Deep Down We All Know Whats Going to Happen

[Mr. Sinister]

We will lose AGAIN, Campbell will get mercilessly slammed to the turf repeatedly( no less than 4 times) Portis will get crunched, Zorn will call multiple quick slants ( which are starting to irk me like Gibbs Jumbo package at midfield) the defense will hold the Ginas to field goals in the first half, but will tire in the second half and will start to give up touchdowns, while the Skins will go three and out for most of the first half, but will manage to move the ball in the second half, only to kick field goals, or to turn the ball over inside the 20. Honestly, the only good thing that I hope comes out of this is that Landry doesn't get baptized again by Jacobs.

It's laughable the way people are trying to hype up this game like its some marquee heavyweight rematch. If we lose by less than a touchdown, I'll consider it a win. People who think we can beat this team using the nickel package as our base D against Jacobs and Co. are on the egg nog a little too early. And for anyone who thinks I'm just being a doomsayer, let me give you some advice. Accept the fact that we are going to lose big while you still can, it will make the pain a lot more manageable when it finally happens

[warren]

I said this last year when we went to the NY during the 5 game win streak to end the year...never know.

[DGreenistheBest]

NNT please.

[Sandman69]

:bsflag:

Coughlin is that you?

[DaMuller7]

Hey man I've been trying to share the same feelings with my coworkers, but they are all saying they have "a feeling" things will go well for us on Sunday and we will win... Man I wish I could share their same enthusiasm, but I'm just going into this game realistically and not trying to get my heart broken.


Here's to hoping for a win because if we win this game I know we will have enough momentum and get into the playoffs. :cheers:

[jasjhughes]

You are wise beyond your years. Wish I disagreed with anything you said, but I don't.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Your doing the reverse psychology thing right?

PLEASE tell me he's doing the reverse psychology thing..... :(

Hail.

[redrobert]

Very positive attitude.... but I understand the thought.

"Any given Sunday...." This game will be much closer than most think, look for the Skins to go deep early and often.

[#98QBKiller]

And for anyone who thinks I'm just being a doomsayer, let me give you some advice.

We can tell by your screen name.

Look, the Giants are the best team in the NFL right now. So no ****, we are underdogs.

BUT

We don't need you in here with your Negative Nancy bull****. This is an NFC East divisional matchup which means anything goes.

Don't act like we don't have a chance because we have a good chance. The Giants just have a better chance.

[Chiefinonhaze]

ok cleo....any given sunday, that is probabaly what will happen, but anything can happen when its a division rival. We are going to be much hungrier than them, because we are honoring Taylor and fighting for a playoff spot. They basically have a playoff spot locked.

[MD.C RedskinsFan]

I have a feeling I'll see this thread again next week regardless of what happens on Sunday.

I can just feel it right now... somebody is plotting...

[Zhouse]

W/E man! It must suck to be a fan like you. Why bother watching the game then?

We have a lot of positives. Spings gets to play this time and he can cover Plexico better (if he plays).
Jacobs is dinged up and we learned our lesson about tackling him high last time around in the first quarter and adjusted beautifully.
The whole second half was evenly matched the first go round even though it was their home opener after winning the SB and it was our rookie HC first game.

We can definitely win this game. But please show up come Monday and bump this thread. I will gladly eat crow if you're right.

[santana_4_prez]

ilegninnam is that you?

[Henry]

I fully expect us to get crushed.

However, I will still watch the game because I am often wrong.

Also, I'm not going to bemoan losing until we actually, you know, lose.

[Mr. Sinister]

I said this last year when we went to the NY during the 5 game win streak to end the year...never know.

This is different, the Giants were a FAR worse team at this point last year. They were reeling when they played us, then they hung on against Buffalo, and then morphed into a completely different team. If we do win, I will be VERY happy, I'm just preparing myself for a loss now, so it does'nt put a stain on my couple of days off for Thanksgiving.

['SKINSRICH]

How'd that awesome win-loss record work out for the Patriots last season?
So it just goes to show you that you still HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME. Anything can happen. Just because they have the great record coming into this game, doesn't mean you just roll over for them. And no, losing by just a TD is still not considered a WIN. That's loser talk there..... And I for one will have no part in that. :mad:
:gaintsuck

[DieHard86]

c'mon dude. its a division game, at home, and the score is 0-0.

[Mr. Sinister]

We can tell by your screen name.

Look, the Giants are the best team in the NFL right now. So no ****, we are underdogs.

BUT

We don't need you in here with your Negative Nancy bull****. This is an NFC East divisional matchup which means anything goes.

Don't act like we don't have a chance because we have a good chance. The Giants just have a better chance.

Hey man, I wish I could find a way that we are going to win this game, but we are too beat up.

[#98QBKiller]

Hey man, I wish I could find a way that we are going to win this game, but we are too beat up.

The Giants are too. Plaxico and Brandon Jacobs are both question marks for this game.

[T-REX1240]

W/E man! It must suck to be a fan like you. Why bother watching the game then?

We have a lot of positives. Spings gets to play this time and he can cover Plexico better (if he plays).
Jacobs is dinged up and we learned our lesson about tackling him high last time around in the first quarter and adjusted beautifully.
The whole second half was evenly matched the first go round even though it was their home opener after winning the SB and it was our rookie HC first game.

We can definitely win this game. But please show up come Monday and bump this thread. I will gladly eat crow if you're right.

Masterfully done:applause:

[Mr. Sinister]

I have a feeling I'll see this thread again next week regardless of what happens on Sunday.

I can just feel it right now... somebody is plotting...

Shhhhhhhhhh

[MattFancy]

This is different, the Giants were a FAR worse team at this point last year. They were reeling when they played us, then they hung on against Buffalo, and then morphed into a completely different team. If we do win, I will be VERY happy, I'm just preparing myself for a loss now, so it does'nt put a stain on my couple of days off for Thanksgiving.

Aren't we in the same position as the Giants were last year? We are 7-4 but haven't been world beaters the last 6 games. We play well on the road like the Giants did last year and even though we are 7-4 we still are getting no respect. Yeah, we could lose and look bad in doing so. But we also could go back to playing the way we did during our 4 game winning streak and look amazing. Any given Sunday, that's why they play the game! :gaintsuck

[sellyoursol]

Deep down, you're right. I know.

Diz tiem goin to teh PALOFFS!!!

[kevin11]

I said this last year when we went to the NY during the 5 game win streak to end the year...never know.Yes, I thought there wasn't a chance in hell that we could've won that game. But, we smashed them.

I don't think this game will be a win, but We won't lose like we did in game 1. Something drastic has to change or we will sad come monday.

[maskedsuperstar]

We will lose AGAIN, Campbell will get mercilessly slammed to the turf repeatedly( no less than 4 times) Portis will get crunched, Zorn will call multiple quick slants ( which are starting to irk me like Gibbs Jumbo package at midfield) the defense will hold the Ginas to field goals in the first half, but will tire in the second half and will start to give up touchdowns, while the Skins will go three and out for most of the first half, but will manage to move the ball in the second half, only to kick field goals, or to turn the ball over inside the 20. Honestly, the only good thing that I hope comes out of this is that Landry does'nt get baptized again.

It's laughable the way people are trying to hype up this game like its some marquee heavyweight rematch. If we lose by less than a touchdown, I'll consider it a win. People who think we can beat this team using the nickel package as our base D against Jacobs and Co. wre on the egg nog a little early. And for anyone who thinks I'm just being a doomsayer, let me give you some advice. Accept the fact that we are going to lose big while you still can, it will make the pain a lot more manageable when it finally happens


Who said anything about using the nickel package? The Giants are the #1 rushing team in the league. Blache will not be using the nickel package.
It's hard to beat a team twice. Just remember that, fairweather.

[Brotherz]

Whats actually funnny to me about this game is that I don't have that sick feeling like I did last week. There is something kind of cool about having "no chance" to win a game. How can you be too dissappointed right? I agree with the OP that we don't have much of a chance in this game. The Giants are a fantastic team. They are balanced, well coached, and incredibly physical. They SHOULD beat us. I was way sicker last week. Especially during the game. That is a game we just COULD NOT lose and we were stinking up the joint for the most part. But if this week we have the same type of game against this team I will be thrilled the whole game! If somehow we are down by less than 10 in the fourth quarter I can watch the game feeling like we have a shot against the best team in football hands down. There is no real downside to rooting in this game. We lose, and its like "oh well, the Giants are awesome - they beat up everyone they play". We win . . "WOOOOO HOOOO!!" we shock the world, stare down the barrel of the Ravens who would then look incredibly beatable and we are starting to think we are as good as anyone else again. Its all upside baby!!

[KingSprings]

Very positive attitude.... but I understand the thought.

"Any given Sunday...." This game will be much closer than most think, look for the Skins to go deep early and often.

Well if this is the case the O-line better step it up. To go deep Campbell needs time and this has not been happening recently.

[VaK9Trainer]

Put me down as one of those people who "have a feeling" about this game. Maybe it will be the Sean Taylor karma, I dont know, but I see us winning this game.

[Mark The Homer]

We will lose AGAIN, ...Way to keep up the optimism. I bet in late September and early October, you made similar posts. Good thing the players and coaches don't think the way you do.

[dcnativenerd]

REALLY hope you're wrong, my friend. I really hope you're wrong.

[Mr. Sinister]

Who said anything about using the nickel package? The Giants are the #1 rushing team in the league. Blache will not be using the nickel package.
It's hard to beat a team twice. Just remember that, fairweather.

Judging from Zorns direct words in his Monday presser, he said that it could happen because if Fletcher and Washington don't play, then we won't have the linebackers to run a base 4-3 effectively.

[RedskinsNation]

I wasnt sure if I wanted to watch the game or not but since this thread has been started/established and I was told we are going to lose I think im going to find something better to do with my Sunday between the hours of 1pm-4pm.

Watching this game would be a waste of time.

[nace14]

after the loss to dallas, i posted a thread on here asking the mods to ban me for a week b/c i could not stand coming to this site after a loss and reading all the chicken little threads. now we win and you come back with a thread like this. are we philly fans or redskins fans?

let me enlighten you on some reasons to be hopeful for this game: rogers, springs, and hall v. ?plax?, toomer, hixon and/or smith. you want to run a three receiver set against our three cb's...bring it on. we'll drop one deep on you and bring 7 up the middle on you and watch eli throw off his back foot all day long.

you want another reason? ok, moss, el, kelly vs. ross, webster, dockery. you want to rush heavy up-field on the outside with tuck and kiwinuka? fine, i'll take that slant route from kelly all day long against your tiny cbs. and then maybe in 3rd quarter or so, i'll motion moss into the slot and have him run and out-n-up in front of kelly's slant and hit him on a 70 yard pump fake all alone.

i'll give NY some credit for beating Bmore at home, but they haven't matched up against a group of cover corners like we have all year long who can take away the passing game on their own. look at their schedule, it ain't that impressive boys.

you can't look at the records and say this game is over before it starts, you have to look at the match ups and see how the game progresses. to be perfectly honest, i love how we match up against them. bring it on!

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

OP,

After we win on Sunday how about you never show your face around here again?

[BryanS]

Delete this post.

[Mr. Sinister]

nace14 it doesn't matter who you you have in your secondary if you can't get pressure on the QB. We could have D. Green Mel Blount, Ronnie lott and Jacl Tatum and it still would'nt matter cause we can't get consistent pressure.

[Dick Edds]

Whats actually funnny to me about this game is that I don't have that sick feeling like I did last week. There is something kind of cool about having "no chance" to win a game. How can you be too dissappointed right? I agree with the OP that we don't have much of a chance in this game. The Giants are a fantastic team. They are balanced, well coached, and incredibly physical. They SHOULD beat us. I was way sicker last week. Especially during the game. That is a game we just COULD NOT lose and we were stinking up the joint for the most part. But if this week we have the same type of game against this team I will be thrilled the whole game! If somehow we are down by less than 10 in the fourth quarter I can watch the game feeling like we have a shot against the best team in football hands down. There is no real downside to rooting in this game. We lose, and its like "oh well, the Giants are awesome - they beat up everyone they play". We win . . "WOOOOO HOOOO!!" we shock the world, stare down the barrel of the Ravens who would then look incredibly beatable and we are starting to think we are as good as anyone else again. Its all upside baby!!


true this! I sense there is a hail storm a brewing ... I got my rain jacket and water boots ready for the **** to hit the fan. I have a good feeling about this game. Doesn't meant that won't change at some point during the game. But, we have a lot to play for and a lot of play makers on this team. We are no spring chickens, we play football too. Hail to em!

[Mr. Sinister]

OP,

After we win on Sunday how about you never show your face around here again?

lol, won't happen dude

[Pitbull]

Man, I been reading all week long how we will just get crushed by the Giants, and its starting to pluck a nerve with me. Teams line up all the time and win games that they were not expected to win. Yeah we are honoring Sean Taylor, but thats one small portion of why I believe soley in my heart why we will win this game.

I believe we will win this game because we will play to win this game. The NFL is about match ups and schemes, thats why bad teams will play good teams tough due to their personnel match ups and schemes. Now if you can tell me a game this year that we didnt stand a chance in, or a game where we have just been blown off the field due to the other team being that much more dominant, then I might agree that we might not stand a chance.

Every team we have played win or lose weve played tough, I'm personally looking forward to watching this game. GB has had our defense ready for every game, our offense has struggled, but has shown that we can move the ball, and Jim Zorn and J.C. is smart enough to get the ball in our play makers hands, and they will make plays. Go Skins I still believe!

Redskins- 24
Giants - 20

[MustangSteve]

Put me down as one of those people who "have a feeling" about this game. Maybe it will be the Sean Taylor karma, I dont know, but I see us winning this game.
Im with that :point2sky
The last time I had a feeling this strong, we blew out Dallas 35-7

[kuraitengai]

We can tell by your screen name.

Look, the Giants are the best team in the NFL right now. So no ****, we are underdogs.

BUT

We don't need you in here with your Negative Nancy bull****. This is an NFC East divisional matchup which means anything goes.

Don't act like we don't have a chance because we have a good chance. The Giants just have a better chance.
what he said...

perhaps the OP should keep his idiotic negative thoughts to himself.

[Mr. Sinister]

Well if this is the case the O-line better step it up. To go deep Campbell needs time and this has not been happening recently.


BINGO someone give this person a prize

[kuraitengai]

This is different, the Giants were a FAR worse team at this point last year. They were reeling when they played us, then they hung on against Buffalo, and then morphed into a completely different team. If we do win, I will be VERY happy, I'm just preparing myself for a loss now, so it does'nt put a stain on my couple of days off for Thanksgiving.
now thats just about the stupidest comment ive read on here. and thats saying something.

you are preparing for the loss so it doesnt stain your days off? um. the game is sunday. you most likely have thursday and friday off, therefore the game is played AFTER your days off and will NOT affect them. if we lose sunday, it will affect your first few days of work next week, not the days you have off BEFORE the game is even played. so you are screwing up your days off and the weekend by preparing for something that hasnt happened yet.

way to go and prove wrong what whoever said about you being wise beyond your years...

[RedskinsNation]

In all seriousness.....I am the king pesimist around here.

The Monday after the Dallas loss I predicted we'd beat Seattle and then stun the NYG at FEDEX...thats my prediction...call it a gut. I cant explain it.

For games we are supposed to win i get nervous...and games where we are given NO SHOT like this week vs. NYG I am so relaxed - weird.

HTTR!

[WVUforREDSKINS]

Put me down as one of those people who "have a feeling" about this game. Maybe it will be the Sean Taylor karma, I dont know, but I see us winning this game.

Same here....last time I had this feeling was when we went to Dallas

Remember people, we are not the same team we were in week 1

[WVUforREDSKINS]

BIg plays catches by Thomas and Kelly this game

[fire3fighter4]

Silence!

PALOFFS IS NOW!!!

[G1]

Does anyone think we have less of a chance than when we went to texas Stadium earlier this year?

When you think about that, don't think about the Cowpukes now, think about what they were doing back then.

We're at home, this is the NFC East and I sure hope our players and staff have more balls than some of our "fans" have.

[fire3fighter4]

We're at home,
That isn't nearly as much as an advantage as people think it is considering our home game record....

[aubreyjn]

nope sorry, too much Sean T emotion... remember when we went into NY after Mara died.... their emotion lead to Tiki havin over 200 yrds on the ground



:dallasuck:eaglesuck:gaintsuck:dallasuck:dallasuck

[Brotherz]

nope sorry, too much Sean T emotion... remember when we went into NY after Mara died.... their emotion lead to Tiki havin over 200 yrds on the ground



:dallasuck:eaglesuck:gaintsuck:dallasuck:dallasuck

THIS I totally disagree with. I am all for "hey we can go man on their recievers now that we have Hall and Springs in there", "Plax and Jacobs are banged up", "we are better than week 1", "we need it way more than them" etc etc. But the emotion of ST being put in the ring of fame I think is just meaningless. I remember that Bills game last year. I can't imagine more emotion than that. They were playing for Sean's parents and they lost to the stinkin Bills. I will NEVER forget the pain of that moment. It was the worse loss I have ever felt while walking out of our stadium. We aren't going to win this game on emotion. We will win this game if we do win it on smart, sound, mistake free football and some bounces are way.

[Mr. Sinister]

Its kind of funny how the people who are angry about the things I said are probably the same people who are going to start the cut JC, fire Zorn, and play Colt Brennan threads on Monday. And for those who say that I am bashing the Skins, this is not a bash ing thread, this is an acceptance thread. I love my team just as much as the next Skins fan. Not once have I ever started a fire the coach , get a GM , or an I hate Snyder thread, EVER. The bottom line is that we have'nt played well in the last month and a half, and every time we have had a chance to make a statement against a great D this year, we have failed miserably. If we win , I will eat my crow happily, but I refuse to get my heart broken again, so alls I'm doing is preparing for an L.

[BigRay]

Have a little faith here didn't the Browns beat them. The Browns is not a good team . I'm not making no prediction here but I think we have just a good enough shot as they did beating them.

