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Mark The Homer
January-7th-2009, 10:04 AM
I don't usually share, but I'm going to share this because I think it's an important lesson on why we should try to stay healthy. I have no medical background, but this is my understanding of what happened to a friend of mine.

I needed tix for the Baltimore game and wasn't sure what I was going to do as they were very expensive. I figured I'd probably end up in the upper deck and I was hoping to find something for between 3 and 4 hundred dollars for the pair.

To the rescue is a friend who has four season tix on the LL sidelines, row 8. He could have sold his tickets on stubhub for $1200, but instead he sold them to me at face for $400 because he knew I wanted to go to the game (I sold two to Teddy833 for face). That's just a backdrop on what a decent guy he is.

Dec 16th, his wife (age about 40) calls him because she has a horrible headache. He picks her up and they go to the ER. They do a scan and see she has an aneurism. It had not yet burst. I found this out that evening.

What is an aneurism? I had to google it. In layman's terms, it's a blood vessel that has ballooned out because of abnormal thinness in the vein wall. A victim is born with this thinness and it's considered a birth defect. There's no way to know you have this or detect it until a problem occurs.

An operation was scheduled and done the following afternoon (Dec 17) at George Washington U hospital. My understanding is a stint was installed. It went well. The operation was termed a success. Recovery would take 3-4 weeks.

Monday Dec 22, they did another brain scan which is protocol. That scan revealed blood vessel blockages or near-blockages in several places which required more surgery, because if they weren't dealt with, they would increase the risk of another aneurism due to high pressure on the vein walls. The doctors went in again that day and installed stints within the problem areas. It went well. The operation was termed a success.

At some point after the second surgery (Tu or W I think), the doctors initiated a "pressure test", similar to what a plumber will do after installing or repairing a pipe. The doctors purposely increased the blood pressure of the patient to test their repair. Again, this is protocol, from what I understand.

Wednesday evening, we went to Christmas eve service. We actually sat on the same bench and talked football. He was very upbeat and happy. I joked with him that I was jealous of his Ravens. He and his 14 year old daughter came over to our house afterwards and his daughter and my youngest (see blonde in sig) traded gifts. They were both happy and full of cheer - saying they would celebrate their REAL Christmas when his wife/mom came home in a few weeks.

Christmas morning his wife slipped into a coma. I don't know the exact details except that the doctors were not optimistic about this.

Saturday, Dec 27, they did more tests and determined she would never regain consciousness. She was (in my understanding) "brain dead."

She has been cremated. The funeral is Saturday.

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How did this happen?

My understanding is, although the aneurim is considered a birth defect, the blockage or almost-blockage of the blood vessels is due to disease (not sure what the disease is called), but it occurs to me it might be brought on by high cholesterol and high blood pressure. That is, one might have high-cholesterol, and that could create small blockages. Add high blood pressure, and this puts abnormal stress on your entire circulatory system.

Moral to this thread: Life is short. Take care of yourself. Keep your cholesterol down. Keep your blood pressure down. Keep your weight down. Eat right. Get a physical regularly.

PleaseBlitz
January-7th-2009, 10:16 AM
Way too much death going on around here. So sorry for your freinds Mark.

Mad Mike
January-7th-2009, 10:27 AM
So sad.

Several years ago I friend died suddenly from an aneurism. She was a sweet girl and she was engaged to another friend. She woke up one morning complaining of a head ache. A few hours later she was gone. Needless to say all of us within that circle of friends were stunned.

Embrace life while you have it people.

Dan T.
January-7th-2009, 10:34 AM
Sad news, Mark. Peace to your friend and his family, to your family, and to you.

GibbsFactor
January-7th-2009, 10:36 AM
We had a 27 year old secretary pass last year due to this, died in her sleep.

My Uncle had one and caused him to have a stroke. He survived but did suffer some brain damage.

It's an awful thing.

Thoughts and prayers to your friend and his family.

