There is no liberal bias only crappy politicians

[Burgold]

Liberal bias doesn't exist. Not at all. Not a scentilla. There is however a bias against crap which may be unfair in itself since crap helps to nurture crops.


This is really just I'm sitting in the mechanic's waiting room and I'm bored as heck thread. Please have fun with it.

[ljs]

:munchout:

Burgold= pot stirer...


But I'll play....Rachel Maddow looks like Rush Limbaugh next to Bill O'Reilly....

[The Evil Genius]

The majority of the bias in the media, imho, comes from the reader's understanding of what is being said. Anything and everything that is said negative (or positive) about their political leader is seen as bias.

Oh sure there are a few writers/reporters who are biased and claim not to be..but the majority are just writing or reporting on stories that sell. After all, the media is a private business.

[mardi gras skin]

Liberal bias doesn't exist. Not at all. Not a scentilla.

Are you talking about the traditional news media? How could it not be? Look at the red states and the blue states. Now think about where the traditional media originates. In relation to their neighbors, the average reporter is pretty moderate. In relation to the average Texan, most reporters are obviously going to be liberal.

[Burgold]

Are you talking about the traditional news media? How could it not be? Look at the red states and the blue states. Now think about where the traditional media originates. In relation to their neighbors, the average reporter is pretty moderate. In relation to the average Texan, most reporters are obviously going to be liberal.

Spent a friggin' five hours at the mechanics today. Grrr... and I came up with this insight.

Are the traditional news media in Kentucky and Kansas Liberal? Are they Liberal in New York or San Francisco! No! It's about crap politicians and crap policies!

Democrats are full of donkey sized crap and Republicans are full of elephant sized crap!

Name me a non crappy politician who was hounded and villianized mercilessly that has no skeletons in their closet! Heck, name me a completely innocent politician!

Liberal bias is a fiction created by Republicans to try to get away with murder and have a useful scapegoat.

[Califan007]

You'd have to search far and wide to find any news media outlet that is NOT biased in one direction or the other. Most use templates and action lines to dictate what they report, and how they report it. And most of those templates and action lines tend to favor the liberal view of things, even if just slightly.

[Larry]

Name me a non crappy politician who was hounded and villianized mercilessly that has no skeletons in their closet! Heck, name me a completely innocent politician!

Everybody remember the classic definition of an honest politician?

One who stays bought.

[mardi gras skin]

Spent a friggin' five hours at the mechanics today. Grrr... and I came up with this insight.

Are the traditional news media in Kentucky and Kansas Liberal? Are they Liberal in New York or San Francisco! No! It's about crap politicians and crap policies!

Democrats are full of donkey sized crap and Republicans are full of elephant sized crap!

Name me a non crappy politician who was hounded and villianized mercilessly that has no skeletons in their closet! Heck, name me a completely innocent politician!

Liberal bias is a fiction created by Republicans to try to get away with murder and have a useful scapegoat.

Does your mechanic have a cash bar?

[AAARedskin]

I am so proud to have voted for JOHN MCCAIN. President Obama's transition is 1 scandal after another, and it's a DISGRACE! Yeah, let's have some CHANGE! Seems like every person Obama tries to fill cabinet positions with is tainted and CORRUPT. Like I said, Obama's transition is an EMBARRASSMENT and a DISGRACE, and I am sooooo proud not to have voted for him.

[Burgold]

Does your mechanic have a cash bar?

First reasonable response in this thread.

No. Sadly, it was one of those deals where they told me it would be done in an hour and a half, so I stuck around and then it just dragged on and on and on.

Califan,

This is not a reasonable thread. Stop it. If I were to be reasonable I might concur that there is such a thing as bias in the media even though liberal bias in and of itself is as mythical as the three horned orange polka dotted bag piple playing dragon.

[Califan007]

Are the traditional news media in Kentucky and Kansas Liberal? Are they Liberal in New York or San Francisco! No! It's about crap politicians and crap policies!
:rotflmao:

San Francisco not liberal, eh? lol...




Democrats are full of donkey sized crap and Republicans are full of elephant sized crap!

Name me a non crappy politician who was hounded and villianized mercilessly that has no skeletons in their closet! Heck, name me a completely innocent politician!

Liberal bias is a fiction created by Republicans to try to get away with murder and have a useful scapegoat.
You seem to think that "liberal bias" (or "conservative bias", for that matter) only occurs when talking about politicians.