[Dick Edds]

THIS I totally disagree with. I am all for "hey we can go man on their recievers now that we have Hall and Springs in there", "Plax and Jacobs are banged up", "we are better than week 1", "we need it way more than them" etc etc. But the emotion of ST being put in the ring of fame I think is just meaningless. I remember that Bills game last year. I can't imagine more emotion than that. They were playing for Sean's parents and they lost to the stinkin Bills. I will NEVER forget the pain of that moment. It was the worse loss I have ever felt while walking out of our stadium. We aren't going to win this game on emotion. We will win this game if we do win it on smart, sound, mistake free football and some bounces are way.

we may not win it on emotion, but if that emotion can carry us early in the first quarter to some positive plays and points, that could very well have a huge impact on the outcome of the game.

I agree, at some point you settle down and get into a rhythm, but to completely dismiss the ST factor is overlooking what he meant to this team and not giving enough credit to how greatly he has affected the players on this team. In order to win we will need to have emotion, and smarts, and toughness and belief when times are looking rough.

I think we will show up BIG for this game, just a feeling.

[Dick Edds]

Its kind of funny how the people who are angry about the things I said are probably the same people who are going to start the cut JC, fire Zorn, and play Colt Brennan threads on Monday. And for those who say that I am bashing the Skins, this is not a bash ing thread, this is an acceptance thread. I love my team just as much as the next Skins fan. Not once have I ever started a fire the coach , get a GM , or an I hate Snyder thread, EVER. The bottom line is that we have'nt played well in the last month and a half, and every time we have had a chance to make a statement against a great D this year, we have failed miserably. If we win , I will eat my crow happily, but I refuse to get my heart broken again, so alls I'm doing is preparing for an L.

hey ... if "pre-defeat speeches" is your way of easing the pain after a loss, have at it.

I've weathered greater storms with this team in the past though, and personally I see no reason to lay down now, as a fan. It won't hurt anymore than the Bills game last year, that's for sure.

[Mr. Sinister]

BIg plays catches by Thomas and Kelly this game

OMG, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! Its week 13, these guys are ROOKIES. There is a reason why rookie WRs don't do much in their first year, especially in a WCO, because it's HARD. People have been saying this every week since the start of the season. These guys will be playmakers in time. Right now they have to learn and adjust to the NFL game.All you people want is instant success when we draft guys. It does'nt happen like that. Look at Rocky Macintosh, hell even Sean Taylor, who everyone as ripping Gibbs before the 06 season for drafting, saying that all he was good for was a 15 yard penalty, and look at the player he became. To everyone saying that Vinny was stupid for drafting another guy from the U with a degenerative knee condition , and that all he was good for was playing on special teams, and look at the player HE became. Patience is the key

[CallMeGreen]

Doomsday, you're entitled to your prediction about an upcoming loss. The way the Skins have played in the past several weeks really shouldn't make too many people think that we have better than an even a slight chance of winning.

I'm still in the group of folks, small that it may be, that the Giants aren't as good as everyone thinks they are. Throw in the fact that this is now a must-win for us (we lose, Dallas pulls ahead of us). And while the Taylor tribute may or may not be an emotional lift, the fact that this game is against a division rival tells us there's a real good chance of the score being close.

So prepare yourself mentally for the loss if you must, but prepare for a large heaping of post-Thanksgiving Crow if you're wrong. And FWIW, it's not really difficult or even necessary to spout forth bold predictions that the logical favorite will win. Anyone can do that? So why even bother?

[NeueRedskinWelle]

Giants have the playoffs locked. We have more to play for.

It's not always about who's better. It's about who wants it more.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

lol, won't happen dude

....and if you are so sure, it should be easy to say that you won't be back should we win.

[TheLongshot]

I expect that this will be a good game. Our defense without Springs held this team to their lowest point total all season. They've been pretty good at containing any team's passing game. The Giants will get their yards on the ground, which will mean a relatively low scoring game.

It all comes down to if we can move things on offense, which was the big issue the first time around.

[Neophyte]

I can't say I expect to win but I am not expecting a blow out either. Remember, this defense has been holding offenses below their scoring average all season long. In the opener they shut the Giants out in the second half of a game that was too close in the scoring department for any team to get conservative.

[WVUforREDSKINS]

OMG, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! Its week 13, these guys are ROOKIES. There is a reason why rookie WRs don't do much in their first year, especially in a WCO, because it's HARD. People have been saying this every week since the start of the season. These guys will be playmakers in time. Right now they have to learn and adjust to the NFL game.All you people want is instant success when we draft guys. It does'nt happen like that. Look at Rocky Macintosh, hell even Sean Taylor, who everyone as ripping Gibbs before the 06 season for drafting, saying that all he was good for was a 15 yard penalty, and look at the player he became. To everyone saying that Vinny was stupid for drafting another guy from the U with a degenerative knee condition , and that all he was good for was playing on special teams, and look at the player HE became. Patience is the key

Desean Jackson and Brandon Marshall do quite a bit.


We are seeing more and more of them each week. No reason why this can't be the game we finally see something.

[hiswadeness]

Well thanks for the insight into the game. I guess I dont have to watch. Wait nevermind This is why players play and fans (if I can even call you a fan) dont.

[Mr. Sinister]

Desean Jackson and Brandon Marshall do quite a bit.


We are seeing more and more of them each week. No reason why this can't be the game we finally see something.

Brandon Marshall is'nt a rookie and Jackson really has'nt done that much lately, and by the way, the only reason why he's starting for philly isbecause he was the most polished route-runner coming out of the draftand he's basically the only weapon they have at WR.

[Mr. Grundle]

I fully expect us to get dismantled at the line of scrimmage and lose, casting a spotlight again on the difference in philosophy of two GM's and why one is successful and one isn't. Then I read this post:


Giants have the playoffs locked. We have more to play for.

It's not always about who's better. It's about who wants it more.

I think you may be right, it just might be that simple. We definitely got a shot.

[Chump Bailey]

I am obviously worried about the pass protection, but I do think this is a winnable game for the Redskins.

[Skinsfan1311]

We have shot. A real shot, because we need this game.

I'm not going to bash for your opinion. While overwhelmingly negative, you do have some valid points, but I sure as hell wouldn't share a foxhole with you.......

[alex2792]

This game will be UGLY, barring a miracle this will be a drubbing of monumental proportions. I think scoring an offensive TD is pretty much the best we can hope for.

Giants 35
Skins 3

:(

[SkinsSyco4Life]

I argee.... "Deep Down I Know What Is Going To Happen"


We are going to knock the snot out of the N.Y. Gaints!!


There I said it......... I feel much better now.

:cheers:

[Chief skin]

I hope they can pull it out but reality is NY is a better team

[stoney26]

This game will be UGLY, barring a miracle this will be a drubbing of monumental proportions. I think scoring an offensive TD is pretty much the best we can hope for.

Giants 35
Skins 3

:(

Lol....get real man. You think our players are going to let that happen on Sean Taylor day?? GTFO.

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

I hope they can pull it out but reality is NY is a better teamReality Bites.

[alex2792]

Lol....get real man. You think our players are going to let that happen on Sean Taylor day?? GTFO.


Thats nice and all but ST's spirit doesn't play QB or pass block. The Gmen will stop our run game and force us to pass. JC doesn't scare anyone with his arm and Jon Jansen couldn't pass protect against some pee wee leaguers. Sorry to rain on your parade, just being a realist.

[Cooooley47]

I tend to agree with the OP on this one. The Skins have not shown that they can protect JC. Even the Seahawks got 2 sacks against the Skins. Thats terrible. And lets not kid ourselves, the Giants will be able to get pressure just by bringing their down linemen. I am going to watch this game of course, and I do believe they can win. But I find it very hard to believe it will happen.

This game is a big test for Zorn. Can he look at game film and make the right adjustments to win the game a second time around. He is going to have to figure out a way to keep the pressure off JC without relying on the O-line. Its going to have to happen by design and not by trying to match our talent against theirs.

[SkinsSyco4Life]

I hope they can pull it out but reality is NY is a better team

Reality?

Does the in "Reality" better team always win?

That is why they play the game.

:cheers:

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

Thats nice and all but ST's spirit doesn't play QB or pass block. The Gmen will stop our run game and force us to pass. JC doesn't scare anyone with his arm and Jon Jansen couldn't pass protect against some pee wee leaguers. Sorry to rain on your parade, just being a realist.I bet you're a blast at parties.

[ucfSKINS]

Its kind of funny how the people who are angry about the things I said are probably the same people who are going to start the cut JC, fire Zorn, and play Colt Brennan threads on Monday. And for those who say that I am bashing the Skins, this is not a bash ing thread, this is an acceptance thread. I love my team just as much as the next Skins fan. Not once have I ever started a fire the coach , get a GM , or an I hate Snyder thread, EVER. The bottom line is that we have'nt played well in the last month and a half, and every time we have had a chance to make a statement against a great D this year, we have failed miserably. If we win , I will eat my crow happily, but I refuse to get my heart broken again, so alls I'm doing is preparing for an L.

Good for you, but why start a thread about it?

You're not going to persuade anyone to feel the same way, so its pretty much a waste of time.

much like my response to this post/thread. :doh:

[WVUforREDSKINS]

Brandon Marshall is'nt a rookie and Jackson really has'nt done that much lately, and by the way, the only reason why he's starting for philly isbecause he was the most polished route-runner coming out of the draftand he's basically the only weapon they have at WR.

Your right.

I meant Eddie Royal. Who is a rookie that is making a hell of an impact.

[RAAZ227]

What else does your crystal ball have to say?

[Truant]

That attitude must make you really popular with the ladies.

[Forehead]

Its kind of funny how the people who are angry about the things I said are probably the same people who are going to start the cut JC, fire Zorn, and play Colt Brennan threads on Monday. And for those who say that I am bashing the Skins, this is not a bash ing thread, this is an acceptance thread. I love my team just as much as the next Skins fan. Not once have I ever started a fire the coach , get a GM , or an I hate Snyder thread, EVER.

How about this one, where you decided Sellers was long in the tooth and that we needed to draft Jacob Hester to replace him? Or does your "Not once" claim only extend to the front office or Jason Campbell. Sellers is playing out of his mind this year, by the way.

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=226521

Or this one, where in the last paragraph, you quite clearly refer to Dan Snyder as a "stupid owner" and say that you'd be "the first to call for his head on a platter if the team blows up." I don't know about you, but decapitation would be a sign of hatred in my book.

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=235576

You're just a damn dirty liar aren't you?;)

How about canning the pessimism for a little while and hoping against hope that we can pull something out. Hell, who expected the Falcons to be 7-4 with a rookie coach/QB this season. More to the point, who expected Cleveland to beat the Giants earlier this season? I'm concerned as well, but I still have faith.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Well if thats the case.....who wants my tickets. It will save me the trip.






That was a joke!

[S.T.real,lights,out]

How about this one, where you decided Sellers was long in the tooth and that we needed to draft Jacob Hester to replace him? Or does your "Not once" claim only extend to the front office or Jason Campbell. Sellers is playing out of his mind this year, by the way.

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=226521

Or this one, where in the last paragraph, you quite clearly refer to Dan Snyder as a "stupid owner" and say that you'd be "the first to call for his head on a platter if the team blows up." I don't know about you, but decapitation would be a sign of hatred in my book.

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=235576

You're just a damn dirty liar aren't you?;)

How about canning the pessimism for a little while and hoping against hope that we can pull something out. Hell, who expected the Falcons to be 7-4 with a rookie coach/QB this season. More to the point, who expected Cleveland to beat the Giants earlier this season? I'm concerned as well, but I still have faith.

I like it!!!! :applause:

[herb mul-key]

I am sick of the Giants owning us at Fed-Ex...sick of it...also we have lost two big games at home in a row...we need to win this one!

This game will tell so much about Zorn and Blache and our team...

[Rdskns2000]

We are going to get crushed. Though miracles can happen.

[Forehead]

Thats nice and all but ST's spirit doesn't play QB or pass block. The Gmen will stop our run game and force us to pass. JC doesn't scare anyone with his arm and Jon Jansen couldn't pass protect against some pee wee leaguers. Sorry to rain on your parade, just being a realist.


I bet you're a blast at parties.

After reading the OP, and another contribution by our newest resident dumbass Alex, I've concluded that in the Boogie Nights game of life, Doomsday and Alex are these two.

http://freshbread.blogs.com/fresh_bread/images/2008/03/02/hoffman_2.jpg

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BOTgyNTQ5MTkzMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNzc3OTk2._V1._ SX387_SY400_.jpg

[Mr. Sinister]

What else does your crystal ball have to say?

That the Earth will be destroyed by a tidal wave wave of biblical proportions in 2012, and that mankinds only hope for survival would be to band together and use every nations funding in order to colonize on Mars.

[AzSkinsFan63]

If Tampa Bay can lose to Dallas with Brad Johnson..what a joke of a game aided by officiating and Garcia tanking it inside the 20.

The Skins can positively squeek out a win against the Giants at home.

Will they?? Find out Sunday.

[COOLeyCatchTds]

THIS I totally disagree with. I am all for "hey we can go man on their recievers now that we have Hall and Springs in there", "Plax and Jacobs are banged up", "we are better than week 1", "we need it way more than them" etc etc. But the emotion of ST being put in the ring of fame I think is just meaningless. I remember that Bills game last year. I can't imagine more emotion than that. They were playing for Sean's parents and they lost to the stinkin Bills. I will NEVER forget the pain of that moment. It was the worse loss I have ever felt while walking out of our stadium. We aren't going to win this game on emotion. We will win this game if we do win it on smart, sound, mistake free football and some bounces are way.

I agree with Brotherz, well said.

I think you guys are being a little harsh to the OP. I'll be in front of my tv for every last second of the game sunday because I NEVER miss a game, EVER. But Im more of a realist than most. Defensively, I love how we match up against anyone in the league. We may not dominate defensively like past SB defenses who carried an average offense, but we're close to it. Our problem is the same as its been for years now, our offense can't put points on the board. And until they do, I wont be confident going into ANY game, let alone the 10-1 SB Champs and their insane front four. This team has trouble beating below average teams so its amazing to me that we're almost always in the game until the bitter end against really good teams. Thats why I cannot and will not say we WILL lose this game...., but I wont flame someone for predicting what the team has shown us for over a month. Whether we've won or lost, the OP described our play to a T.

Heres to hoping for a W! :cheers:

[Fan035]

I'd feel better if we didn't have so many injuries. Nonetheless, I'm hoping, by some miracle, we pull an upset.

[F-16 CHIEF]

Very positive attitude.... but I understand the thought.

"Any given Sunday...." This game will be much closer than most think, look for the Skins to go deep early and often.

WHAT????

Deep?

This offense?

Often?

Try never.

Face it, Zorn will not go deep. His starting QB, even when given time shows that he's not willing to go deep. He's a dump off QB. Zorn calls short pass plays to help JC out. He can't handle 4 wide out's streaking down the field. He just can't. Zorn can't think up of any decent plays to help minimize our horrible line. If he did, we'd be in shotgun all day or rolling out every play.

[corrupt3d]

WHAT????

Deep?

This offense?

Often?

Try never.

Face it, Zorn will not go deep. His starting QB, even when given time shows that he's not willing to go deep. He's a dump off QB. Zorn calls short pass plays to help JC out. He can't handle 4 wide out's streaking down the field. He just can't. Zorn can't think up of any decent plays to help minimize our horrible line. If he did, we'd be in shotgun all day or rolling out every play.



His starting QB has thrown deep, but now doesn't have the time to do so. So rather than taking the sack, he'll dump it off because there's nothing available downfield.



You act as though JC has never gone downfield, he attempted it at least 4 times in the Seattle game.

[Norvitis]

Excellent post. Reality is not a commodity valued by the delusional homers that make up 95 percent of this Redskins-owned site.
The Giants will roll over the Redskins 24-3 and Jansen once again will be embarrassed as poor Campbell is roughed up mercilessly and perhaps knocked out for remainder of season.
The 'Skins will fall into third place as the Cowboys mug the Seahawks.

[Toe Jam]

I hope you have an absolutely rotten Thanksgiving.

[1972FAN]

We will lose AGAIN, Campbell will get mercilessly slammed to the turf repeatedly( no less than 4 times) Portis will get crunched, Zorn will call multiple quick slants ( which are starting to irk me like Gibbs Jumbo package at midfield) the defense will hold the Ginas to field goals in the first half, but will tire in the second half and will start to give up touchdowns, while the Skins will go three and out for most of the first half, but will manage to move the ball in the second half, only to kick field goals, or to turn the ball over inside the 20. Honestly, the only good thing that I hope comes out of this is that Landry does'nt get baptized again.

It's laughable the way people are trying to hype up this game like its some marquee heavyweight rematch. If we lose by less than a touchdown, I'll consider it a win. People who think we can beat this team using the nickel package as our base D against Jacobs and Co. wre on the egg nog a little early. And for anyone who thinks I'm just being a doomsayer, let me give you some advice. Accept the fact that we are going to lose big while you still can, it will make the pain a lot more manageable when it finally happens

Thanks for lighting a fire under our @#$%^^ I appreciate it :) Will see ya Sunday.

[Mooka]

And yet we still watch the game.

Strange thing this "sports."

[BigMike619]

We can tell by your screen name.

Look, the Giants are the best team in the NFL right now. So no ****, we are underdogs.

BUT

We don't need you in here with your Negative Nancy bull****. This is an NFC East divisional matchup which means anything goes.

Don't act like we don't have a chance because we have a good chance. The Giants just have a better chance.

baaaaaaahahahahaa..get em 99!!

its people like this that I tell to shut up and move away from me at the bar. :cheers:

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

Excellent post. Reality is not a commodity valued by the delusional homers that make up 95 percent of this Redskins-owned site.
The Giants will roll over the Redskins 24-3 and Jansen once again will be embarrassed as poor Campbell is roughed up mercilessly and perhaps knocked out for remainder of season.
The 'Skins will fall into third place as the Cowboys mug the Seahawks.http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/jcrew2/Suicide.png

[Clutch03]

I've given this rant before but here it goes again. Fan is short for "fanatic". Fanatic is defined as "a person motivated by irrational enthusiasm". The keyword is irrational that means that us FANS still watch the games because we believe no matter what the odds are. So its hard for me to label you as a FAN if you don't believe there is any possibly way for us to win this game.

When did the Giants become this great team that nobody can touch? You must be watching different games then I have. They definitely don't look as good as the Patriots did last year around this time. I agree they are a good team but didn't Dallas have a record like theirs this time last year? How did that turn out?

I suggest not watching the game it all because it doesn't look like you will be happy either way. I can agree that it will be tough to win but to call yourself a fan and not believe that there is anyway to win this game is just sad.

[Mr. Sinister]

I like it!!!! :applause:

Lol, okay this attempt is like a half assed political attack ad. I said that that I would be the first to call for his head on a platter IF THE TEAM BLOWS UP IN FRONT OF OUR EYES, and if your the knowledgeable football fan that I hope you are( even though you appear not to be) you know that when a team "blows up" it usually means that said team suffers excruciating blowout losses, coupled by boneheaded aqcuisitions, along with a putrid win/loss record, which ultimately ends with the players turning on the coaching staff, along with the eventual firing of the head coach.

In this case, genius, WHO WOULD'NT BE CALLING FOR SOME MAJOR CHANGES TO BE MADE. If you read the entire post, and I'm sure you did'nt, then you would see that I had was referring to that situation as a worst case scenario, and I was clearly being an optimist while everyone else was ready to go on a witch hunt. I said we should GIVE SNYDER A CHANCE, and it has obviously worked out. As for Sellers he 's a great blocker, and serviceable all around player when he's not trying to swan dive on a third and 1, but, obviously, he's no spring chicken, and he's not always reliable when we need him the most( see last week). Nice try douchebag.

[Mooka]

Please explain why you're so smart predicting a loss to the 10-1 defending SB champion Giants again?

[Mr. Sinister]

For all you blind homers out there who think that you can attack me even though I was not bashing the team, merely stating the obvious, I want to see what you have to see if we do get blown out. All you guys do is say that we will roll over our opponent every week and always give meaningless keys to the game. You want keys to the game, heres your keys:

1.) Tuck vs. Jansen ( likely major ownage)

2.) Giants run game that destroyed the Ravens vs. banged up D-line and depleted LB corp( likely major ownage)

It's as simple as that

[vainglory]

this game will be close up until the end of the first quarter and from there we will wear thin and fall into submission. i hope i am wrong but zorn and this team have not proved we can beat ANYONE easily and therefore we should expect to be 7-5. And then we should hope we can finally beat an aggressive defense in baltimore, but i am not too confident in that either.

[Mr. Sinister]

I hope you have an absolutely rotten Thanksgiving.

Same to you, lol

[Robbynice]

Well win, lose, or draw, it is always going to be Redskins for life!

[CounterTrey]

While I don;t dissagree with anything the Op said, I hope our players rise to the occasion and somehow pull out a win. I hope they remember the way ST played and use that emotional high to win this game. plus we normally split with our Divisional opponents so I'm hoping we win.

[pjfootballer]

I agree with Brotherz, well said.

I think you guys are being a little harsh to the OP. I'll be in front of my tv for every last second of the game sunday because I NEVER miss a game, EVER. But Im more of a realist than most. Defensively, I love how we match up against anyone in the league. We may not dominate defensively like past SB defenses who carried an average offense, but we're close to it. Our problem is the same as its been for years now, our offense can't put points on the board. And until they do, I wont be confident going into ANY game, let alone the 10-1 SB Champs and their insane front four. This team has trouble beating below average teams so its amazing to me that we're almost always in the game until the bitter end against really good teams. Thats why I cannot and will not say we WILL lose this game...., but I wont flame someone for predicting what the team has shown us for over a month. Whether we've won or lost, the OP described our play to a T.

Heres to hoping for a W! :cheers:

Good post. I feel the same way. You are the rationale in a sea of irrationality in this thread. :applause:

[ldysknzfn1]

You have an appropriate screen name for this post.

I hope we can pull a win out of the ol' hat. Do I expect one? Not really.

Do I hope your scenario doesn't play out? Yes

Anything's possible. See this past Sunday's Jets/Titans game or the Browns/Giants game from not that long ago.

[Brooklynskinsfan]

i agree but i hope im wrong we cant do anything against teams with dominant lines

[TGI Jef]

for whatever reason, i just have the opposite feeling of the OP.

what he is describing is what i felt before the Pittsburgh gme and, to an extent, before the Dallas game.

i feel great about this one. i think we are going to pound the giants.

[yonisredskins]

I share the sentiments that we may be outmatched this Sunday. Of all the games we've played, the one coming up scares me but I will be screaming my lungs out the entire game rooting for my team regardless of the outcome.

[AllBusiness]

Getting to Eli early in the game, and rattling him equalizes everything.
Zorn is going to release the hounds. He's got to. I am excited about this game. Not sKurrd!

[revallenjr]

That is what was said in week 4. And for those who forgot. We dominated the once Super Bowl Dream team:)

[Ghent]

If this was a must win game to make the playoffs I think we'd win it. Sometimes I feel like this team can only win big games when our backs are up against the wall. We'll probably lose the next two then win the final three and make the playoffs.

[skinned em']

If the Browns can ***** slap 'em, I know we can.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

This thread sucks. The Redskins can beat the Giants and the Giants can beat the Redskins. This is just the way things work in the NFC east. There's no reason to believe one team has the advantage.

Dallas was 0-11? when they played Washington one year and actually won. They finished the year 1-15. It happens and to think otherwise is just stupid. I recommend you go somewhere else on Sunday away from the TV and you avoid this thread when you get back.

[Buck812]

I wonder how many pages this thread will be if we win??? Which btw, I think we will.

[rocnrik]

Whats more likely to happen is the SKINS beat the GIANTS and LOSE to the BENGALS or 49ERS..and miss the playoffs..:D..what I hope is that RAMS loss does not cost us a playoff trip..

[eppykid]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion..however, what was your view when we went to Texas Stadium or the Link in September???Did you think we'd win? You never know. The Giants are a better team at this point BUT..the better team doesn't always win. Emotions will run strong following the Taylor tribute, if we can get an early lead, some turnovers, make Eli uncomfy with some pics...keep the faith and think positive. You can be positive or negative, your choice, but I choose to head to Fed Ex and root like hell for the Skins!!!

[NomadicSkinFan]

We'll be playing with an extra man this weekend. That has to count for something.

[StepyagameuP]

The only problem with this thread is that now you guys give other Giants fans the satisfaction of knowing that their team gives some of us the jeepers. Step ya game up, poker face it!

Damn! Somebody Encrypt this thread, like, right now! :)

[ECU-ALUM]

Hey if we know what's going to happen then why even play the game? Let's just call the whole ****in thing off!!!!

Gimme a damn break...none of us knows what going to happen...the emotion of the day is going to seriously fire up this team...not to mention Portis & Moss.

Whether or not that will be enough to carry this team...who knows? Do you think the Cleveland Browns "Knew" what was going to happen? Or the Jets last weekend?

[Xero21]

I don't know that that will happen at all. Not on the surface or deep down for that matter.

I do not claim to know the future before it happens. I am not that self-centered as to think I am all-knowing. Though I am not blind, I refuse to ignore the fact that anything can happen.

Fate has an interesting way of showing itself, so I'll save any judgement until I witness what unfolds at that time.

Until then,

Hail To The Redskins.

[CTSkins413]

Amazing!

The NY Gina's are tough! Arguably the best in the NFL.

SO WHAT!!!!!

On the day we put #21 in the rafters, I don't care who comes in here, WE WILL WIN!!!

Just like Wellington Mara. We were the better team, but we went to thier house and got spanked. The intangibles brother! Never underestimate the power of love for your fallen teammate and the pure rivalry with your enemy!

HAIL!!!!

[bulldog]

Then why watch the games? :)

If the Cleveland Browns could beat the Giants so can the Redskins. In fact from previous experience when an NFC East team has a 'special' season as the Giants are having in 2008 one of the losses is usually to a division rival on the road, regardless of their record.

[Evilskinzfan47]

NNT please.

Why?
For voicing his opinion?
I see hundreds of pointless threads on here.
Perhaps you should get a NNP?(no new posts)

[GIBBS LIVES]

The skins have to be the aggressors in this game. It's just that simple. Be the aggressor and continue to attack for the whole game.

[hail2skins]

I have a hard time believing this game will be a blowout. However, somehow I'm just having a hard time picturing us with more points than them when the clock hits zero.....the only question is it will it be like the Steelers game (which I didn't consider a blowout, even though the final margin was relatively large) or the home Cowboys game. And then Om will write a blog declaring us not ready for prime time.......until we go into Baltimore and beat the Ravens the following Sunday night :D

[STBonecrusher21]

doomsday you gonna be at the orphanage scaring the little kids again?

Its really funny when you do that.

[skinsince72]

I think Zorn has a golden opportunity to show some of that creativeness that he showed earlier in the year.

I too think it will be an easy game for the Skins to lose but they also have the ability to buckle down and eek one out.

Sure they have Jacobs that can pound the ball but, if you havn't noticed lately, CP is doing pretty good also. Throw in Sellers laying some lumber on fools and this will be a game won in the trenches. This could be the proverbial "slobberknocker". JC cannot hold the ball, so I think we will see CP grabbing at least 10 balls out of the air. Keep 'em off balance and air it out every once in awhile. THAT IS NOT THAT FARFETCHED!

If the Gmen make us one dimensional, it's over.

The game could depend on something as little as a forced fumble by Eli delivered by Horton. THAT IS NOT FARFETCHED!

[jp03]

I think Zorn has a golden opportunity to show some of that creativeness that he showed earlier in the year.

I too think it will be an easy game for the Skins to lose but they also have the ability to buckle down and eek one out.

Sure they have Jacobs that can pound the ball but, if you havn't noticed lately, CP is doing pretty good also. Throw in Sellers laying some lumber on fools and this will be a game won in the trenches. This could be the proverbial "slobberknocker". JC cannot hold the ball, so I think we will see CP grabbing at least 10 balls out of the air. Keep 'em off balance and air it out every once in awhile. THAT IS NOT THAT FARFETCHED!

If the Gmen make us one dimensional, it's over.

The game could depend on something as little as a forced fumble by Eli delivered by Horton. THAT IS NOT FARFETCHED!

If the Skins don't stretch the field its gonna be a long day for them.

[Gart Monk]

I don't think the Skins can win this week. I also didn't think that Daniel could beat his enemy at the end of Karate Kid 2. We will all know the truth at 4:20pm on Sunday.

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

I found more work from the OP:

http://www.geocities.com/crashakl/Mirror315.jpg

[skinfansince63]

Damn, must suck to be you feeling this way and thinking you are a Redskin Fan. I think it must come from your parents telling you there was no Santa when you were about three so they could save money on presents. Damn! by the way we will win and....

:gaintsuck:gaintsuck:gaintsuck:gaintsuck:gaintsuck :gaintsuck:gaintsuck:gaintsuck

[The Pascedina Kid]

What would Coach Lombardi say?

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall."

or maybe he would say

"Boy I'm getting a (Giants) itch. I'm getting ready. I don't get excited very often... maybe three or four times a day... But I'm sure as hell getting excited now. Boys, I hope you are too."

or maybe

"I suppose your concentration period lasts only about 15 seconds, and we're over that period now, are we?"

or

"Halas? haha, Halas. I can whip his @$$."

[texasthunder]

Well to the OP, initialy I was going to respond to your seemingly lame post. Something that would indicate a lack of fanhood, or knowledge of sports in general.

Then I realized you are pretty close to being correct. On paper we should get blown out. JC should be running for his life, and our DL will have Jacobs foot prints all over their jersey's.

BUT-there is a reason we watch football. There is a reason beyond all rationallity, that most all of us will either be glued to the tv, or joining the other ninety thousand plus who will invade Fedex field.
And that reason is hope !!! Hope for an upset. Hope for the true Redskins football team to show up, and hope that after the game is over, we will know that our team gave all they had.
And most of all, because, deep down, we believe in this team.




And, if none of this is true then we are just closet Cowboy fans.........:silly:

[skinpride1]

The difference is the skins O- line can't seem to pick up the pass rush this year. I hope we have a better game plan than the last few weeks or the giants are going to cream us.

[illone]

Why even watch the games, then?

If you are so certain of the Skins losing, then why not bet the house on the Giants, then you can REALLY have something to show for it?

But since we all know you won't put your hard earned money where your mouth is, why not put up your avatar instead?

I suggest you wear the assclown avatar if the skins win.

Deal?

[Park City Skins]

Well okay. But I'm still going to watch the game. Maybe the Skins get lucky. :)

[skinsince72]

Well okay. But I'm still going to watch the game. Maybe the Skins get lucky. :)


I just may watch also. I do things like that on Sunday.

[BuddyLeeGhostHunter]

I wonder if some of the Giants fans were saying the same thing before the Super Bowl.

The Patriots are the best team. They're gonna slam us into the turf no less than four times. Eli is only a manager, he sucks. Tom Brady is going to torch us.

[#21Taylor4Ever]

It's ****in pathetic when even the fans don't have faith!!!

Makes me sick to my stomach to be quite honest with you.

[mdboost]

look for the Skins to go deep early and often.
what are you basing this off of? and sadly i agree with the op

[LoudMouth12thMan]

Ah, another person that believes our coaches when they discuss strategies and packages the week of the game. Hello "it's Dumas", they won't run Nickel against a 2 WR 2 Back/2TE set. Do you believe in Santana Claus? :silly:

I don't care who's banged up, they ain't running Nickel in that situation. Plus, who in their right mind doesn't think that we have a shot against the Giants? I was once like you. I was a doubter. I thought like you in week 4 when Jansen became our starting RT. Well, I'm here to tell ya' son, that didn't work out for me so well.

So, you go make your Turkey sandwich and make sure you eat lots of cranberry sauce. That yeast infection in your vagina is going to need all the cranberry it can get. Redskin fan sayin' we ain't got a shot....shame, shame, shame, and more shame :D

Happy Turkey Day and I'll see you when we're 8-4 on Monday ;)

Take care of that vagina. On Monday, you'll have your set back and you'll be right back on the wagon.

HTTR

[Special K]

We will lose AGAIN, Campbell will get mercilessly slammed to the turf repeatedly( no less than 4 times) Portis will get crunched, Zorn will call multiple quick slants ( which are starting to irk me like Gibbs Jumbo package at midfield) the defense will hold the Ginas to field goals in the first half, but will tire in the second half and will start to give up touchdowns, while the Skins will go three and out for most of the first half, but will manage to move the ball in the second half, only to kick field goals, or to turn the ball over inside the 20. Honestly, the only good thing that I hope comes out of this is that Landry does'nt get baptized again.

It's laughable the way people are trying to hype up this game like its some marquee heavyweight rematch. If we lose by less than a touchdown, I'll consider it a win. People who think we can beat this team using the nickel package as our base D against Jacobs and Co. wre on the egg nog a little early. And for anyone who thinks I'm just being a doomsayer, let me give you some advice. Accept the fact that we are going to lose big while you still can, it will make the pain a lot more manageable when it finally happens
Wow, how much do you charge for your motivational speeches? I'm going to talk with the other coach to see if we can get you to come out and inspire our softball team before the playoffs...

[Papabear]

Ummm?

The Giants won the Superbowl last year and we still beat them at their home so WTF mates?

A win for the Skins is ABSOLUTELY possible.

[mo808]

"As a man believes in his heart, so is he"

I don't care if it is the Giants, even David slew Goliath with five smooth stones (David took out Goliath with the first stone, he brought the other four because Goliath had four brothers). My point is every game isn't won or lost for that matter until it's played. This Redskin team must believe first and foremost that the game is win able and then GO DO IT!

[RalphZero]

The thing I am amazed about is the pointspread.
The Giants are favored by only 3.5 points. It needs to be about 7 or 7.5.
The Over/Under is 41.5.

I'll take the usual.

Gimme the team who is playing the Redskins and the Under.

Final Score
Giants 23
Redskins 13

[iMeast]

Geez I hope the team isn't as negative as this guy. :gaintsuck

HTTR

[RonBurgundy&Gold]

"Any given Sunday...." This game will be much closer than most think, look for the Skins to go deep early and often.

Well lets hope that you have super powers that allow you to see the future.

Because nothing about this season says we'll go deep early or often.

[Skins6381]

I am making the ultimate bet on the Skins this weekend. My 6yr old son will be attending his first game in Landover and this experience could shape his outlook for years to come, I have a feeling he will enjoy watching the Skins beat a very good NY team. If we lose hopefully countless trips to the snackbar will keep the bitter taste out his mouth. HTTR.:gaintsuck

[jnhay]

Thank you so much for this thread. These things usually work out well for the Redskins.

[Shadskins1980]

This is a pointless thread. One thing I cant stand on this board is cowardly and fairweather fans.. This is about even given sunday ! I dont care what the giants record is. I am A TRUE fan and I dont care what the odds are I love the Redskins period.

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

The thing I am amazed about is the pointspread.
The Giants are favored by only 3.5 points. It needs to be about 7 or 7.5.
The Over/Under is 41.5.

I'll take the usual.

Gimme the team who is playing the Redskins and the Under.

Final Score
Giants 23
Redskins 13And what's your record on the season? Oh, that's right... ****ty. :rolleyes: You're pathetic.

[F-16 CHIEF]

On the day we put #21 in the rafters, I don't care who comes in here, WE WILL WIN!!!


Now wait a second. Like last year after he died, there was no way we'd loose to the lowly Bills. Well, we all know what happened.

And this year, there's no way we'd loose to the Rams and no way that when we were honoring Art and Darrell that we'd loose to the cowboys.

If there's one thing this years team has proven, it's that other than a miserable offense, you can't predict what they will do.

[Boss_Hogg]

Are the Giants invincible? No
Are the Giants beatable? Yes
Will the Redskins win, not holding my breath.

[GaryGreenMonk]

actually it would probably fit much better into classic Redskins ways to win the Giants and Ravens game... then drop both the Bengals and 49ers game.. essentially negating those hard fought tough wins.

[BigRay]

A redskin fan that has the name Doomsday ? something isn't right here .

[ronnix]

unfortunately, the skins this year are a second tier team. we beat the lower tier teams barely, like detroit, seattle, cleveland, and we did a great job against the eagles, and cowboys. i dont see how we can beat a solid giants team, with the poor scoring offense, offensive line that is good only in the rushing game. and most of all if fletcher cannot play we are doomed. even so i will be rooting for them and i wont cry if they get beat.

[Pimpey42000]

I could care less about what I really know will happen. All I want to do is see these Skins get on defense and bash Eli all day! All I want is physical play and stopping that Giant run offense. All I want is Portis and Campbell to torch the Giants all day. I hate to sound selfish but thats what i really want and could careless about what I really know is going to happen.

[redskins55]

5-0 or we don't go!

[dcnativenerd]

A redskin fan that has the name Doomsday ? something isn't right here .
I was hoping I wasn't the only one that thought that.

[TrumanB]

c'mon dude. its a division game, at home, and the score is 0-0.
And that's the problem. I'd feel much better if this game was away. We have a home field disadvantage, sad to say.

[vainglory]

And that's the problem. I'd feel much better if this game was away. We have a home field disadvantage, sad to say.


i totally agree...it's as if the skins only play well when their backs are against the wall and the whole world or stadium is against them.

[SkinisRed]

I agree with the OP on this one. 100%

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

I agree with the OP on this one. 100%You should quit watching any Redskins vs. NFC East opponent games immediately. They are all going to be losses anyway. :doh: :rolleyes:

[SkinisRed]

just trying to stay grounding. Giants are the best team I've seen in a long while (all things taken into account here)

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

just trying to stay grounding. Giants are the best team I've seen in a long while (all things taken into account here)I remember hearing the same things about the Patriots last year...

[SpringfieldSkins]

just trying to stay grounding. Giants are the best team I've seen in a long while (all things taken into account here)


No way in hell are they the best team in a long while.

[SkinisRed]

No way in hell are they the best team in a long while.

why don't you name a better one?

oh and the patriots should have won it last year, and they were the best team in a while, except they didn't have the D the giants do now.

[SpringfieldSkins]

why don't you name a better one?

oh and the patriots should have won it last year, and they were the best team in a while, except they didn't have the D the giants do now.


You want D? The 2001 Baltimore Ravens.

You want O? Then it would be the 2007 New England Patriots, or perhaps the 2000 St. Louis Rams.


All 3 of which I would say are better than the Giants and are certainly what I would consider "recent" memory.

[SkinisRed]

You want D? The 2001 Baltimore Ravens.

You want O? Then it would be the 2007 New England Patriots, or perhaps the 2000 St. Louis Rams.


All 3 of which I would say are better than the Giants and are certainly what I would consider "recent" memory.


good job. you gave me 3 teams, of which you have only said they are good at either D or O. I am talking about a rounding complete team. Which was the point i was trying to make about the giants being complete

[909997]

o' rly?.........

[corrupt3d]

good job. you gave me 3 teams, of which you have only said they are good at either D or O. I am talking about a rounding complete team. Which was the point i was trying to make about the giants being complete



So how long have you rooted for the Giants?

[SpringfieldSkins]

good job. you gave me 3 teams, of which you have only said they are good at either D or O. I am talking about a rounding complete team. Which was the point i was trying to make about the giants being complete


Ugh. Complete team? I'm just not going to be right I guess. However the Patriots in 06 or 05 were a "complete" team.


The 91 Redskins were most certainly a "complete" team, but that probably isn't recent enough for you. Ya know before free agency and salary caps and all.

[TheLongshot]

And that's the problem. I'd feel much better if this game was away. We have a home field disadvantage, sad to say.

Actually, in recent years we have done much better against the Giants at home than on the road. Last year was the exception to the rule.

[illone]

Actually, in recent years we have done much better against the Giants at home than on the road. Last year was the exception to the rule.


No kidding. 04 and 05 was a split with the Skins winning at home both years.

06 was the Tiki nightmare to close out the 06 season getting swept:doh:.

I'm far less nervous about this game than I was about last year's game in NY, that's for sure.

[HoyaSkins28]

i hate to admit it but you might just be right. the giants are just that good. i hate saying that... so much

[Redd]

IF we beat the Giants, I say we're a lock for the playoffs. We could make a run all the way to the NFC Championship................IF we beat the Giants. There's no other team in the NFC that should give us trouble.......IF we beat the Giants.:gaintsuck

[Thiebear]

We play our A: game we win.
We play that crap last 3 weeks we lose.

We need the catches deep, just one or two even.
We need points off a turnover, not last weeks.

The difference between 17 and 35 is one catch and a defensive/special teams score...

[Walking Deadman]

why don't you name a better one?



Titans.

[Operations]

I think Sheli is due for one of his awful games. And we're desperate. We need this much more than the Vagiants. I really think there's a 50-50 chance we take this game.

[muslechic47]

If we don't win, I don't see us making the playoffs. Enuff said!

[BigRay]

I was hoping I wasn't the only one that thought that.


His post has troll written all over it. I tell ya these trolls need to get a life.

[dcnativenerd]

Now, granted, BigRay...this game is going to be VERY tough and the Giants aren't slouches by any means. They're the best team in the NFC and the defending champions. This is, though, an NFC East division game and ANYTHING can happen.

[BigRay]

Now, granted, BigRay...this game is going to be VERY tough and the Giants aren't slouches by any means. They're the best team in the NFC and the defending champions. This is, though, an NFC East division game and ANYTHING can cam.


No question it will be a very tough game for the Skins. They will need to bring their A game to win this one. It's a game I feel they need more than the Giants. If they can come out and play with some emotion because it's going to be a real emotional day.

Because of the ceremony for Sean Taylor so if they can bring some of that energy and playing at home they have a shot to win this game.

[Tastes Like Chicken]

this game will reveal a lot about this team. We'll have to play flawlessly and LB play will be paramount. Our O-line will have to execute perfectly, otherwise it will be a very long day. I'm confident that we can win this game, and hopefully those of us in attendance will be loud until the clock reads 0:00.

[dcnativenerd]

As we've said time after time, it's going to come down to a battle in the trenches. Whoever can block and tackle the best will win this game. Style isn't what anyone's about in this game. Never has been, never will be.

[Monte51Coleman]

I'm worried about the two things that have hurt this team most of the season:

The inability to pressure the opposing qb and the inability to protect their own.

If they aren't able to improve in those two areas this game will be a carbon copy of the Pittsburgh game.

[BillyKilmer]

We will lose AGAIN, Campbell will get mercilessly slammed to the turf repeatedly( no less than 4 times) Portis will get crunched, Zorn will call multiple quick slants ( which are starting to irk me like Gibbs Jumbo package at midfield) the defense will hold the Ginas to field goals in the first half, but will tire in the second half and will start to give up touchdowns, while the Skins will go three and out for most of the first half, but will manage to move the ball in the second half, only to kick field goals, or to turn the ball over inside the 20. Honestly, the only good thing that I hope comes out of this is that Landry does'nt get baptized again.

It's laughable the way people are trying to hype up this game like its some marquee heavyweight rematch. If we lose by less than a touchdown, I'll consider it a win. People who think we can beat this team using the nickel package as our base D against Jacobs and Co. wre on the egg nog a little early. And for anyone who thinks I'm just being a doomsayer, let me give you some advice. Accept the fact that we are going to lose big while you still can, it will make the pain a lot more manageable when it finally happens

With this attitude your going to stay a virgin forever..

[kvarlo12000]

I think Sheli is due for one of his awful games. And we're desperate. We need this much more than the Vagiants. I really think there's a 50-50 chance we take this game.

isn't there always a 50-50 chance.

[Redskins4ever]

This 2008 NYG team is extremely good. But they can be beat. Cleveland, one of the worst teams in the NFL, beat the G-Men. The Redskins can win this game if they execute on offense, and pressure Eli Manning and contain the run on defense. Plus the Redskins and Giants have split victories three out of the last four seasons.

[Dan T.]

My sincere wish is that starting Monday, because of events Sunday, this thread becomes the most bumped thread of the season. ;)

[talk show host]

My sincere wish is that starting Monday, because of events Sunday, this thread becomes the most bumped thread of the season. ;)

so youre hoping its bumped every week in advance of the expected loss we anticipate every weekend except against the bengals because we really arent that good of a team right now?

[Die Hard]

I fully expect us to get crushed.

However, I will still watch the game because I am often wrong.

Also, I'm not going to bemoan losing until we actually, you know, lose.

[DCranon21]

The team mights of well not suit up right OP :rolleyes:

Hope your ready for a ton of crow to eat come Monday morning.

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

so youre hoping its bumped every week in advance of the expected loss we anticipate every weekend except against the bengals because we really arent that good of a team right now?No, because of the hopefully massive fail of the OP and other gloom and doom crowd.

[Dan T.]

so youre hoping its bumped every week in advance of the expected loss we anticipate every weekend except against the bengals because we really arent that good of a team right now?

No, I'm hoping it is bumped so that the OP can be mocked repeatedly for his cowardly post after the Redskins shock the Giants - and him - with a victory on Sunday.

[Papabear]

Hip, Hip...

[Dan T.]

Hip, Hip...

...Displacement. For the OP.

[Wyvern]

One cannot to ignore the Giants have a good team this year. This game is extremely strong challenge to the Redskins. But, in spite of records, this is a very competitive NFL matchup and the Skins definitely could win this game.

Here are 10 reasons to have confidence in Washington.

It's a home game;
The axiom, "On any given Sunday" is always applicable;
The Skins have a talented team too;
Zorn is a smart coach and this is his second look at how his team stacks up against the Giants;
The offense has had a lot more time to settle in since the last time these teams met;
Our secondary has improved a lot since the last meeting;
Jacobs and Burress are hurting;
Eli Manning is not Peyton Manning, and could easily have an off-day;
Even 10-1 teams can stumble;
Tradtionally, the NFC-East rivalry games tend to be close-fought and equalize -- and NFC-East rivals don't often sweep.
I don't like to get overly optimistic on our chances for victory in teams the Skins were favored to beat. Nor shall I get pessimistic about our chances in teams where we are not the favorite.

GO SKINS.... Beat the Giants!!

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

hip, hip...Hooray! :D

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

...Displacement. For the OP.:rotflmao: :applause:

[Stew]

Every team that the Giants have played have given everything they had, thrown everything including the kitchen sink at those fools, and it has begun to wear them down. We will take advantage of our week 10 bye. No Plax, and a Jacobs that isnt 100% will be their downfall. We have upgraded at Corner since last we spoke, and them not having Plax makes the match up that much sweeter in my eyes. We are coming off a win and playing at home.

[JoeSkins]

I am as confident in a New York win this week as I was in a Dallas loss two weeks ago....so...I guess I'm trying to say you just never know.

[36HAMMER]

i will be there either jumping up and down or throwing things at the wall.they can win and it would be sweet.fact is with them having beaten us to start this run wouldn't it only be right for us to do the same to them. here's to a new beginning. leave it all on the field guys. we are with ya.go skinzzzzzzzzz

[Ira]

I'm a Giants fan and I think the Giants will win this. That being said, the Redskins have a good team and, while it will be an upset to see them beat the Giants, it wouldn't be a huge upset. We're not talking about the Detroit Lions here. You guys have a good team and you're playing at home. Yogi Berra said 'it ain't over til it's over' and this game hasn't even started yet. I'm looking forward to a good game.

[SKINchiefer]

I am as confident in a New York win this week as I was in a Dallas loss two weeks ago....so...I guess I'm trying to say you just never know.


I know what you mean. That confidence is streamin' this way also. Lets just hope were not foolin' ourselves.

[Spitfire71]

I think we have a slight advantage. They're down their #1 receiver, and their top running back is banged up. Because of Sean Taylor's induction into the Ring of Honor and this being right at the first anniversary of his death, the Redskins are going to come out with a lot of emotion. The Giants, who already have a playoff spot locked and have guys hurt, are probably going to come out a little bit injury conscious. Zorn needs to go for the throat in the first quarter, while everyone's energy is high. If they do that, I don't really see a reason why we can't win this game. Not saying it's going to be easy, especially with the weather, but it is doable.

[Mr. Sinister]

Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so, now lets watch everyone who insulted me start the irrational fire/release threads. We will be good in time folks, just not right now. Accept it.

[fire3fighter4]

hoping for 8-8/9-7

[Thirtyfive2seven]

10-6

This team is really pissing me off. They keep playing 8-8 football and don't appear to be capable of getting over that hump

That said, I will keep hope until the end as usual.

[Shilsu]

Knowing this game was for Sean Taylor... And watching Clinton Portis in agony on the sideline... I am pissed.

[Toe Jam]

I feel like I've been slapped.

[herb mul-key]

really mad, really mad that the game plan and our players sucked so bad.

[PortisBetts]

Campbell sucks. Doesnt take risks and when he does he throws it short by 5 yards (randle el) and gets picked. Looks utterly confused at all points in the game. Sit him bring in collins or brennan i dont care just sit him

Edit: btw our defense played great they were just on the field the ENTIRE game.

[zoony]

Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so, now lets watch everyone who insulted me start the irrational fire/release threads. We will be good in time folks, just not right now. Accept it.


We are on the 10 year plan. This roster is finished. We are old at almost every key position. Our hope for franchise QB has resulted in a steaming hot cup of epic fail.

It will get much worse before it gets better.

[killerbee99]

We are on the 10 year plan. This roster is finished. We are old at almost every key position. Our hope for franchise QB has resulted in a steaming hot cup of epic fail.

It will get much worse before it gets better.


Wow, hurts but u are right...doomsday, good call.....at least you are for real...i read all the clowns jump on u, like you dont support the team. Oh well....HARRELL FOR 2009 draft baby.

[Monkfan63]

We are on the 10 year plan. This roster is finished. We are old at almost every key position. Our hope for franchise QB has resulted in a steaming hot cup of epic fail.

It will get much worse before it gets better.

Agreed. And with Vinny calling personnel shots, a 10 year plan may be generous.

[Rdskns2000]

Of course we all knew today happened exactly the way it did.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

congrats!!!!

[Hunter_R]

We are on the 10 year plan. This roster is finished. We are old at almost every key position. Our hope for franchise QB has resulted in a steaming hot cup of epic fail.

It will get much worse before it gets better.
He should change his title to prophet.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

We are on the 10 year plan. This roster is finished. We are old at almost every key position. Our hope for franchise QB has resulted in a steaming hot cup of epic fail.

It will get much worse before it gets better.

I think it's the offensive line. Any QB is going to look terrible behind that.

[MarkMissoula]

Heres a good one, we have the same number of wins as the dolphins who went 1-15 last year.

[BayouBrave86]

Reading those first few lines of the op....spooky. Absolutely dead on. I'm hoping the Skins can come out against the Ravens and b'slap and win. Ugh.

[PortisFan123]

Man you must be psychic or perhaps not so much a homer that you see the truth. I predicted a loss too against the Giants but never expected this debacle.

Any thoughts on the rest of the season you care to share.???.lol!!!

[ke27on]

well turns out this happened exactly as said. we really need better line play. Not to be ridiculously pessimistic but does anyone wonder what's the point of us making the playoffs? The way we looked today, we don't look capable of beating the giants, we looked horrible against the steelers. We just havent been looking very good.

[playoffsplz]

Man you must be psychic or perhaps not so much a homer that you see the truth. I predicted a loss too against the Giants but never expected this debacle.

Any thoughts on the rest of the season you care to share.???.lol!!!

Honestly I think if you watch the games closely you could see this coming. Obviously none of us want to believe it. Every Sunday is different...but for our team it becomes very predictable. When I saw that 7 put up so early in the game I started to cringe a bit. That's all it takes really. We rely on the run and ball control, our passing game is unreliable. We only look good in the passing game when the other team doesn't execute or somebody makes a great play (usually Moss). We're not good at though.

The Giants know that and they had a great game plan. They attacked early and often and took our "old school" game plan away. Then all it takes is good execution by the Defense and this is what you get. A blowout win and a another lackluster day of offense for the Skins.

Pray for change folks. We need it desperately.

[BeachBlitz]

I felt the same way. I'm often told I don't have faith in my team but I'm a realist and right now, we flat out stink. We at best have a chance to go 9-7 but am leaning more towards 8-8. The loss I am expecting at Baltimore next week will seal it for us as far as I'm concerned to eliminate us totally frm the playoff hunt. Portis has done more than anyone could have asked for for our team but he can't carry the team any longer and I don't see us scoring more than 13 points. At the very least I was able to drive my car with my Redskins flags and logos without being totally laughed at for half a sason but its back to business as usual.

[COOLeyCatchTds]

I agree with Brotherz, well said.

I think you guys are being a little harsh to the OP. I'll be in front of my tv for every last second of the game sunday because I NEVER miss a game, EVER. But Im more of a realist than most. Defensively, I love how we match up against anyone in the league. We may not dominate defensively like past SB defenses who carried an average offense, but we're close to it. Our problem is the same as its been for years now, our offense can't put points on the board. And until they do, I wont be confident going into ANY game, let alone the 10-1 SB Champs and their insane front four. This team has trouble beating below average teams so its amazing to me that we're almost always in the game until the bitter end against really good teams. Thats why I cannot and will not say we WILL lose this game...., but I wont flame someone for predicting what the team has shown us for over a month. Whether we've won or lost, the OP described our play to a T.

Heres to hoping for a W! :cheers:

:cheers: for having the balls to start this thread. There are not enough fans on here who have a realistic outlook on our team. If your observations are not positive, youre not a fan, thats BS.

Blind homerism pisses me off more than anything because it gets in the way of real, good discussion.

[COOLeyCatchTds]

Heapings and heapings of crow to go around, yet all I hear are crickets. Interesting.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

Heres a good one, we have the same number of wins as the dolphins who went 1-15 last year.

As do the Patriots who went 18-1 last year :nutkick: