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December-12th-2008, 09:30 AM
Green Berets earn Silver Stars for Afghan battle (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28190169/)

10 Special Forces soldiers honored for seven-hour firefight with insurgents

By Ann Scott Tyson
Dec. 12, 2008

WASHINGTON - After jumping out of helicopters at daybreak onto jagged, ice-covered rocks and into water at an altitude of 10,000 feet, the 12-man Special Forces team scrambled up the steep mountainside toward its target — an insurgent stronghold in northeast Afghanistan.

"Our plan," Capt. Kyle M. Walton recalled in an interview, "was to fight downhill."

But as the soldiers maneuvered toward a cluster of thick-walled mud buildings constructed layer upon layer about 1,000 feet farther up the mountain, insurgents quickly manned fighting positions, readying a barrage of fire for the exposed Green Berets.

A harrowing, nearly seven-hour battle unfolded on that mountainside in Afghanistan's Nuristan province on April 6, as Walton, his team and a few dozen Afghan commandos they had trained took fire from all directions. Outnumbered, the Green Berets fought on even after half of them were wounded — four critically — and managed to subdue an estimated 150 to 200 insurgents, according to interviews with several team members and official citations.

Today, Walton and nine of his teammates from Operational Detachment Alpha 3336 of the 3rd Special Forces Group will receive the Silver Star for their heroism in that battle — the highest number of such awards given to the elite troops for a single engagement since the Vietnam War.

That chilly morning, Walton's mind was on his team's mission: to capture or kill several members of the Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG) militant group in their stronghold, a village perched in Nuristan's Shok Valley that was accessible only by pack mule and so remote that Walton said he believed that no U.S. troops, or Soviet ones before them, had ever been there.

Element of surprise
But as the soldiers, each carrying 60 to 80 pounds of gear, scaled the mountain, they could already spot insurgents running to and fro, they said. As the soldiers drew closer, they saw that many of the mud buildings had holes in the foot-thick walls for snipers. The U.S. troops had maintained an element of surprise until their helicopters turned into the valley, but by now the insurgent leaders entrenched above knew they were the targets, and had alerted their fighters to rally.

Staff Sgt. Luis Morales of Fredericksburg was the first to see an armed insurgent and opened fire, killing him. But at that moment, the insurgents began blasting away at the American and Afghan troops with machine guns, sniper rifles and rocket-propelled grenades — shooting down on each of the U.S. positions from virtually all sides.

"All elements were pinned down from extremely heavy fire from the get-go," Walton said. "It was a coordinated attack." The insurgent Afghan fighters knew there was only one route up the valley and "were able to wait until we were in the most vulnerable position to initiate the ambush," said Staff Sgt. Seth E. Howard, the team weapons sergeant.

Almost immediately, exposed U.S. and Afghan troops were hit. An Afghan interpreter was killed, and Staff Sgt. Dillon Behr was shot in the hip.

"We were pretty much in the open, there were no trees to hide behind," said Morales, who with Walton pulled Behr back to their position. Morales cut open Behr's fatigues and applied pressure to his bleeding hip, even though Morales himself had been shot in the right thigh. A minute later, Morales was hit again, in the ankle, leaving him struggling to treat himself and his comrade, he said. Absent any cover, Walton moved the body of the dead Afghan interpreter to shield the wounded.

Rocket launcher
Farther down the hill in the streambed, Master Sgt. Scott Ford, the team sergeant, was firing an M203 grenade launcher at the fighting positions, he recalled. An Afghan commando fired rocket-propelled grenades at the windows from which they were taking fire, while Howard shot rounds from a rocket launcher and recoilless rifle.

Ford, of Athens, Ohio, then moved up the mountain amid withering fire to aid Walton at his command position. The ferocity of the attack surprised him, as rounds ricocheted nearby every time he stuck his head out from behind a rock. "Typically they run out of ammo or start to manage their ammo, but . . . they held a sustained rate of fire for about six hours," he said.

As Ford and Staff Sgt. John Wayne Walding returned fire, Walding was hit below his right knee. Ford turned and saw that the bullet "basically amputated his right leg right there on the battlefield."

Walding, of Groesbeck, Tex., recalled: "I literally grabbed my boot and put it in my crotch, then got the boot laces and tied it to my thigh, so it would not flop around. There was about two inches of meat holding my leg on." He put on a tourniquet, watching the blood flow out the stump to see when it was tight enough.

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BigMike619
December-12th-2008, 09:32 AM
HELL YA!!

more men like these deserve to be honored and rewarded!!

TheMalcolmConnection
December-12th-2008, 09:32 AM
That's so beast. Rambo-style.

#98QBKiller
December-12th-2008, 09:39 AM
Hell yeah. Green Berets FTW. A good friend of mine was a Ranger and man, they go through some serious **** during training.

Meskeet21
December-12th-2008, 09:51 AM
his name is john wayne after all

squatch66
December-12th-2008, 10:07 AM
god damn those are real men.

Chump Bailey
December-12th-2008, 10:50 AM
Awesome - Robert's Ridge is another great tale of heroism in Afghanistan though it will anger you in certain parts.

jpillian
December-12th-2008, 11:10 AM
Walding, of Groesbeck, Tex., recalled: "I literally grabbed my boot and put it in my crotch, then got the boot laces and tied it to my thigh, so it would not flop around. There was about two inches of meat holding my leg on." He put on a tourniquet, watching the blood flow out the stump to see when it was tight enough.

Are you kidding me?????

Metskins
December-12th-2008, 11:34 AM
Do yourself a favor. There's a similar article on these guys on washingtonpost.com, don't read the comments because some of them will just piss you off.

Mad Mike
December-12th-2008, 11:40 AM
Holy crap. Note to self. Do not mess with Green Berets. :notworthy

twa
December-12th-2008, 12:10 PM
god damn those are real men.

Yep,some our finest.

But the intelligence analyst that sent them into that bs ought to be flogged.

zoony
December-12th-2008, 12:14 PM
But the intelligence analyst that sent them into that bs ought to be flogged.


My thought too. Assault a fortified position, on foot, uphill, with no cover.


Seriously, there should be an investigation into that

jpillian
December-12th-2008, 12:43 PM
My thought too. Assault a fortified position, on foot, uphill, with no cover.


Seriously, there should be an investigation into that

It seems to me that I've heard similar scenarios before in Afghanistan for other award citations: 1)A-team gets sent into a remote mountain stronghold, 2)bad guys see them coming and have them outnumbered 200-12, 3)A-team retreats after a daylong firefight, and 4)the AF comes and in bombs the crap out of the bad guys.

Why not just skip steps 1-3?

zoony
December-12th-2008, 12:45 PM
It seems to me that I've heard similar scenarios before in Afghanistan for other award citations: 1)A-team gets sent into a remote mountain stronghold, 2)bad guys see them coming and have them outnumbered 200-12, 3)A-team retreats after a daylong firefight, and 4)the AF comes and in bombs the crap out of the bad guys.

Why not just skip steps 1-3?



No kidding. I lost a lifelong friend to almost that exact same scenario.

jpillian
December-12th-2008, 12:58 PM
No kidding. I lost a lifelong friend to almost that exact same scenario.

I'm sorry to hear that, z. Definitely puts a different perspective on it when you start losing friends in combat.

skinsfan_1215
December-12th-2008, 01:13 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/12/12/starr.afghan.firefight.cnn


A CNN video about the same story.

One guy carried his own leg down the side of a mountain. I can't imagine actually being about to function at all while holding my leg in my hand.

VASkins540
December-12th-2008, 01:16 PM
Then Walding tried to inject himself with morphine but accidentally used the wrong tip of the syringe and put the needle in this thumb, he later recalled. "My thumb felt great," he said wryly, noting that throughout the incident he never lost consciousness. "My name is John Wayne," he said.
:rotflmao:

Pretty amazing story.

USS Redskins
December-12th-2008, 02:24 PM
It seems to me that I've heard similar scenarios before in Afghanistan for other award citations: 1)A-team gets sent into a remote mountain stronghold, 2)bad guys see them coming and have them outnumbered 200-12, 3)A-team retreats after a daylong firefight, and 4)the AF comes and in bombs the crap out of the bad guys.

Why not just skip steps 1-3?

My thoughts exactly.

Well deserved, though. Those are some ballsy m-f'ers.... thank god for them.

This would be a cool movie.

Mad Mike
December-12th-2008, 02:45 PM
A little off topic but I still remember the video during the invasion of Iraq of a bunch of our guys caught in some heavy fire under an overpass. Two guys were carrying a third who was wounded on a simple stretcher as the wounded guy was firing away at the Iraqis. I still remember the look on his face, like he was pissed and wanted some payback. It looked like a scene from a movie.

Here's to all our service members past, present, and future. :cheers:

Redskins Diehard
December-12th-2008, 04:25 PM
It seems to me that I've heard similar scenarios before in Afghanistan for other award citations: 1)A-team gets sent into a remote mountain stronghold, 2)bad guys see them coming and have them outnumbered 200-12, 3)A-team retreats after a daylong firefight, and 4)the AF comes and in bombs the crap out of the bad guys.

Why not just skip steps 1-3?

Without 1 and 2 there is no number 3. But also no number 4.

MikeInJc aka M.I.A.
December-12th-2008, 05:13 PM
These guys are part of the 3rd SFG which is right across the street from where I served at Fort Bragg, 7th SFG, and trust me when I say SF is by far the baddest MFer's you will ever meet, but they are also some of the kindest coolest people. They just know how to turn it on and off, unlike the 82nd boys, :OLS

P.S: Drinking with those SF guys is a ****ing BLAST!!!!

MonkFan8
December-12th-2008, 05:25 PM
Damn, that sounds like something you'd do in a video game, not real life (no disrespect intended).

Totally badass.

Redskins Diehard
December-12th-2008, 05:29 PM
These guys are part of the 3rd SFG which is right across the street from where I served at Fort Bragg, 7th SFG, and trust me when I say SF is by far the baddest MFer's you will ever meet, but they are also some of the kindest coolest people. They just know how to turn it on and off, unlike the 82nd boys, :OLS

P.S: Drinking with those SF guys is a ****ing BLAST!!!!

Thats right. The 82d "boys" never turn it off...and they shouldn't, not their mission. Different units, different missions(ask an ODA to seize an airfield and see how it works out). If you think that 3rd or 7th group is by far the "baddest mf'ers you'll ever meet" you must not have met some of the other guys on Bragg.

jpillian
December-12th-2008, 08:07 PM
Thats right. The 82d "boys" never turn it off...and they shouldn't, not their mission. Different units, different missions(ask an ODA to seize an airfield and see how it works out). If you think that 3rd or 7th group is by far the "baddest mf'ers you'll ever meet" you must not have met some of the other guys on Bragg.

Worked with some TF 121 fellas while I was in Tikrit. There to hunt high-value targets (like Saddam and his sons). Had Little Birds lined up down by the Tigris and all sorts of screwed-up, high-speed looking vehicles. Very cool, non-nonsense mofos.

No idea if the guys I worked with were Delta, or whatever other black-secret-squirrel outfit we're not supposed to know about, but I'm glad they're on our side.

Redskins Diehard
December-12th-2008, 10:28 PM
Worked with some TF 121 fellas while I was in Tikrit. There to hunt high-value targets (like Saddam and his sons). Had Little Birds lined up down by the Tigris and all sorts of screwed-up, high-speed looking vehicles. Very cool, non-nonsense mofos.

No idea if the guys I worked with were Delta, or whatever other black-secret-squirrel outfit we're not supposed to know about, but I'm glad they're on our side.

Funny how often they change the TF # associated with them. In Afghan they were pretty bored because their only mission was HVTs, and HVTs weren't around.

I was one of the 82d boys that MIA mentioned earlier. A lot of guys come out from "behind the fence" for a variety of reasons, serve in the Deuce for a few years and then go back. Very professional, not cowboys in the slightest. And yes, I am glad I was never on their list of guys to kill, when they shoot, they don't miss

Jumbo
December-12th-2008, 11:14 PM
Yep,some our finest.

But the intelligence analyst that sent them into that bs ought to be flogged.


You called it on both comments. Amazing men. :applause:

Tarpon75
December-13th-2008, 05:28 AM
Amazing story.Wow,we owe these soldiers and their brethern so much.Makes me proud to be an American.These are the real heroes!