates.

CP whined and cried about having to play in pre-season, and he kind of threw the coaching staff under the bus when he got hurt in that Bengals game. But what choice did they have? They can't sit all 22 starters for every snap of the pre-season games. I'm sure many teammates agreed with his general assetion that pre-season was stupid, but probably didn't like how he was putting himself on an island in that regard.

Then, the one thing that REALLY bothered me was when he threw Gibbs under the bus in that infamous radio interview after the 2006 season. Much of what he said was 100% correct, but it showed a lot of disrespect to Gibbs...that probably didn't sit well with his teammates either,

Portis brings it on Sunday....he's a beast....in the end, that's all I really care about. But no, I wouldn't be surprised if he ruffled some feathers in the lockeroom.

[Blondie]

LOL. We do hear it. The athletes talk behind the scenes. Its in the papers. Veterans on the team don't take him seriously.

There were articls about veterans blaming Gibbs for letting Portis skip pratices and act up.

The man can play and help you win games. But he acts up too much. He even admitted on the John Thompson show he has taken football more seriously this year.

Yep.

In the papers. And we ALL know that the media NEVER tries to put a spin on anything.

Yes, CP has definitely become more serious. THAT has NOTHING to do with him being a good teammate.

[HailGreen28]

I kinda remember the last interview that Portis had with B-ITCHELL and John Thompson. But thought he was talking about working hard in training, which is Portis' rep anyways. CP hates preseason, but isn't his main objection to OTA and voluntary workouts is that he and a bunch of guys from "the U" like to workout together during that time?

Please refresh my memory, what interviews (radio and newspaper) are you talking about?



LOL. We do hear it. The athletes talk behind the scenes. Its in the papers. Veterans on the team don't take him seriously.

There were articls about veterans blaming Gibbs for letting Portis skip pratices and act up.

The man can play and help you win games. But he acts up too much. He even admitted on the John Thompson show he has taken football more seriously this year.

[Hitman#21]

He was talking dumb the entire show. He said Roy Williams is horrible on todays show he picked the raiders!

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

Yep.

In the papers. And we ALL know that the media NEVER tries to put a spin on anything.

Yes, CP has definitely become more serious. THAT has NOTHING to do with him being a good teammate.


He is a clown. He thinks because Joe Gibbs said THIS is going to be a WAR. The toughest team will win! He thinks that means Gibbs wants the game to be close.

That is the dumbest thinking i have ever heard. Every old school coach talks like that. It does not mean in the back of their mind they don't want a blow out.

If you say we are going to win this 35-3 gentlemen. If the game is tougher then you players will be like WTF? That is why coaches say get your chin straps ready. This is going to be tough one.

He is so immature that he threw Gibbs under the bus over coach speak.


So if you talking about winning games? Portis brings it. If you are talking about being a good teammate . No he is not.

[Who Del]

Why does the media always portray Portis as a malcontent and a douchebag to his teammates? I don't get it. The dude seems like the most chill player on the team.

Sapp is fat.

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

I kinda remember the last interview that Portis had with B-ITCHELL and John Thompson. But thought he was talking about working hard in training, which is Portis' rep anyways. CP hates preseason, but isn't his main objection to OTA and voluntary workouts is that he and a bunch of guys from "the U" like to workout together during that time?

Please refresh my memory, what interviews (radio and newspaper) are you talking about?


Portis last show said he always tried to get out of Tuesday - Saturday. Now he likes it. He talked about how teammates were shocked he was lifting weights and running this summer. If teammates were shocked you are in these pratices and you are training you were not a good teammate before.

[eljeasel]

Hmm, I dont remember anyone on the team saying anything negative about CP. In fact, the only time ive heard something negative its come from those always reliable "sources".

I remember earlier this year, when the media was trying to get Campbell to say something that they could use to create controversy. CP stepped in and just defused the entire interview with humor.

Even this week, when they brought in SA, all he was saying was 100% positive stuff.

I can remember a bunch of interviews and such were him, Samuels, and Randy Thomas were just kicking it around Redskins park. CP not a good teamate? His teamates seem to disagree

[HailGreen28]

Portis last show said he always tried to get out of Tuesday - Saturday. Now he likes it. He talked about how teammates were shocked he was lifting weights and running this summer. If teammates were shocked you are in these pratices and you are training you were not a good teammate before.Last John Thompson show I heard was the one B-ITCHELL and Portis got into it. Can you give me a link to the show you're talking about?

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

Hmm, I dont remember anyone on the team saying anything negative about CP. In fact, the only time ive heard something negative its come from those always reliable "sources".

I remember earlier this year, when the media was trying to get Campbell to say something that they could use to create controversy. CP stepped in and just defused the entire interview with humor.

Even this week, when they brought in SA, all he was saying was 100% positive stuff.

I can remember a bunch of interviews and such were him, Samuels, and Randy Thomas were just kicking it around Redskins park. CP not a good teamate? His teamates seem to disagree


OF COURSE YOU WILL not hear about other teammates saying anything negative about him. Other teammates have class. And won't publically insult a guy. If other teammates called out Portis in public there would be doing the same thing he does. So it would defeat the purpose of their fustrations .

[terpfan]

That's kind of a ****ed up thing to say about someone if you dont know it first hand.

[MartinC]

Well Sap would know all about that!

[MustangSteve]

He was kidding right? It's obvious they will let anyone be an analyst these days.

[eljeasel]

OF COURSE YOU WILL not hear about other teammates saying anything negative about him. Other teammates have class. And won't publically insult a guy. If other teammates called out Portis in public there would be doing the same thing he does. So it would defeat the purpose of their fustrations .

"Absense of evidence is not the evidence of absense"

Right. It would the defeat the purpose of their frustrations?

[cubanl81]

Sapp is a joke. He gets more annoying every week. I don't even listen to him anymore.

[benskins26]

Did anyone see the Mayne Report? The debate moderator from the other night was being interviewed, and he ended it with a Go Redskins. Awesome.

[Vi]

None of these Miami U guys are great teammates. Taylor, Portis and Moss were great players. But you don't get Miami players if you want a pure team like the Patriots. They are individual cats. Thats how they grew up in Miami during that era. Its the U and everyone else.

There is a U mentality, sure, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing like you do. Portis, Moss and certainly Taylor are individualistic sort of people, yeah, but that doesn't make them bad teammates. All three of them are phenoms as athletes and workhorses who play at 100%. Hell, Rocky is a U-boy too and he just goes out there and plays his heart out with almost no media exposure.

And the Patriots have fallen pretty far without Tom Brady for a pure team, if you ask me.

[BAFGA]

Watching NFL Gameday this morning on NFLN, they were discussing the addition of Shaun Alexander. When the host asked Sapp whether or not Portis was good teammate or not, he said "No, but he'll help you win on Sunday. You might not wanna hang out with him after the game, but he'll help you win" Something of that nature.

I'm pretty sure Sapp has never been a teammate of Clinton Portis. Sure there is the U affiliation but they never played with one another on the same team. Do you think this is Sapp talking for the sake of talking like he appears to do so frequently, or do you think he knows some things that we the fans dont know?

I heard this live, and I thought he was sincere in his opinion. Didn't bother me, as long as he performs on gameday.

[Blondie]

LOL. We do hear it. The athletes talk behind the scenes. Its in the papers. Veterans on the team don't take him seriously.

There were articls about veterans blaming Gibbs for letting Portis skip pratices and act up.

The man can play and help you win games. But he acts up too much. He even admitted on the John Thompson show he has taken football more seriously this year.



OF COURSE YOU WILL not hear about other teammates saying anything negative about him. Other teammates have class. And won't publically insult a guy. If other teammates called out Portis in public there would be doing the same thing he does. So it would defeat the purpose of their fustrations .


I know double talk when I see it.


http://images.exoticindiaart.com/books/double_talk_ide671sm.jpg

[TMat184]

Who's to say Sapp is wrong?? None of us here know Portis personally. I really don't give a damn as long as he's productive and helping us win games.

[iMeast]

Warren Sapp is talking out of his butt again ... surprise, surprise. :brownsuck

HTTR

[Blondie]

Who's to say Sapp is wrong?? None of us here know Portis personally. I really don't give a damn as long as he's productive and helping us win games.

Uh.

I do.

[Xero21]

How in the hell would he know?

I mean if he had been on Portis's team and he said this it would be one thing but he hasn't.

[skinfan2k]

Comeon guys, JoeGibbsRypienClark gets all his news from SportsTalk980, as evident with his multiple threads about it

[BAFGA]

Sapp also said, "The more you you diss C.P., the better he performs" or something to that effect. I wouldn't say it was a total Sapp slam.

It's funny, when I heard that, I thought to myself, "The message board is going to go off on this one...that is if anyone watches NFL Network." What do I see on here? A 50 post thread on the subject.

[eljeasel]

I know double talk when I see it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA:rotflmao:

[eljeasel]

Sapp also said, "The more you you diss C.P., the better he performs" or something to that effect. I wouldn't say it was a total Sapp slam.

He did end his segment with "Cmon CP I need another 150 from you in fantasy"

Maybe he was just trying to win this fantasy match up this week?

[Blue Collar Skins]

Do you think this is Sapp talking for the sake of talking like he appears to do so frequently, or do you think he knows some things that we the fans dont know?He is talking out of the wrong orifice.

[TMat184]

Uh.

I do.

In how in depth of a way? I'm not at all being critical of you as I'm ignorant to your level of relationship with Clinton, perhaps you could shed some light on the issue.....

[BAFGA]

In how in depth of a way? I'm not at all being critical of you as I'm ignorant to your level of relationship with Clinton, perhaps you could shed some light on the issue.....

:munchout: This could get interesting.

[TMat184]

It's difficult to get 5 men together without some rubbing each other the wrong way let alone 53. I wouldn't be surprised if many in the Denver locker room especially (early in his career) had a deragetory view of Clinton as a teammate, perhaps those are the folks Sapp has spoke with. Again, I don't know enough to come out and say that Sapp is completely wrong and talking out of his ass.

[Blondie]

In how in depth of a way? I'm not at all being critical of you as I'm ignorant to your level of relationship with Clinton, perhaps you could shed some light on the issue.....


:munchout: This could get interesting.

I am friends with several in the REDSKIN organization..players and others.......and really close with Rock.

I talk to several of them several times a week.

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

I am friends with several in the REDSKIN organization..players and others.......and really close with Rock.

I talk to several of them several times a week.


And i am sure they talk to you like they talk to the boys.

[Darth Tater]

LOL. We do hear it. The athletes talk behind the scenes. Its in the papers. Veterans on the team don't take him seriously.

There were articls about veterans blaming Gibbs for letting Portis skip pratices and act up.

The man can play and help you win games. But he acts up too much. He even admitted on the John Thompson show he has taken football more seriously this year.
But a man who can help you achieve your goals is by definition a good teammate. Being a good teammate (or a good fellow employee) has nothing to do with any ones opinions or complaints.

[Blondie]

And i am sure they talk to you like they talk to the boys.

Sigh.

Ya know. You have made some really strange comments at times.

But THIS one tops them all.

Don't you think they would tell me MORE of the TRUE thoughts they have about the happenings? Not worried about any reporter getting it?

[Darth Tater]

He is a clown. He thinks because Joe Gibbs said THIS is going to be a WAR. The toughest team will win! He thinks that means Gibbs wants the game to be close.

That is the dumbest thinking i have ever heard. Every old school coach talks like that. It does not mean in the back of their mind they don't want a blow out.

If you say we are going to win this 35-3 gentlemen. If the game is tougher then you players will be like WTF? That is why coaches say get your chin straps ready. This is going to be tough one.

He is so immature that he threw Gibbs under the bus over coach speak.


So if you talking about winning games? Portis brings it. If you are talking about being a good teammate . No he is not.

Um, a good teammate IS the one who helps you achieve team goals.

[BAFGA]

Sigh.

Ya know. You have made some really strange comments at times.

But THIS one tops them all.

Don't you think they would tell me MORE of the TRUE thoughts they have about the happenings? Not worried about any reporter getting it?

That's a good point. Never thought of that one.

Never realized you were that close to some of the players.

[TMat184]

I am friends with several in the REDSKIN organization..players and others.......and really close with Rock.

I talk to several of them several times a week.

Oh ok cool! You certainly have ground to stand on then and I appreciate you being able to refute charges such as these.....Sapp was just voicing his opinion and I'm sure others (even some that have played with Clinton) probably feel the same way...With that being said, you could probably go around to 99% of players in the league and find someone who played with them that would say said player was "not a good teammate".

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

Sigh.

Ya know. You have made some really strange comments at times.

But THIS one tops them all.

Don't you think they would tell me MORE of the TRUE thoughts they have about the happenings? Not worried about any reporter getting it?


What would they tell a fan for? Do you think players tell fans anything? Fans post on message boards. Talk on cell phones. Call sports radio shows. Spread what they heard to other fans. Players tell other players things. They tell media guys things because they have formed relationships with them and they know their comments won't be spread because of writer privlages.

I know you have seniority on this board. But you are really saying some dumb things. Do you think any player will tell a fan something when a fan could go on a message board and start a thread. John Jansen said Portis is overrated.

They don't know you. Do you know why players talk to the media. They want to their fustrations to be put in public without their name attached to it.

Portis has said himself that players were jealous of Moss and himselfs special treatment from Gibbs. This was just in 06. So how the hell are you going to tell me crap when i heard it right from the mouth of Portis. I don't care about your senority. You don't a damn thing.

[Monte51Coleman]

And i am sure they talk to you like they talk to the boys.

And you post your opinion as if it's fact.

You've got nothing other than a personal distain for CP's personality, and apparently that of all UM players.

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

And you post your opinion as if it's fact.

You've got nothing other than a personal distain for CP's personality, and apparently that of all UM players.


If you think the players tell Rock Cartwrights fan friend things they won't tell a beat reporter when they know the beat reporter can't attach the name to the player and a fan is not bound by the same confidential rules then i got some beach front housing in rockville i have to sell you.

[Park City Skins]

Dumb things said on this thread. Hmmmm. A few examples.


None of these Miami U guys are great teammates. Taylor, Portis and Moss were great players. But you don't get Miami players if you want a pure team like the Patriots. They are individual cats. Thats how they grew up in Miami during that era. Its the U and everyone else.


LOL. We do hear it. The athletes talk behind the scenes. Its in the papers. Veterans on the team don't take him seriously.

There were articls about veterans blaming Gibbs for letting Portis skip pratices and act up.

The man can play and help you win games. But he acts up too much. He even admitted on the John Thompson show he has taken football more seriously this year.


OF COURSE YOU WILL not hear about other teammates saying anything negative about him. Other teammates have class. And won't publically insult a guy. If other teammates called out Portis in public there would be doing the same thing he does. So it would defeat the purpose of their fustrations .

[eljeasel]

1. John Jansen said Portis is overrated.

2. Do you know why players talk to the media. They want to their fustrations to be put in public without their name attached to it.

3. Portis has said himself that players were jealous of Moss and himselfs special treatment from Gibbs. This was just in 06. So how the hell are you going to tell me crap when i heard it right from the mouth of Portis. I don't care about your senority. You don't a damn thing.

I dont remember 1. Tell me where you heard/saw that

2. So a player who says something anonymously is a better teamate than one who says it publicly? Of course, thats if its at all true and isnt just conjecture made up by a sports writer

3. I dont remember this one either, whered you hear this one.

[skinfan2k]

If you think the players tell Rock Cartwrights fan friend things they won't tell a beat reporter when they know the beat reporter can't attach the name to the player and a fan is not bound by the same confidential rules then i got some beach front housing in rockville i have to sell you.

She is not a fan friend. She has known him before he was drafted by the skins. :doh:

[Darth Tater]

In how in depth of a way? I'm not at all being critical of you as I'm ignorant to your level of relationship with Clinton, perhaps you could shed some light on the issue.....
I don't know her level of relationship but the simple evidence does NOT support Sapp's claim. I have yet to hear one person say anything but that Portis helps win games and that is the only thing that defines whether on is a good teammate or not. We know that CP has provided key leadership in two different runs to the playoffs. This year, since CP said some negative things about the o-line, he's been getting over 5 yards per carry through some very big holes, and a huge key to wins over Dallas and Philly was TOP that, at least in part, were on CP. Again, helping the team achieve it goal (winning game) is the only thing that counts when you are discussing is one is a good teammate or not.

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

Dumb things said on this thread. Hmmmm. A few examples.


That is your opinion. Senority on this board can excuse dumb comments.

Any educated person could tell you how newspaper writers and beat reporters can get inside information on peoples feelings. People want their feelings out to the public without having their name attached to it. It happens in poltics , news, sports and every walk of life.

[Monte51Coleman]

If you think the players tell Rock Cartwrights fan friend things they won't tell a beat reporter when they know the beat reporter can't attach the name to the player and a fan is not bound by the same confidential rules then i got some beach front housing in rockville i have to sell you.

Nice try. You ignored my point.

You post your opinions as facts. I'll list examples if you'd like. I think you're either just a Portis hater, a UM hater, or most likely both.

Which is it?

[Blondie]

What would they tell a fan for? Do you think players tell fans anything? Fans post on message boards. Talk on cell phones. Call sports radio shows. Spread what they heard to other fans. Players tell other players things. They tell media guys things because they have formed relationships with them and they know their comments won't be spread because of writer privlages.

I know you have seniority on this board. But you are really saying some dumb things. Do you think any player will tell a fan something when a fan could go on a message board and start a thread. John Jansen said Portis is overrated.


They don't know you. Do you know why players talk to the media. They want to their fustrations to be put in public without their name attached to it.

Portis has said himself that players were jealous of Moss and himselfs special treatment from Gibbs. This was just in 06. So how the hell are you going to tell me crap when i heard it right from the mouth of Portis. I don't care about your senority. You don't a damn thing.

You really don't have a clue do you?

I mean really.

I am beginning to feel badly for you now.

You just keep opening your mouth and making yourself look clueless.

If you finally get a clue, contact me.

I will try this again........and will even type slower for you.

[TK]

Warren Sapp is talking out of his butt again ... surprise, surprise. :brownsuck

HTTR
So is JoeGibbsRypenGClark91.


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/Pandabonium/slide/GomerPyle.jpg
Surprise, surprise, surprise!

[Park City Skins]

That is your opinion. Senority on this board can excuse dumb comments.

Any educated person could tell you how newspaper writers and beat reporters can get inside information on peoples feelings. People want their feelings out to the public without having their name attached to it. It happens in poltics , news, sports and every walk of life.
Senority obviously has nothing to do with anything. The quotes I provided are a shining example of that. First one because the Patriots do in fact, have former Miami players on their team and even starting. The second two speak for themselves. Subsequent posts by you since then, have demonstrated this even more. And others have told you why. Now if I were you, I'd stop while you're still way behind. For reasons already given.

[Califan007]

http://cache.deadspin.com/sports/portisandfriends.jpg

Oh, yeah, it's pretty obvious that Clinton Portis' teammates don't really like the guy at all.

[HailGreen28]

Any educated person can tell you how things get distorted by writers and reporters as well. In politics, sports, and every walk of life.

Ever been at a local sporting event, or some issue with the county board, or any organization in the press, participated with and known the people involved? Then read in the local paper where OK they got the gist of it right, but that's not quite how it happened?

I figure two things:

1. A story can change with each telling. For example: If you could go to the line at the theater box office and tell someone in front of the line a story. If each person in line would repeat the story to the person behind them, the longer the line was, the more different the story would be.

2. Personal bias.

Anyways, I'd like a link to any interviews, radio or paper, you're talking about. When you have time. At least to hear or read the re-telling myself.



That is your opinion. Senority on this board can excuse dumb comments.

Any educated person could tell you how newspaper writers and beat reporters can get inside information on peoples feelings. People want their feelings out to the public without having their name attached to it. It happens in poltics , news, sports and every walk of life.

[S.TaylorMade]

He doesn't know ****. It's WArren Sapp, being the thug punk that he is.

lol... i laughed so hard at this...

i've hated Sapp ever since he took out that Packers lineman from behind on a play that was already over... cheapest shot i've ever seen

[TMat184]

Again, helping the team achieve it goal (winning game) is the only thing that counts when you are discussing is one is a good teammate or not.

That is obviously your definition of a good teammate and while I'm not saying your wrong, I'll certainly say that really is a very broad definition. I'll use TO as an example (keep in mind I'm not comparing CP to TO). The Eagles for example, were an extremely successful team when TO was there and no one questions his commitment to being the best player he can be....During the game I'd certainly say he gives his all to help the team win games. Now is TO a good teammate? That is up for debate....You can give your all on Sunday to help the team win but if your throwing teammates under the bus and bitching and moaning in the Media Mon-Sat you don't qualify as a "good teammate" IMO.

[Papabear]

It's ironic that I'm hearing this from a guy that has been called a douchebag by the majority of people that have worked with him on "Dancing with the Stars" :doh:

Don't forget ExtremeSkins. ;)

[3TIMECHAMPS]

Dumbest thing I've heard in quite some time.

[RenegadeTK]

ridiculous... when i hear it from a redskin, ill believe it

[turbodiesel#44]

None of these Miami U guys are great teammates. Taylor, Portis and Moss were great players. But you don't get Miami players if you want a pure team like the Patriots. They are individual cats. Thats how they grew up in Miami during that era. Its the U and everyone else.
How does a 12 year old know these things?

[SkinsMaster88]

Honestly, I don't care what Sapp has to say about Portis as a teammate, since he never played with him. Just another statement to stir up controversy...stupid media.

[txkid]

Sapp spent most of his career with awful teams.

[Siven]

Sapp spent most of his career with awful teams.

Being consistently awesome.

And putting a superbowl ring on his finger

[Rudechain]

Watching NFL Gameday this morning on NFLN, they were discussing the addition of Shaun Alexander. When the host asked Sapp whether or not Portis was good teammate or not, he said "No, but he'll help you win on Sunday. You might not wanna hang out with him after the game, but he'll help you win" Something of that nature.

I'm pretty sure Sapp has never been a teammate of Clinton Portis. Sure there is the U affiliation but they never played with one another on the same team. Do you think this is Sapp talking for the sake of talking like he appears to do so frequently, or do you think he knows some things that we the fans dont know?

This coming from the same guy that had his draft stock drop due to positive marijuana test and said bad things about both the Bucs and Raiders after he left.

Then "Dancing with the stars" talk came out that he was a bit of a prima donna.

No, I think Warren is just trying to fill some air time.

[JoeGibbsRypenGClark91]

This coming from the same guy that had his draft stock drop due to positive marijuana test and said bad things about both the Bucs and Raiders after he left.

Then "Dancing with the stars" talk came out that he was a bit of a prima donna.

No, I think Warren is just trying to fill some air time.


Wrong. He never had a positive test for marijuana. Chris Mortenson reported there were postiive test but it was proven false. Teams still passed on him. He never said bad things about the Bucs. And who does not say bad things about the Raiders?

[sellyoursol]

Sapp can kiss my azz. Portis IS the Washington Redskins right now.

[Riggins77]

He doesn't know ****. It's WArren Sapp, being the thug punk that he is. The last thing Warren Sapp is, is a thug. Call the guy an idiot if you will, but labeling him a thug is inaccurate.

[Rudechain]

He is a clown. He thinks because Joe Gibbs said THIS is going to be a WAR. The toughest team will win! He thinks that means Gibbs wants the game to be close.

That is the dumbest thinking i have ever heard. Every old school coach talks like that. It does not mean in the back of their mind they don't want a blow out.

If you say we are going to win this 35-3 gentlemen. If the game is tougher then you players will be like WTF? That is why coaches say get your chin straps ready. This is going to be tough one.

He is so immature that he threw Gibbs under the bus over coach speak.


So if you talking about winning games? Portis brings it. If you are talking about being a good teammate . No he is not.

:insane:

Please provide some proof other than conjecture and your obvious distorted opinion.

Otherwise, your just acting like a fool

[Rudechain]

OF COURSE YOU WILL not hear about other teammates saying anything negative about him. Other teammates have class. And won't publically insult a guy. If other teammates called out Portis in public there would be doing the same thing he does. So it would defeat the purpose of their fustrations .

That's awful convenient for you huh?

[Rudechain]

If you think the players tell Rock Cartwrights fan friend things they won't tell a beat reporter when they know the beat reporter can't attach the name to the player and a fan is not bound by the same confidential rules then i got some beach front housing in rockville i have to sell you.


and your opinion carries more weight?

Perhaps you should just work on clearing that brown ring off your neck.

[MoeRedskins]

people say the same thing about Warren Sapp

[Rudechain]

Wrong. He never had a positive test for marijuana. Chris Mortenson reported there were postiive test but it was proven false. Teams still passed on him. He never said bad things about the Bucs. And who does not say bad things about the Raiders?

ok, there was an inference to a positive test. That make you happy?

And it has been asked countless times and I will ask also.

Please provide these links.

first you said that vets have said Portis is a bad team mate, then you said they would not say it publicly.

Which is it?

I think you just have a bias. It's been proven in this thread that your mistaken several times. In particular when you said the Pats would not have Miami players.

Time for you to clean that brown ring off your neck.

[LizSkins]

Is he like out the league?

Who cares what he has to say!

[Rudechain]

Wrong. He never had a positive test for marijuana. Chris Mortenson reported there were postiive test but it was proven false. Teams still passed on him. He never said bad things about the Bucs. And who does not say bad things about the Raiders?



Funny. did a little checking and come to find out that he has failed drug tests

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE6DD1738F937A25750C0A9639582 60


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE0DF1239F936A15757C0A9639582 60


http://tech.mit.edu/V115/N20/NFLDraft.20s.html


so I guess your wrong.

edit:

just found another one. so all of these reports including the test at the NFL scouting combine are bogus huh?
http://www.nysun.com/sports/how-should-character-factor-into-nfl-draft/53010/

Still waiting on those links to Portis being a bad team mate.

[cphil006]

Sapp was never his teammate. I think Sapp jsut doesn't like his characters and costumes.

[Special K]

Uh yeah, never really liked Sapp anyway, and I don't give a rat's batootie what he has to say about the "teammate-ship/teammanship/whatever" of someone he hasn't been teammates with. I guess having attended the same college as Portis gives him authority to talk about Portis's abilities as a teammate...NOT.

I would expect to hear this kind of crap from someone who has no experience with team dynamics...not a professional athlete. Just goes to show this guy is an idiot. Anyone who's played team sports knows that being a good teammate and team leader is not about being buddies with everyone during practice and during games and having your teammates want to hang out with you afterward. I mean, that's just plain idiotic. Being a good teammate is working for the team win...helping pick up the slack when the team is dragging...giving it your all during a game and then some...ALL of which Portis has done during his time with the 'Skins. So Sapp, STFU.

[wysknz1]

I LAUGH What was Portis hired for!?!?!?! to win games!! not BE A BUDDY!!

[HailGreen28]

What is it with trashy retired NFL players taking shots at CP?

First B-ITCHELL. Now that fat tubby Sapp?

:whoknows:

[wysknz1]

Sapp fits his name he is a sapp

[PortisFan123]

Consider the source folks..:)

[wpenn1]

thats peculiar I remember watching Punked a couple of years ago and when they punked Sapp he was eating with Portis

[REEGSKINS]

i have spent some time around the team for the last 5 years and dont know if clinton is a bad teammate or not. what i do know is that he keeps to himself. a lot of the players hang in clicks the linebackers hang together, brunell would hang with rabach and jansen. many of the players hang with their positional buddies, but cp is a loner. i dont know much more than that, but that sure doesnt make him a bad teammate.

[#1Redskins]

What do you expect from that Chokeland Hater! If he doesn't kick it with C-Po, he doesn't know jack S$#% about him so he should keep his fat mouth closed and keep on talking about his former team owner, Al Davis.....

[Santana_89]

And Warren Sapp is revelant how?

HE IS NOT A REDSKINS.... NEVER HAS BEEN , NEVER WILL BE.

To the poster who said Jon Jansen said CP is overrated where's your proof?
Ya know the sayin about opinions and *******s.

[JohnnyUtah]

Talking for the sake of talking. I went to the rams game, and was directly behind the skins bench (dream seats, first row etc..) and clinton was a team player more than i imagined. After every series he would go high five and thank his O line, he would talk to JC and get on the same page...clinton is def. a team player..

I couldn't agree more with this. Clinton is my favorite player of all time and he always will be. Shut the **** up, Sapp

[Burgundy Burner]

warren has the right last name.

[skinsfan328]

F-SAPP!! Fat cheap shot taking mtfr..What the hell kind of teammate was he? Go back to Oakland where players go to die!!!:jerk: :finger:

[#21Taylor4Ever]

Whoa, whoa, whoa....Warren Sapp said this??

Oh...then it doesn't mean a ****in thing!

[Spade]

I actually thought Warren and Clinton were pretty good friends, they were on punked together and did Hungry Man comercials together. Maybe it's an inside thing between Clinton and Warren that we just don't know about.

[Mooka]

Some bad blood between Sapp and the Redskins.

I wouldn't listen to anything he has to say about our team.

[4thandGoal]

I'm almost certain I dont care unless it starts to take from his performance on the field, and his teammates. Heck, I dont like some of the people I work it either, but we get the job done.

[southskinsfan]

Sapp= Thug Gangsta

[cyfar]

Some of the reponses to Sapp in this thread are laughable. This may have been true, may have been tongue in cheek. In my opinion, when you see that way the guys pal around with CP and just his hard work and effort that he puts out on the field makes him a great leader and team mate. That's just my opinion, though.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Sapp is a fat sack of ****.

Portis might have tried to skip out on practices before and Gibbs might have let him get away with it as people here have noted.

But let's just wait a sec...Portis just turned 27 in September...and while some of you might have had life figured out at age 27 and been ultra mature and responsible, perhaps some of you weren't.

Portis has matured this year and he's reaping the benefits of it.

[kramdizzle]

thats the pot calling the kettle black. who cares what he says

[greenmile]

Sapp is a fat sack of ****.

Portis might have tried to skip out on practices before and Gibbs might have let him get away with it as people here have noted.

But let's just wait a sec...Portis just turned 27 in September...and while some of you might have had life figured out at age 27 and been ultra mature and responsible, perhaps some of you weren't.

Portis has matured this year and he's reaping the benefits of it.

Well, if "matured" means he stayed in the weight room because he got paid to do so, then yes, he "matured" this year.

[U C S D SkinsFan]

I hate Sapp and don't have any respect for what he says. I don't even find him entertaining. His mannerisms are even annoying. He wants to be the Charles Barkley of the NFL and that's not going to happen.

[Burgundy Burner]

That is your opinion. Senority on this board can excuse dumb comments.

That's quite an avatar that you are sporting. Not bad for your first month. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Skyeskye/ROFL.gif

[HOGnificent]

ever since i seen that clip of him wearing eye liner on that dancing show i cant ever take Sapp serious again...

[1972FAN]

They get these guys off the street?, they feel sorry for them because they can't land a job elseware after football? stick with cannon balls in the pool porky.

[corrupt3d]

That is your opinion. Senority on this board can excuse dumb comments.

Any educated person could tell you how newspaper writers and beat reporters can get inside information on peoples feelings. People want their feelings out to the public without having their name attached to it. It happens in poltics , news, sports and every walk of life.


So? We're winning and CP isn't blowing up the lockerroom. Hell when we were losing, he didnt blow up the lockerroom.


BTW, what color is your colon? I've always wanted to know.

[Spear]

As for their association, I seem to recall CP, Sapp, and Shockey being in the same Hungry Man commercial a year or two ago. But yeah, Warren is a *****.

[imaneaglesfan]

im not sure why sapp would be such a d-bag.. i thought they were friends. i remember years ago when sapp first moved 2oakland he was on that mtv show punk'd, and he was eating lunch with clinton and one other player that is escaping my memory right now.. just doesn't seem like something you would put out there about a friend.. even if it were true. i like clintons style and if we didnt have westy, clinton or adrian peterson would be my first replacement choices. doubt that means anything 2u guys but my two cents..

[westcoasthog]

You know what? Sapp can suck it. The guy was never half the teammate Portis is. Portis is the best in the NFL right now. Suck a @@@@ Sapp!

[Special K]

That's quite an avatar that you are sporting. Not bad for your first month. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Skyeskye/ROFL.gif
Yeah, I noticed those "stats" too...hysterical.

[FrFan]

I'm very happy with this --->http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80bc4140

[Stonoman]

Sapp is just that!!!

[Mister Mean]

Portis great player - this year so far

Portis is a me first person

How does this classify as news? Its not, everyone knows this, like everyone knows you will get banned from here if you hurt the wittle mod/s feawins.

[sith lord]

I'll defer to Sapp here a bit. Even though they didn't play at the same time, I'm sure they have many common friends, acquantances, etc.. Let's face it, CP has a BIG mouth, even when he's spouting the truth, and I think it was very clear that he upset the OL early this season with his comments.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if CP wasn't exactly Mr. Popular behind closed doors. Having said that, I do think his teammates respect the way he plays.

That's what I'm thinking.

[chow184]

this is warren sapp we're talking about


the same warren sapp that has rumors swirling all over about him being a complete ass**** to everyone on dancing with the stars behind the scenes,because he has a drama queen personality.

if it was a respected skins player saying it about portis,I'd take notice.
when it's that fat PoS,you have to check your sources.

Portis and Fletcher walked off the field into the locker room looking happy as heck. I'd guess Fletcher is a good teammate,and he and portis looked happy?

[SkinsFanMania]

Whether Portis is or isn't a good teamate, Sapp has no business talking about Portis this way. It isn't like Sapp was such a choir boy.

[rocnrik]

Sapp would be better suited getting involved in pro wrestling..he reminds me of Abdulla the butcher with those bulging eyes..:silly::D

[Rocky21]

Warren Sapp absolutely ruins that NFL network show for me. Can't stand 'im.

[Die Hard]

I guess no one read the article on ESPN.com this morning about Portis by Matt MOsely:

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-4-138/Portis-credits-Redskins--win-to--team-ball-.html?lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1

"When the Colts won the Super Bowl two years ago, Portis said he traveled to Puerto Rico with a lot of their players. He said he felt like such an outsider that he cut his vacation short and headed back home."

So perhaps there are some meat on those bones.

[Cambl2Moss]

Watching NFL Gameday this morning on NFLN, they were discussing the addition of Shaun Alexander. When the host asked Sapp whether or not Portis was good teammate or not, he said "No, but he'll help you win on Sunday. You might not wanna hang out with him after the game, but he'll help you win" Something of that nature.

I'm pretty sure Sapp has never been a teammate of Clinton Portis. Sure there is the U affiliation but they never played with one another on the same team. Do you think this is Sapp talking for the sake of talking like he appears to do so frequently, or do you think he knows some things that we the fans dont know?

I actually have insider information (had drinks with him the other day) from a current Redskin that backed this up. Said that Portis runs the lockerroom, and is Snyders pet.

The Redskin agreed however, that its all about winning on Sundays, and Portis comes up big for the team when they need him.

Sapp is right on the money...

[Reaganaut]

Sapp is a loudmouth and he obviously heard what Brian Mitchell said about Portis. He's parroting this.

[scuppajones]

Screw Warren Sapp, he is a loudmouth bozo. CP is the man, and it sure seems like his team mates like him.

[Hunter_R]

Portis vindicated some of Sapps words with his little hissy-fit with Zorn.

[Skins Tailgate]

I would love for CP to be on my team!!!!!!

[Shilsu]

For what it's worth, there's an article in the Washington Post today about the offensive line vs Portis. It seems like that they were indeed miffed by Portis' comments after Game 1, but they are all professional.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/25/AR2008102501426.html

[REEGSKINS]

i think he was bitching about one of his lineman today and pete kendall was pointing in his face

[Hunter_R]

Kendall was whating in his face?

[sellyoursol]

Again, F Sapp. PORTIS IS THIS TEAM! How many of you were holding your breath when the "bad teammate" went down in the 4th? That could have been the season. Portis is the key, he opens everything else up.

[sellyoursol]

i think he was bitching about one of his lineman today and pete kendall was pointing in his face

I saw the play that you're talking about, Kendall stopped his push at about 10 yards and Portis ran into his back, pretty much ending the play. You could audibly hear Portis yell at him to get downfield and I don't think Kendall liked it too much. Portis was right though.

[brandymac27]

Portis vindicated some of Sapps words with his little hissy-fit with Zorn.


what happened with that? Was he really pissed b/c Shaun was playing more than him?

[sellyoursol]

I think it's pretty obvious that Portis doesn't like the idea that Alexander was brought in. i don't think he sees it as a threat, maybe more of a slight towards Cartwright?

[willyt]

I would like to take this opportunity to say, "**** You, Sapp!!"

Thank you.

[Frediemac]

Watching NFL Gameday this morning on NFLN, they were discussing the addition of Shaun Alexander. When the host asked Sapp whether or not Portis was good teammate or not, he said "No, but he'll help you win on Sunday. You might not wanna hang out with him after the game, but he'll help you win" Something of that nature.

I'm pretty sure Sapp has never been a teammate of Clinton Portis. Sure there is the U affiliation but they never played with one another on the same team. Do you think this is Sapp talking for the sake of talking like he appears to do so frequently, or do you think he knows some things that we the fans dont know?

TMZ reports that Sapp is a Jackoff on the show "Dancing with the Stars". Everybody on the show just can't stand him. Now that's the truth. What a f-in donkey! :logo: :point2sky

[Hunter_R]

what happened with that? Was he really pissed b/c Shaun was playing more than him?
I hope we find out at some point this week.

[RocketCitySkins]

Portis had the chance to set a record and did. But he couldn't set it watching Alexander from the sideline. I don't blame him for being pissed.

[Frediemac]

I saw the play that you're talking about, Kendall stopped his push at about 10 yards and Portis ran into his back, pretty much ending the play. You could audibly hear Portis yell at him to get downfield and I don't think Kendall liked it too much. Portis was right though.

Yes but you don't show up your teammate on the field. CP wants to win more this year than ever so they need to cut him some slack. But he should not have been yelling at Kendall there. BUT GO CLINTON GO!

[cyfar]

I think it's pretty obvious that Portis doesn't like the idea that Alexander was brought in. i don't think he sees it as a threat, maybe more of a slight towards Cartwright?

This was addressed in the Zorn presser. Clinton didn't get in due to an equipment issue, the issue was resolved and he felt that he should have gotten in the game. Zorn was calling the game and wasn't aware of the situation. There was a misunderstanding and tempers flared. Nothing major. I can't wait for the media to try and turn this into a Clinton is like TO, situation.

[TK]

Zorn has already explained in his post game presser. CP had an equipment issue that Zorn wasn't aware of & was calling the game on who was in the game. He was calling plays based on CP being in there & realised CP wasn't in there. Said they even addressed it in front of the team in the locker room and that it's not an issue.

[sellyoursol]

I think it was just a heat of the moment type thing. Portis slapped Zorn some skin coming off the field later in the game, everything is fine. Portis is a flat-out gamer, demonstrated by his return to the game on the same possession as the injury. Zorn knows who's buttering the bread.

As far as the Kendall thing, again, I believe Portis had a legitimate gripe.