With all the talk of a good change of pace back to compliment Portis...

[.Guy.]

have we taken time to consider what this would most likely cause? I feel that if we bring in a good back to help compliment him, Portis will get his panties in a bunch. Even the fact that I am thinking this is a terrible sign. I mean Portis plays hard and he doesn't like to share the load with any one. He didn't seem very happy when we signed Alexander... He doesn't like it when Betts get extended playing time.

I just feel that sometimes that when we try improve certain positions we don't go through with it to avoid butt hurting players. Its this type of environment at Redskins Park that is causing us to stay mediocre. Why are we so damn concerned about players feelings. This is about winning not promoting job security.

Portis is a prime example. We sometimes avoid making moves to placate him. We sign a good running back to help take the load of Portis and next you know Portis is on the radio saying this team doesn't need him anymore and he feels like an outsider. Its just pathetic that I am even thinking about these scenarios.

Basically what I am trying to say is that since Portis is so vocal about his opinions other players start to feel the same way. We need this team to believe in one goal: to win at all costs.

As it is right now each player is out for his own. And as long it stays that way we will NEVER win.

[Oldfan]

As it is right now each player is out for his own. And as long it stays that way we will NEVER win.

You have 53 players, with 53 personalities, on the team. Some are good team players, some aren't. That will be the same on every team.

I doubt that the decision-makers on personnel are influenced by a desire to make Clinton Portis happy.

I think we need a 240-pound power back, a Steven Jackson type, to help us move the chains and get us into the endzone.

[Toe Jam]

CP would throw a hissy fit if they brought someone else in here.

You would probably be able to hear his head explode all the way in California.

[Pete]

You have 53 players, with 53 personalities, on the team. Some are good team players, some aren't. That will be the same on every team.

I doubt that the decision-makers on personnel are influenced by a desire to make Clinton Portis happy.

I think we need a 240-pound power back, a Steven Jackson type, to help us move the chains and get us into the endzone.

While I agree with most you say, I would go in a different direction. A scat back to compliment Portis, or whoever is our starting back. Somebody with explosive speed, that can break long runs often, without running out of gas 25 yards down the field as we've seen too often.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

While I agree with most you say, I would go in a different direction. A scat back to compliment Portis, or whoever is our starting back. Somebody with explosive speed, that can break long runs often, without running out of gas 25 yards down the field as we've seen too often.

Paging Darren Sproles....

[Mad Mike]

I've got a move. Get rid of Portis. He's a loser and a whiner and he is destroying the team.

[Toe Jam]

I've got a move. Get rid of Portis. He's a loser and a whiner and he is destroying the team.

In other words, a cancer.:cool:

[Veretax]

The cure for that is to bench him. Period. You bring in who makes your team better, and the current crop either accepts it and plays their heart out or can ride the pine as far as I'm concerned.

[Pounds]

I don't think that CP minds sharing the load, to an extent, he just wants the autonomy to sub himself in/out whenever he feels ready, and not necessarily at the coach's discretion. That is why he and Zorn clashed on the sidelines in Detroit. Nor do I believe Zorn, Vinny and co. are in the business of worrying about what CP thinks if Betts gets more than a few carries, or the front office signs/drafts a RB (at least I hope not).

Portis simply needs to grow up and act like a civilized human being, rather than some punk child. If not, well then, he needs to see the pine.

[MartinC]

I've got a move. Get rid of Portis. He's a loser and a whiner and he is destroying the team.

I think Portis is a guy who just loves the sound of his own voice, who has a great sense of his own importance and who will say things for attention from time to time.

He may be a pain in the arse sometimes and I do wish he - along with a lot of professional athletes - would just shut up and play, but he gives it 100% on a Sunday and thats all you can really ask for. I don't think he is a cancer - I suspect most of the team find him mildly amusing some of the time and then just tune him out as background noise.

Lets not forget that he had almost 1500 yards rushing this year and did that without the benefit of a consistent passing attack. Teams were stacked aginst Ports for most the of the season.

The guy has a mouth - but he walks his talk most of the time and our offense for better or worse is built around him. For all practical purposes there is no way he going anywhere anyway - we would have an 8 figure cap hit if we cut or traded him.

We do need to cut his carries down though so he can be fresh all year. Betts could do that I think if we commit to giving him more than a carry here and there. We do need to find a short yardage and goalline back though.

[djbubba4life]

You have 53 players, with 53 personalities, on the team. Some are good team players, some aren't. That will be the same on every team.

I doubt that the decision-makers on personnel are influenced by a desire to make Clinton Portis happy.

I think we need a 240-pound power back, a Steven Jackson type, to help us move the chains and get us into the endzone.

Totally the opposite, i think we need to pickup a little speedy dude late in the draft, make it next years tashard choice or something.

[nightbird]

Totally the opposite, i think we need to pickup a little speedy dude late in the draft, make it next years tashard choice or something.

There's a young man playing for the Wyoming Cowboys who fits the bill.

Could be had in the 4th or 5th round probably.

[gkekoa]

Don't draft a RB. Look at free agent rookies for your change of pace.

[TGI Jef]

i think that, with his current attitude, Portis might have possibly thrown a fit a few years ago if we brought in someone else.

but now i think it is so overwelmingly obvious and so often stated that a 2 RB system is needed to be successful that even Portis would understand and take it for waht it is - not a slap in the face to him, but an attempt to become a better running TEAM.

simply put, bringing in a complimentary running back to play with a star running back does not send the same message it once did.

[Never4get#21]

We need a bruiser that will wear down the opposing defenses in the 2nd half. Early in the season we won because we wore teams down in the second half. CP cant take a full season beating as weve seen over the years. A good 1-2 combo of CP speed and A bruiser is what Minn, Giants, Carolina, Baltimore, and Tennesee have been very successfull with this season. Betts is not the answer. He's decent as a pass catching RB but no real threat. I would love to see us part ways with Betts and bring in Sproles for the passing situations. I hope we find a bruiser in the offseason. I brought up L.Johnson because I think the change of venue would benefit him. Playing for a losing organization can drag on you. Look at us now.

[Warpath11]

At this point in his career and running syle, Portis, is basically the bruiser on this roster. His weight went up from a shade over 200 lbs (in Denver) to close to 225 lbs (when he got here). He did this to extend his life span as a running back and he adapted well to the new running style (what Joe Gibbs asked him to do).

If we do choose to pursue a change of pace back I am with the people clamoring for a speed/scat guy that can take it to the house everytime he touches the ball. Someone like Chris Johnson/Darren Sproles/Steve Slaton etc...

edit: From the likely available guys in the upcoming draft I think these player fit the bill. Obviously some of these guys will be early picks and not right for us but there are a few late round prospects.

CJ Spiller (probably a 1-2 round pick)
Marcus Thigpen (better KR than RB but still very explosive)
LaMarcus Coker (fast but a headcase with a drug problem UDFA??)
Keegan Herring (maybe injury prone)
Devin Moore (looks promising maybe this years Chris Johnson after the combine)

[onnie007]

CP is the man. We just need an younger back to compliment him and has similar vision. Ladell "I Make Only One Cut" Betts should have been traded to last year when his stock was at its highest. Maybe we can get some picks for him now. He is a mediocre back who has made himself comfortable here. :2cents:

[MLSKINS]

I think we need a 240-pound power back, a Steven Jackson type, to help us move the chains and get us into the endzone.

Portis is slowing becoming Steven Jackson, he has lost his explosiveness. We really really really need a Home Run back. I think the last time we had a run over 50 yards was probably Portis' first run versus the Bucs in 04.

[SkinsRMoney06]

He has definitely lost a step. Hes still a good back but you can see that he doesnt have that burst once hes in the open field anymore.

[Never4get#21]

I agree with Sproles. I mention picking him up in FA earlier this season when I noticed he was going to be available. CP did pick up weight but he's not durable enough to be considered a bruising back. Get rid of Betts and get a quicker homerun threat. We still need a goal-line/3rd and short bruiser. Sellers may fill the roll if we improve the line. He wasnt as effective in the short game because the line did not get enough push.

I dont think J. Candle goes through his progressions enough to take advantage of a Sproles.

[tone_dubbz]

Portis is slowing becoming Steven Jackson, he has lost his explosiveness. We really really really need a Home Run back. I think the last time we had a run over 50 yards was probably Portis' first run versus the Bucs in 04.

Yeah, I think we need more of a scat back with quickness and speed. Portis has lost that break away speed once he hits the secondary. I could see us using Portis as the betweent the tackle power back, and possibly drafting a young speedy back since we let Marcus Mason go.

[panel]

Why is Betts not a good change of pace?

To me, any talk of getting a new RB is just fan speculation, because fans seem to think RBs are the most import ant part of the team because they see the RB on TV carry the ball a lot.

When in actuallity more goes into the sucess of the running game than the RB and his "change of pace", like the blocking of the line a receivers, and the ability to set up the run, by running plays that spread the D, and making sure that your ALL your players know enough of the playbook so that you can call any play in the playbook to help spread out the feild.

And RBs are a more "fun" position to think about than Linemen and Linebackers.

[Ernie5]

While I agree with most you say, I would go in a different direction. A scat back to compliment Portis, or whoever is our starting back. Somebody with explosive speed, that can break long runs often, without running out of gas 25 yards down the field as we've seen too often.

Agreed -- go with some crazy speed. If Portis doesn't like it, who cares?

[Ernie5]

Why is Betts not a good change of pace?

To me, any talk of getting a new RB is just fan speculation, because fans seem to think RBs are the most import ant part of the team because they see the RB on TV carry the ball a lot.

When in actuallity more goes into the sucess of the running game than the RB and his "change of pace", like the blocking of the line a receivers, and the ability to set up the run, by running plays that spread the D, and making sure that your ALL your players know enough of the playbook so that you can call any play in the playbook to help spread out the feild.

And RBs are a more "fun" position to think about than Linemen and Linebackers.

Betts is not the same runner as Portis, but does lots of the same things -- runs mostly inside, is neither small nor huge, not really a home run hitter.

[tone_dubbz]

Why is Betts not a good change of pace?

To me, any talk of getting a new RB is just fan speculation, because fans seem to think RBs are the most import ant part of the team because they see the RB on TV carry the ball a lot.

When in actuallity more goes into the sucess of the running game than the RB and his "change of pace", like the blocking of the line a receivers, and the ability to set up the run, by running plays that spread the D, and making sure that your ALL your players know enough of the playbook so that you can call any play in the playbook to help spread out the feild.

And RBs are a more "fun" position to think about than Linemen and Linebackers.

I didn't say that a running back would be a priority over a OLine man and DLine man. But I wouldn't mind using a later round pick on a speedy back. I don't see Betts as a significant change of pace to Portis. They both lack break away speed. Plus I wouldn't mind getting a back with some descent hands too.

[McD5]

No need to "compliment" Portis.

Dump Portis. End of discussion.

Let him worry about his complimentary back in Detroit next season.


If Parcells was our coach/GM.......Portis would have been kicked off the team last night.


No need to put up with his crap. He sucks. 5 years, 1 playoff win. $60 million.

Next.

[buenosdiaz]

i think portis realize he cant go a whole season without some help...

dude was getting straight up beat up this year

[MLSKINS]

No need to "compliment" Portis.

Dump Portis. End of discussion.




What took you so long?

If we have a season like we did last year, or worst, then you might get your wish.

[Destino]

Why is Betts not a good change of pace?
Because he's a poor mans Clinton Portis that brings no other skills to the table. Change of pace means - different type of back. A speed guy or a bull brought in to give the offense more options out of the backfield.

[McD5]

Because he's a poor mans Clinton Portis that brings no other skills to the table. Change of pace means - different type of back. A speed guy or a bull brought in to give the offense more options out of the backfield.

He is a huge change of pace.

No me-first baby bs like Portis. Not a cancer.

Much better receiver out of the backfield.

1/5th the cost of Portis.

More punishing back. He actually hurts defenders.

Night and Day difference. Now the question is, who can we get to compliment Betts.

If we were a real team....with a Parcells type....they would be working on this right now.

[TerpSkin]

We might have the right guy on the roster already. A few years back, Nemo Broughton was forced into RB duty in the preseason because of injuries. He looked great, and he is a big, bruising guy. After that, he's had some injuries and put back in the role of backup FB to Sellers. But after seeing what an unheralded FB like Leron McClain has done in B'more, I would really like to see us give Nemo another chance to show his stuff at RB. He's been with the team a few years now and is probably already very well-versed in the pass-pro duties.

[Warpath11]

If we were a real team....with a Parcells type....they would be working on this right now.

Dude even if Parcells were here there is no way he could move CP with that messed up contract. Though if Parcells was here I doubt CP gets that stupid big contract but that is not the situation. No GM would come into this situation thinking they could reasonably get rid of CP in the next 2 years. So we are with CP whether you like it or not so lets not talk about getting rid of him since it is impossible. kthanks.

[McD5]

Dude even if Parcells were here there is no way he could move CP with that messed up contract. Though if Parcells was here I doubt CP gets that stupid big contract but that is not the situation. No GM would come into this situation thinking they could reasonably get rid of CP in the next 2 years. So we are with CP whether you like it or not so lets not talk about getting rid of him since it is impossible. kthanks.

While he has the worst contract in the history of the franchise, nothing is impossible.

If we had a smart FO, which of course we don't....one of the worst three in the league in fact, we would do exactly what Parcells did with JT.

Hold Portis until training camp. Wait for someone else's starting RB to have a serious injury, and then deal him.....receiving some help back on the cap hit.

It isn't difficult to run a good NFL team. We just have morons in charge.

[Jbank31]

Personally I would draft the best possible middle round back and just go o line and d line for the rest of the draft. Also if you don't think Colt Brennan can play, then I say draft a qb as I do not think Jason Campbell is the answer. He holds the ball too long and doesn't recognize blitzes. Also Clinton Portis would be traded or released in the off season if it were my team. At this point you either turn the team over to Zorn or you let Portis run it.

[fire3fighter4]

Don't draft a RB. Look at free agent rookies for your change of pace.
Agreed.

People, we have FOUR picks this year...Are you seriously telling me you can't think of 4 bigger needs on this team than RB?....



OL(X2, maybe even 3)
DT > RB
DE
OLB



you could even argue a 3rd CB is needed with Smoots age, and Springs leaving.

[fire3fighter4]

He is a huge change of pace.

No me-first baby bs like Portis. Not a cancer.

Much better receiver out of the backfield.

1/5th the cost of Portis.

More punishing back. He actually hurts defenders.

Night and Day difference. Now the question is, who can we get to compliment Betts.

If we were a real team....with a Parcells type....they would be working on this right now.
You forgot the part about him not even being close to having the talent Portis has(which is why he's always been a back up/2nd back, and the fact that he'll be 30 next season....I don't know about you, but I can't name too many succesful backs that are 30+...

[panel]

Look, we are set at RB,

If Portis goes down, Betts can finish the year and not waste the season,

Betts is a change of pace, Betts style is to wait for a hole to open up, Portis' is to attack full speed ahead. Betts is a receiving back, CP is a blocking back.

Rock is great too, KR ability, speed, and has two 100 yard games in the small amount of games he was starting for us several years back.

Why waste picks, cap, time on a position that will not improve the team that much, but does have the posibility to hurt the team if things go wrong?

[McD5]

You forgot the part about him not even being close to having the talent Portis has(which is why he's always been a back up/2nd back, and the fact that he'll be 30 next season....I don't know about you, but I can't name too many succesful backs that are 30+...

You sound like Dan Snyder.

Truth is, no one knows for sure what kind of talent he has. Impossible to tell with 2-3 carries a game.

What we do know for sure, is that when he did start, he crushed anything Portis has ever done beyond belief:

2006: 1,150 yards in only 8 starts. Another nearly 500 yards in receiving.

2008: 1,497 yards for Portis....in 16 starts.

300 more yards in 8 more games. Pathetic.

And at 5x the cost of Betts to boot. Insane.

There is no statistical evidence at all that suggests that Portis is any better, when each is given the chance to start.

[fire3fighter4]

You sound like Dan Snyder.

There is no statistical evidence at all that suggests that Portis is any better, when each is given the chance to start.


Yeah you're right....The team has decided to make him 2nd string because he has much more talent...that's exactly it.



I really don't know why you ride his nuts so much....Your man-crush on betts is one of the biggest I've ever seen.


See you in a week. You ought to read the sticky threads before you come back.


-me

[Mongo2365]

Paging Darren Sproles....

I was watching the game the other night and that dude is tiny. But after seeing what he could do, I wouldn't be upset at all if we signed him.

[McD5]

Yeah you're right....The team has decided to make him 2nd string because he has much more talent...that's exactly it.



I really don't know why you ride his nuts so much....Your man-crush on betts is one of the biggest I've ever seen.

They choose to play him for the same two reasons that they choose to play JC.

1. They have too much invested in him. We gave up Champ, a 2nd rounder, and a small fortune in his salary/bonuses.

2. We don't have any men in the FO. We have wusses, who insist on staying with the starter, instead of actually giving the backup a chance to see if they might be better, and might be able to save us money. See Colt, Todd Collins and Betts.

Parcells would dump Portis immediately. No questions asked.

[Warpath11]

While he has the worst contract in the history of the franchise, nothing is impossible.

If we had a smart FO, which of course we don't....one of the worst three in the league in fact, we would do exactly what Parcells did with JT.

Hold Portis until training camp. Wait for someone else's starting RB to have a serious injury, and then deal him.....receiving some help back on the cap hit.

It isn't difficult to run a good NFL team. We just have morons in charge.

JTs contract is small peanuts compared to what Portis would cost if we cut him. Trading him would be hard becuase of the said contract as no team is dumb enough to pick it up even if their starters go down.

[fire3fighter4]

Parcells would dump Portis immediately. No questions asked.
And why is that?...He didn't bench TO, who was much more vocal and has even gone as far as saying the rest of the team is conspiring together to make sure he doesn't get the ball.

[McD5]

JTs contract is small peanuts compared to what Portis would cost if we cut him. Trading him would be hard becuase of the said contract as no team is dumb enough to pick it up even if their starters go down.

No team on earth was stupid enough to give up a second rounder for JT.....until we lost 2 linemen.

Now..granted, no one is near our level of FO stupidity.

But having said that, if a contender does lose their RB.....we can certainly get something for him. Maybe they eat half the cap hit for us.

[fire3fighter4]

Look, we are set at RB,



Why waste picks, cap, time on a position that will not improve the team that much, but does have the posibility to hurt the team if things go wrong?

exactly.

[McD5]

And why is that?...He didn't bench TO, who was much more vocal and has even gone as far as saying the rest of the team is conspiring together to make sure he doesn't get the ball.

Parcells wasn't allowed to dump TO.

Why do you think he left Dallas?

For the same reason that he would never come here. Because he can't have total control.

[fire3fighter4]

It isn't difficult to run a good NFL team.
And you would know this how?.......

I think we'd all love to see your resume.

[McD5]

And you would know this how?.......

I think we'd all love to see your resume.

How many players are on an nfl team?

53 plus the practice squad?

Add in another 70 trainers.....coaches....assistants.


I manage 273 employees. I manage their pay. I hire/fire them. I manage their production numbers and targets. I manage their personalities. And I work myself on top of it.

An nfl team would be a step down in terms of time and responsibility.

What would make you think it is so difficult? Sign contracts every few years, then fire them if they don't live up to expectations. Motivate them....and get them to play ball.

That is a small organization. Not exactly brain surgery.

[panel]

You sound like Dan Snyder.

Truth is, no one knows for sure what kind of talent he has. Impossible to tell with 2-3 carries a game.

What we do know for sure, is that when he did start, he crushed anything Portis has ever done beyond belief:

2006: 1,150 yards in only 8 starts. Another nearly 500 yards in receiving.

2008: 1,497 yards for Portis....in 16 starts.

300 more yards in 8 more games. Pathetic.

And at 5x the cost of Betts to boot. Insane.

There is no statistical evidence at all that suggests that Portis is any better, when each is given the chance to start.


That is some pretty deseptive math, while he may have only gotten 8 "starts", He played every game and was pretty much splitting carries the first half of the year with Portis, then he got the rest of the caries from the game Portis was out,

I like Betts and I don't think he should be replaced with some other "change of pace", and I think he can start in this league, but lets not be deceptive.

[McD5]

That is some pretty deseptive math, while he may have only gotten 8 "starts", He played every game and was pretty much splitting carries the first half of the year with Portis, then he got the rest of the caries from the game Portis was out,

I like Betts and I don't think he should be replaced with some other "change of pace", and I think he can start in this league, but lets not be deceptive.

Not being deceptive at all. He didn't get a ton of carries in those early games, didn't get the reps in practice, and came in cold.

Impressive to say the least.

[SkinsWizCubsDukes]

I don't think Portis would have a problem with anyone spelling him. If you remember correctly, he only got upset about Alexander when he was in on the first play of the offensive drive.

I think we need to trade Betts, get rid of Cartwright, and pick up a guy like CJ Spiller in the draft.

We could get some value for Betts right now (we should have traded him two years ago)

[SolidSnake84]

Portis would be whiny about any back brought here. He is destroying the team with his selfishness and ego. We need to get a running back that will just be happy to be here and start, not worry about pay or beg the coaches to get 1,500.00 yards. Start Betts and see what happens. There was a guy who turned down offers to start other places just because he was happy here and wanted to stay with the team. You'd never see Portis do that.

[Pete]

Look, we are set at RB,
Why waste picks, cap, time on a position that will not improve the team that much, but does have the posibility to hurt the team if things go wrong?


exactly.

I'm not saying to waste a draft pic, the lines need a major make over, but to say we're set a running back is crazy. Portis was walkin wonded for a good part of the season. Ya, he's da man because he goes out on the field hurt, and less productive.

Saying we're set at RB is like saying that we're set at right tackle with Jansen.

[panel]

Not being deceptive at all. He didn't get a ton of carries in those early games, didn't get the reps in practice, and came in cold.

Impressive to say the least.

No Doubt that was impressive, but more impressive was his 4.7 yard per carry that season. But he did get his carries in that year. He got more carries that year than any of our divisonal rival starting backs did this year.

[Hitecr]

I've got a move. Get rid of Portis. He's a loser and a whiner and he is destroying the team.

No

[panel]

I'm not saying to waste a draft pic, the lines need a major make over, but to say we're set a running back is crazy. Portis was walkin wonded for a good part of the season. Ya, he's da man because he goes out on the field hurt, and less productive.

Saying we're set at RB is like saying that we're set at right tackle with Jansen.

Not even Close!

Even with being hurt, Portis made the Pro Bowl,

Betts has proven he can be a starter, like McD5, he did go over 1,000 the year Portis went down. I havn't seen any evidence that he has lost a step, if Portis went down again, I have no doubt that he could preform.

I even think Rock would be solid in their too, every preseason he tears it up, and he has started regular season games for us too, and has gone over 100 yards in a couple of those games.

Not only that, but no one can even decide what would be the "compliment" to Portis, half the people said we should get a brusier to complement his speed and cuts, half say get a scat back to complement his physical running game.

It might be "fun" to think about having a Clinton Portis back feild mixed with some young speedy change of pace back in the mold of Reggie Bush, but that could actually make things worse. All these specalized "change of pace" backs have proven that they may be able to take a few carries here and there, but they can't carry the load. Betts CAN carry the load and has proven it. He also has a good proven repore with CP, and the offense has no trouble transitioning from CP to Betts.

The running game got worse when we "upgraded" with Shawn Alexander, I don't want to hear about how we need to make another move like this for next season.

If you think our RB situation is like or RT situation, you must think that Jansen is a Pro-bowler and that Heyer is a proven veteran, because that what we have at RB right now.

[Koolblue13]

Saying we're set at RB is like saying that we're set at right tackle with Jansen.

I would say it's just like our LT spot.

Great Pro Bowler and top 5 at his position, with a good back up behind him.

[33]

How many players are on an nfl team?

53 plus the practice squad?

Add in another 70 trainers.....coaches....assistants.


I manage 273 employees. I manage their pay. I hire/fire them. I manage their production numbers and targets. I manage their personalities. And I work myself on top of it.

An nfl team would be a step down in terms of time and responsibility.

What would make you think it is so difficult? Sign contracts every few years, then fire them if they don't live up to expectations. Motivate them....and get them to play ball.

That is a small organization. Not exactly brain surgery.

I'm quoting for posterity.

[SpringfieldSkins]

What we need is a Maurice Jones-Drew to our Fred Taylor.

[Gigantor]

As it is right now each player is out for his own. And as long it stays that way we will NEVER win.

Funny, that was NOT the case last year. I wonder what happened?

I miss Gibbs!

[BAFGA]

Look, we are set at RB,

If Portis goes down, Betts can finish the year and not waste the season,

Betts is a change of pace, Betts style is to wait for a hole to open up, Portis' is to attack full speed ahead. Betts is a receiving back, CP is a blocking back.

Rock is great too, KR ability, speed, and has two 100 yard games in the small amount of games he was starting for us several years back.

Why waste picks, cap, time on a position that will not improve the team that much, but does have the posibility to hurt the team if things go wrong?

This post sums up the situation perfectly.

Folks, like it or not, we're stuck with these guys. I can't say I'm too crazy about it but I blame Snyderrato and/or Gibbs for that. They gave Portis a contract that has made him unreleasable or untradeable. Betts has been used so little that his trade value is very low.

I'm sure Snyderrato will be blinded by some shiny skill position player and draft him in the first round without addressing any of the needs of the team. Never fails.

[AFskinsfan]

I believe we already had that player and let him go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YYyCSlPjq0