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bubba9497
January-20th-2009, 10:58 PM
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Aikman's take on the Cowboys

January 20, 2009

Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

Hall of Famer Troy Aikman talked to former teammate Michael Irvin (http://podloc.andohs.net/dloadTrack.mp3?prm=3450xhttp://query-origin.andohs.net/8000A6/content-root3.andomedia.com/origin/mp3/stations/1138/irvin/irvin090120.mp3) about the Cowboys' current situation today on 103.3 FM ESPN. He used the opportunity to suggest that perhaps Tony Romo doesn't grasp what being the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys is all about.

Pretty interesting stuff.




Romo, Romo, wherefore art thou Romo?

January 20, 2009

Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo broke his postseason silence by granting an interview with his hometown newspaper, The Journal Times. Nothing too revealing here, but he continued to drive home the point about how people used to say Peyton Manning couldn't win the big one. And he had an interesting take on Giants coach Tom Coughlin and quarterback Eli Manning.

"You never win the big one until you win the big one," he told the Journal Times. "Eli Manning and Tom Coughlin were fired before they ended up going on their playoff run last year and winning the Super Bowl. Three games before the playoffs, neither one of them was coming back."

I'm sorry, did I miss something? Was there anyone who thought the Giants were about to give up on Manning? I see Romo's point, but I'm afraid Cowboys fans still aren't in the mood for perspective. One of the things that Romo was ripped for after the Philly game was talking about how, in the whole scheme of life, the loss wasn't that big of a deal. He echoed those comments in his conversation with the Journal Times.

"If I'm never going to win the Super Bowl, I'll be content in life. I'll be disappointed because that's what I wanted to do. At that same point, it's not going to be something that makes me a better human being.

"I think I'm going to work very hard to try to obtain those goals. But I'm not going to pretend to say that that's what life's all about either."

Again, that's a healthy perspective to have -- as a human being. But Cowboys fans aren't the least bit interested in Romo's personal growth. Can he change some the bad habits that helped lead to losses against the Steelers, Ravens and Eagles?

If he can, Romo has a chance to be one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. If he can't, he'll be compared to Danny White the rest of his career. And by the way, White had a pretty nice career. But he'll be labeled as a guy who couldn't win the big one. Thanks a lot, Dwight Clark.

skinsfan07
January-20th-2009, 11:05 PM
Silly Romo. But he is kinda right. Football isn't everything in life, but it is his job. So he should be trying his hardest to achieve the best goal in that job which is winning the Superbowl.

SirClintonPortis
January-20th-2009, 11:08 PM
Keep on forcing them throws, Romo my man. Maybe Stonehands will even catch one of them and make you cry. :rolleyes:

DixieFlatline
January-20th-2009, 11:14 PM
Troy Aikman's comments were right on as well. Romo doesn't have any idea about the perception he gives off with comments like this....right or wrong.

TheREALJBird
January-20th-2009, 11:29 PM
That Romo sure is brimming with fire and dedication:rolleyes:

Spaceman Spiff
January-20th-2009, 11:45 PM
Romo is a *****. Further proof.

NoCalMike
January-21st-2009, 12:10 AM
If you are a football player your goal and biggest goal should be to win the superbowl. Now that doesn't mean there won't be goals set outside of football.

DWinzit
January-21st-2009, 06:29 AM
Finally Cowboy fans aren't jumping to Romo's defense. Even they now see these flaws exist and are concerned. Not only has he not improved on the flaws, they have worsened and he's satisfied.

Tr1 has been using the Danny White comparison around here for a couple years.

tr1
January-21st-2009, 07:48 AM
Dear lordie...too funny! :rotflmao:

They keep giving him chances to 'change' for the better. How long has he been in the league now? Answer: Six seasons...six seasons!

He's Romordinary. Flashy at times...guaranteed to choke in big games.

And tied up contractually for a long, long time!

pjfootballer
January-21st-2009, 01:49 PM
Check Cabo. He registered under the name Don Meredith.

Boss_Hogg
January-21st-2009, 04:23 PM
I'm glad Romo plays for the Cowboys...I would worry if they still played Drew Bledsoe or Vinny Testaverde

Peregrine
January-21st-2009, 04:59 PM
When I see Tony Romo take the field in a Cowboy uniform, it makes me happy.

HeHateMe
January-21st-2009, 05:23 PM
When Aikman talks, Romo should listen.

Stophovr6
January-21st-2009, 05:29 PM
Check Cabo. He registered under the name Don Meredith.


If that doesn't work you could always try Mr Simpson.

Fred Jones
January-21st-2009, 05:31 PM
The only solution I see if I was a puke fan is to pray that JJ finally gets it and hires a GM and HC that bring order to chaos.

Romo needs to be handled differently and he needs different players around him. TO is not the kind of player you want.

I would also put him in a different offense. I wonder what Romo would look like in the WCO?

All that said:
1. JJ won't change
2. Unknown if Romo would put forth the effort to improve
3. They need to draft the correct character type talent player

So, I don't see it happening.

bubba9497
January-21st-2009, 06:13 PM
If that doesn't work you could always try Mr Simpson.

that's who he went with

Taylor 36
January-21st-2009, 06:20 PM
Actually, this scares me. It is crap like this that happens, gets Redskins fans all in a roar of laughter, and then bites their asses big time the next season. Romo spoke of Eli, and, sure, I don't think anyone was talking about the Giants firing him, but most of the people on this board laughed and were very happy that Eli was playing for the Giants. Look how that worked out for us.

bubba9497
January-21st-2009, 06:33 PM
Actually, this scares me. It is crap like this that happens, gets Redskins fans all in a roar of laughter, and then bites their asses big time the next season. Romo spoke of Eli, and, sure, I don't think anyone was talking about the Giants firing him, but most of the people on this board laughed and were very happy that Eli was playing for the Giants. Look how that worked out for us.

yeah making fun of him & Dallas has really hurt us the past couple of years.

they won so many playoff games.. oh wait.... no they haven't

well, they have a winning record against us with Romo as QB.... Oh wait, wrong again 2-3

dreamshatterer
January-21st-2009, 10:37 PM
When Aikman talks, Romo should listen.

I think that is not gonna happen. Jerry paid him a sigining bonus of $11.5 million with $30 million guranteed of the $67.5 million deal. With $44.5 million coming to him, do you really think he cares nor is he gonna listen to Aikman? No. BTW, what did he do to deserve that money?

skinsfan07
January-21st-2009, 11:02 PM
Troy Aikman's comments were right on as well. Romo doesn't have any idea about the perception he gives off with comments like this....right or wrong.

Yeah he was. Was a pretty stupid comment by Romo, but what does he care? lol

Warhead36
January-21st-2009, 11:06 PM
I've never seen a team/player who missed the playoffs get this much hype 10 days before the Super Bowl.

Oldskool
January-21st-2009, 11:25 PM
If you had millions and were nailing Jessica Simpson, you'd be blase about football too.

:D

I never pictured this Goober to have any drive or desire to win. His "gooly, schucks" subordinate relationship with Owens is proof of this.

FanboyOf91
January-21st-2009, 11:52 PM
A wise investment by Jerruh. Worth :2cents:.

tr1
January-22nd-2009, 04:27 AM
Many puke fans think Romo can change.

Here's some news for you: He either can't OR won't.

Frankly, I think he's uncoachable. Easily slips into his bad habits. Still has problems with mechanics. And will always take that big risky pass during a game.

But, when he AVERAGES 1.5 turnovers a game, that's too much heartburn for a team to accept...well, except for Jerruh's team.

He's Danny White, without a playoff win.

SWFLSkins
January-25th-2009, 10:44 AM
When Aikman talks, Romo should listen.

Based on previous actions, I don't see that happening. Aikman has been at camp and I would guess based on his comments, that he has offered his advice in the past. You may know more about that than me.

I do think Romo has it right, life is bigger than a football game. However with that being said, you don't tell the world that. Imagine if you failed on a project at work and you just told your boss/customer, oh well, there are bigger things in life. FIRED is what you'd be.

Bang
January-25th-2009, 12:43 PM
[

"Eli Manning and Tom Coughlin were fired before they ended up going on their playoff run last year and winning the Super Bowl. Three games before the playoffs, neither one of them was coming back."


100% true. I even did a cartoon lampooning how the Giants fans were running Coughlin out of town on a rail after the 06 season.
Man, I wish half our fan base would realize this when they're ready to fire every player after every stumble.

~Bang

bubba9497
January-25th-2009, 07:26 PM
Man, I wish half our fan base would realize this when they're ready to fire every player after every stumble.

~Bang


I hear you my brother :applause:

sideshow24
January-26th-2009, 09:36 AM
Isn't this just Romo justifying his suckage? By his logic every coach and quarterback in the league should be given the benefit of the doubt because Coughlin and Manning pulled it off.

