View Full Version : Not Winning by Alot Could be Hurting our Playoff Chances
T-REX1240
October-31st-2008, 04:01 PM
Everybody knows that a win is a win. But what people dont uderstand is how the league determines seeding, placement, etc for the playoffs. Margin of victory is one of the things used to make this determination in case of tie-brakers. The way it looks now, we are walking a thin line from becoming a 1st seed (with a bye-week and homefield) or a wild-card (with no bye and all road games). Bottom line is that we actually do NEED to win by larger point margins.
Here is a link from to explain how the league determines tie-breakers for the playoffs
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
jbooma
October-31st-2008, 04:04 PM
We are 6-2 with the second best record in the NFC, that is pretty damn good if you ask me :)
Rdskn4Lyf21
October-31st-2008, 04:09 PM
It is too far down on the list of tiebreaking procedures to really worry about at this point.
TheREALJBird
October-31st-2008, 04:10 PM
These low scoring games are really gonna hurt us when the first official BCS rankings come out
Dance04
October-31st-2008, 04:14 PM
well, if you are winning, and it's by 1 point every time, it doesnt matter, because you are winning, and will therefore have a superior record to everyone else.
Voice_of_Reason
October-31st-2008, 04:17 PM
I think the last time this came into play was when Mike Ditka was coaching the Saints. (Seriously) The saints were out of the playoffs but whoever they were playing tried to run up the score on them and Ditka started going for 2 and started going deep.
It is a tie breaker, but it's been a REALLY long time since it came down to that.
TheRedfishCo
October-31st-2008, 04:19 PM
These low scoring games are really gonna hurt us when the first official BCS rankings come out
lolz
shif7y
October-31st-2008, 04:36 PM
Points don't come into the picture for tiebreakers until the seventh tiebreaker.
TomE
October-31st-2008, 04:37 PM
But what people dont uderstand is how the league determines seeding,
A little presumptuous, aren't we.
adamyesme1111
October-31st-2008, 04:39 PM
It is too far down on the list of tiebreaking procedures to really worry about at this point.
Yeah, I think there is more of a chance that the Redskins lose their remaining games then a ANY tiebreaker (let alone the Redskins') coming down to that.
These low scoring games are really gonna hurt us when the first official BCS rankings come out
lmao...:applause:
mtcooleyfan23
October-31st-2008, 04:41 PM
Let's just focus on wins right now. Keep on putting the cart ahead of the horse and see what happens. I appreciate your analytical approach here but we're a long ways away from tiebreakers.
ST is my boy
October-31st-2008, 04:42 PM
Everybody knows that a win is a win. But what people dont uderstand is how the league determines seeding, placement, etc for the playoffs. Margin of victory is one of the things used to make this determination in case of tie-brakers. The way it looks now, we are walking a thin line from becoming a 1st seed (with a bye-week and homefield) or a wild-card (with no bye and all road games). Bottom line is that we actually do NEED to win by larger point margins.
Here is a link from to explain how the league determines tie-breakers for the playoffs
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
The tiebreakers NEVER go that far. This isnt something to worry about it. We just need to win dude.
Bacon
October-31st-2008, 04:42 PM
But what people dont uderstand is how the league determines seeding
1. Division winner with #1 record
2. Division winner with #2 record
3. Division winner with #3 record
4. Division winner with #4 record
5. Wildcard with #1 record
6. Wildcard with #2 record
:whoknows:
The Rook
October-31st-2008, 04:43 PM
I think it is not something to worry about at this time, BUT it did keep us out of the playoffs once upon a time. It is another reason why I hate the Giants and the Bears.
:helmet: The Rook
mtcooleyfan23
October-31st-2008, 04:43 PM
I like'd Portis' comments of NFL.com about he doesn't care if the final score is 3 to 2, as long as it's a win.
Stew
October-31st-2008, 04:46 PM
As I said in another thread, I believe the close games and fighting it out until the end is actually going to help us come Playoff time. We have been playing tight, close Football games since our first game. We are used to scraping back into games and getting out with a W. Other teams in the league havent faced that kind of adversity yet, let alone on a weekly basis.
Its "Any Given Sunday" in the NFL, Look at St. Louis now, they are on a roll and actually have a little swagger. Any team can put up a W. All teams have talent, some are coached better then others. The best team doesnt always win... especially if they arent used to fighting it out or coming from behind. The experience gained in that kind of conditions and situations eight/nine straight weeks, before our BYE can and will give our team an edge in the playoffs. We will have been there before and know the road to take to overcome adversity.
nightbird
October-31st-2008, 04:47 PM
You need to have one of the best records before anyone cares how many points you scored.
Would you prefer us to go 10-6 scoring 26 points per game, or 12-4 scoring 23 points per game?
NewCliche21
October-31st-2008, 04:52 PM
Uh, that's one of the last tiebreakers.
This isn't hockey.
Calm down.
skinsfan328
October-31st-2008, 05:11 PM
This is not college ball,a win is a win,were not try to be ranked #1 in some a p poll!!!
cphil006
October-31st-2008, 07:03 PM
A thread was started for this?
Kindred
October-31st-2008, 07:21 PM
not winning by a lot hurts our playoff chances? I know what else hurts our playoff chances. Losing. And I'll take any win regardless of point differential over a loss, so lets not get greedy.
jrfriedm
October-31st-2008, 07:40 PM
And it could come down to who has the sexiest fans, but that is unlikely too.
KDawg
October-31st-2008, 08:05 PM
I don't know, guys, he has a point.
With Penn State, Texas and Alabama playing as well as they are, we really need to start winning more convincingly. The coaches have us rated fairly high, but the USA Today polls aren't sold. We need to run up the score on the Pitt Panthers this weekend. I think we're more talented than those D1 athletes are, but on any given Sunday... (Or is it Saturday?)
:)
whatmeworry
October-31st-2008, 09:39 PM
I'm sorry. Did I miss something?
Redskins:Victory_or_Death
October-31st-2008, 09:43 PM
And it could come down to who has the sexiest fans, but that is unlikely too.My sig = WIN. :D
Bacon
October-31st-2008, 09:47 PM
And it could come down to who has the sexiest fans, but that is unlikely too.
Best cheerleaders?
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/10/30/redskins-cheerleaders-catch-roethlisbergers-eye/
We may be safe in that department as well.
illone
October-31st-2008, 10:00 PM
A little early to be worrying about this, no?
cphil006
October-31st-2008, 10:07 PM
not winning by a lot hurts our playoff chances? I know what else hurts our playoff chances. Losing. And I'll take any win regardless of point differential over a loss, so lets not get greedy.
I know, right? Is the BCS picking our playoff teams?
WinSkins
November-1st-2008, 08:51 AM
These low scoring games are really gonna hurt us when the first official BCS rankings come out
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao: :rotflmao::rotflmao::cheers:
pjfootballer
November-1st-2008, 09:03 AM
Keep winning and you don't need the tie breakers.
Mister Happy
November-1st-2008, 09:06 AM
Margin of victory is the 9th division tiebreaker.
Strength of victory is not how many points you beat teams by. It is the winning percentage of the teams you beat.
Margin of victory indirectly comes into play in your points scored for and against ranking, but that is the 7th divison tiebreaker, and not worth gameplanning for.
DrinknKoolAid
November-1st-2008, 09:30 AM
This thread is just dumb. Everyone knows that playoff seeding never goes down to who scored the most points. At the very most it would come down to divisional record.
:logo:
kingfish50
November-1st-2008, 11:42 AM
Winning the division will eliminate all this talk about tie breakers. We are only a 1/2 game behind the Giants, with the 2nd best record in the NFC.
:steelersu:steelersu:steelersu:steelersu:steelersu :steelersu:steelersu
Blue Collar Skins
November-1st-2008, 01:25 PM
Not Winning Could be Hurting our Playoff Chances
There fixed the title for you ;)
MustangSteve
November-1st-2008, 02:07 PM
As long as we keep winning, we will be joining the party come January, and hopefully Febuary as well.
Park City Skins
November-1st-2008, 02:10 PM
New coach. Actually, new coaches. Few new players and fairly new offense. I'll be happy they make the playoffs no matter what.
ExoDus84
November-1st-2008, 02:16 PM
I'll take 1 point wins the rest of the season. In fact, I'd take 1 pt wins every single sunday/monday for the skins. 19-0 and superbowl champions baby!
Elessar78
November-1st-2008, 02:24 PM
Playoffs?
http://www.firstandsecondcityguys.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/JimMora.jpg
RED06
November-1st-2008, 02:27 PM
Everybody knows that a win is a win. But what people dont uderstand is how the league determines seeding, placement, etc for the playoffs. Margin of victory is one of the things used to make this determination in case of tie-brakers. The way it looks now, we are walking a thin line from becoming a 1st seed (with a bye-week and homefield) or a wild-card (with no bye and all road games). Bottom line is that we actually do NEED to win by larger point margins.
Here is a link from to explain how the league determines tie-breakers for the playoffs
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
WOW! Dude relax man, points scored per game almost never comes into to play when deciding anything for the playoffs> Try, who has the best division record? Teams that you beat to have the edge in the tie breaker if it comes to that.
Just say you would like to see us score more points, that's all! To start a thread on this is "AMAZING", and not to mention not really understanding, that it is way to early to even be thinking about that right now. We just need to keep winning and we're in the playoff "NO MATTER HOW MANY POINTS WE SCORE PER GAME" GEEE WIZ!
RED06
abdcskins
November-1st-2008, 04:18 PM
Where'd the original poster go?
A win is a win. Even in Burkina Faso.
RySkins
November-1st-2008, 04:28 PM
This is unlikely to come into play this year, but I believe a variation of the point differential tiebreaker cost the Skins a playoff spot in 1979.
NewCliche21
November-1st-2008, 06:41 PM
There fixed the title for you ;)
Not really fixed.
We are winning. ;)
Sekhmet728
November-1st-2008, 06:59 PM
Everybody knows that a win is a win. But what people dont uderstand is how the league determines seeding, placement, etc for the playoffs. Margin of victory is one of the things used to make this determination in case of tie-brakers. The way it looks now, we are walking a thin line from becoming a 1st seed (with a bye-week and homefield) or a wild-card (with no bye and all road games). Bottom line is that we actually do NEED to win by larger point margins.
Here is a link from to explain how the league determines tie-breakers for the playoffs
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
You're out of your mind. When was the last time any playoff seeding was determined by margin of victory? It's not even one of the first 10 methods used. You know why? Because it doesn't mean anything.
KCJDLJ
November-1st-2008, 07:01 PM
This is hilarious. Points don't come into play until the fifth tie breaker. I've been following the NFL for over forty years and I don't recall a single instance where points scored was a factor in determining a playoff spot. Sure it could happen but it never has as far as I know and the odds are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000:1 against it. If it gets down to that we don't deserve to go anyway.
BleedBNG
November-1st-2008, 07:19 PM
I'm more worried about the coin toss :paranoid:
Blue Collar Skins
November-1st-2008, 07:58 PM
Not really fixed.
We are winning. ;)Heh exactly. My point is I just want the team to win. I dont care if it is by 1 or 30.
Blue Collar Skins
November-1st-2008, 07:59 PM
I'm more worried about the coin toss :paranoid:
Yeah! The coin could go astray and hit Campbell in the eye :D
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