A 16 game starter

[Burgold]

For the first time in forever, we had a quarterback last all 16 games. That's pretty cool. Most of the time, that is a very good thing. That Campbell did it with all the knocks he took (some of which he earned, some were great defensive efforts, and others still lousy blocking) and the a ground game that ground to a halt and a passing offense that seemed incapable of generating big plays to reduce pressure... that's kind of impressive.

No matter if you are a basher, objective critic, or lover one can admit that Campbell took his lumps this year and had a full seaon to learn on. Each high and low, each opportunity missed, stolen or taken... he was part of. When the game was crucial, he was there. When the game was a gimmee (and then suddenly wasn't) he was there.

Starting all sixteen games and feeling the ebbs and flows of an entire season and having your coaches have sixteen games worth of footage has got to be invaluable.

It's pretty rare to have a 16 game starter anymore. It takes a combination of luck, will, and pain tolerance.

[andyburd]

It is pretty amazing considering the way he was beaten and dragged around.
Now here comes the JC bashers with some negativity, 3,2,1

[Burgold]

It also gives us the opportunity to remove (for the most part) the experience question. He has now lived it and done it for a full season. Next year, no excuses.

Well... especially, next year since it is a contract year.

[rebornempowered]

Did he take every snap? I can't remember. That is even a greater rarity if he did, especially with some of the shots he took.

[FFEMT284]

I am pretty sure he took all snaps

[Skin'Em84]

That is amazing. When was the last time we had that???

[BillyKilmer]

The guy is tough.
He was a punching bag for the last two thirds of the season.
Now he will be the same all off season.
He is classy enough to handle it, no matter how little class some posters show.

I have no idea if he will be the QB Redskin fans want but he sure dosn't deserve the hate dumped on him by some.

[fansince62]

It also gives us the opportunity to remove (for the most part) the experience question. He has now lived it and done it for a full season. Next year, no excuses.

Well... especially, next year since it is a contract year.

agree.

[SwampEm]

Did he take every snap? I can't remember. That is even a greater rarity if he did, especially with some of the shots he took.


He took every snap that was not a kicking or punting situation. The last non QB to take a snap for the Redskins in a non kicking or punting formation was Brian Mitchell back in 1882. You would think that they would have a direct snap play for Randle El or Portis but I guess they don't.

[jwpanic]

toughness has never been the issue with jason.

[ST is my boy]

I think its pretty safe to say if Collins was our QB all year and took those shots he wouldnt have lasted 4 games.

[Chump Bailey]

Unfortunately, I do not see JC succeeding with Zorn and his offense. I hope I'm wrong, but I just see nothing in Zorn that would lead me to believe he can make this a viable offense next season.

[Skinz4Life12]

another very impressive stat to go along with that very impressive no inteception streak

[Yusuf06]

The guy is tough.
He was a punching bag for the last two thirds of the season.
Now he will be the same all off season.
He is classy enough to handle it, no matter how little class some posters show.

I have no idea if he will be the QB Redskin fans want but he sure dosn't deserve the hate dumped on him by some.
:applause: I felt the same way about Ramsey. The thing I really like about both of them is that they both have the work ethic to get it done. I have every confidence that JC will spend a lot of time with Zorn working on his footwork, technique, reads, timing and overall knowledge of the offense this offseason.

Ultimately he may not turn out to be a franchise QB. However, if that turns out to be the case it won't be because he didn't put in the effort or because he was at the club until 2 AM *cough* Rod Gardner *cough*. At that point it really won't be hard to part ways without worrying too much that we might be letting a guy go who could blow up later.

After a full offseason of coaching from Zorn I fully expect him to take a huge step forward next season.

[DCranon21]

:applause: I felt the same way about Ramsey. The thing I really like about both of them is that they both have the work ethic to get it done. I have every confidence that JC will spend a lot of time with Zorn working on his footwork, technique, reads, timing and overall knowledge of the offense this offseason.

Ultimately he may not turn out to be a franchise QB. However, if that turns out to be the case it won't be because he didn't put in the effort or because he was at the club until 2 AM *cough* Rod Gardner *cough*. At that point it really won't be hard to part ways without worrying too much that we might be letting a guy go who could blow up later.

After a full offseason of coaching from Zorn I fully expect him to take a huge step forward next season.

Oh he will step up :)

[Cooley4President]

I hadn't thought about that, but it is impressive. Whether or not he ends up as our franchise QB, having him play all year was a big step for this organization. It will be beneficial either because the experience will help him develop or it'll give us a good starting place for an honest assessment of his progress.

[brandymac27]

I'll give credit where credit is due. JC is one tough cookie, especially considering some of the hits he took. I may not be on the JC bandwagon anymore, but I do hope he succeeds, if for no other reason than helping the team out. Plus, he does seem like a nice enough guy.

[SkinsSyco4Life]

:applause: I felt the same way about Ramsey. The thing I really like about both of them is that they both have the work ethic to get it done. I have every confidence that JC will spend a lot of time with Zorn working on his footwork, technique, reads, timing and overall knowledge of the offense this offseason.

Ultimately he may not turn out to be a franchise QB. However, if that turns out to be the case it won't be because he didn't put in the effort or because he was at the club until 2 AM *cough* Rod Gardner *cough*. At that point it really won't be hard to part ways without worrying too much that we might be letting a guy go who could blow up later.

After a second full offseason of coaching from Zorn I fully expect him to take a huge step forward next season.


Just so we keep things accurate, thought I`d fix that for ya.

:2cents:

[ST is my boy]

Im just glad we finally have a QB that can stay out of trouble.

Mark Brunells crack habit, and Patrick Ramsey's addiction to prostitutes was getting ridiculous.

:silly:

[#98QBKiller]

I was glad to see JC finish all of the games this season. I really hope he takes some major strides next season though.

[BigRedskinDaddy]

A lot of people, myself included, often overlook Jason's toughness. He's so tall and lanky, and plays so straight up and down, that at times you catch yourself kind of holding your breath after a hit or when he takes off running and tries to slide. The man can definitely take a hit, and on occasion deliver one.

He needs to work on his sliding though. Sooner or later somebody is going to get a kill shot in on him if he doesn't get to the ground better.

[#21Taylor4Ever]

I knew he was tough after that Giants game in 06, I believe. The game meant nothing, the hit was gruesome, the guy should've stayed out. But no, Jason came back in and played well.

No matter what's said here about Campbell, no one can question is toughness.

[AirMayo21]

Did he take every snap? I can't remember. That is even a greater rarity if he did, especially with some of the shots he took.

He did take every snap.

[Burgold]

I thought last year that Campbell's could turn out to be a good to very good qb. I didn't think he had "great" in him. I think this year kind of built on that feeling. He's above a Rypien/Shroeder, but he'll never be a Montana/Elway. However, if given adequate protection, he can be accurate, doesn't make a lot of big mistakes, and is willing to wait to get it right. What he's missing internally is the confidence to take a chance to do something special. Now, I wouldn't want Campbell to go to the Farve extreme, but I do think he can take many more risks.

Now, the good thing about having sixteen games of film for him to study is he can look back and see the opportunities he's missed. It really gives him a chance to not only understand defenses but himself better.

Most importantly, as I said before. Now, he has done it. He's completed a season with no astericks. He no longer has excuses. (It's still cool for fans, but not him)

[Gart Monk]

Does everyone realize by now that Brunell wasn't that bad?

[MDstar08]

Unfortunately, I do not see JC succeeding with Zorn and his offense. I hope I'm wrong, but I just see nothing in Zorn that would lead me to believe he can make this a viable offense next season.

Soon enough a basher! Wow!

[fullywoolyskin]

I am pretty sure he took all snaps

Not very amazing since we had close to a league record of 3 and outs.

[fullywoolyskin]

A lot of people, myself included, often overlook Jason's toughness. He's so tall and lanky, and plays so straight up and down, that at times you catch yourself kind of holding your breath after a hit or when he takes off running and tries to slide. The man can definitely take a hit, and on occasion deliver one.

He needs to work on his sliding though. Sooner or later somebody is going to get a kill shot in on him if he doesn't get to the ground better.

I hold my breath every time he attempts a pass.... will it get knocked down and the line of scrimmage..... will it bounce into the receiver...... will it sail high above the receiver so he can get the crap knocked out of him..... will it be behind the receiver so he either makes the catch but loses so much momentum that he is easily tackled for little to no gain..... or will he simply hold onto the ball so long that he succumbs to the sack or runs backwards for more loss on the play before taking the sack.

[Burgold]

You're working too hard at being negative. Exageration is not your friend.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

why is it considered "hate" when someone doesn't agree/like/support something? I don't wear Levi's 550s. Why do I have to hate them? I don't think Campbell is our future. Why is that considered "hating" him? Last time I checked I didn't hate him.

[TwentyOne]

I tip my cap to JC. The guy is a class act and he is tough as nails. He's finally got a full season under his belt and it's do or die next year. I think he will step up.

[jrfriedm]

For the first time in forever, we had a quarterback last all 16 games. That's pretty cool. Most of the time, that is a very good thing. That Campbell did it with all the knocks he took (some of which he earned, some were great defensive efforts, and others still lousy blocking) and the a ground game that ground to a halt and a passing offense that seemed incapable of generating big plays to reduce pressure... that's kind of impressive.

No matter if you are a basher, objective critic, or lover one can admit that Campbell took his lumps this year and had a full seaon to learn on. Each high and low, each opportunity missed, stolen or taken... he was part of. When the game was crucial, he was there. When the game was a gimmee (and then suddenly wasn't) he was there.

Starting all sixteen games and feeling the ebbs and flows of an entire season and having your coaches have sixteen games worth of footage has got to be invaluable.

It's pretty rare to have a 16 game starter anymore. It takes a combination of luck, will, and pain tolerance.

I will give Campbell that much credit. He did take a hell of a pounding and he kept on coming. He is a tough man, unfortantly he's just not that good of a QB.

[21DIEHARDSKINSFAN21]

im sure yall have heard that if a qb takes enough hits he will get rattled in the pocket, nervous and not trust his o-line to where thats why he looks uncomfortable. put ya self in his position if you got hit 7-8 times a game would you not trust ya o-line and play as effective as u can.

[IHOPSkins]

I think its pretty safe to say if Collins was our QB all year and took those shots he wouldnt have lasted 4 games.He did last year

[HawaiianTime]

im sure yall have heard that if a qb takes enough hits he will get rattled in the pocket, nervous and not trust his o-line to where thats why he looks uncomfortable. put ya self in his position if you got hit 7-8 times a game would you not trust ya o-line and play as effective as u can.


The same goes for a receiver that has a QB that leaves them hanging to be clocked by the D.

[txkid]

Collins and Brennan have not taken a snap since preseason. Amazing.

[Jumbo]

I hold my breath every time he attempts a pass.... will it get knocked down and the line of scrimmage..... will it bounce into the receiver...... will it sail high above the receiver so he can get the crap knocked out of him..... will it be behind the receiver so he either makes the catch but loses so much momentum that he is easily tackled for little to no gain..... or will he simply hold onto the ball so long that he succumbs to the sack or runs backwards for more loss on the play before taking the sack.


Speaking of getting sacked. ;)

It's sort of fun for me when I spot a communications pattern that gives away some bozo who was perma-punted in the past for being a freakazoid, and has returned with a dupe acct and a new identity. :)

No matter how hard you try, it's usually just a matter of time before something trips the sensors. :cool:

And you were a special igwad indeed. So buh-bye again. See you in your next guise. :rolleyes:

If I ever do the "A Mod's View" deal mentioned in the "What Would YOU Like To See From ES" thread, your user notes will be among those featured. :D

[UltimateSkinFan616]

Say what you will about JC's performance, but the fact he's taking every snap is good for this team. One of the trademarks of all good teams is that they are stable at quarterback. This is the first year in a long time we've had some sense of stability behind center. And that's good for the team, but it's still questionable whether or not it will be good enough to win a championship.

[Oldfan]

Unfortunately, I do not see JC succeeding with Zorn and his offense. I hope I'm wrong, but I just see nothing in Zorn that would lead me to believe he can make this a viable offense next season.

Allow me to try to raise your hopes.

Take the year overall, not just the second half when injuries, like the one to Chris Samuels, took their toll -- and consider how well the offense moved the chains, controlled the football, and played the field position game. Consider also how few short-field opportunities were provided by the defense.

Then, bear in mind that Cooley is the only receiver we had prepared to play in a WCO ball control offense -- and that next year our three big rookie receivers can be expected to make a contribution.

Feel better?:D

[Chump Bailey]

Allow me to try to raise your hopes.

Take the year overall, not just the second half when injuries, like the one to Chris Samuels, took their toll -- and consider how well the offense moved the chains, controlled the football, and played the field position game. Consider also how few short-field opportunities were provided by the defense.

Then, bear in mind that Cooley is the only receiver we had prepared to play in a WCO ball control offense -- and that next year our three big rookie receivers can be expected to make a contribution.

Feel better?:D

A little OF :)

I do try to take the aggregate into account, but the last half was just so bad, that it really left me wondering if indeed Zorn is the right guy. I also think the Eagles game saved his bacon. I just saw nothing from him in the last half. No urgency to get the rookies more involved or ready when he knows full well how dire our need is on offense to find more playmakers. I'm also tired of hearing how well they all look in practice. No adjustments I could discern. The same inept passing game week in and week out.

JC's mechanics might have improved, but is it ultimately just a futile effort because it may just boil down to JC not being a WCO type QB. Honestly OF, at the end of the day, I find myself really wanting Mike Shanahan. I really think he is the better coach/teacher and could turn this offense into a contender in one offseason with some key additions/upgrades in areas of course. I can't say the same for Zorn.