Here is the type of Linemen we need. Florida State's Everett Brown

[andyburd]

I was watching the Maryland Terrapins get totally hammered last night, as usual, they don't show up for a big game. If you watched the game, you saw the domination by the Florida State defense.
I sat there and watched this total stud named Everett Brown just destroy every o-linemen he he faced, it was unreal. This guy completely dominated the game to the point where it was a big reason for the blowout.
I am sitting here thinking to myself, we haven't had a d-linemen like this since the glory days, and how it can totally make offenses change their game plan.
I believe the Skins need to make a push for this type of player. I know we need linemen on both sides of the ball, but who is out there in the draft that could come in and play right away? There are very few, but I think this is something we need to do.

[ST is my boy]

Yea I saw the game as well, dude was a complete stud for sure. We need D lineman in the worst way in this upcoming draft. But knowing Cerrato and Snyder....we probley wont get them. They just salivate over postion players too much.

That being said.....most dlineman end up being busts anyway.

[Wyndorf25]

I was watching the Maryland Terrapins get totally hammered last night, as usual, they don't show up for a big game. If you watched the game, you saw the domination by the Florida State defense.
I sat there and watched this total stud named Everett Brown just destroy every o-linemen he he faced, it was unreal. This guy completely dominated the game to the point where it was a big reason for the blowout.
I am sitting here thinking to myself, we haven't had a d-linemen like this since the glory days, and how it can totally make offenses change their game plan.
I believe the Skins need to make a push for this type of player. I know we need linemen on both sides of the ball, but who is out there in the draft that could come in and play right away? There are very few, but I think this is something we need to do.

I was extremely impressed with this dude too. What round would he go? Looks like a 1st rounder to me, that's for sure.

[Taiwan32]

Being an FSU fan I've watched him over the past couple years and he's progressed quite well. He's torn up every offensive lineman he's faced. He's only a junior this year and I'm not sure if he'll declare or not but I sure hope he doesn't!!! I think he'd be a early 2nd rounder if I had to guess.

[DCCOP]

That guy has some wheels. Good lord he is fast for his size..

[Thirtyfive2seven]

I tried to find some youtube clips of him and couldn't. I wanted to see this stuff for myself. Oh well. Here's to hoping that the lines aren't ignored in the upcoming draft!

[The Fourth King]

Did you just say Maryland never shows up for a big game? They usually knock off ranked opponents actually...They never show up for a game they are supposed to win.

But Everett Brown is a beast, even if he won't declare.

[Taiwan32]

Did you just say Maryland never shows up for a big game? They usually knock off ranked opponents actually...They never show up for a game they are supposed to win.

But Everett Brown is a beast, even if he won't declare.

Maryland showed up last week against UNC and because of that I won a little mulah...

Anywho, go Noles!

HTTR

[FrFan]

I had him in my draft prospects with Orakpo and Hardy
DE Everette Brown Highlights FSU vs Wake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNGyy9oiusY)

Here (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=192587)you have highlights of all the others potential DE's posted by MIAdragon on Chiefsplanet

[Siven]

sorry, Maryland played extremely poorly on the offensive line. The tackles were especially bad.

The guy did nothing special.

[Taiwan32]

sorry, Maryland played extremely poorly on the offensive line. The tackles were especially bad.

The guy did nothing special.

Wow, you're oblivious to talent... He dominates every O Lineman he faces and has for the past couple seasons.

[Hardcore Zornography]

I would like to have the crazy dude from Texas Tech with the mohawk and face paint.

[FrFan]

I would like to have the crazy dude from Texas Tech with the mohawk and face paint.

Brandon Carter 6-7 / 354 He is definitely HUGE
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/text/sports/m-footbl/auto_headshot/1270034.jpeg

http://www.redraiders.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/gd.jpg

[TheLongshot]

Brandon Carter 6-7 / 354
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/text/sports/m-footbl/auto_headshot/1270034.jpeg

That's more what I'm talking about. We need big guys in the middle who can take on double teams to free up outside rushers. We don't need another undersized end who will get doubleteamed.

[jrockster21]

I want the guy from Texas, Okabaku or whatever his name is. Dude is a monster, and will be a strongside DE in the NFL for years. He's like Daniels with speed and athletic ability.

[tml6157]

Give me a stud RT in round 1 please

[mi6]

Another couple of players to watch are right in our own back yard...

1/ WR - Darrius Heyward-Bey. This guy has been a game breaker for the Terps. Has great hands, runs good routes, and has blazing speed

2/ RBs - Da'real (sp?) Scott. The guy has talent. And, despite a shoulder injury is racking them up.

3/ Safety - Kenny Barnes. Has speed, is excellent in coverage, and does know how to lay down the lumber. Just as the guy who spilled his cookies on the field. It was one of the most jarring hits I have seen in football (college or professional).