What about when the news media is covering stories about abortion? Illegal immigration? Affirmative Actions? States rights? Gun control? Birth control? Sex educations? Welfare? And a whole ****load of other topics that tend to be divided right down the middle...

[Califan007]

Califan,

This is not a reasonable thread. Stop it. If I were to be reasonable I might concur that there is such a thing as bias in the media even though liberal bias in and of itself is as mythical as the three horned orange polka dotted bag piple playing dragon.
Dammit, now you tell me lol :doh:...

I was sitting here thinking "There's no WAY Burgold thinks San Francisco is not liberal" lol...

[Burgold]

Nah, I felt like being bombastic and needed to vent a little. This felt like a good topic to do it on as most people are absurdly oblivious to their own biases while criticizing the bias of others or other institutions.

[Califan007]

Nah, I felt like being bombastic and needed to vent a little. This felt like a good topic to do it on as most people are absurdly oblivious to their own biases while criticizing the bias of others or other institutions.
I suck at fake bombast lol...unfortunately I'm good at real bombast. :cool:

So, with that...*ahem*

The media is SO DAMN LIBERAL!! Geez, come on people! Rush is right!! Don't get your "news" from the New York Slimes, fer God's sake!! They'd sell government secrets to the Ruskies if they felt it would help bring down a conservative president! Honestly, I have no idea how any of you can argue against this, it's so damn obvious...

[The Evil Genius]

Dammit, now you tell me lol :doh:...

I was sitting here thinking "There's no WAY Burgold thinks San Francisco is not liberal" lol...

He said the media in SF isn't biased. For the most part, that's true. The Chronicle and newstations in the Bay area are mostly comprised of out of town up and comers. However, they do try to sell their product to a large liberal leaning mass. So the slant of the stories are focused on selling their product (which would be liberal) - but I suspect the bias isn't in the people reporting the stories (so much).

However, SF is the extreme (much like say Salt Like City would be the other extreme).

[Califan007]

He said the media in SF isn't biased. For the most part, that's true. The Chronicle and newstations in the Bay area are mostly comprised of out of town up and comers. However, they do try to sell their product to a large liberal leaning mass. So the slant of the stories are focused on selling their product (which would be liberal) - but I suspect the bias isn't in the people reporting the stories (so much).

However, SF is the extreme (much like say Salt Like City would be the other extreme).
You're probably right, there...San Francisco and nearby areas are way too liberal for it not to be reflected in its news coverage at all, but that slant might be more driven by catering to the market than by trying to influence opinion. And the way they cater to the market probably isn't as obvious as, say, Fox news.

[Burgold]

Remember the old truism.

If you agree with me you're not biased. You're just correct.

[Thiebear]

There is no bias now.. all the ducks are in a row.
The fairness doctrine will shut down the radio and all will be well again for 16+ years.

[McD5]

Dan Rather and CBS say hello, and hope that your bill isn't too high.

[maxiumone]

:munchout:

Burgold= pot stirer...


But I'll play....Rachel Maddow looks like Rush Limbaugh next to Bill O'Reilly....

Rachel Maddow looks like Keith Olberman with tits (small ones at that)

[btfoom]

Liberal bias doesn't exist. Not at all. Not a scentilla. There is however a bias against crap which may be unfair in itself since crap helps to nurture crops.


This is really just I'm sitting in the mechanic's waiting room and I'm bored as heck thread. Please have fun with it.

Liberal bias doesn't exist because liberals know everything. They are smarter than the 'regular folks', and the sooner everyone just comes to terms with that, the better off they will be.

Liberals also don't want you to make any choices for yourself (well, except ONE big one, but that doesn't really count).

Also, liberals become much more knowledgeable when they go to HollyWood and make movies. It somehow shows them the WAY to higher enlightenement.

Lastly, liberals want you to pay your taxes, on time, but don't have to do so themselves (well, they do make mistakes, afterall).

[deejaydana]

Name me a non crappy politician who was hounded and villianized mercilessly that has no skeletons in their closet! Heck, name me a completely innocent politician!



Liberal bias is a fiction created by Republicans to try to get away with murder and have a useful scapegoat.

A: Ron Paul. Zero skeletons. He's an exception in that city of vice we call D.C. He's not given equal time on CNN as they paint him as a kook.

On your second "assertion" you've clearly been drinking steadily from the Obama hippie love juiced cooked up by the likes of Olberman and Maddow. There may be hope for you yet if you can be weaned off that noxious & sometimes fatal punch. Smart money says you've already sailed past the 'point of no return' sign.

[Chachie]

Democrats are full of donkey sized crap and Republicans are full of elephant sized crap!






This is common knowledge. We lose track of that idea here where we discuss it in depth because we have taken our sides and drawn our lines so we blindly defend anything our own party does and blindly take the opportunity to pile on anyone from the other party. The real truth though, is very simple. The people running the show are only trying to stay on top. If they don't lie, cheat, and steal they just won't keep their lives of power. It should also be noted that if they come up short in any way, we the people will crucify them. That's motivation to carry the lies.

The one thing I'm enjoying about the early Obama era is that these folks are folding under the scrutiny right away.




And if the old guard still offend
They got nothing left on which you depend
So enlist every ounce
Of your bright blood
And off with their heads

-The Shins


These are crucial days so let's make everyone accountable, not just the "other" guys.

[Burgold]

Liberal bias doesn't exist because liberals know everything. .

I'm glad someone had the courage to admit the unfettered truth.

[Burgold]

A: Ron Paul. Zero skeletons. He's an exception in that city of vice we call D.C. He's not given equal time on CNN as they paint him as a kook.



This is not a thread in which reason or even logic ought to prevail or be present in large measures... and thankfully, it has been absent even amongst those I suspect are serious...

That being said, I think Ron Paul was not undone or oblitereated by liberal bias, but by the traditional conservative forces that rallied against him. I read a lot more vitriol from conservatives than liberals when it came to Ron Paul. Possibly, because liberals didn't really fear Paul escaping the primaries, but still... the abuse Paul took was at the hands of conservatives.

[btfoom]

I'm glad someone had the courage to admit the unfettered truth.

Actually, I was just posting what I saw in the NY Times (and WashPost, and Chicago Sun-Times, and LA Times, and heard on NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, and the Sci-Fi Channel).

[SpringfieldSkins]

I don't get your picture Navy...

[deejaydana]

This is not a thread in which reason or even logic ought to prevail or be present in large measures... and thankfully, it has been absent even amongst those I suspect are serious...

That being said, I think Ron Paul was not undone or oblitereated by liberal bias, but by the traditional conservative forces that rallied against him. I read a lot more vitriol from conservatives than liberals when it came to Ron Paul. Possibly, because liberals didn't really fear Paul escaping the primaries, but still... the abuse Paul took was at the hands of conservatives.

Only liberals man the cameras for CNN, chuckle-head.

[G.A.C.O.L.B.]

Liberal bias is a fiction created by Republicans to try to get away with murder and have a useful scapegoat.

Started with Spiro Agnew.

Look it up.

[jpyaks3]

The far right sees a bias because everything that isn't their viewpoint is a bias. People that are so far to the right reality has a bias against most of their views. If they want to call that liberal bias thats fine but its simply not true.

Realistically the main stream media is driven more by lazy reporting then anything else. This combined with the fact that news networks feel like its job is to simply put two extreme positions against each other and let them yell it out without moderation or calling people out on intellectual dishonesty or lies is the reason the media is in the terrible shape that it is. It's sad when news media like al jazeera have better, more accurate coverage of our Presidential elections than any of the big 3 networks.

[McD5]

The far right sees a bias because everything that isn't their viewpoint is a bias. People that are so far to the right reality has a bias against most of their views. If they want to call that liberal bias thats fine but its simply not true.



Set the kool-aid down for just a minute.


http://www.breitbart.tv/html/214673.html

[Burgold]

There is no liberal Bias

Response, a picture of The Nile which is in Egypt though it must have relocated to Burgold's state of mind.

For what it was worth I got it and thought it was funny. :cheers:

I think the problem with this thread is that it is almost impossible to figure out who's playing along and who's dead serious.

[Smoot Point Really]

Generally speaking, the media isn't biased... I mean, conservatives can always go to ESPN, NASCAR and the Fishing Channel for opposing views...

[Smoot Point Really]

I'll answer this question as I always do:

EVERYONE is biased... People who believe otherwise are more than gullible.

There is nothing wrong with bias as long as it is used to form sound judgments. What is wrong is claiming to have no bias.

[Mad Mike]

My local Paper has such a liberal bias it's not even funny. On the day of the first Iraqi elections, they couldn't bring themselves to say anything positive. The headline was "UNCERTAIN FUTURE" Ooooooo Scary! Their only political opinion writer is is some wingnut who is somewhere to the left of Carl Marx.

Interestingly, during the past two elections before this one, every county surrounding ours voted republican. The area covered by the Daytona Beach News Journal (or Urinal as we call it) voted democrat.

[Mad Mike]

A: Ron Paul. Zero skeletons. He's an exception in that city of vice we call D.C. He's not given equal time on CNN as they paint him as a kook.

On your second "assertion" you've clearly been drinking steadily from the Obama hippie love juiced cooked up by the likes of Olberman and Maddow. There may be hope for you yet if you can be weaned off that noxious & sometimes fatal punch. Smart money says you've already sailed past the 'point of no return' sign.

He *IS* a kook, and *that* is his skeleton in the closet.

[Mad Mike]

Originally Posted by jpyaks3
The far right sees a bias because everything that isn't their viewpoint is a bias. People that are so far to the right reality has a bias against most of their views. If they want to call that liberal bias thats fine but its simply not true.

This has to be a joke. :D

[Dan T.]

Headline is half true. There are crappy politicians. But there is liberal bias too.



I suck at fake bombast lol...unfortunately I'm good at real bombast. :cool:

So, with that...*ahem*

The media is SO DAMN LIBERAL!! Geez, come on people! Rush is right!! Don't get your "news" from the New York Slimes, fer God's sake!! They'd sell government secrets to the Ruskies if they felt it would help bring down a conservative president! Honestly, I have no idea how any of you can argue against this, it's so damn obvious...

Not a bad stab at fake bombast. But it doesn't come CLOSE to this:



I am so proud to have voted for JOHN MCCAIN. President Obama's transition is 1 scandal after another, and it's a DISGRACE! Yeah, let's have some CHANGE! Seems like every person Obama tries to fill cabinet positions with is tainted and CORRUPT. Like I said, Obama's transition is an EMBARRASSMENT and a DISGRACE, and I am sooooo proud not to have voted for him.

[Thiebear]

Ron Paul is like Larouche(sp)
they have some great ideas, but they should channel them through someone else...

[SnyderShrugged]

I would agree in part. Though, there is certainly evidence of media bias from what most would consider "old" media. The large networks who held media supremacy for most of our lives are definitley in the establishment pockets and will often do whatever the DNC (and for Fox, the RNC) tells them.

Now, "new: media is an awesome mixed bag of ideology and political bent. To me, both of the big parties failed to grasp this. Obama's young supporters did an incredible job of capitolizing on new media to get him elected, but the average old guard pol is still severly lacking in understanding the raw power of new media.

[SnyderShrugged]

Ron Paul is like Larouche(sp)
they have some great ideas, but they should channel them through someone else...

I think that most Ron Paul supporters would have a tough time disagreeing with that. His charisma in the media was very poor and he got killed with 30 second sound bites that obfuscated the awesome message that he delivers.

I think many folks may be somewhat surprised at the growth of the modern liberty movement (Ron Paul's ideals along with many, many, others) in the coming decade. The seed has germinated and who knows what growth may develop?

[SnyderShrugged]

He *IS* a kook, and *that* is his skeleton in the closet.


How very intelligent:doh:

[GibbsFactor]

I don't get your picture Navy...

De Nile, it's not just a river, it's Burgold's train of thought.

[Burgold]

De Nile, it's not just a river, it's Burgold's train of thought.



Wide, powerful and life sustaining, providing nutrients to all who live near it or are impacted by its presence.

Wow! Thanks. That's a pretty big compliment comparing my contributions to the board to the Nile's effect on the people of Egypt.

[Smoot Point Really]

BIAS - The second worst four letter word... after Bush.

NOTE: There is my attempt at Bombast... and/or irony.

[Larry]

This has to be a joke. :D

Actually, it is. But the people who the joke's on, don't think it's funny. :)

[btfoom]

For what it was worth I got it and thought it was funny. :cheers:

I think the problem with this thread is that it is almost impossible to figure out who's playing along and who's dead serious.

I for one am not playing along and am dead serious. I love Denny's Grand Slam and ate 4 yesterday (3 for free)!!!!!!!




<edit>: What??? Wrong Thread??? Well then, nevermind!!!

[Smoot Point Really]

Actually, it is. But the people who the joke's on, don't think it's funny. :)

I'm laughing mostly WITH Burgold for making such a joke of a topic he usually cares deeply about.

Link (http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=263788)

[Burgold]

Oh, I agree with me there too.
That was a good thread (at least the first and last pages which I just re-read)