We almost lost to the Browns, not enough td's

[herb mul-key]

I posted a similar thread "we almost lost to Philly"....and I got a little roughed up.

We just are not an offesive scoring juggernaut...not sure if we can be...

Would be nice to feel like we can score td's...often.

Glad were winning and I'll take it...but we need more td's.

Maybe we rumble down field for a TD if Portis doesn't fumble. We were on a roll.

Sure we dominated the Browns but as you know...we almost went to OT and were vulnerable to a loss to the very end.

We need to have the Detroit game won by start of the fourth quarter.

[truskinsfan18]

I agree, but to say we can't be is completely wrong. We have the best running back in the league. Once our passing game cathes up to our running game(which is the same form last year) we will be unstoppable on offense.

[HailGreen28]

The offense wasn't horrible, but they oughta send "thank you" cards to the defense for the win today.

[maskedsuperstar]

Sorry bro, thats not the way the league works. The Browns get paid too. This isn't college football. If you get roughed up, its your own fault.

[cubanl81]

Well were still getting W's. I think well get better at this later on in the season.

[IbleedBnG83]

Zorn is getting conservative...too conservative

[bnewbs]

Hmmm I think the team is fine in the second half....but in nearly every game so far this year the team seems to just drag *** on the field the first half....coaches,players, trainers, everyone. I think if they could get rhythm started earlier in the game we would be a more potent offense but I don't agree with the OP that the Detroit game must be won in the 4th quarter.....it would a nice nice feeling but the game is four quarters long and the team needs to be playing just as hard in the fourth quarter regardless if the game feels as if its been won or not

[skin_finatic]

the offense just needs to sustain drives. too many 3rd and longs, but who cares, we won!

[ReggieBrooks2Canton]

Lets keep in mind that these are NFL players. I don't think any team is so bad that your gonna have a guaranteed steamroll. This isn't college or high school where the good teams usually blow out the bad ones. "Any Given Sunday...."

[DeaconBlue]

Sorry bro, thats not the way the league works. The Browns get paid too. This isn't college football. If you get roughed up, its your own fault.


There is wisdom in those words. 5-2 is 5-2, yes Id like more scoring too but Im more than happy with what we've done.

[STBonecrusher21]

Sooo.....We need to blow out every team.

What a concept! Why haven't our coaches starting using this!?!?!!

[maskedsuperstar]

Lets keep in mind that these are NFL players. I don't think any team is so bad that your gonna have a guaranteed steamroll. This isn't college or high school where the good teams usually blow out the bad ones. "Any Given Sunday...."

Exactly!

[TheItalianStallion]

With all of the success we've had thus far this season, it's easy to forget that we're only 7 games into a newregime with a new system, and our rooks are still maturing. Our offense is still a work in progress. Zorn wants to be 60/40 in favor of passing. During the win streak, I think we were close to 50/50, which is probably what's best for us at this stage in the Zorn era. However, in tonight's game we were closer to 40/60. I think we should've been 50/50; this might've gotten us more than 14 points.

[zskins]

Zorn is getting conservative...too conservative

True but isn't that why we have less turnovers then any other team.

[walker77]

The only positive on the offense was Portis (obviously). We need some production from these rookies. So far it looks as if they are going to be observing most of this season.

[Buck812]

Actually this is the way superbowl seasons tend to start. A team finding a way to win games then get hot at the end of the year. We are right on target right now.... We just need to keep finding ways to win!

[RedlightG20]

I agree that we are leaving our opponents in the game when we should be putting them away. It seems our offense can move the ball into our opponent's territory, but once there its tough to keep the drive going. We are beating these teams soundly when you look at the stats, but the scoreboard doesn't normally show how much we dominate the games.

Just seems like we focus more on running in the opponent's territory when they begin to expect it, and we leave ourselves in 3rd and long situations often. Keep the foot on their throat and pass the ball!

[TL8583]

The offense wasn't horrible, but they oughta send "thank you" cards to the defense for the win today.


and flowers...

A win is a win, and I'll take it, but I would love for the Skins to win one convincingly.

[Skinsfan1311]

Enjoy the goddamn wins and move on.

[ouvan59]

Good teams like the Giants blow out bad teams like the Browns...oh, wait.....

[truskinsfan18]

Mark my words, next week is a breakout game for the offense. They can put up 35+ points.

[Smurf85]

Zorn is getting conservative...too conservative


Yep I was wondering if Gibbs was calling the plays today.:doh: If it wasn't for Portis this team would be done. Portis is the heart of the team and is a ****ing beast. I better not see one thread in here about is ability and his heart being questioned. This guy is the real deal with over 800 yds already in the season. I have to thank CP for the 5 wins we have and Zorn should also be thanking CP for helping him become a winning team so far.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

I'm happy with the wins. I don't care how they happen. The defense is playing on another level all together. The offense will come together in time. Remember this IS a new system. Campbell needs more time to really get a handle on things, as well as the receiving corps.

I agree with Truskinsfan18, the Lions game could/should be the time to break out and really hammer someone.

HAIL!

[herb mul-key]

I mean the bears, vikings, steelers, titans, panthers, rams are puting up 30+ this week ...i think we can too someday.....

[kevinklein]

"If we score more Touchdown's, we have a better chance of winning."

Profound thought, dude. It becomes more clear to me every time you post it.

['Skins_&_'Stons]

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[kingfish50]

I have never heard/read so many people complain about a win. We are 5-2, a 1/2 game out of 1st place with a new coach, under a new offensive system while the players are still learning.
That's 5 and 2! 5 wins and only 2 losses! Enjoy it.

[TheItalianStallion]

I have never heard/read so many people complain about a win. We are 5-2, a 1/2 game out of 1st place with a new coach, under a new offensive system while the players are still learning.
That's 5 and 2! 5 wins and only 2 losses! Enjoy it.I guess you weren't here for the Arizona game last year.

[TankRizzo]

There is wisdom in those words. 5-2 is 5-2, yes Id like more scoring too but Im more than happy with what we've done.

Yes, but at the same time, by not scoring points and letting teams hang around instead of finishing them off when we had the chance, we could VERY easily be 1-6. All of the games we've played minus the Cardinals game have been one Pete Kendall fumble away from being a big, fat L. I'm happy to be winning, but you're tempting fate when you let opponents hang around.

[skinsgirl26]

The only positive on the offense was Portis (obviously). We need some production from these rookies. So far it looks as if they are going to be observing most of this season.

Don't forget about Moss! :applause:

But Portis was such a beast today...I was sayin he was gunna run for 200 yards...he was close enough.

[kingfish50]

I guess you weren't here for the Arizona game last year.
Well yes, I was but last year we were not just a 1/2 game from 1st place with a 5-2 record but I get your drift, lol.

[GenMgr]

The lack of offensive production from the rookies has left a void in the offense. Skins do not have a "downfield threat" except Moss.

[TNSkinsFan]

Campbell made some poor throws in the second half today. I think of course the injury hurt him, a lot. Anyone who has ever even pulled a groin knows how much it affects your ability to plant, pivot, etc. and that it will obviously affect a man's throwing motion.

I think it affected the game plan a lot more today than was let on. CP rocked the house thank God, but without him, and the D, we lose today.

I really hope JC is healed up next week.

[Larry]

Remembering once during an NFL broadcast, hearing Troy Aikman say that "People try to tell me that [whatever team they were watching] really isn't that good. That all they have is one WR, one TE, and 1 RB. And I point out to them that you can win three Super Bowls with a team like that."

[Larry]

I really hope JC is healed up next week.

Well, we'll definitely need him in two weeks.

Somehow, I don't see us beating the Steelers playing one-dimensional offense.

[gortiz]

We just are not an offesive scoring juggernaut...not sure if we can be...

:doh::doh::doh:

I swear, the comments I see on here will never, ever, ever, ever, cease to amaze me.

Ever ...

[herb mul-key]

"If we score more Touchdown's, we have a better chance of winning."