Fear Our D!
January-26th-2009, 09:16 PM
If you had millions and were nailing Jessica Simpson, you'd be blase about football too.

You just think he's nailing Jessica. She's just a front. He's really involved with Jeff Garcia. They hold each other and cry and talk about the permanent scars TO has left on them.

sideshow24
January-26th-2009, 09:33 PM
You just think he's nailing Jessica. She's just a front. He's really involved with Jeff Garcia. They hold each other and cry and talk about the permanent scars TO has left on them.

WOW! You'd think the tire changing, homeless guy helping hero would get more respect.

Ken
January-27th-2009, 01:23 AM
Only Skins fans could have a team that finished in the basement of its division and have a qb who has accomplished nothing and still criticize other teams.

Classic!

Not a qb in the Division I would take over Romo....

Still aren't many in the entire league I would take either.

BTW, tied for 2nd all time in Qb rating, even with "all those turnovers".

SkinsGuy
January-27th-2009, 01:30 AM
Only Skins fans could have a team that finished in the basement of its division and have a qb who has accomplished nothing and still criticize other teams.

Classic!

Not a qb in the Division I would take over Romo....

Still aren't many in the entire league I would take either.

BTW, tied for 2nd all time in Qb rating, even with "all those turnovers".


Romo 95 QB Rating :excited:

DWinzit
January-27th-2009, 06:07 AM
Still aren't many in the entire league I would take either.

BTW, tied for 2nd all time in Qb rating, even with "all those turnovers".September through November he has been consistently good. December and January, when it counts the most) he has consistently played poor. If having him as my QB means getting my hopes up for a Super Bowl run only to fall to disappointment year after year then no thanks.

Reminder -The widely proclaimed SB bound Cowboys finished one game out of the basement. The criticism is just. :2cents:

ArmchairRedskin
January-27th-2009, 06:12 AM
Everything around Romo seems to turn bad. TO is declining, the Cowboys can't even make the playoffs, and Jessica Simpson? Well, take a look for yourself

http://thesuperficial.com//bfm_gallery/2009/01/0126%20Jessica%20Simpson%20Cookoff/gallery_main/gallery_main-0126_jessica_simpson_cookoff_15.jpg

bubba9497
January-27th-2009, 06:15 AM
Only Skins fans could have a team that finished in the basement of its division and have a qb who has accomplished nothing and still criticize other teams.

Classic!


nothing classic about this response.... the same old tired Poke Fan Mantra


http://www.stevemiller4lasvegas.com/SeeNoEvilMonkeys.JPG

:snore:

:secret: a skin's fan didn't write the op,

but a poke fan and former poke beat writer did :thumbsup:

not a qb in the Division I would take over Romo....

Still aren't many in the entire league I would take either.

:rotflmao:




BTW, tied for 2nd all time in Qb rating, even with "all those turnovers".

he WAS #1, enjoy it while you can at the rate he's going he'll easily drop out of the top 10 next season, even with all his garbage time stat padding

3 of his last 4 games a QB Rating of all under 66.3, he had a blistering 16.2 in the first half against the ravens, only broke 20 when they went prevent.


needing one win to make the playoffs in his last two games he went 66.2, and 55.8 :excited:.... having 3 Int, 2 fumbles lost (one returned for a td) 5 sacks... with only 2 garbage time TD passes against the ravens when they went prevent.

Against the Steelers (first game in Dec) 3 Int (one returned for a td), 1 fumbles lost 3 sacks... with only 1 TD passes and a 44.9 QB Rate

Ken
January-27th-2009, 09:46 AM
nothing classic about this response.... the same old tired Poke Fan Mantra




Ya, ya, ya....


Again, I'll take Romo any day of the week.

Convieniently, the Cowboys had the hardest December schedule- so it is not surprising that Romo didn't put up his best stats.

What was the Skins excuse?

ntotoro
January-27th-2009, 09:57 AM
Everything around Romo seems to turn bad. TO is declining, the Cowboys can't even make the playoffs, and Jessica Simpson? Well, take a look for yourself

Anna Nicole Simpson... ?

Hooper
January-27th-2009, 10:23 AM
Wow. It appears Jessica ate Romo.