Clinton "F'n" Portis
January-7th-2009, 10:37 AM
Sorry to hear that Mark. Went through this myself. Really did not understand it as well. Your friend and his family are in my prayers.

My Uncle passed away from that in 2002. He took my Aunt on a trip to New Orleans for a surprise 25th Anniversary. He started getting headaches and ended up passing away on that trip. Feel bad for my cousin cause he had just graduated boot camp (got to see his father then) but was in A School and was not allowed to leave there until he passed. That messed him up and his life has been a downward spiral since then

acuratl1984
January-7th-2009, 10:42 AM
Mark,

Sorry to hear about your friend's lost.
He sounds like a great guy. But unfortunately bad things seems to always happen to good people. Does your friend have any kids? I'm not positive but I think these brain aneurysm maybe hereditary.

DeanCollins
January-7th-2009, 10:43 AM
That's what took my father out. He had had a bad stroke (at age 61) that did a lot of damage. Had a pretty decent life for 12 years afterward. He did not take care of himself prior, had high cholesterol, untreated high blood pressure, drank like fish, smoked like a chimney, and consumed pots of coffee per day, while maintaning a stressful life style. He really couldn't have done anything more to insure a CVA or heart attack.

Toe Jam
January-7th-2009, 10:51 AM
I'm sorry to hear this, Mark.

I'm realizing at a very early age that taking care of myself is vitally important.

Mark The Homer
January-7th-2009, 11:19 AM
Thanks all.

What's also so sad is - his 14 year old daughter will probably never have a happy Christmas again ever. It's so sad. Lots of crying has been done. And will be done.

Mad Mike
January-7th-2009, 11:24 AM
Thanks all.

What's also so sad is - his 14 year old daughter will probably never have a happy Christmas again ever. It's so sad. Lots of crying has been done. And will be done.

Trust me Mark, there may always be a bit of sadness, but in time another happy Christmas will come. It's all part of the circle of life.

Touchdown Redskins
January-7th-2009, 11:25 AM
Sorry to hear about this Mark. It's a very sad story.

And, you know, you're very right. Cardiovascular illness is the #1 killer in America right now, and I see this in the hospital all the time. I know a lot of us love our junk food, especially during the football season, but it's very important to keep a healthy diet and work out a couple of times a week. A little moderation goes a long, long way.

kuraitengai
January-7th-2009, 11:33 AM
now im not sure about the causes, ie disease, as you posted. i did some research into aneurisms and interviewed a rehab specialist and neurosurgeon on the causes and such when i was working on a book where the main character had an aneurism. i havent come across anything about them being disease related, though im sure it could happen. everything i found out and was told by the multiple doctors was it was something from birth that could hit anyone.

although now thinking about it, i have read that a clot or anything else breaking off and making its way into the brain could cause an aneurism, so that could go with the high cholesterol and all. though i think that might be something different. the most common form of aneurism that im aware of is a a bubble off the vein. but any kind of burst would still be an aneurism. so a clogged artery anywhere with a piece breaking off and making its way to the brain. or even an air bubble in the bloodstream that makes its way up there.
it was a lot of interesting research, especially on the rehab methods.

but i feel for the family. my grandmother died a couple days before christmas three years ago. hits my mom every year.

Tut77
January-7th-2009, 10:46 PM
Mark,
How terribly sad. My condolences to you and your friend's family. And your words of warning are absolutely correct--although aneurysms (it's spelled with a "y") are in part related to genetics, there are risk factors that increase someones likelihood of getting them---diabetes, obesity, and smoking increase risk for aneurysms. So like mark said--watch what you eat and drink, don't smoke, get exercise. Aneurysms can also occur in the aorta (major blood vessel in the abdomen/chest and it's the same thing as in the brain---a bulging of a blood vessel in an area where the vessel wall is too thin. If an abdominal aortic aneurysm bursts, you can be dead in minutes.

Kuraitengai,
The blood clot breaking off that you're thinking of is called an embolism.

I know this stuff cuz I'm a lawyer and used to represent medical device companies (including stent manufacturers) and learned all sorts of medical stuff.

DarrellsMyHero28
January-7th-2009, 10:52 PM
Aneurysms are rough. One of my best friend's sister died at 19 after suffering one on the way back from college for Christmas break.

So sorry for your loss Mark.

spjunkies
January-7th-2009, 10:59 PM
It's amazing how fragile the human body is.

I'm so sorry to hear about her passing :(

SpringfieldSkins
January-7th-2009, 11:00 PM
I'm very sad to hear about this Mark.


It goes to show you how fragile life really is. Anybody can be a ticking time bomb from birth and it is very sad. Everybody should make the most out of their lives.

ldysknzfn1
January-7th-2009, 11:02 PM
My understanding is, although the aneurim is considered a birth defect, the blockage or almost-blockage of the blood vessels is due to disease

This is referred to as arteriosclerosis or artherosclerosis. The hardening of the vessels due to plaque build up caused by high cholesterol and fatty deposits.

I'm sorry to hear about your friend's wife and I hope that he will find peace somehow and that you will be there to pick him up when he's down. He'll need a friend from time to time.

BigMike619
January-7th-2009, 11:12 PM
when I was in the 10th grade my friend died in front of me from one. we were sitting at our home ec table and he just looked at me, turned purple and blood came out of his ears. they said he had no chance.

motorhead
January-7th-2009, 11:13 PM
Sorry to hear Mark.Makes you stop and think.
I'll be thinking about ya.

HogNose
January-7th-2009, 11:19 PM
My condolences to you and your friend's family. Sad, sad story.

My brother has a friend that died of a brain aneurysm, had a severe headache and then died the next day, he was only 30. It's frightening how an aneurysm can strike anyone at anytime.

WVUforREDSKINS
January-7th-2009, 11:22 PM
Sorry to hear this Mark.

I have been somewhat fortunate in that I haven't had anyone real close to me die..yet.

My condolences to you and yours.

Special K
January-7th-2009, 11:24 PM
Wow Mark, that's an awful story. I hate hearing stuff like this, there are just too many tragic stories these days. I don't know much about the definitive causes of aneurysms, but you certainly make a good point about how we all need to be thankful for each day we are able to live and spend with our loved ones. :)

spjunkies
January-7th-2009, 11:28 PM
Sorry to hear this Mark.

I have been somewhat fortunate in that I haven't had anyone real close to me die..yet.

My condolences to you and yours.

Neither have I. Both of my grandfathers were deceased by the time I was born. My biggest fear is when I lose someone close to me because I honestly don't know if I can handle it.

Mark The Homer
January-8th-2009, 07:16 AM
Thanks all. And thanks for the spelling correction.


This is referred to as arteriosclerosis or artherosclerosis. The hardening of the vessels due to plaque build up caused by high cholesterol and fatty deposits.

I'm sorry to hear about your friend's wife and I hope that he will find peace somehow and that you will be there to pick him up when he's down. He'll need a friend from time to time.

Yes. I'm equally concerned about his daughter. I was 41 when I lost my Mom at it was no picnic. Losing your Mom at age 14 on Christmas Day has to be rough.

PleaseBlitz
January-8th-2009, 08:50 AM
I have been somewhat fortunate in that I haven't had anyone real close to me die..yet.




It sucks, dont do it.

BigMike619
January-8th-2009, 09:22 AM
It sucks, dont do it.

I would also like to not recommend this...:(

LandoverLex
January-8th-2009, 09:50 AM
News like this make me want to go hang out with pacman

Heisenberg
January-8th-2009, 10:24 AM
when I was in the 10th grade my friend died in front of me from one. we were sitting at our home ec table and he just looked at me, turned purple and blood came out of his ears. they said he had no chance.


That's just horrible.