[andyburd]

sorry, Maryland played extremely poorly on the offensive line. The tackles were especially bad.

The guy did nothing special.

I would have to say you sir are wrong. He is a animal, and on one play he was getting blocked by three guys, and still helped out on the tackle.
He will go in the top 10 or 20 for sure, even if he declares.
I'm not saying he is the one, but he is a game changer, and we havn't seen a guy like that on our defense since Wilber Marshall

[SkinsNoles21]

sorry, Maryland played extremely poorly on the offensive line. The tackles were especially bad.

The guy did nothing special.

uhhh ... what? I mean yea, they did play terrible there, but Everette Brown has been eating up every offensive tackle hes faced for two years. Ive been watching the guy for a while and I knew that once we (FSU) played Maryland there would be a thread on him.

Maybe the complete domination by all d-line players had to do with the o-line but Brown dominates.

On those plays where they rolled turner out away from brown and let him run free, turner was supposed to have plenty of time to get the ball off. However, Everette was so damn fast he got to Turner real quick and blew up the whole play.

Anyways, the Skins do need a d-end like this ... but we also need a monster nose tackle to plug holes and keep blockers occupied.

[SkinsNoles21]

Oh, and this guy is a guarunteed first rounder.

Only a junior, hopefully he stays for his senior year, if he does hes a top 10 pick next year.

[Spartacus87]

sorry, Maryland played extremely poorly on the offensive line. The tackles were especially bad.

The guy did nothing special. You must be a Maryland fan. Sorry about last night ;).

I'm rooting for you guys next week against BC though.


Oh, and this guy is a guarunteed first rounder.

Only a junior, hopefully he stays for his senior year, if he does hes a top 10 pick next year. He'll definitely declare, there's no doubt at all of that.

Replacing him, Rolle, and Tony Carter next year will be hard, for sure.

Brown at this point is one of the top 3 DEs in the country, and at 6'4 and 255, already has great acceleration and quickness on his pass rushing moves, but he's also got the ability to probably add just a little more weight to his frame.

Following the combine he'll be a mid to late first rounder the way things look like right now.

That all being said, while of course I love and support FSU guys, I really think we need a big time RT in the first if we don't find a way to trade down into the 2nd.

And BJ Raji, the DT at Boston College, is worth a hard look as well. The guy is huge and eats up double and triple teams.

[SkinsNoles21]

Why are we losing Myron Rolle ... he is a junior and I don't see him leaving early.

[FLRedskins]

I'll take Safety Myron Rolle The Rhode Scholar winner

[BigMike21]

Im a big FSU fan, I was at the game last night. Brown is a monster. Rolle is good, but not starting NFL good. He probably won't play in the NFL anyways with all the school he wants to do.

[skinsfan190]

This kid is a monster. He will be the next great pass rusher. He has it all, spin moves, speed rushes, forcing havoc and dominating games.
Check him out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXJJ14HL5EE

[SkinsNoles21]

2nd in the nation with 12.5 sacks ... don't see how the Redskins will land him. Seminoles are known for working out well too so he's going to be top 10.

[BALLz]

I'm sure he'll be great and all be he's exactly what we don't need on the line. He's to small. Unless he can add 15lbs and keep the quickness I don't think he'd be a good fit here. Unless he can play OLB in a 4-3 def, then i'd be all for it.

[Fletch_Lives59]

please Ballz, you also backed Heath when he played here, there is a reason why you dont work in the front office...:cheers:

best D linemen in the country..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXJJ14HL5EE

[Spartacus87]

Here's my take on Brown:

He's going to be sick, just an absolute beast as a pass rushing DE in the NFL. He's got incredibly fast inside moves, including one of the quickest spin moves you'll see at the collegiate level. He's also not a slouch against the run and he's alright in coverage as well. He's just the total package all around.

Except...he's really best fit for a Tampa 2 defense. He's more in the mold of becoming the next Dwight Freeney, not like the next Jared Allen or Justin Tuck. With his quickness he's best fit for a scheme where the DEs just attack the QB, and we all know that's not how our defense is built.

Would he succeed here? Yeah, the guy's too talented not to make some kind of impact, but it probably wouldn't be worth the high pick we'd spend on the guy to get him, and it'd realistically be a waste of his talent since it would be the wrong system for him.

Put him on the Colts or Bucs and he would absolutely go off. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the Lions take a real close look at him, get him and Ernie Sims together.

[corrupt3d]

Another couple of players to watch are right in our own back yard...

1/ WR - Darrius Heyward-Bey. This guy has been a game breaker for the Terps. Has great hands, runs good routes, and has blazing speed

2/ RBs - Da'real (sp?) Scott. The guy has talent. And, despite a shoulder injury is racking them up.

3/ Safety - Kenny Barnes. Has speed, is excellent in coverage, and does know how to lay down the lumber. Just as the guy who spilled his cookies on the field. It was one of the most jarring hits I have seen in football (college or professional).


2. Da'rel...dude's a beast

3. Kevin plays CB (and with the type of hits he gets, you wouldn't believe that). He's out this year, and a senior, but since the injury occured to his shoulder blade, I can't see him not performing like he did.


As for the game, I don't wanna talk about it.

[aubreyjn]

I want the guy from Texas, Okabaku or whatever his name is. Dude is a monster, and will be a strongside DE in the NFL for years. He's like Daniels with speed and athletic ability.


:rotflmao:...... daniels is ..... athletic....

[Mr. Sinister]

I want the guy from Texas, Okabaku or whatever his name is. Dude is a monster, and will be a strongside DE in the NFL for years. He's like Daniels with speed and athletic ability.

You mean Irakpo?

[corrupt3d]

You mean Irakpo?


You mean Brian Orakpo?

[Mr. Sinister]

uhhh ... what? I mean yea, they did play terrible there, but Everette Brown has been eating up every offensive tackle hes faced for two years. Ive been watching the guy for a while and I knew that once we (FSU) played Maryland there would be a thread on him.

Maybe the complete domination by all d-line players had to do with the o-line but Brown dominates.

On those plays where they rolled turner out away from brown and let him run free, turner was supposed to have plenty of time to get the ball off. However, Everette was so damn fast he got to Turner real quick and blew up the whole play.

Anyways, the Skins do need a d-end like this ... but we also need a monster nose tackle to plug holes and keep blockers occupied.

Nose tackle? Since when did we start playing in a 3-4?

[pjfootballer]

Brandon Carter 6-7 / 354 He is definitely HUGE
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Him or Raji from BC. I want some real fat-asses at DT. Nothing less than 325.


That's more what I'm talking about. We need big guys in the middle who can take on double teams to free up outside rushers. We don't need another undersized end who will get doubleteamed.

I agree. We have enough speed rushers, we need someone to collapse the pocket and Monty, Griff and Golston just aren't doing it. I'll take DT in the first and OL in the 3rd. But if we can trade out of the first and get a couple of 2nds or a 2nd and 3rd then we could add a LB to that list of 3 picks. My dream draft for 2009, trade out of the 1st round like we did last year, take a DT, then OL, then SSLB. Perfect. The rest would be gravy.

[pjfootballer]

Nose tackle? Since when did we start playing in a 3-4?

You can play with a NT in a 4-3. Tony Siragusa was a NT in the Ravens defense in 2000 when they won the SB and yes, they played a 4-3.

Definition
The nose tackle is a defensive alignment position for a defensive lineman in American and Canadian football. The nose tackle aligns across the line of scrimmage from the offense's center before the play begins.


[edit] 4-3
In a tradn, like Tony Dungy's scheme, developed in Tampa Bay; or two small, athletic ends and two nose tackles, like the scheme used by the Baltimore Ravens during their 2000 championship season.


[edit] 3-4
In a 3-4 defensive scheme, the nose tackle is the sole defensive tackle, lining up directly opposite the center in the "0" position. Like the traditional 4-3, the nose tackle must occupy the center and one guard, however in the 3-4 it is typically the strongside guard. One defensive end then matches up with both the strongside tackle and tight end, while the other occupies the weakside guard and tackle. This leaves the outside linebackers free to pass-rush, creating the 3-4 scheme's distinctive pressure on the passing game.

[jrockster21]

:rotflmao:...... daniels is ..... athletic....

I said he's like Daniels with speed and athleticism. Maybe I needed an "except" in there to make it more clear?


You mean Brian Orakpo?

Yeah, that's the guy. He's a beast.

[ucfSKINS]

That's more what I'm talking about. We need big guys in the middle who can take on double teams to free up outside rushers. We don't need another undersized end who will get doubleteamed.

I believe he's their RG or LG, but either way, he's an O lineman.

[Spartacus87]

Him or Raji from BC. I want some real fat-asses at DT. Nothing less than 325. I want Raji so bad.

He's huge, and very athletic for his size.

He's really exactly what we need on our d-line.

[Hooper]

Maybe he'll drop down to the fourth round or lower. We all know Vinny doesn't believe in taking d-linemen any earlier.

[TheShredSkinz]

I want the guy from Texas, Okabaku or whatever his name is. Dude is a monster, and will be a strongside DE in the NFL for years. He's like Daniels with speed and athletic ability.

bumpster

[icbmayday]

Orakapo NICE