Chief skin
January-27th-2009, 11:05 AM
Does not sound like a QB who is obsessed with winning

DWinzit
January-27th-2009, 04:17 PM
Convieniently, the Cowboys had the hardest December schedule- so it is not surprising that Romo didn't put up his best stats.

What was the Skins excuse?Your comparisons are lame at best but keep trying to spin if you must.

Every preseason projection I saw had the Redskins as low as 6-10 and as high as 11-5. Most had them finishing 3rd or 4th in the East. 8-8 with a new HC, OC and DC was the expectation.

The lowest Cowboys projection I saw had them at 11-5 and 2nd in the East. Most had them at 12-4 or 13-3 and ending in 1st. Continuity was kept on both sides of the ball with both coaching and players including all those Pro Bowlers. And lets not forget all the additions including an excellent draft with three very high picks. Oh, and one hand picked PacMan

And it was more than stats that were down in the final month, Romo didn't play well and the Cowboys one just one game.

bubba9497
January-27th-2009, 05:02 PM
Convieniently, the Cowboys had the hardest December schedule- so it is not surprising that Romo didn't put up his best stats.

What was the Skins excuse?



:rotflmao:


an NFL conspiracy against the poor widdle pokes


wait didn't the Skins, eagles, giants play the same teams?


come on Ken that isn't even close to an excuse....

3 years Romo's record in Dec. and Jan 5-8.... when the seasons on the line Romo has FAILED miserably everytime

and no matter how hard you want to change the topic to the Skins.... I will give you this nugget, .....

in Jason Campbell first complete season as a starter, he has the same playoff results as your hero, Romo

tr1
January-27th-2009, 07:08 PM
Ya, ya, ya....


Again, I'll take Romo any day of the week.

Convieniently, the Cowboys had the hardest December schedule- so it is not surprising that Romo didn't put up his best stats.

What was the Skins excuse?

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Kenny!

Alas, you are but an island in pukeville, for many have lost faith in that choking-dog qb you have...and will continue to have.

I like your excuse, basically, that Romo plays well when it doesn't matter.

Awesome!

I've missed you, Kenny.

Tennessee Ed
January-27th-2009, 07:42 PM
September through November he has been consistently good. December and January, when it counts the most) he has consistently played poor. If having him as my QB means getting my hopes up for a Super Bowl run only to fall to disappointment year after year then no thanks.

Reminder -The widely proclaimed SB bound Cowboys finished one game out of the basement. The criticism is just.
If you had millions and were nailing Jessica Simpson, you'd be blase about football too.

:D

I never pictured this Goober to have any drive or desire to win. His "gooly, schucks" subordinate relationship with Owens is proof of this.


Sorry DWinzit, Oldskool, you Guys are my new sig.:point2sky

DWinzit
January-27th-2009, 10:00 PM
Sorry DWinzit, Oldskool, you Guys are my new sig.:point2skyWhy sorry nothing but the truth. You should however add the rest of the post to strengthen the thought

Tennessee Ed
January-27th-2009, 10:38 PM
Why sorry nothing but the truth. You should however add the rest of the post to strengthen the thought

It's quoted above ^^^, but I thought it might be to long for the sig, and not hooky enough.

Let me know though.:cheers:

Ken
January-28th-2009, 12:52 AM
Your comparisons are lame at best but keep trying to spin if you must.

Every preseason projection I saw had the Redskins as low as 6-10 and as high as 11-5. Most had them finishing 3rd or 4th in the East. 8-8 with a new HC, OC and DC was the expectation.

The lowest Cowboys projection I saw had them at 11-5 and 2nd in the East. Most had them at 12-4 or 13-3 and ending in 1st. Continuity was kept on both sides of the ball with both coaching and players including all those Pro Bowlers. And lets not forget all the additions including an excellent draft with three very high picks. Oh, and one hand picked PacMan

And it was more than stats that were down in the final month, Romo didn't play well and the Cowboys one just one game.

Ya, the media crowned the Cowboys....

Teams are never crowned by the media.

For the record, I predicted that a 10-6 record was very possible.... didn't see 9-7 though.

But injuries played a part in it, we had a beat up Romo and started our 3rd string rookie at RB the final 3 or 4 games.

But it was all romo's fault, obviously. He is the one that didn't block and play defense in key situations.

While he certainly was far from his best, it wasn't all on him. I just wish supposedly intelligent NFL fans would acknowledge that the game of football is a team game. It is annoying to see team losses attributed to one individual, not just for the Cowboys...any team.

tr1
January-28th-2009, 04:37 AM
But it was all romo's fault, obviously. He is the one that didn't block and play defense in key situations.

While he certainly was far from his best, it wasn't all on him. I just wish supposedly intelligent NFL fans would acknowledge that the game of football is a team game. It is annoying to see team losses attributed to one individual, not just for the Cowboys...any team.

Here come the excuses. I guess it was just a matter of time.

As pointed out in bubba's post (that you so conveniently ignored), Romo's numbers in crunch time (December/January) are CONSISTENTLY bad.

It doesn't matter if he plays well for most of a game. When he can be counted on for almost two turnovers a game, he's money in the bank for an opponent...especially an opponent that has made the playoffs.

Keep sipping the Kool-Aid, Kenny.

Many are now coming around to thinking what I was saying two years ago.

SkinsFTW
January-28th-2009, 04:56 AM
If you had millions and were nailing Jessica Simpson, you'd be blase about football too.



They make a great couple. She is ALMOST as overrated as Romo.

SkinsFTW
January-28th-2009, 05:00 AM
But injuries played a part in it, we had a beat up Romo and started our 3rd string rookie at RB the final 3 or 4 games.



Yeah Dallas has had some bad luck with the injuries. In fact, it must be a curse or something for them to happen every year, like clockwork, since the mid 90's, the last time Dallas won more December games than they lost. :2cents:

bubba9497
January-28th-2009, 05:47 AM
Here come the excuses. I guess it was just a matter of time.


after 2 seasons of very few injuries ( and pokes fans constant.."injuries are no excuse" argument)

now they want to explain away their colossal fall from the Super Bowl favorite to sitting out the playoffs, on INJURIES??!! :rolleyes:

sad

Kenny, when our starter went down our backup QB helped win 3 straight and a playoff berth.... so save the tears because Brad Johnson couldn't get "IT" done

DWinzit
January-28th-2009, 06:23 AM
Let me know though.:cheers:It's all good :cheers:

DWinzit
January-28th-2009, 06:39 AM
after 2 seasons of very few injuries ( and pokes fans constant.."injuries are no excuse" argument)You beat me to it bubba. How many freaking times was this argued.
Teams are never crowned by the media.The Cowboys were last years by the media and by your awesome owner.
I just wish supposedly intelligent NFL fans would acknowledge that the game of football is a team game.
Oh course injuries played a part in it. That's part of the game.

Over the prior two seasons the Redskins, Giants and Eagles all experienced an injury riddled season. It was the supposedly intelligent Cowboy fans that would not acknowledge those teams injury problems or the Cowboys fortunes to not be hit by the injury bug.
It is annoying to see team losses attributed to one individual, not just for the Cowboys...any team.Numerous Cowboy fans, I believe you included, have been hammering Campbell in similar fashion.

bubba9497
January-28th-2009, 06:49 AM
The Cowboys were last years by the media and by your awesome owner.


Don't forget their fans

Ken'ster, you were one of the worst :)

DWinzit
January-28th-2009, 12:21 PM
Here come the excuses. I guess it was just a matter of time.:violin::violin::violin:

sideshow24
January-30th-2009, 10:58 AM
Ya, the media crowned the Cowboys....

Teams are never crowned by the media.


But it was all romo's fault, obviously. He is the one that didn't block and play defense in key situations.

While he certainly was far from his best, it wasn't all on him. I just wish supposedly intelligent NFL fans would acknowledge that the game of football is a team game. It is annoying to see team losses attributed to one individual, not just for the Cowboys...any team.

Football is a team game. The Cowboys don't play it as a team though. Bunch of spotlight seeking individuals. Here is what Romo did as an individual to keep them from the playoffs:

21/39 183 yards
1 INT
2 Fumbles (one returned for a score)

If you are gonna bask in his overhyping when they are winning, you gotta be able to take the bashing when he is sucking.

Fear Our D!
January-30th-2009, 02:39 PM
Football is a team game. The Cowboys don't play it as a team though. Bunch of spotlight seeking individuals. Here is what Romo did as an individual to keep them from the playoffs:

21/39 183 yards
1 INT
2 Fumbles (one returned for a score)

If you are gonna bask in his overhyping when they are winning, you gotta be able to take the bashing when he is sucking.

As a team the Cowboys are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked

The Brave Little Toaster Oven
January-30th-2009, 06:58 PM
:ols:

nice job cowboys signing this douchebag to a huge extension :doh: