Stupid: Singing the Name of the Performers in the Song

[Jumbo]

There's this stupid **** that's become a popular new convention in pop music. I play a song that may be fine otherwise and the artist or someone doing back-up vocals sings their name and/or the name of a co-performers in the song, pretty much screwing up any positives I felt about the song. Even if it's meant to just be a dance tune and the lyrics are whisper-thin anyway, it's still a retarded ego-silly practice. :)

"shakira, shakira"
"jay-z, jay-z"
"rhianna, T-pain, rhianna, T-pain"
"kanye, ludacris, dolly, englebert, kanye, ludacris, dolly, englebert"

People are morons, they really are. I thought you'd want to know. :)

<reading in the tailgate has damaged my previously benign outlook on humanity>


P.S. Feel free to add your own pet musical peeve related to the current scene (if you have one).

[MSB 21]

I blame Limp Bizkit.

[chipwhich]

I blame Limp Bizkit.

Rappers have been doing it since before Limp Bizkit was born.

[techboy]

It never bothered me.

techboy, techboy.

[zoony]

I've always been highly annoyed by the obligatory Christmas album that every pop star feels they need to release at some point in their careers, mostly because they're running low on money.

STFU please. Thanks.




p.s. zoony, zoony... zoony, zoony

[SpringfieldSkins]

Rappers have been doing it since before Limp Bizkit was born.


I was thinking the same thing myself. I've heard this in rap as long as I've been listening.


I remember BIG mentioning his name in plenty of songs. Dr. Dre did it I'm sure. I don't ever remember Tupac doing it. One of the things that let me know who was rapping in a song when I first started listening to rap was what they said their name was during the song. This goes back to the early 90's.

[chipwhich]

I was thinking the same thing myself. I've heard this in rap as long as I've been listening.


I remember BIG mentioning his name in plenty of songs. Dr. Dre did it I'm sure. I don't ever remember Tupac doing it. One of the things that let me know who was rapping in a song when I first started listening to rap was what they said their name was during the song. This goes back to the early 90's.

Run DMC did it in the early 80's. Black "funk" groups did it in the 70's.

[Hunny]

Over-doing the synthesized voice pisses me off.

[SpringfieldSkins]

Over-doing the synthesized voice pisses me off.


It's the "next big thing". Too bad it got old really fast.



Too bad we'll have to hear it on all the pop/rap tracks for the next 6 months to a year.:doh:

[SC_RedskinsFan]

The first thing that i thought of was,

My name is Kid Rock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6nvrYopHV8

[THEREALTOR1]

Over-doing the synthesized voice pisses me off.

Ugh... God I hate that. :mad:

[Toe Jam]

My music pet peeve?

Anything Lil' Wayne.

I don't think he tries to rap anymore. He just makes noises. At one point, it sounded like he was having an orgasm on one of his tracks.

[Tastes Like Chicken]

I can't stand groups that have abbreviated names. ex. TLC

[DCsportsfan53]

Are we differentiating between the name being pointlessly being sung in the background and the later mentioned version of, say, Biggie? For example, this Biggie verse doesn't bother me the way what Jumbo's talking about does.


Doesn't it seem odd to you
Big come through with mobs and crews
Goodfellas down to the Mo Thugs dudes
Who's the killa, me or you?

[McD5]

Thie thread is Fergielicious.

[SpringfieldSkins]

Are we differentiating between the name being pointlessly being sung in the background and the later mentioned version of, say, Biggie? For example, this Biggie verse doesn't bother me the way what Jumbo's talking about does.


I understand what you are saying, but I think that all of the mindless name spouting originally spun off of rap. I can't point out what songs I would say started this, but it was many years ago and it didn't happen every single song.

Today, they've found something that is good for the radio or the clubs and they run with it.


In the same light, I wouldn't mind it if they used the auto-tune (or whatever that synth is called) only every once in a while. The problem is, I can name more than 10 songs right now that use it extensively. It caught on and now everyone wants it.

Auto Tune:
Arab Money (Busta Rhymes)
Pop Champagne (Ron Browz)
Swagga Like Us (Lil Wayne)
ALL of the Kanye West CD

[spjunkies]

You must really hate this song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HAMTNJD8xc)

[WVUforREDSKINS]

Jigga! Whats my mother****ing name? Jigga!
And who im rolling with?
All my niggaz!
uh uh uh bitches better get it right, playas better get it right. Jigga!

[SpringfieldSkins]

Jigga! Whats my mother****ing name? Jigga!
And who im rolling with?
All my niggaz!
uh uh uh bitches better get it right, playas better get it right. Jigga!


Actually...

It might be Jay Z that drove all the name calling to the forefront of pop music.

[10fttall]

It's the same ones who scream their own name during sex.

I used to be really annoyed that every single rapper had some song where they talked about how big and tough and cool they were (think Ice Ice Baby) These stupid things usually did good on the radio and were often one hit wonders. What kind of ****ing sense does that make? We don't want to hear rap with substance, but we just can't get enough of some guy spouting clever words about how much better he is than the other MC's?

[SpringfieldSkins]

It's the same ones who scream their own name during sex.



Wait... you mean... there's something wrong with that... um... I mean, nevermind.

[TK]

Jumbo the cure you're seeking is loud, rude, aggressive guitars. :)

[TK]

There's this stupid **** that's become a popular new convention in pop music. I play a song that may be fine otherwise and the artist or someone doing back-up vocals sings their name and/or the name of a co-performers in the song, pretty much screwing up any positives I felt about the song. Even if it's meant to just be a dance tune and the lyrics are whisper-thin anyway, it's still a retarded ego-silly practice. :)

"shakira, shakira"
"jay-z, jay-z"
"rhianna, T-pain, rhianna, T-pain"
"kanye, ludacris, dolly, englebert, kanye, ludacris, dolly, englebert"

People are morons, they really are. I thought you'd want to know. :)

<reading in the tailgate has damaged my previously benign outlook on humanity>


P.S. Feel free to add your own pet musical peeve related to the current scene (if you have one).
Fess up. You're really tired of people that sign their posts when their user name is already to the left of their post. :)

[SpringfieldSkins]

Fess up. You're really tired of people that sign their posts when their user name is already to the left of their post. :)


Paging Bang.




~SpringfieldSkins




:silly:

[Blackest Eyes]

Auto tune & melodyne are removing talent from music. On the majority of pop albums now, singers voices are auto tuned to death. It is freaking ridiculous. The singers don't even try to sing in pitch because they know there is a software plugin that can go back and fix their ****ty note. I hate that artists are using it as an instrument of effect. It is completely stupid. And hearing Kanye use it on SNL a few weeks back was a disgrace. Why are people like this selling millions of albums? There are far far far better artists to support than this garbage. There is no real art in pop music anymore. It is all copy-pasted, pro tools garbage.

Another thing that I hate now is the loudness war. Why does every freaking album have to be louder than the previous? Perfect example...Death Magnetic. Put that sucker in your car and then pop in something like Kill Em All and I'm willing to bet that you will have to turn the stereo up to be able to rock out to Kill Em All. Plus, while Death Magnetic is a good album, sonically, it sounds like utter garbage. Digital clipping and just pure loud. Gross. Nothing artistic about that at all. /endaudioengineerrant

It sickens me that a band like Porcupine Tree is not selling as many albums as ****ty hip hop, pop and rock artists. They are a top notch band. Their albums are incredibly musical and diverse. Their singer/mastermind is a musical f'n genius. I would even compare them to the Beatles. Real talent is not recognized in popular music today and it is a damn shame that record companies shove **** into peoples ears and try to pass it off as the next best thing. Real music, real talent is unheard of by the majority of folks and unfortunately, the real artists are making it nowhere.

Ugh, I'm bitter ols

[MLSKINS]

I don't listen to mainstream music

I listen to:
Christan Rap
POD
Matisyahu

All that other mainstream stuff is just annoying. Especially rap. We know you think you are a though, and you have the girls.

[chipwhich]

It sickens me that a band like Porcupine Tree is not selling as many albums as ****ty hip hop, pop and rock artists.

I call this the "musicphile" syndrom.

Over the years of my life there are the "musicphiles" who think what they listen to is above the general population.

Then there is the general population.

Some people just want to hear a catchy/pop tune. Some people look at music as an art form and think what they like is misunderstood for a lack of better terms.

Sort of elitist in my opinion.

Everyone likes different music for different reasons. No need to over complicate the why's of that.

Porcupine Tree....meh. There are bands like that that I hear over the decades. They appeal to a small subset...not to the masses. Doesn't make them better or worse than anyone else. It's just music. Enjoy what you like and get over what other peoples fancies are.

[Toe Jam]

I don't listen to mainstream music

I listen to:
Christan Rap
POD
Matisyahu

All that other mainstream stuff is just annoying. Especially rap. We know you think you are a though, and you have the girls.

You have a point.

It's starting to tire on me as well.

I may have to break out the Lecrae and KJ soon enough.

[Jumbo]

It never bothered me.

techboy, techboy.


When you do it, it seems cool.

[Toe Jam]

LOL@iTunes.

They are raising the prices on new releases. Songs will be $1.29 now.

So let's see.. mainstream music gets crappier and Apple thinks it's a good idea to charge more?

Bahaha.

Yeah, right.

[Jumbo]

Run DMC did it in the early 80's. Black "funk" groups did it in the 70's.


You're absolutely right, cw. And my attack of newer artists while ignoring past offenders probably reflects some oldschool bias on my part. :D


Jumbo the cure you're seeking is loud, rude, aggressive guitars. :) But of course, brother. I know your cure for The Cure is Pure Metal. :silly:


Fess up. You're really tired of people that sign their posts when their user name is already to the left of their post. :)

You had me at "You're really tired of people..." :)

[Blackest Eyes]

I call this the "musicphile" syndrom.

Over the years of my life there are the "musicphiles" who think what they listen to is above the general population.

Then there is the general population.

Some people just want to hear a catchy/pop tune. Some people look at music as an art form and think what they like is misunderstood for a lack of better terms.

Sort of elitist in my opinion.

Everyone likes different music for different reasons. No need to over complicate the why's of that.

Porcupine Tree....meh. There are bands like that that I hear over the decades. They appeal to a small subset...not to the masses. Doesn't make them better or worse than anyone else. It's just music. Enjoy what you like and get over what other peoples fancies are.

I realize everyone enjoys different things and that is completely fine. That is one of the things that makes music so great is that there is so much to choose from and people can pick and choose what they listen to. I guess I don't understand how people can really enjoy something like a Gwen Stefani record more than a Billy Joel album or something.

And if you want to call me an elitist or "musicphile", that is fine. I am a musician, I am pretty well-educated in the subject, of course I am going to be somewhat of an elitist about it. I am glad that I can appreciate music with real depth and meaning. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with a good pop tune that is simple and catchy. Not all music has to be written by a genius for it to be good. Like I said, I just fail to see how some artists are struggling to sell albums when other artists are raking in the cash and managing to have little talent to go with it.

[STBonecrusher21]

It sickens me that a band like Porcupine Tree is not selling as many albums as ****ty hip hop, pop and rock artists. They are a top notch band. Their albums are incredibly musical and diverse. Their singer/mastermind is a musical f'n genius. I would even compare them to the Beatles. Real talent is not recognized in popular music today and it is a damn shame that record companies shove **** into peoples ears and try to pass it off as the next best thing. Real music, real talent is unheard of by the majority of folks and unfortunately, the real artists are making it nowhere.

Ugh, I'm bitter ols

I've seen you mention these guys numerous times. Gave them a quick glance and am a bit intrigued. Any favorite tracks you'd reccomend?

:applause:

[Blackest Eyes]

LOL@iTunes.

They are raising the prices on new releases. Songs will be $1.29 now.

So let's see.. mainstream music gets crappier and Apple thinks it's a good idea to charge more?

Bahaha.

Yeah, right.

DRM Free. And Apple has to raise the prices because the companies basically forced them to raise prices to offer DRM free music. Don't people want music that is DRM free so they can use it on other devices other than their iPods? Not like there is a pop album with 12 good songs on it anyway...so you are still saving money by purchasing the good ones and leaving off the crappy ones.

[Blackest Eyes]

I've seen you mention these guys numerous times. Gave them a quick glance and am a bit intrigued. Any favorite tracks you'd reccomend?

:applause:

Blackest Eyes is a good one to start with.:)
Just some off the top of my head...

Trains
Piano Lessons
Lightbulb Sun
Hatesong
Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Collapse the Light Into Earth <---probably one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard
Russia On Ice
Four Chords that Made a Million
Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled
Signify
Deadwing
Lazarus
Open Car
Shesmovedon
Way Out Of Here
Heart Attack in a Lay By
The Rest Will Flow
Feel So Low
Sever
Stupid Dream
A Smart Kid

That should get you going ols.

[chipwhich]

I realize everyone enjoys different things and that is completely fine. That is one of the things that makes music so great is that there is so much to choose from and people can pick and choose what they listen to. I guess I don't understand how people can really enjoy something like a Gwen Stefani record more than a Billy Joel album or something.


Just to keep it simple, and "real" :laugh:

My kids like Gwen Stefani.

They could care less about the porcupine music if they ever heard it. I would say the majority of the population is not over sophisticated when it comes to music.

Some people like to keep it simple, some like to over evaluate music. In the end it's just a pleasure to different peoples ears.

Don't make music more than it is. It's just music.

No more, no less.

[Toe Jam]

DRM Free. And Apple has to raise the prices because the companies basically forced them to raise prices to offer DRM free music. Don't people want music that is DRM free so they can use it on other devices other than their iPods? Not like there is a pop album with 12 good songs on it anyway...so you are still saving money by purchasing the good ones and leaving off the crappy ones.

Personally, I don't need DRM free.

I have an iPod, a stereo that connects to the iPod, and whatnot. But you have a point, I guess.

There are some albums I'll buy automatically anyway.

[STBonecrusher21]

Blackest Eyes is a good one to start with.:)
Just some off the top of my head...

Thanks dude. Checking them out now.

Coheed and Cambria is BY FAR my favorite band, but I'm always open to finding new. substantial stuff.

[JWB]

Porcupine Tree and Coheed are both amazing bands, but to stay on topic all I got to add is:

"DJ Khaled!!! We the best!!!" Cmon really? Every track like that Khaled? I mean some of his songs are halfway decent like Go Hard, We Takin Over, Out Here Grindin, but come on man that **** is ridiculous

Also, it is certainly possible to enjoy all kinds of music and understand that there are many different types of talents.

[Blackest Eyes]

Just to keep it simple, and "real" :laugh:

My kids like Gwen Stefani.

They could care less about the porcupine music if they ever heard it. I would say the majority of the population is not over sophisticated when it comes to music.

Some people like to keep it simple, some like to over evaluate music. In the end it's just a pleasure to different peoples ears.

Don't make music more than it is. It's just music.

No more, no less.

I agree that its different strokes for different folks. And I completely respect that not everyone wants to sit and listen to a real song and they would rather listen to a beat they can dance to or listen to a guy recite some crazy rhymes. Thats all good and well. And I am sure Gwen Stefani appreciates your kids purchasing her albums (or downloading ;)).



Don't make music more than it is. It's just music.

No more, no less.

Not really sure how to take that one though. :rubeyes:

[SpringfieldSkins]

Don't make music more than it is. It's just music.

No more, no less.



Not really sure how to take that one though. :rubeyes:


I'm not an audiophile, but I agree with Blackest Eyes here. Music is the soundtrack for my life. Songs will always remind me of a place, a person or a time.

[Blackest Eyes]

Personally, I don't need DRM free.

I have an iPod, a stereo that connects to the iPod, and whatnot. But you have a point, I guess.

There are some albums I'll buy automatically anyway.

I'm with you on this. But I guess this is Apple's way of opening up the iTunes store to people without iPods or something. They have been trying to get DRM free music for the longest time without raising the price but the record companies complained about that idea. So I guess Apple just had to meet their requirements.


Thanks dude. Checking them out now.

but I'm always open to finding new. substantial stuff.
No problem. I'm always up for new stuff too.


Porcupine Tree and Coheed are both amazing bands, but to stay on topic all I got to add is:

"DJ Khaled!!! We the best!!!" Cmon really? Every track like that Khaled? I mean some of his songs are halfway decent like Go Hard, We Takin Over, Out Here Grindin, but come on man that **** is ridiculous

Also, it is certainly possible to enjoy all kinds of music and understand that there are many different types of talents.

It seems that rap does the name thing more than other genres. Maybe they think their listeners forgot who they were listening to? ols


I'm not an audiophile, but I agree with Blackest Eyes here. Music is the soundtrack for my life. Songs will always remind me of a place, a person or a time.

Yeah, I was trying to think of how I felt about the comment but what you said sums it up the best. I'd be lost without music.

[motorhead]

I ****ing hate it when I pay say $100. to see a band and they start talking political BS. I didn't come here to hear how you feel about G.Bush or the war I want to hear you ****ing sing and play damn it.:rant:

Motorhead,Motorhead

[dcoles11]

I hate songs that have like 9 different artist (if thats what you want to call them) in one song. They basically say their name, make some noise, and thats the pretty much it for their contriubtion to the song.

[Toe Jam]

I hate songs that have like 9 different artist (if thats what you want to call them) in one song. They basically say their name, make some noise, and thats the pretty much it for their contriubtion to the song.

I pretty much hate any kind of roll call in a song.

[Capt Rich Fla]

I've seen you mention these guys numerous times. Gave them a quick glance and am a bit intrigued. Any favorite tracks you'd reccomend?

:applause:

ST, that sig is too much. I almost spit my coffee out when that freaking cat started dancing.:rotflmao:

[dcoles11]

I also hate country music songs that talk about the war or god

[Blackest Eyes]

I also hate country music songs that talk about the war or god

ols that is a lot of country tunes then.

[Midnight Judges]

honestly I don't know how anyone over the age of 14 can listen to that crap.

[Titaw]

I can't stand when they put a damn spelling bee in the effing song and one crapper, yup there aren't any real rappers out there anymore, does it all the time. "F-A-B-O-L-O-U-S" really? I mean REALLY? You can't even spell.

Also, I blame the Smashing Pumpkins for the sad state of rock now, or should I say the "emo period" of rock.

[Chachie]

I don't know if it's because I'm over 40 or not but I seem to hate all rap these days. In the 80s I liked it, in the 90s I loved it. Now I just cannot STAND rap music. It's just plain stupid IMO.


P.S.- Jumbo! Jumbo!