Profound thought, dude. It becomes more clear to me every time you post it.


grasshopper...so true is your simple quote but so diffucult to make reality.

I see you're to young to remember when we CRUSHED teams...

were doing ok but were not that good yet....Bills and Titans might kick our azz.

[elkabong82]

Umm, the offense is still progressing. How quickly it seems some forget this is only the first year of Zorn's offense. Yet the offense features a QB with ZERO INTs and the leading rusher in the NFL. The teams as a whole is 5-2. I think what they are doing is working fine rite now. If you want to nitpick 5-2, that's your perogative, I'm going to sit back and enjoy what has turned out to be a very promising season thus far.

[Jumbo]

Actually this is the way superbowl seasons tend to start. A team finding a way to win games then get hot at the end of the year. We are right on target right now.... We just need to keep finding ways to win!

Someone has hacked Buck's account. :)

[herb mul-key]

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you post so much drivel dude...do have an original thought ever? I mean really...ever?

We are dominating but not scoring and it will keep killing us like it did against the Rams and almost did today...while after Philly which was a close game score wise many fans wanted to crown us...

I see you're to young as well to really remember what is was like when we CRUSHED teams... in stats and scoreboard. We ain't there....yet.

[herb mul-key]

:doh::doh::doh:

I swear, the comments I see on here will never, ever, ever, ever, cease to amaze me.

Ever ...

dude it was a bit of sarcasm...but....kyle orton and gus frerrotte put up 40 points today...wtf...we only score 14 against the BROWNS.

We have been trying to build a team that can score in bunches since our last super bowl win and we haven't been able to do it.

Do I think this team and Zorn can? Maybe.

[STBonecrusher21]

We ain't there....yet.

Who said we were?

:D

[MustangSteve]

Zorn is getting conservative...too conservativeI agree 100%
We are not attacking defenses like we were on the 4 game winning streak. We havent gone down field nearly as much, considering defenses are coming after Portis, and still cant hold him unfer a 100 yards.

This is the time to air it out and let our recievers torche the one on one coverage. When we start attacking like this again, we will start dominating teams because of the play of our defense. We have out played every team we played, for the exception of the opener in NY, and our 1st game in this new system.

This team is good enough to beat anyone, and there is no doubt about that, if they open it up and not play this conservative ball. We are letting teams hang around now and that will end up biting us again like it did in the Rams game. No way the Rams outplayed us, or better then us.

Lets get back to attacking and start dominating these teams like we can and should. Go Redskins!!! :point2sky

[herb mul-key]

Umm, the offense is still progressing. How quickly it seems some forget this is only the first year of Zorn's offense. Yet the offense features a QB with ZERO INTs and the leading rusher in the NFL. The teams as a whole is 5-2. I think what they are doing is working fine rite now. If you want to nitpick 5-2, that's your perogative, I'm going to sit back and enjoy what has turned out to be a very promising season thus far.


I feel great about what we have done so far...

I just don't want to settle for close wins or losses to teams not playing that well...we blow out or just win big against the rams brown or lions and I will feel a lot better about my skins. We have one more opportunity for a blow out.

We are not using Cooley or TE's or back as recievers that well and of course obviously we could use more production in general in the passing game.

Portis, Sellers and the O-line are beast !!!

[CaptainJames2004]

When you're a 'run first' team then you run more than you pass... when you run more than you pass you kill more time off the clock... when you kill time off the clock faster you probably score less points. As long as teams can't stop us from running the ball all over them then a wins a win baby!!! That's what everyone needs to freakin realize! If you're a pass first team THEN you have the opportunity to score more. Stop yearning for flashy high scoring games and enjoy your team winning the way they know best!

[elkabong82]

I feel great about what we have done so far...

I just don't want to settle for close wins or losses to teams not playing that well...we blow out or just win big against the rams brown or lions and I will feel a lot better about my skins. We have one more opportunity for a blow out.

We are not using Cooley or TE's or back as recievers that well and of course obviously we could use more production in general in the passing game.

Portis, Sellers and the O-line are beast !!!

The sudden influx of turnovers has had a lot do with it as well. That's the reason the Rams won, and it is the reason the Browns were able to pull within 3. The good teams are the ones that can overcome them and stop commting them. We overcame it today. You don't have to blow out a team score-wise to dominate them in a game. Not dominating every single team hardly means your team isn't good if they have a good record. Look at the '01 Patriots, heck look at Gibbs I Skins. You all bring up '91, how quickly foget just a little bit earlier. Moseley won the NFL MVP in '82 for a reason.

When we beat Dallas, the game was over early in the 4th quarter. We played prevent at the end to make Dallas eat up a bunch of the clock with over the middle stuff. Dallas had no timeouts, and even when they did score, their only chance was an onside kick, which is very low success%. After the first quarter of the Philly game we dominated them the rest of the game. Except for turnovers and the final score, we actually dominated the Rams statistically. Final scores can be deceptive, and to borrow the cliche, a win is a win. Appreciate 5-2, regardless of the margin of victory. I'm sure the whole team would love to score more points, and I'm sure they will as the offense continues to grow. They are already at 5-2, so IMO there is more reason to believe they will continue to progress, rather than regress.

[REDSKINS8181]

If we won the Super Bowl by a score of 3-0, would you be happy or sad?

I'd be pretty damn happy.

[HOGnificent]

lets see, we have a winning record, the league's leading rusher (in a west coast offense might i add), and a QB that hasnt thrown any pics yet........im happy! HAIL TO THE REDSKINS

[1972FAN]

If I recall the SB champs lost to the browns by 17+ points, I satisfied with our win, Like I said earlier WE kept the browns in the game, by our mistakes. We stop them on 4 downs and gave it back to them.

[HawaiianStyle]

If we won the Super Bowl by a score of 3-0, would you be happy or sad?

I'd be pretty damn happy.
Not if i was giving 3 1/2 Lmao:D

[imaneaglesfan]

yeah i agree and have been telling my friends who are all mostly skins fans the same thing. the fact that u only put up 31 points in 2 games against the rams/browns defenses should be unsettling. the rams already horrendous defense had a secondary that was decimated by injury and the browns defense is honestly not that good. you have a playoff contending team, but playoff winning football teams put teams away.. im not one 2talk as my squad has 2b the most frustrating ever in letting teams hang around.. we are one in the same in this respect i suppose, which is why i share alot of your sentiments..

[Xameil]

were doing ok but were not that good yet....Bills and Titans might kick our azz.

yeah lets see...the Cowboys were supposed to kick our ass at Dallas, and the Eagles were supposed to kick our ass at Philly...

You know what if my aunt had a set of.....I think you get my picture. The Offense is doing fine. Last week they had fumble-itis, this week Portis felt left out so he dropped one. Change those fluke fumbles to actual positive plays and the Offense looks alot better. It was quite clear to alot of us the game plan changed after seeing Campbell get hurt. Not to mention part of NY's downfall to Cleveland was not running as much. When you know a teams weakness, you use it. Now why we punted in the first quarter when we were on the 35 on a 4th and 4, is beyond me. There were a few suspect playcalls, but we won, I'm happy, and I know the team is on the right track.

[TheGreek1973]

People tend to forget this team killed the Giants last week. and before you say well the Giants had a let down, the Rams killed the boys this week. You know the Rams that barely beat us with a 49 yard field goal and a fumble return for a TD. Quit second guesing this team. We have a great D, increadible running game and the passing game will get better. Right now, call me a homer, I think we are the best in the NFC east.

[Brotherz]

I agree, but to say we can't be is completely wrong. We have the best running back in the league. Once our passing game cathes up to our running game(which is the same form last year) we will be unstoppable on offense.

I agree. I mean you can be a "glass half full" or "glass half empty" guy with this. I agree, we need more points. Period. BUT, that being said, that running game is so prolific and that o-line is rocking the front of opposing defenses so much that if (when) the passing game catchees up this entire offense could be elite. Now add to it a defense like ours which I thinkis just lights out and you are looking at an incredibly dangerous football team in the latter part of the season.

We just gotta stay healthy, and keep improving. This defense could keep us in any game we play this year. Look at the points against. They gave up eleven yesterday (and they had a goal line stand before Portis fumbled it back to them for another shot inside our 35 yard line). They gave up 12 last week (remember the offense was responsible for 7 not to mention the punted put the opponent in field goal range twice to START the drives). The defense has just been incredible.

We can't forget that this is the first season under this system. When I thought we were going to be terrible at after the giants game I was saying "they should improve as the season goes on though". I still feel like they have far more room for improvement than the other teams in the division who have fully installed and fully comprehended offensive schemes. The skins can still get significantly better from week to week. That is a really nice thing to think about.

[Xameil]

The fact alot of people are missing is that because our passing offense has shown it can be a deep threat our running game has benefitted. Gone are the days of 8 or 9 in the box.

[Blue Collar Skins]

Yeah we need more TD's! We need to be like the Minnesota Vikings who scored 41 points yesterday! Oh wait, Chicago scored 48. Nevermind. They just need to score more TDs so I can brag to my friends and get some media loving! Yeah! :rolleyes:

[maskedsuperstar]

Yes, but at the same time, by not scoring points and letting teams hang around instead of finishing them off when we had the chance, we could VERY easily be 1-6. All of the games we've played minus the Cardinals game have been one Pete Kendall fumble away from being a big, fat L. I'm happy to be winning, but you're tempting fate when you let opponents hang around.

Oh please!! These isn't college football. 31 other teams get paid too. Before the start of the season, the Skins weren't suppose to be 5-2. Enjoy the record, and move on. The team is doing well. I'm not expecting blow outs every Sunday. If you are, you will be disappointed. Be happy god*amn it.:mad:

[bootzilla]

I posted a similar thread "we almost lost to Philly"....and I got a little roughed up.

We just are not an offesive scoring juggernaut...not sure if we can be...

Would be nice to feel like we can score td's...often.

Glad were winning and I'll take it...but we need more td's.

Maybe we rumble down field for a TD if Portis doesn't fumble. We were on a roll.

Sure we dominated the Browns but as you know...we almost went to OT and were vulnerable to a loss to the very end.

We need to have the Detroit game won by start of the fourth quarter.
If, if's were 5th's we would all be drunk. :cheers: At the end of the season only thing that counts is did you win more than you lost and right now we are 5-2. After Week 1 How many of you would thought that?

[herb mul-key]

If we won the Super Bowl by a score of 3-0, would you be happy or sad?

I'd be pretty damn happy.

that is whats funny...if we can't score td's and close a few teams out we aint going to the super bowl....get it?

[herb mul-key]

Yeah we need more TD's! We need to be like the Minnesota Vikings who scored 41 points yesterday! Oh wait, Chicago scored 48. Nevermind. They just need to score more TDs so I can brag to my friends and get some media loving! Yeah! :rolleyes:

sorry with our D...we should win some games 35-10...those type scores....

I feel good about our record and all and the sky is not falling but...really...we need to find a way to score more points....period...or we are not going as far as we'd like...period.

[Larry]

sorry with our D...we should win some games 35-10...those type scores....

We came real close to winning the last one 14-3.

[Oldfan]

We are dominating but not scoring and it will keep killing us like it did against the Rams and almost did today...while after Philly which was a close game score wise many fans wanted to crown us... We ain't there....yet.

I agree. We have a ways to go. Yardage stats and time of possession make for interesting conversation, but too many of our drives are finishing with FGs or missed FGs.

It will come in time, though. This passing game will get better.

[fire3fighter4]

The offense isn't even a season old...I expect it to pick up as the season goes on and we get thomas, kelly, and davis more involved. Campell was also injured yesterday which played a roll in what plays were called.

[herb mul-key]

I agree. We have a ways to go. Yardage stats and time of possession make for interesting conversation, but too many of our drives are finishing with FGs or missed FGs.

It will come in time, though. This passing game will get better.

thank you Mr. Oldfan :cheers: